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TenQ:
How?
Because he sought EU's help?
Or because he refused to bow to Putin?
It seems you dont know that the EU is not a military alliance my friend: it is an economic union.

That's the one that is causing you pain!


Can you notice how just suddenly, the word "NATO is the enemy" is far from your mouth (because Trump, the supposed leader of NATO is become Putin's saviour)
LOL!

Zelensky is the Man of the Decade!

why e go cause me pain when na Ukrainians head bomb 💣 dey drop put, their land na im landmines full or na their rare earth metals and resources that are being plundered 😂

TenQ:
It's a free world my dear where even members of EU can say "I want to exit" and it wouldn't be a cause of war.

Unlike the brute Russia that wants to keep Ukraine as a permanent Houseboy and is willing to steal, kill and destroy to achieve their aim.


You too, compare now!?

Keep lying against Russia.
If wot u say about free world, make any meaning to u,
why den did Zelensky wage a brutal 10yrs war against Donbas, cos they rejected EU membership
for Ukraine?

Guestmale:
Which deal did they sign?

Minsk agreements.

Chicagograduate:
Ukraine is now relying on locally produced drones to fight Putin forces.Putin troops cannot invade Ukraine because they are use as sacrifices by drones.putin now rely on drones from Iran and ballistic missiles from NK to fire inside russia.

Latest News is the Russians are getting close to the denipro River that separates the donbass from the rest of Ukraine, once they get there, it is checkmate. I know you have no idea what am saying 😂😁😁😁😂

We don dey follow this war since 2014, na you wey just know about the war 3 years ago wan lecture me😂😂

Krismas:
If the deal was bad, then why did they sign it?
How do you sign a deal and then renege from fulfilling your obligations?
The west destroys every single framework nations look up to for conflict resolution.

There was only ONE peace deal signed between Ukraine and Russia and it is the
Minsk Agreements (2014-2015) after Russia annexed Cremia and started their problem in the Donbas region. Russia was supposed to withdraw their soldiers and heavy weapons from Donbass area and they did not. This was what broke the agreement.


The second agreement was not even signed at all in 2022 due to issues like the Bucha massacre and Russia's annexation of more Ukrainian territories. This was the Istanbul Communiqué, which proposed Ukraine's neutrality and limits on its military in exchange for security guarantees. The problem here was Russia again.


So where did you learn your own history?

Krismas:
Keep lying against Russia.
If wot u say about free world, make any meaning to u,
why den did Zelensky wage a brutal 10yrs war against Donbas, cos they rejected EU membership
for Ukraine?

You can lie for Africa!
Was Donbas was part of Ukraine or Russia?
Were they not sponsored by Russia to declare an armed revolt for independence from Ukraine?

JORDAN202:
EVEN THOUGH TRUMP IS AN ASSHOLE, HE WAS RIGHT TO SAY UKRAINE CAUSED THE WAR .....

UKRAINE WAS VERY VERY STUPID TO WANT TO JOIN NATO SO THAT NATO CAN SURROUND RUSSIA AND POSSIBLY ATTACK RUSSIA..

ZELENSKI ALLOWED CUNNING BRITAIN TO 419 THEM INTO TRYING RUSSIA

DID UKRAINE NOT SEE THE AMERICAN RESPONSE OF THREATENING TO ATTACK CUBA UNDER FIDEL CASTRO WHEN CUBA ALLOW THE SOVIET UNION TO INSTALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN CUBA ?

RUSSIA HAS EVERY RIGHT TO ATTACK UKRAINE BEFORE THEY JOIN AND ATTACK RUSSIA.

IT WAS THE USELESS JOE BIDEN & KAMALA HARRIS THAT ALL ENCOURAGED UKRAINE TO TRY THEIR LUCK WITH RUSSIA.

WITH VERY FOOLISH LEADERSHIP EVERYWHERE THESE DAYS, WE SHOULD NOT ALL BE SURPRISED THE WAY TINUBU TRIED TO ATTACK NIGER REPUBLIC.

IF TINUBU, JUST LIKE ZELENSKI DID, MAKES THE MISTAKE OF ATTACKING CAMEROUN, TOGO, CHAD, NIGER, MALI, VERY SOON NIGERIANS WILL BE SPEAKING FRENCH .........


NB

PLS KINDLY IGNORE THE PURPORTED IBB STATEMENT TO THE YORUBA.

I ONLY POSTED HIS PICTURE HERE AND DO NOT ALIGN TO HIS COMMENT ............

