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AbuTwins:
I like you subtle admission that Jesus nor any Prophet before him was ever Christian. So no one needs to be Christian to gain eternal life as Jesus was asked by the rich ruler. And Jesus didn't give two dispensations. The dispensations came with Paul and co who were the first Christians!

Thank you. I chose the main steam narrative. The narratives of the evil perpetrators who admitted they were mistaken to have attacked Iraq.

USA is a terrorist hub!
And that's the truth!

Point of correction, the word "Christian" wasn't coined by Jesus, Paul or any of the apostles for that matter.
People called them Christians because they were found to be followers of Christ (Jesus) and His teachings.
These teachings of Christ was what ushered in the new dispensation I talked about.
Sharing these thoughts of Christ with attendant demonstration of the power that backs it up (the power of the Holy Ghost) is the only means of spreading Christianity round the world. It has been so since the days of the apostles. It has nothing to do with terrorism or any other sort of bloodshed. Islam on the other hand...
And your grouse with Pauline teachings should be topic for another day.
Thanks

Trueprophet91:
Point of correction, the word "Christian" wasn't coined by Jesus, Paul or any of the apostles for that matter.
People called them Christians because they were found to be followers of Christ (Jesus) and His teachings.
These teachings of Christ was what ushered in the new dispensation I talked about.
Sharing these thoughts of Christ with attendant demonstration of the power that backs it up (the power of the Holy Ghost) is the only means of spreading Christianity round the world. It has been so since the days of the apostles. It has nothing to do with terrorism or any other sort of bloodshed. Islam on the other hand...
And your grouse with Pauline teachings should be topic for another day.
Thanks

Yeah, the word "Christlike" (or Christian) was coined by an unknown non-Christian to decribe people who are supossedly following Christ!
Abeg where did Jesus call anyone Christian?
You just keep confirming that Christianity is from man!

Lukuluku69:
Delusional ignorant that you are. I don't have to waste my time with you.

Moses fought in Wars. Led Wars. Ordered killings. Go read how many Israelites Moses ordered killed when they Worshiped the Bull that they made with Gold. Or that part is not in your own Bible or he was not a Prophet then?

Moses ordered the killing of a man caught violating the Sabbath on the command of Jehovah who you Dotards claimed is same as Jesus or Jesus ⅓. Or he was not a Prophet then too?

You couldn't answer my questions to point out similar prophets that came before Mohammad and were morally bankrupt and perverse like Mohammad. What a pity! And you have to follow such a moralless prophet? No prophet of true God in the past married underage and rendered her barren due to sexual abusiveness on teenage girl. No prophet of true God slept with their slaves to commit adultery like Mohammad did on the matrimonial bed of his wife.

No prophet snatched wife of his close poor adopted son with just only one wife without remorse except Mohammad despite he had many wives. No true prophet of God was accused of stealing red-velvet except Mohammad by his apostles. Even you are more morally better than whom you called your prophet, how can he then come from true God? Your prophet is a fake prophet as Moses earlier prophesied in Deuteronomy 18 vs 15,18:


Deuteronomy 18:15 says:

"The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him." (NIV)

And Deuteronomy 18:18 says:

"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him." (NIV)

Moses said God will raise up prophet like HIM in moral conduct and meekness like Moses was known. And that that prophet will be from among you(among isrealites). Your Prophet Muhammad failed woefully to fit prophesy of Moses because he was born outside Israel (Saudi Arabia/ Arabs). Only Jesus was born from Isreal many years after Moses prophesy. Jesus perfectly fits into the prophesy which were later confirmed from other chapters of the Jewish Bible.

Also, Moses pointed out that prophet will be like him in good moral adherence and meekness. Mohammad failed woefully to score a goal here. That was why I asked you if Moses or other prophets were morally perverse like your prophet. Did Moses sleep with underage before like Mohammad because Mohammad knew it was bad because he couldn't give out her own teenage daughter to his companion that requested to marry. Did Moses sleep with his slave on his matrimonial bed. Did Moses steal red velvet as Mohammad was accused by his companion.

