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Ceasarceasar:
You r not a Christian...

You r a head slammer

Lol you for allow the guy make him dey lie to himself now😅😅

But he got baptized and married her in a church. Political muslims used by northern elites to suppress their own faith in Nigeria.

sreamsense:
You are looking for soft-landing to cover worsen bad image of Islam in Islamic terrorism. You are looking for cut and join irrelevant jargons to make you feel happy in self deceit. Were the coup plotters shooting the name of Jesus as they kill or were they underage that they couldn't tell you if they were for Christianity? Islam is not up to Christian population worldwide, yet Islam harbours more criminals, bandits, terrorists and even ritualist Alfas that Christianity that has highest world population. It is hard to see a country in this world where there is no presence of terrorists referring to themselves as soldiers of Allah.

Most country that don't have presence of Islamic terrorists are either they don't allow Muslims at all in that country or their presence is very small. Mohammad is your leaders who killed lots of people through war directly or indirectly. Mohammad apostles also killed and hatred and killings of Jews, Christians and pagans are all over pages of Quran. So, it is not surprising to see Islamic terrorists carrying out tasks Mohammad gave to them. However,Can you mention (give names) of just two people that Jesus killed that christians can emulate from the bible?

To make it easier for you, just mention two people that Jesus and his 12 disciples killed? Can you mention where christians are commanded by Jesus to hate, kill in the Bible? CRUSADER was caused by Muslims who raised war to dispossess christians of their Holy lands just like they hijacked some christians cities through war of spreading Islam. Western christians only stood their ground to defend holy land from being hijacked by warring Muslims. That was the causes of CRUSADER if you don't know Islam started it.

If Christians were to be commanded by Jesus to kill, then; their won't be Islam by now because Christians remain most populous, richest, most educated and in control of world power (USA); Christians would have used their influence as senior to Islam even in age of existence to eradicate any trace of Islam. For the fact that Islam exists tells you that christians are people of peace and love emulating Jesus. So, if muslims did not start war to hijack holy places of Christians then, there wouldn't be CRUSADER, because there wouldn't be need to defend against Islamic invasion

Lol

Jesus and his Disciples couldn't have killed anyone during his Ministry for so many reasons. I will tell you about 2-3 of them.

1. Him and his Disciples were SUBJECTS and NOT RULERS. Compare Muhammad and his Companions. Did you read where John the Baptist or his followers killed anyone or Zacharias or Isaiah? Moses killed because he was a Ruler. When you are entrusted to uphold The Laws and defend a State you will understand.

2. Jesus and his Disciples mission is to proclaim the coming Kingdom of God and not the lies Paul foisted on you lots. He was just a Preacher with a mandate not to PUNISH but WARN. Muhammad, Moses, David, Solomon have both mandate which is: WARN AND PUNISH.


On the Crusades, if any One have to fight for the Holy Land, definitely it can't be Europeans! Rome created another in Rome, so why the fight?

If you believe that Jesus and Mohammed are serving the same God, why change of religion.

Love can make human take crazy decision in life and for her seek, I hope she made heaven, cos that should be the ultimate

May her soul rest in peace

Thunder Go fire the next person way post rubbish.


Who gives a shit about IBB?

Agbaka1997:
I'm a Christian clearly from my background, however I grew up in Lagos amongst Muslims who were devout to the core. Their lifestyle has left an indelible mark. Even their holy quran itself, addresses peace in so many dimensions.
I know of a particular Quranic verse that states the importance of repentance, daily prayers and charity or alms giving and how Allah their ultimate God is a forgiving father. Even when our enemies are inclined towards peace, we are directed to make peace with them.

You are either lying or you didn't read Quran or understand Quran.

Read the below and show us where it is religion of peace. And I am sure IBB forced her to convert. Meanwhile read these Quran verses;

These are some evidence that made me have doubts. As there are far too many surahs and ahadith instructing Muslims to kill unbelievers, here is a taste.

The penultimate surah chronologically is number 9, the most violent of the surahs.

9:5

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them."

