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MaxInDHouse:
This is what God told the Israelites about Christ:

I will raise up for them from the midst of their brothers a prophet like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him. Indeed, I will require an account from the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. Deuteronomy 18:18-19

God told His people that someone will later come to TEACH them in His name but the Jews rejected Jesus, do you know why?

Well it's because he said so many things that totally contradicts what they knew before as RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Peter confirmed that Jesus of Nazareth is that promised prophet who is coming to teach them how to get to Paradise {Act 3:22} that's why the Christian congregation will not appoint any polygamist to lead or teach in Christianity:

The overseer should therefore be irreprehensible, a husband of one wife, moderate in habits, sound in mind, orderly, hospitable, qualified to teach. 1Timothy 3:2

If there is any man free from accusation, a husband of one wife, having believing children who are not accused of debauchery or rebelliousness. Titus 1:6

I wouldn't have engage you if you aren't appealing to CHRISTIANS!

Firstly u hve misinterpreted Deuteronomy 18 v 18.....Just as u always do with other scriptures to fit into ur own model of self righteouness.......I won't comment on that but...
Secondly: Oga, thank you for going this path of Titus 1:6....I've been waiting for you to quote that scripture that says ...."must be husband of one wife"..
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Now what that scripture is saying is directed solely to over seers and shepherd of a church which is understandable......cos more than one wife can present issues at home and distraction for the shepherd whose sole aim is to feed the flock...Does this admonition by Titus mean two wives is a sin? NO! DOES this admonition also mean there are no men with multiple wives in the congregation? No, that admonition actually mean as a matter of fact that some brethren in the church had two wives...which disqualifies them for that leadership post because of it's demand not because of it being sinful..... otherwise Titus would have said brethren with two wives are hell bound and must repent from their sin.....

Also because of God's work....Paul once says he would even prefer we don't even Marry at all.....he once said a married man would worry more about family than God.....So it's therefore clear as to why sheperd should have one wife or even none like Paul.......these admonition is never about a man of two wives being a sinner......... otherwise, those holy apostle would have said it..... which is obvious when Paul was disgusted that men slept with their father's wife and not disgusted that such man had a second wife the way u guys are now disgusted....,,I wonder why u guys now inventing what was never written in the scriptures
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This is the scriptures I will like u to consider written by Paul is

1Cor.5.1 - I also received a report of scandalous sex within your church family, a kind that wouldn't be tolerated even outside the church: One of YOUR MEN SLEEPING WITH HIS STEP MOTHER....MSB

1Cor.5.1 - It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father's wife.......NIV

1Cor.5.1 - It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.......KJV

I used 3 translations so that we can all understand the context: which clearly means that certain brother was was having affair with his Father's wife or step mother. Of course Paul never was concerned about why a man would have two wives in this context, but he was clearly bitter as to why a brethren would sleep with his step mom, which clearly contradict Leviticus 18 v 8 which says- "Don't have sex with your father's wife. That violates your father"......MSB
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Obviously u guys know more than paul

Even in Jesus time there were plural marriages and Jesus for once never spoke against it.

You guys don let oyinbo monogamy enter your brain!

What is clear is that God made laws for Polygamy!

God permitted polygamy!

Moses, Abraham, Jacob, Lamech, Gideon, David, Solomon, etc were all Polygamous!

And someone said they were not Christians! How many Prophets were Christian in the Bible? None! So that's a shut up!

And to the one flipping the topic over making women marry two men! Show us where such is available and permitted by Jehovah in the Bible?
Probably Sarah married Laban with Abraham in the NWT they use!

FreeSpirited:
More than one wife can present issues at home and distraction.

Well Jesus said:
"If, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·henʹna" Matthew 5:29

So before the completion of the Bible God's servants knew partially what righteousness means because they see things faintly {1Corinthians 13:9} but after the Bible has been completed {1Corinthians 13:10} we make use of this book for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17

So a Christian must always be a man of God who is fully competent and completely equipped for all good works.

Q FreeSpirited

Here is what a Muslim has to say about the topic you raised.

AbuTwins:
Even in Jesus time there were plural marriages and Jesus for once never spoke against it.
You guys don let oyinbo monogamy enter your brain! What is clear is that God made laws for Polygamy!
God permitted polygamy!
Moses, Abraham, Jacob, Lamech, Gideon, David, Solomon, etc were all Polygamous! And someone said they were not Christians! How many Prophets were Christian in the Bible? None! So that's a shut up! And to the one flipping the topic over making women marry two men! Show us where such is available and permitted by Jehovah in the Bible? Probably Sarah married Laban with Abraham in the NWT they use!

So it's a free world, choose wisely. 1Thessalonians 5:21

Do have a wonderful day!

MaxInDHouse:
Q FreeSpirited

Here is what a Muslim has to say about the topic you raised.