So, Mohammad was not like Moses as prophesied, therefore; he is a fake moralless prophet then that you should be weary of following because you look more moral than him except you married underage too or showing acts of worse behaviour. However, Jesus fits into that prophesy because in Moral standard, he even surpass Moses moral template and Jesus was full of meekness, but Mohammad was full of violence and war.


Moses did not kill anyone in the Bible out of malice or cruelty after being a prophet like Mohammad did. At times Moses was begging God on behalf of Isreal not to get angry at them. Even Mohammad acknowledged he feeds from war meaning he is a troublesome person that staged or instigate war to feed which is liken to robbery/raiding for daily leaving as stated in
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 143, Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4326 that:

"My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated."

and Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 142, Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 14, Number 2532 that:

"My provision has been placed under the shade of my spear."

It means Mohammad purposely fight war to feed which is like what arm robbers are doing to feed and raise money not different from banditry.

So, don't compare war in Moses era for those that failed adherence to 10 given commandments to Mohammad warring to feed or sustain his livelihood. Moses did not kill for feeding purposes. And once there is law, there is no sin. Moses Killing the idolaters (Exodus 32:25-28) was not war like Mohammad raid to feed. After Moses received the Ten Commandments from God, he returned to the Israelite camp to find the people worshiping a golden calf ( neglecting God that brought them from Egypt or shewed them mighty signs and wonders).

In his anger, Moses ordered the Levites to kill those who were involved in the idolatry. Moses' actions were motivated by his sense of justice and his desire to protect his people.

sreamsense:
You couldn't answer my questions to point out similar prophets that came before Mohammad and were morally bankrupt and perverse like Mohammad. What a pity! And you have to follow such a moralless prophet? No prophet of true God in the past married underage and rendered her barren due to sexual abusiveness on teenage girl. No prophet of true God slept with their slaves to commit adultery like Mohammad did on the matrimonial bed of his wife.

No prophet snatched wife of his close poor adopted son with just only one wife without remorse except Mohammad despite he had many wives. No true prophet of God was accused of stealing red-velvet except Mohammad by his apostles. Even you are more morally better than whom you called your prophet, how can he then come from true God? Your prophet is a fake prophet as Moses earlier prophesied in Deuteronomy 18 vs 15,18:


Deuteronomy 18:15 says:

"The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him." (NIV)

And Deuteronomy 18:18 says:

"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him." (NIV)

Moses said God will raise up prophet like HIM in moral conduct and meekness like Moses was known. And that that prophet will be from among you(among isrealites). Your Prophet Muhammad failed woefully to fit prophesy of Moses because he was born outside Israel (Saudi Arabia/ Arabs). Only Jesus was born from Isreal many years after Moses prophesy. Jesus perfectly fits into the prophesy which were later confirmed from other chapters of the Jewish Bible.

Also, Moses pointed out that prophet will be like him in good moral adherence and meekness. Mohammad failed woefully to score a goal here. That was why I asked you if Moses or other prophets were morally perverse like your prophet. Did Moses sleep with underage before like Mohammad because Mohammad knew it was bad because he couldn't give out her own teenage daughter to his companion that requested to marry. Did Moses sleep with his slave on his matrimonial bed. Did Moses steal red velvet as Mohammad was accused by his companion.

So, Mohammad was not like Moses as prophesied, therefore; he is a fake moralless prophet then that you should be weary of following because you look more moral than him except you married underage too or showing acts of worse behaviour. However, Jesus fits into that prophesy because in Moral standard, he even surpass Moses moral template and Jesus was full of meekness, but Mohammad was full of violence and war.


Moses did not kill anyone in the Bible out of malice or cruelty after being a prophet like Mohammad did. At times Moses was begging God on behalf of Isreal not to get angry at them. Even Mohammad acknowledged he feeds from war meaning he is a troublesome person that staged or instigate war to feed which is liken to robbery/raiding for daily leaving as stated in
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 143, Sahih Muslim, Book 19, Number 4326 that:

"My livelihood is under the shade of my spear, and he who disobeys my orders will be humiliated."

and Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 142, Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 14, Number 2532 that:

"My provision has been placed under the shade of my spear."

It means Mohammad purposely fight war to feed which is like what arm robbers are doing to feed and raise money not different from banditry.