Mr analogy,

So, has USA/NATO install nuclear weapon in Ukraine that made russia to attack Ukraine

Quelme:
why e go cause me pain when na Ukrainians head bomb 💣 dey drop put, their land na im landmines full or na their rare earth metals and resources that are being plundered 😂

The friend of a thief must be a thief isn't it?

Quelme:
The clown is on his own....

Lets see how you will continue the war without the US support.... To the last Ukronazi...

Some of you can't use your senses because it has been blurred by bias emotion. Zelensky himself said he can step aside if it'll bring peace but Ukrainian Parliament passed a resolution that affirms his legitimacy as President untill war is over but here is a Putin akpu munching idiot still blaming this brave man. Blame the whole Parliament who passed the law. But you should not cry more than the bereaved.

The Bully usually just open his mouth and says whatever his brain thinks. Always just thinking as a bully he is.

God1000:
ABC News

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/ukraine-parliament-affirms-elections-wartime-rebuff-trump/story%3fid=116193627

jaxxy:
Zelensky has techincally become a dictator. Well the war is definitely over now cos no more funds. Trump will end the charade and expose the war fund looters.

Be playing...though I understand it's your wishful thinking. EU will be sending 3.5 billion dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine soon. This war will continue even if Trump (not USA) withdraw the funding untill a Democrat takes office.

TenQ:
There was only ONE peace deal signed between Ukraine and Russia and it is the
Minsk Agreements (2014-2015) after Russia annexed Cremia and started their problem in the Donbas region. Russia was supposed to withdraw their soldiers and heavy weapons from Donbass area and they did not. This was what broke the agreement.


The second agreement was not even signed at all in 2022 due to issues like the Bucha massacre and Russia's annexation of more Ukrainian territories. This was the Istanbul Communiqué, which proposed Ukraine's neutrality and limits on its military in exchange for security guarantees. The problem here was Russia again.


So where did you learn your own history?

Lies
Minsk 1 was 2014
Minsk 2 was 2015
Ukraine agreed in both agreements for an autonomous Donbas
Inwhich case, u can't say Russia not withdrawing is reason the deal collapsed.
Except you don't know the meaning of autonomous
From day one, EU has stated dat Russia must be defeated on the battlefield
So, 4get your fake excuses.

Poormanpikin:
Be playing...though I understand it's your wishful thinking. EU will be sending 3.5 billion dollars worth of weapons to Ukraine soon. This war will continue even if Trump (not USA) withdraw the funding untill a Democrat takes office.

It's a shame u support an unending war which it's only achievement in 3 years has been destruction and millions of lives lost and offcourse 3 provinces lost to Russia all thanks to Biden and EU.

Soon Ukraine will be totally decimated with hypersonic missiles and there will be no US to defend them.

Neither Biden nor Europe has fulfilled their promises toske Ukraine a NATO member till he left office only bloodshed and destruction.

And mind u Trump represents millions of Americans who are against the war in Ukraine and he was voted by them to end the senseless war.

Krismas:
Clown
Didn't you hear Macron saying Europe will send 30k troops to Ukraine?
When Zelensky is asking for 800k troops?
America does not need Europe to fight China

Now you're indirectly accepting that China cannot stand US

TenQ:
You can lie for Africa!
Was Donbas was part of Ukraine or Russia?
Were they not sponsored by Russia to declare an armed revolt for independence from Ukraine?

Why do u believe Donbas was sponsored by Russia to revolt?
Your insincerity is why u can never understand the Ukraine conflict.
Zelensky the fool, knows he is not wanted in Donbas and dat has nothing to do with Russia

Krismas:
Lies
Minsk 1 was 2014
Minsk 2 was 2015
Ukraine agreed in both agreements for an autonomous Donbas
Inwhich case, u can't say Russia not withdrawing is reason the deal collapsed.
Except you don't know the meaning of autonomous
From day one, EU has stated dat Russia must be defeated on the battlefield
So, 4get your fake excuses.

No sir. There was nothing autonomous in the details of the agreement.