Note that it says when the sacred months have passed. This means they were not under attack. If they were, the Quran commanded them to defend themselves so there would have been no waiting.

9:29

“Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.”

Note that this abrogates any remaining verse saying Christians and Jews are safe. Just to make sure that Jews and Christians are to be included in conquest, four verses later is:

9:33

“It is He who has sent His Messenger with guidance and the religion of truth to manifest it over all religion, although they who associate others with Allah dislike it.”

A couple more samples from the second to last surah:

9:73

O Prophet, fight against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

9:123

"O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Many, MANY more surah verses commanding violence, especially Medinan verses. Just one more Medinan verse for you, 66:9

O Prophet, strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites and be harsh upon them. And their refuge is Hell, and wretched is the destination.

Let’s not forget ahadith.

Sahih Muslim 1:30

"The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

Sahih Muslim 31:5917 describes Muhammad’s general, Ali, going off to fight but pausing and asking why these people are to be attacked. Muhammad’s response was because they are not Muslim.

“Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: Allah’s Messenger, on what issue should I fight the people? Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger”

Plenty more in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, but I leave you with this few.

sreamsense:
You are looking for soft-landing to cover worsen bad image of Islam in Islamic terrorism. You are looking for cut and join irrelevant jargons to make you feel happy in self deceit. Were the coup plotters shooting the name of Jesus as they kill or were they underage that they couldn't tell you if they were for Christianity? Islam is not up to Christian population worldwide, yet Islam harbours more criminals, bandits, terrorists and even ritualist Alfas that Christianity that has highest world population. It is hard to see a country in this world where there is no presence of terrorists referring to themselves as soldiers of Allah.

Most country that don't have presence of Islamic terrorists are either they don't allow Muslims at all in that country or their presence is very small. Mohammad is your leaders who killed lots of people through war directly or indirectly. Mohammad apostles also killed and hatred and killings of Jews, Christians and pagans are all over pages of Quran. So, it is not surprising to see Islamic terrorists carrying out tasks Mohammad gave to them. However,Can you mention (give names) of just two people that Jesus killed that christians can emulate from the bible?

To make it easier for you, just mention two people that Jesus and his 12 disciples killed? Can you mention where christians are commanded by Jesus to hate, kill in the Bible? CRUSADER was caused by Muslims who raised war to dispossess christians of their Holy lands just like they hijacked some christians cities through war of spreading Islam. Western christians only stood their ground to defend holy land from being hijacked by warring Muslims. That was the causes of CRUSADER if you don't know Islam started it.

If Christians were to be commanded by Jesus to kill, then; their won't be Islam by now because Christians remain most populous, richest, most educated and in control of world power (USA); Christians would have used their influence as senior to Islam even in age of existence to eradicate any trace of Islam. For the fact that Islam exists tells you that christians are people of peace and love emulating Jesus. So, if muslims did not start war to hijack holy places of Christians then, there wouldn't be CRUSADER, because there wouldn't be need to defend against Islamic invasion

I don't know why you guys still peddle such hate online despite the recent exposition coming from the USA. Boko Haram and almost all other international terrorists have thier supports from US.

So if that can be proven then we should say Christians are behind the sponsorship of all these terrorism.

The US attacked Iraq looking for weapon of mass destruction and killing many. Who ever calls that terrorism?

Terrorism is only terrorism when Muslims are involved!

Hypocrites!

Jesus wasn't militarised by his God like Moses, Samson, Joshua, Saul and others! That Jesus didn't kill is not an excuse! You follow the same God Moses, Joshua and others followed!

We have records from the Bible where the spirit empowered Samson and he slaughtered a thousand of his enemies (God's enemies)!

Look how someone's true life story wan turn Nairaland Forum into battle field.
Mind your language, Mind your business, please.

I shared with her the fact that my faith was an integral and essential part of my life and that I would require her to convert to Islam.

Praise be to Allah; this was not a difficult decision for Maria. Being part-Christian and part-Muslim at birth and already living in a Muslim household, it was never going to be wholly uncharted territory for her.

Who swore for this old man never to say the whole truth? Why always half truths?