So, don't compare war in Moses era for those that failed adherence to 10 given commandments to Mohammad warring to feed or sustain his livelihood. Moses did not kill for feeding purposes. And once there is law, there is no sin. Moses Killing the idolaters (Exodus 32:25-28) was not war like Mohammad raid to feed. After Moses received the Ten Commandments from God, he returned to the Israelite camp to find the people worshiping a golden calf ( neglecting God that brought them from Egypt or shewed them mighty signs and wonders).

In his anger, Moses ordered the Levites to kill those who were involved in the idolatry. Moses' actions were motivated by his sense of justice and his desire to protect his people.

You will be a waste of my Time.

From the dross you typed as a response I can see that already.

Get your Bible and read read the Book of Numbers Chapter 31. The whole Chapter then come back and tell me about Moses anger.

Well the Israelites though majorly Reprobates acclaimed and accepted Moses as a Spiritual and Temporal Leader, the Arabs holds the same views about Prophet Muhammad while they the Same Israelites you lots worship today say your Jesus is a fake one that they killed him and hanged him just as Moses prophesied in the Book of Deuteronomy. You remember the Dreamer of dreams that will be hanged ? That's your Jesus.

Lukuluku69:
You will be a waste of my Time.

From the dross you typed as a response I can see that already.

Get your Bible and read read the Book of Numbers Chapter 31. The whole Chapter then come back and tell me about Moses anger.

Well the Israelites though majorly Reprobates acclaimed and accepted Moses as a Spiritual and Temporal Leader, the Arabs holds the same views about Prophet Muhammad while they the Same Israelites you lots worship today say your Jesus is a fake one that they killed him and hanged him just as Moses prophesied in the Book of Deuteronomy. You remember the Dreamer of dreams that will be hanged ? That's your Jesus.

You keep repeating you don't have to waste your time, but never answer a single question asked about Mohammad to confirm if he is a true prophet or not. You can't provide any prophet with worse moral behaviour than Mohammad, right? Very shameful that Mohammad you refered to as zeal of prophet can not be defended on a moral ground. How then do you want me to follow someone that you are morally better than?

Stop comparing Mohammad with Moses if you can not answer basic questions and proof how Mohammad fits prophesy of Moses morally and as an outcast prophet outside Isrealites. You have not proven how Mohammad is a true prophet and exonorate him from his amoral lifestyle different from what true prophets are known for.

Killing Jesus and hanging him on the cross as you claimed is what further proved that Jesus is a true prophet that Moses was talking about and expected by Isreal. Why? Because there were many prophesies even aside Moses that prophesied that Jesus will be crucified many centuries before it happened; that is why Mohammad was not that prophet that Moses talked about. So, stop equating Mohammad to Moses, because he is never close to Moses in moral conduct and meekness that Moses was well known for.

One of the prophecies in the Bible that foretells the crucifixion of Jesus Christ as someone that will be killed and hanged on the cross is Psalm 22:16-18:

"For dogs have surrounded me; a band of evildoers has encompassed me, they pierced my hands and my feet. I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me."

This prophesy was not from Moses, but another Isrealites prophet that Mohammad counter as respected prophet in Islam known as King David wrote this prophesy around 1000 BC, foretold the crucifixion of Jesus in vivid detail that:

1. The piercing of hands and feet (v. 16)
2. The counting of bones (v. 17), which pointed to the soldiers counting the bones to ensure none were broken in New testament (John 19:31-37)

Another prophecy that Jesus will be killed and hanged on the cross is in Deuteronomy 21:22-23:

"If someone guilty of a capital offense is put to death and their body is exposed on a pole, you must not leave the body hanging on the pole overnight. Be sure to bury it that same day, because anyone who is hung on a pole is under God’s curse."

This passage was written by Moses around 1200 BC, which speaks of someone being "hung on a pole" (or cross), which is exactly what happened to Jesus in fulfillment of Moses prophesy. Jesus became a curse for our own redemption to save humanity

Other prophecies that foretell crucifixion of Jesus include: Isaiah 53:5-6: which describes the suffering servant who would be pierced for our transgressions. Zechariah 12:10, which speaks of the Messiah being pierced.