So it's a free world, choose wisely. 1Thessalonians 5:21

Do have a wonderful day!

.The Muslim comment is even more reasonable than the self-righteousness u been trying to do spinning the scriptures to judge every man with two wives..which Jesus never did...not even the apostles cos no single proof the Apostles did such.....
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MaxInDHouse:
Well Jesus said:
"If, now, your right eye is making you stumble, tear it out and throw it away from you. For it is better for you to lose one of your members than for your whole body to be pitched into Ge·henʹna" Matthew 5:29

So before the completion of the Bible God's servants knew partially what righteousness means because they see things faintly {1Corinthians 13:9} but after the Bible has been completed {1Corinthians 13:10} we make use of this book for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, so that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2Timothy 3:16-17

So a Christian must always be a man of God who is fully competent and completely equipped for all good works.

Oga. Everything u wrote here is to feel yourself righteous for having one wife , and feel a man with two wives is a sinner.........and I haven't seen any scriptures from Genesis to revelation that says so....Rest.
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And if u will not, I can see u are trying to feel being under Jesus makes u more righteous than old testament servant..lol....u must be joking...u must really overrate ur righteousness...Oga u are doing exactly the way Pharisees do... nothing less...Hebrew 11 already told us how those men of Faith were justified and deem righteous in the eyes of God. I don't know the scriptures u guys read..
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Christian aren't more righteous than old testament servant of God..we only received grace under Christ by Read Romans 5 and Galatians 3.......ur monogamy or polygamy is not the justification for our righteousness in christ....lol
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Oga ur understanding of the scriptures is narrow, legalistic ND phariseestic..
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Good day. Now I know ur frame of reference...no need to argue again.

FreeSpirited:
.The Muslim comment is even more reasonable than the self-righteousness u been trying to do spinning the scriptures to judge every man with two wives..which Jesus never did...not even the apostles ......

To judge?

Please nobody is judging anybody here!

You asked for a Christian view regarding polygamy and i showed you what early Christians practiced in view of Paradise in their hearts.

So this is not about judging because they didn't judge anyone who is already married into polygamous family all they did is to deprive such ones from holding a position in the Christian congregation which no sane individual will like to thread such path after seeing what the Apostles are doing to polygamists.

Please make use of what they practiced back then and decide for yourself what you will do. Galatians 6:5

MaxInDHouse:
To judge?

Please nobody is judging anybody here!

You asked for a Christian view regarding polygamy and i showed you what early Christians practiced in view of Paradise in their hearts.

So this is not about judging because they didn't judge anyone who is already married into polygamous family all they did is to deprive such ones from holding a position in the Christian congregation which no sane individual will like to thread such path after seeing what the Apostles are doing to polygamists.

Please make use of what they practiced back then and decide for yourself what you will do. Galatians 6:5

Titus 1: 6 was just an admonition to foster peace, good standing and image, not Law.

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As a matter of fact there are many one wife shepherd whose life , devotion and family and children would be worse than a shepherd with two wives whose house is peaceful and children are godly....so there must be exception..not for u to say all instances of polygamy is sin...I don't know where u guys read that
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Case in point....Eli had one wife..yet his sons were disgrace to the house and service of God....and they end up rubbishin the ministry of their father...no be one wife be dat? Are u now saying God wouldn't hVE felt better for Eli if he had two wives with children who are righteous?
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Case in point Samuel came from polygamous home, yet he was the one God approved instead of the sons of Eli....Pls...let me rest

FreeSpirited:
Pls...let me rest

May you have Peace!

FreeSpirited:
Ezra 10:3
Now you have misinterpreted Ezra 10v 3.........Those guys decided within themselves to put away STRANGE WIVES BORN OF WOMEN FROM IDOLATROUS TRIBE

.......Ezra 9 also said same thing , Ezra 10 v 2 says same thing.......u guys are so self righteous, cunny and terrible the way u misinterpret scriptures..........

Lev.18.8 - "'Do not have sexual relations with your FATHER'S WIFE; that would dishonor your father.
Lev.18.11 - "'Do not have sexual relations with the DAUGHTER OF YOUR FATHER'S WIFE, born to your father; she is your sister

"Those guys decided within themselves". Is this not the meaning of repentance? And is God's Salvation not about saving anyone who does not want to enter into His Wrath? So this statement has no value here.

'WOMEN FROM IDOLATROUS TRIBE'. After Ezra, can you see any righteous man having more than one wife?

Even these your words "women from idolatrous nations" shows that by God's Law, Isreal's women did not marry their men as second wives.

AI overview
Ezra's Reform:
While Ezra strongly advocated for the Israelites to return to the Law of Moses, including the practice of monogamy, his efforts did not completely eliminate polygamy among the people.

So, you see they had their first wife, mostly an Isrealite and therefore they could not marry a second Isrealite woman but had to go outside Isreal to break The Law.