IBB admitted in his first statement that the whole convert thing was his idea but look at his second statement. According to him, although from a mixed background, Maria was still a Christian and an adult as at the time they met. If she wanted to switch sides so bad, wouldn't she have done it prior to meeting Babangida?

That was how he said in his own words that he took responsibility for the June 12 ish and even affirmed that Abiola won the election, only to turnaround and try to rope Abacha in, when he was in fact the one who announced the annulment, plus Abiola was still alive when Abacha died.

Seriously, the media should give us a break from this man.

Blackman101:
If you believe that Jesus and Mohammed are serving the same God, why change of religion.

Love can make human take crazy decision in life and for her seek, I hope she made heaven, cos that should be the ultimate

May her soul rest in peace

The issue is that the Christian Faith add Jesus and a Spooky Ghost to the Worship of God.

In Islam if you add another in the worship of Allah, you are a BLASPHEMER.

A Cardinal SIN.

Softmirror:
There are many who said IBB is bisexual. Even in Gideon Orkar's Coup speech he said so publicly that IBB is into having sex with men.

Rumors have it that Adenuga and IBB were partners

Ceasarceasar:
You r not a Christian...

You r a head slammer

Hahaha 🤣, busted

Lukuluku69:
The issue is that the Christian Faith add Jesus and a Spooky Ghost to the Worship of God.

In Islam if you add another in the worship of Allah, you are a BLASPHEMER.

A Cardinal SIN.

If you don't have the understanding of Christianity, you will have any view you like.

Agbaka1997:
I'm a Christian clearly from my background, however I grew up in Lagos amongst Muslims who were devout to the core. Their lifestyle has left an indelible mark. Even their holy quran itself, addresses peace in so many dimensions.
I know of a particular Quranic verse that states the importance of repentance, daily prayers and charity or alms giving and how Allah their ultimate God is a forgiving father. Even when our enemies are inclined towards peace, we are directed to make peace with them.

Story for the Nolywood.

Peace and they are beheading, carrying bombs, doing suicide bombing, treat women like gutter, doing bandit and still shout Allah akbar, Fulani herds in Benue and other part of the country, the Hamas who killed 9 months old baby, ISIS, Al Shabab, boko haram, Houthi, Afghanistan, boko haram etc. Pls don't let us start another issue just stop it here.

Pls don't talk about Islam pls don it's better to be idol worshiper than being Muslim.

Peace my a s s .

So e don tey wey dis man don be Maradona🤣

Agbaka1997:
I'm a Christian clearly from my background, however I grew up in Lagos amongst Muslims who were devout to the core. Their lifestyle has left an indelible mark. Even their holy quran itself, addresses peace in so many dimensions.
I know of a particular Quranic verse that states the importance of repentance, daily prayers and charity or alms giving and how Allah their ultimate God is a forgiving father. Even when our enemies are inclined towards peace, we are directed to make peace with them.

Unfortunately, we don't practice Islam in Nigeria. The so called Islam is the major undoing of the country called nigeria

Interesting narrative. You forgot the part of Bongos Ikwue in this whole story and how Asaba came to be Delta State's capital instead of Warri.

🤔🤔

Agbaka1997:
Really? That's absolutely new to me. IBB doesn't strike me as someone, who is bisexual though. But how true or factual is that assertion though?

Are Gen Z?

Agbaka1997:
Really? That's absolutely new to me. IBB doesn't strike me as someone, who is bisexual though. But how true or factual is that assertion though?

Are you Gen Z?

Blackman101:
If you don't have the understanding of Christianity, you will have any view you like.

If l lack the understanding, help me out.

DeepSightZ:
That woman was sooooo elegant - and I dare say sexy.

Guy stop objectifying a dead woman

Softmirror:
I am glad you called it contemporary. Which means they are recent projections. Now let me educate you, this contemporary global conflict became accelerated when Bush the Father, the President of America declared war on Iraq and then Bush the son declared "CRUSADE" openly as the essence of the war on Iraq and ever since there has been an escalation of what you yourself have referred to as 'CONTEMPORARY GLOBAL CONFLICTS' which was very much expected as a result of that crusade by Bush the father and the son.