These prophecies were written centuries before the birth of Jesus which further demonstrated the remarkable accuracy and fulfillment of biblical prophecy. So, you referring to Jesus being killed and crucified is just a testament that Jesus is the true prophet that Moses talked about while Mohammad was a false prophet that Moses warned Isrealites about, and which Jesus further warned followers to beware of.

Also, that Isrealites even rejected Jesus is not new either as it was another confirmation that Jesus is the true prophet Moses talked about while Mohammad was a fake prophet Moses talked about. True prophets of God had already prophesied that Isrealites will reject Jesus. In Psalm 118:22-23:

"The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes."

This was from a respected prophet David that even Muslim holds in high esteem speaks of the Messiah (Jesus) being rejected by the builders (the Jewish leaders), but becoming the cornerstone of God's plan.

In Isaiah 53:1-3 prophesy:

"Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain."

This passage from prophet Isaiah describes that Messiah (Jesus) will even be rejected and despised by humanity like you. So, you must wake up and come to Jesus. In Isaiah 6:9-10 prophesy:

"He said, 'Go and tell this people: “Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.” Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.'"

This passage was also from prophet Isaiah that foretold Israelites' spiritual blindness and hardness of heart, which would lead them to reject the Messiah ( Jesus Christ). John 12:37-40:

"Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: 'Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?' For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere: 'He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them.'"

You can see here that John quoted Isaiah 53:1 and 6:10, pointing to fulfillment of that prophecy in the rejection of Jesus by the Israelites. These prophecies were written many centuries before the birth of Jesus, which further demonstrated the remarkable accuracy and fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

Can you give me 10 of such prophesies that were spoken by the true prophets that you claimed to refrence in Islam that pointed to Mohammad fulfilling them except being fake prophet? So, it is not a new thing that Isreal will reject Jesus due to their spiritual blindness as prophesied and killing Jesus and hanged on the cross were foretold, you pointing them out is just reminding yourself as I explained that Jesus is real and true prophet that was talked about. Stop following Mohammad, come to Jesus today, he is full of love and compassion, Jesus will not get angry with you like Mohammad would have done

Lukuluku69:
Feel free to create your own happiness.

Only a sadistic person will say this in this situation

Teymanhenry:
Only a sadistic person will say this in this situation

And Only an Incurable Delusional individual will say 70% live a Christian life in Nigeria ( whatever that means)

sreamsense:
You keep repeating you don't have to waste your time, but never answer a single question asked about Mohammad to confirm if he is a true prophet or not. You can't provide any prophet with worse moral behaviour than Mohammad, right? Very shameful that Mohammad you refered to as zeal of prophet can not be defended on a moral ground. How then do you want me to follow someone that you are morally better than?

Stop comparing Mohammad with Moses if you can not answer basic questions and proof how Mohammad fits prophesy of Moses morally and as an outcast prophet outside Isrealites. You have not proven how Mohammad is a true prophet and exonorate him from his amoral lifestyle different from what true prophets are known for.

Killing Jesus and hanging him on the cross as you claimed is what further proved that Jesus is a true prophet that Moses was talking about and expected by Isreal. Why? Because there were many prophesies even aside Moses that prophesied that Jesus will be crucified many centuries before it happened; that is why Mohammad was not that prophet that Moses talked about. So, stop equating Mohammad to Moses, because he is never close to Moses in moral conduct and meekness that Moses was well known for.

One of the prophecies in the Bible that foretells the crucifixion of Jesus Christ as someone that will be killed and hanged on the cross is Psalm 22:16-18:

"For dogs have surrounded me; a band of evildoers has encompassed me, they pierced my hands and my feet. I can count all my bones. They look, they stare at me."

This prophesy was not from Moses, but another Isrealites prophet that Mohammad counter as respected prophet in Islam known as King David wrote this prophesy around 1000 BC, foretold the crucifixion of Jesus in vivid detail that:

1. The piercing of hands and feet (v. 16)
2. The counting of bones (v. 17), which pointed to the soldiers counting the bones to ensure none were broken in New testament (John 19:31-37)

Another prophecy that Jesus will be killed and hanged on the cross is in Deuteronomy 21:22-23:

"If someone guilty of a capital offense is put to death and their body is exposed on a pole, you must not leave the body hanging on the pole overnight. Be sure to bury it that same day, because anyone who is hung on a pole is under God’s curse."