Same thing which Nehemiah applied.

Nehemiah's Actions:
The book of Nehemiah describes a situation where many Jewish men had married foreign women, (obviously because no Isrealite woman wanted to marry them and break The Law.)
prompting Nehemiah to lead a similar reform movement to Ezra, requiring these men to divorce their foreign wives.

So, from these, you see Isreal knew God prohibited polygamy even if they did not easily obey it in those days

But, it is very clear now as seen from the new testament, you do not see any Isrealite with 2 wives

So it is a case of you planning to disobey God and break His Commandment like others have done.

FreeSpirited:
Why din't u comment on the bolded since it was a law God was spelling out to Isrealites
Comment on it and prove that it doesn't mean a man having another wife

I did. Those verses are not standing alone. They are in The Law against Lusts and abominations.

Leviticus 18:24 -30
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled

29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the Lord your God.

So you are trying to use an abomination to commit sin?

FreeSpirited:
Deuteronomy 17 v 17 was talking about a king having MANY WIVES

This was argued in the thread and it did not hold.

FreeSpirited:
Why do u just pick one scenario to justify that Abraham dint have two wives when countless cases of servants of God having multiple wives abound....

He specifically stated only Abraham, so I addressed only that.

As for the others, not one of them Sorted God's Mark of "PERFECT'. "Be ye perfect'./Genesis 17:1 says, "Walk before me, [b]and be thou perfect"

And those who scored that Mark were those having one wife. That is, Noah and Job[/b]

And that is why the it is Written "Ye are without excuse". Romans 1:20.

Is it adultery if a Christian bachelor marries two women or virgins at a time?

I know this question came as a result of considering how most people you view as men of God frown at polygamy.

Though they only feel it's wrong but they don't know how to expatiate using God's word. I remember discussing with one of my colleagues who is a pastor in one of the churches of Christendom and how he really thanked me for sharing my own views using the scriptures.

Please don't be upset this is just what we Jehovah's Witnesses believe but since your pastor may not believe the same thing do whatever pleases you!

FreeSpirited:
In Old testament it was normal to marry two or more wives
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I have read the scriptures very well, and I have not found any convincing evidence both in new and old testament that marrying two wives legally is a sin.
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Modern Christians believe that after marrying one wife, if u add another one, then u have committed fornication/adultery. Now I have 2 questions

First question: What if after marrying the first wife, I saw a widow or a virgin, and I never slept with her until after I legally married her as second wife. How will that be term adultery or fornication?

Second question: What if when I wanted to marry my first wife, I instead engaged two women or two virgin, and they both agreed, and I never slept with either of them until after marriage ceremony was done for both of them same day. Is that fornication and how is it fornication/adultery?

I will love your answers with sound scriptural backing....and please read and understand the scenario I painted. Thank you

be it old or new testament there is no command that a man must marry, neither is there a command that a man must marry one woman.

For first question: it is not adultery, adultery is when a woman sleeps with any man who isn't her husband and any man who sleeps with another man's wife.

For second question: it is not fornication, fornicators lack commitment and are selfish pleasure seekers, who are immoral and unfaithful. You neither lied to any nor cheated any, but we're honest.

StillDtruth:
You are not the first to think how can commit sin and escape the punishment of God.



In the old, the whole world was full of paganism is why all over the world people practiced the adultery of marrying many wives, whether in Africa or Europe.

So, through Abraham, God started changing the world wide practices of paganism and polygamy.

Which is why you see Christianity came to cut down paganism.



Yes! It is adultery and intent to commit adultery for you are already married.



This is fornication, Whoredom and adultery using the cover of marriage.

You already see the hell that pours out when you have a girl and you went pursuing another one, so how is possible that they would agree?

It is only prostitutes aka whorres who will do that.

So you would be guilty of intent to commit whoredom, whoredom, intent to commit adultery and intent to use marriage to cover adultery, adultery and defiling of the marriage bed etc!

See people planning to deceive God like Ananias and Sapphira. Smh.

so in simple terms you are saying freespirited will be guilty even without evidence?

Well freespirited you would have to get a good advocate because this one is ready to send you to hell o

MaxInDHouse:
Surely you are not comfortable sharing your wife with any other man so why do you think any woman will like to share her man with another woman? Matthew 7:12
Well Jesus taught us what will be applicable in Paradise where there won't be oldage, sickness, poverty or death.
So if you want to fit in to that system you have to start practicing what God's Kingdom want now, Paradise is for one man and one woman just as God instituted in the beginning! Matthew 19:4

May you have Peace!

yeah right, because there will be sex and making love in "paradise" 😂

StillDtruth:
Truly, on the face of it, he went off point.

However, his response is meant to address your aim of using marriage to perpetuate polygamy

For Who is The Ruler of Marriages? Is it God or you men?