Part of the minsk agreement was for Russia to withdraw from Donbas

Here is the details of both agreements
Here are the major conditions of the Minsk Agreements:
Minsk I (2014)
1. **Immediate Bilateral Ceasefire**: To ensure an immediate halt to hostilities.
2. **Monitoring and Verification**: OSCE to monitor and verify the ceasefire.
3. **Decentralization**: Adoption of a Ukrainian law granting self-governance to certain areas of Donbas.
4. **Border Control**: Permanent monitoring of the Ukrainian-Russian border by the OSCE.
5. **Release of Hostages**: Immediate release of all hostages and illegally detained persons.
6. **Amnesty**: Law preventing prosecution for events in Donbas.
7. **National Dialogue**: Continue inclusive national dialogue.
8. **Humanitarian Situation**: Measures to improve the humanitarian situation in Donbas.
9. **Local Elections**: Early local elections in accordance with Ukrainian law.
10. **Withdrawal of Forces**: Withdrawal of illegal armed groups and military equipment.
11. **Economic Recovery**: Programme for economic recovery and reconstruction of Donbas.
12. **Security for Participants**: Personal security for consultation participants

### Minsk II (2015)
1. **Immediate and Comprehensive Ceasefire**: Similar to Minsk I.
2. **Withdrawal of Heavy Weapons**: Withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line.
3. **OSCE Monitoring**: Enhanced OSCE monitoring.
4. **Border Control**: Return of control over the Ukrainian-Russian border after local elections.
5. **Local Elections**: Elections in Donbas under OSCE standards and Ukrainian law.
6. **Special Status**: Permanent special status for Donbas regions through constitutional reform.
7. **Amnesty**: Amnesty for those involved in the conflict.
8. **Humanitarian Aid**: Humanitarian aid access to affected areas.
9. **Economic Support**: Economic support and recovery for Donbas.
10. **Withdrawal of Foreign Troops**: Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment, and mercenaries from Ukrainian territory

Krismas:
Why do u believe Donbas was sponsored by Russia to revolt?
Your insincerity is why u can never understand the Ukraine conflict.
Zelensky the fool, knows he is not wanted in Donbas and dat has nothing to do with Russia

They had hundreds of brand new Armoured Tanks and Artillery to fight Ukraine. The Russian soldier joined to fight without putting on Russian logo

Where did they get the Money?

richeeyo:
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
Mumuni

🤧🤧🤧

Poormanpikin:
Now you're indirectly accepting that China cannot stand US

U wrong.
Wen EU stood with America in the Red Sea against Houthi, everyone saw how useless EU was
Wen EU stood with America to intercept Iranian missiles to Israel, everyone saw how useless EU was.
Against China, EU will be useless

Krismas:
Why do u believe Donbas was sponsored by Russia to revolt?
Your insincerity is why u can never understand the Ukraine conflict.
Zelensky the fool, knows he is not wanted in Donbas and dat has nothing to do with Russia

Was Donbas was part of Ukraine or Russia?

jaxxy:
It's a shame u support an unending war which it's only achievement in 3 years has been destruction and millions of lives lost and offcourse 3 provinces lost to Russia all thanks to Biden and EU.

Soon Ukraine will be totally decimated with hypersonic missiles and there will be no US to defend them.

Neither Biden nor Europe has fulfilled their promises toske Ukraine a NATO member till he left office only bloodshed and destruction.

And mind u Trump represents millions of Americans who are against the war in Ukraine and he was voted by them to end the senseless war.

The fact that Ukrainians support the war and want to join NATO makes my support valid. Besides, I can't side with a dictator who wants to take what belongs to his neighbor. You can't cry more than the bereaved. If Ukrainians said they'll not now to Putin and will rather fight to the last person, so be it.


Biden and EU didn't promise Ukraine that they will join NATO soon, they were only focused on sending military aids to them. At times, his administration did rule out Ukraine joining NATO just that I can't remember the exact scenario. Ukraine will defeat Russia.

Krismas:
U wrong.
Wen EU stood with America in the Red Sea against Houthi, everyone saw how useless EU was
Wen EU stood with America to intercept Iranian missiles to Israel, everyone saw how useless EU was.
Against China, EU will be useless

How were they useless in all the scenarios you referenced?

TenQ:
They had hundreds of brand new Armoured Tanks and Artillery to fight Ukraine. The Russian soldier joined to fight without putting on Russian logo

Where did they get the Money?

If Donbas had Armored tanks and artillery, then how did Ukraine overrun Donbas?
If Russian soldiers were battling in Ukraine without uniforms, then why did Russia military roll tanks into Ukraine to force Ukraine into ceasefire?

Poormanpikin:
How were they useless in all the scenarios you referenced?

On the red sea, Britain and Germany almost sank their own ships with the missiles from their own cannons
Over Israel, they couldn't shoot down d least Iranian missile

TenQ:
Was Donbas was part of Ukraine or Russia?