You called those wars by America against Iraq a crusade, really? How was that to spread Christianity? Christianity unlike some others is not spread by brute force but by preaching sometimes with power to experience miracles or just plain revelation of Jesus Christ.
Do check it out, the original crusades were wars of defense or wars to recover lost Christian lands.
So no modern wars are ever fought to advance Christianity.

Teymanhenry:
Unfortunately, we don't practice Islam in Nigeria. The so called Islam is the major undoing of the country called nigeria

But we practice Christianity?

Agbaka1997:
Certainly he didn't cheat on Maryam, wasn't a philanderer and stayed faithful to her.

Read the thread again.

immaculatesense:
I am a Christian, but do I believe my religion is superior? No, I don't.
I always tell people, it doesn't matter where you belong, it only matter what you do where you find yourself. Across all religions, I say
Do to others what you want done to you.
Would you want anyone to kill you? Don't kill anyone.
Would you want people you do business with to cheat you? Don't cheat anyone.
Would you want your master or employer to delay your salary or wages? Don't do that to your employees.
Would you like anyone to judge you without giving you fair airing? Don't judge anyone without hearing their own side of the story.

DO TO OTHERS WHAT YOU WANT DONE TO YOU.
All men shall be Judged by their WORKS.
THANKS.

If this is your view, may I say you sir are not a Christian, but simply a humanist.
The Christians who spent their entire lives spreading the gospel far and wide, some even martyred for the faith tell you they didn't have this in mind but still went forth to spread the gospel of Christ, because they knew it is the only way be which one can be saved.

Agbaka1997:
I'm a Christian clearly from my background, however I grew up in Lagos amongst Muslims who were devout to the core. Their lifestyle has left an indelible mark. Even their holy quran itself, addresses peace in so many dimensions.
I know of a particular Quranic verse that states the importance of repentance, daily prayers and charity or alms giving and how Allah their ultimate God is a forgiving father. Even when our enemies are inclined towards peace, we are directed to make peace with them.

Lol. You don't know what's on ground

Lifestone:
Are Gen Z?

Yes I'm and a proud one at that.

Softmirror:
There are many who said IBB is bisexual. Even in Gideon Orkar's Coup speech he said so publicly that IBB is into having sex with men.

Why are many northern Muslims gay yet their koran abhors it

kettykings:
I
The real issue with the 1966 coup is the relentless Yoruba attempt to rewrite history, branding it an "Igbo coup" despite clear records showing that 50% of the participants were Yoruba. Had the coup succeeded, we’d never hear the end of how the Yoruba played a crucial role in toppling the First Republic’s government.

In all of these your Igbo/Yoruba arguments, the one that hurts me most is this sudden change of clear history. 50% what? Why did Jonathan cancel history from secondary school curriculum sef? This was clear to everybody until Jonathan's removal of history, GenZs and recently IBB, the maradona's book emerged. Why did the quiet but super active north deal with Igbos during the Civil war? Abeg, don't make me start appearing tribalistic like you children here on Nairaland. Stop telling and following Maradona's lies biko.

AbuTwins:
I don't know why you guys still peddle such hate online despite the recent exposition coming from the USA. Boko Haram and almost all other international terrorists have thier supports from US.

So if that can be proven then we should say Christians are behind the sponsorship of all these terrorism.

The US attacked Iraq looking for weapon of mass destruction and killing many. Who ever calls that terrorism?

Terrorism is only terrorism when Muslims are involved!

Hypocrites!

Jesus wasn't militarised by his God like Moses, Samson, Joshua, Saul and others! That Jesus didn't kill is not an excuse! You follow the same God Moses, Joshua and others followed!

We have records from the Bible where the spirit empowered Samson and he slaughtered a thousand of his enemies (God's enemies)!

Maybe you don't know but Moses and Samson et al were not christians.

About Iraq invasion, do you really believe that because they couldn't find WMA,it means there were no WMA?
You guys are a joke