This passage was written by Moses around 1200 BC, which speaks of someone being "hung on a pole" (or cross), which is exactly what happened to Jesus in fulfillment of Moses prophesy. Jesus became a curse for our own redemption to save humanity

Other prophecies that foretell crucifixion of Jesus include: Isaiah 53:5-6: which describes the suffering servant who would be pierced for our transgressions. Zechariah 12:10, which speaks of the Messiah being pierced.

These prophecies were written centuries before the birth of Jesus which further demonstrated the remarkable accuracy and fulfillment of biblical prophecy. So, you referring to Jesus being killed and crucified is just a testament that Jesus is the true prophet that Moses talked about while Mohammad was a false prophet that Moses warned Isrealites about, and which Jesus further warned followers to beware of.

Also, that Isrealites even rejected Jesus is not new either as it was another confirmation that Jesus is the true prophet Moses talked about while Mohammad was a fake prophet Moses talked about. True prophets of God had already prophesied that Isrealites will reject Jesus. In Psalm 118:22-23:

"The stone that the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. This is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes."

This was from a respected prophet David that even Muslim holds in high esteem speaks of the Messiah (Jesus) being rejected by the builders (the Jewish leaders), but becoming the cornerstone of God's plan.

In Isaiah 53:1-3 prophesy:

"Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by mankind, a man of suffering, and familiar with pain."

This passage from prophet Isaiah describes that Messiah (Jesus) will even be rejected and despised by humanity like you. So, you must wake up and come to Jesus. In Isaiah 6:9-10 prophesy:

"He said, 'Go and tell this people: “Be ever hearing, but never understanding; be ever seeing, but never perceiving.” Make the heart of this people calloused; make their ears dull and close their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.'"

This passage was also from prophet Isaiah that foretold Israelites' spiritual blindness and hardness of heart, which would lead them to reject the Messiah ( Jesus Christ). John 12:37-40:

"Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet: 'Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?' For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere: 'He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn—and I would heal them.'"

You can see here that John quoted Isaiah 53:1 and 6:10, pointing to fulfillment of that prophecy in the rejection of Jesus by the Israelites. These prophecies were written many centuries before the birth of Jesus, which further demonstrated the remarkable accuracy and fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

Can you give me 10 of such prophesies that were spoken by the true prophets that you claimed to refrence in Islam that pointed to Mohammad fulfilling them except being fake prophet? So, it is not a new thing that Isreal will reject Jesus due to their spiritual blindness as prophesied and killing Jesus and hanged on the cross were foretold, you pointing them out is just reminding yourself as I explained that Jesus is real and true prophet that was talked about. Stop following Mohammad, come to Jesus today, he is full of love and compassion, Jesus will not get angry with you like Mohammad would have done

Be typing as if a Typewriter resides in you.

Of all the Prophesies of Moses and others for your Jesus , go to Israel today and say Jesus is your Lord and Saviour, the inhabitants will spit on your Ignorant head but go the The Arabian and mention Prophet Muhammad name and watch their Reaction.

If All what you typed applies to Jesus why are his supposedly CHILDREN don't know him? Remember your Jesus is God in human flesh. Lol

Like I said, I don't have time for all these back and forth. We have done so severally on this Forum unless you are new on here.

I can over a Dozen similarities between Moses and Prophet Muhammad. Iron cast similarities but all you will reply with are the senseless drones you have been fed with.

Lukuluku69:
And Only an Incurable Delusional individual will say 70% live a Christian life in Nigeria ( whatever that means)

Do you even know what percentage means?
Which hole did this thing came out of? Lemme just rest this case. You can say whatever you wish to say. Your opinion

Teymanhenry:
Do you even know what percentage means?
Which hole did this thing came out of? Lemme just rest this case. You can say whatever you wish to say. Your opinion

Perhaps the same hole Your forebears crawled out from.