Donbas never wanted EU.
So, Donbas elected to join Russia

Krismas:
On the red sea, Britain and Germany almost sank their own ships with the missiles from their own cannons
Over Israel, they couldn't shoot down d least Iranian missile

Can you provide evidence for this assertion? You may screenshot an article that back this assertion please.

TenQ:
No sir. There was nothing autonomous in the details of the agreement.

Part of the minsk agreement was for Russia to withdraw from Donbas

Here is the details of both agreements
Here are the major conditions of the Minsk Agreements:
Minsk I (2014)
1. **Immediate Bilateral Ceasefire**: To ensure an immediate halt to hostilities.
2. **Monitoring and Verification**: OSCE to monitor and verify the ceasefire.
3. **Decentralization**: Adoption of a Ukrainian law granting self-governance to certain areas of Donbas.
4. **Border Control**: Permanent monitoring of the Ukrainian-Russian border by the OSCE.
5. **Release of Hostages**: Immediate release of all hostages and illegally detained persons.
6. **Amnesty**: Law preventing prosecution for events in Donbas.
7. **National Dialogue**: Continue inclusive national dialogue.
8. **Humanitarian Situation**: Measures to improve the humanitarian situation in Donbas.
9. **Local Elections**: Early local elections in accordance with Ukrainian law.
10. **Withdrawal of Forces**: Withdrawal of illegal armed groups and military equipment.
11. **Economic Recovery**: Programme for economic recovery and reconstruction of Donbas.
12. **Security for Participants**: Personal security for consultation participants

### Minsk II (2015)
1. **Immediate and Comprehensive Ceasefire**: Similar to Minsk I.
2. **Withdrawal of Heavy Weapons**: Withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line.
3. **OSCE Monitoring**: Enhanced OSCE monitoring.
4. **Border Control**: Return of control over the Ukrainian-Russian border after local elections.
5. **Local Elections**: Elections in Donbas under OSCE standards and Ukrainian law.
6. **Special Status**: Permanent special status for Donbas regions through constitutional reform
7. **Amnesty**: Amnesty for those involved in the conflict.
8. **Humanitarian Aid**: Humanitarian aid access to affected areas.
9. **Economic Support**: Economic support and recovery for Donbas.
10. **Withdrawal of Foreign Troops**: Withdrawal of all foreign armed formations, military equipment, and mercenaries from Ukrainian territory

The boldened 3 and 6 is autonomy for Donbas

Poormanpikin:
The fact that Ukrainians support the war and want to join NATO makes my support valid. Besides, I can't side with a dictator who wants to take what belongs to his neighbor. You can't cry more than the bereaved. If Ukrainians said they'll not now to Putin and will rather fight to the last person, so be it.


Biden and EU didn't promise Ukraine that they will join NATO soon, they were only focused on sending military aids to them. At times, his administration did rule out Ukraine joining NATO just that I can't remember the exact scenario. Ukraine will defeat Russia.

Biden didn't promise them so what started the war in the 1st place? Biden promised what he can't keep.


At 1st I supported Ukraine hoping they would either stop Russia or worst case seek negotiations I didn't expect a meaningless war for 3 years and counting with no aim or direction??

if Europe will waste taxpayers money on Ukraines meaningless war Goodluck to them. US won't waste anymore taxpayers money funding an aimless war.

Poormanpikin:
Can you provide evidence for this assertion? You may screenshot an article that back this assertion please.

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2024/03/missile-woes-for-german-navy/

https://africa.businessinsider.com/military-and-defense/a-trident-missile-test-fired-by-a-uk-submarine-failed-thats-a-lot-of-money-down-the/1p0t3cj

jaxxy:
Biden didn't promise them so what started the war in the 1st place? Biden promised what he can't keep.


At 1st I supported Ukraine hoping they would either stop Russia or worst case seek negotiations I didn't expect a meaningless war for 3 years and counting with no aim or direction??

if Europe will waste taxpayers money on Ukraines meaningless war Goodluck to them. US won't waste anymore taxpayers money funding an aimless war.

Putin said he was denazifying and demilitarizing Ukraine because they were commiting genocide against Russian minorites in Donbass region.

Krismas:
The boldened 3 and 6 is autonomy for Donbas

Ukrainian law NOT Russian law or Donbas Law!

Krismas:
Donbas never wanted EU.
So, Donbas elected to join Russia

EU is not a country sir