If it is you men then you should not bother yourself about the Laws of fornication, and adultery etc for all these are God's Laws.

Therefore you can do as you like and if you have any problems you can go to your men's court for just is.

But if God is The One, then you have other Laws that are burning you right now eg Did you read that as God Judged Ananias so Judged He Sapphira?

Or did you not hear His Law is "An eye for an eye aka if you want an extra wife then your wife has a right to an extra husband?

So you can see when He is ready to punish you, one of Hid Judgements is that your wives shall marry their own husbands as you have done to them.

😂😂 true Max post was off as it can be like that some times but yours here eh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

gohf:
so in simple terms you are saying freespirited will be guilty even without evidence?

Well freespirited you would have to get a good advocate because this one is ready to send you to hell o

Yes!

Guilt starts with your mind and the intention to sin. That is why we have the word "premeditation" to catch any guilty person even before he commits an offence.

I once told you to go read up "mens rea" and see where and when a person's guilt starts counting.

StillDtruth:
"Those guys decided within themselves". Is this not the meaning of repentance? And is God's Salvation not about saving anyone who does not want to enter into His Wrath? So this statement has no value here.

'WOMEN FROM IDOLATROUS TRIBE'. After Ezra, can you see any righteous man having more than one wife?

Even these your words "women from idolatrous nations" shows that by God's Law, Isreal's women did not marry their men as second wives.

AI overview
Ezra's Reform:
While Ezra strongly advocated for the Israelites to return to the Law of Moses, including the practice of monogamy, his efforts did not completely eliminate polygamy among the people.

So, you see they had their first wife, mostly an Isrealite and therefore they could not marry a second Isrealite woman but had to go outside Isreal to break The Law.

Same thing which Nehemiah applied.

Nehemiah's Actions:
The book of Nehemiah describes a situation where many Jewish men had married foreign women, (obviously because no Isrealite woman wanted to marry them and break The Law.)
prompting Nehemiah to lead a similar reform movement to Ezra, requiring these men to divorce their foreign wives.

So, from these, you see Isreal knew God prohibited polygamy even if they did not easily obey it in those days

But, it is very clear now as seen from the new testament, you do not see any Isrealite with 2 wives

So it is a case of you planning to disobey God and break His Commandment like others have done.



I did. Those verses are not standing alone. They are in The Law against Lusts and abominations.

Leviticus 18:24 -30
Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you:

26 Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you:

27 (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled

29 For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people.

30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the Lord your God.

So you are trying to use an abomination to commit sin?



This was argued in the thread and it did not hold.

1. Everything here is ur own subjective misinterpretation with no authority...imagine using AI to make conclusion....Oga rest..I won't attack all erroneous conclusion cos it's too many
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2You clearly don't even understand the history and context of Ezra and Nehemiah period.... obviously.
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3. U could not even understand Leviticus 18 that is so straightforward and how u make it a matter that sanctions ONLY ONE WIFE needs to be studied in Harvard and Oxford.
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4. You clearly don't even know why God warn Isrealites from marrying strange woman. Of course with little bible study u will know it's solely for the reason that strange women maybe idolatrous which may seduce Isrealites men to follow strange god's....e.g Ahab, Solomon following strange gods through strange women he married............

But we all know Moses also married a strange woman! The Ethiopian woman was a strange woman yet God dint judge Moses for it, God even fought Mariam and punish elders that complained about it....Why did u think God wasn't bothered by the Ethiopian woman Moses married? Simple Bible study will tell u it's simply because Moses was YET STILL FAITHFUL AND THE WOMAN NEVER MADE HIM SERVE OTHER gods .....

Now, in the scriptures we have a number of GOd servant that also married strange women , even multiple, who are aren't Israeli yet It wasn't counted as sin.. including David, Joseph,…....

In Ezra period there was widespread idolatory and immorality....its a matter of them following idol worship and that was why Israeli wants to rid themselves of those idol worshipping women, and turn away from idol worship. It's not about polygamy....u guys are a joke with no deep understanding of biblical context .


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MaxInDHouse:
You have spoken well by saying polygamy is found in the Bible but you need to know that it wasn't permitted for all times.
Take for instance incest was permitted when Adam's descendants were about to procreate they got married to their own siblings, Lot impregnated his own two daughters after the death of their mother and all the men they had in the land of Sodom, Judah (Jacob's fourth son) impregnated his daughter in-law but later God condemned all these acts in the mosaic laws.
When Christ came he made it clear to his disciples that they must not do what they won't accept to their neighbours {Matthew 7:12} and when it comes to marriage they should remember what God instituted in the beginning! Matthew 19:4

Regarding polyandry (marrying more than one husband) many cultures around the world are doing it because they don't know the Abrahamic God so if you want to preach Christianity to such ones how do you defend polygamy when it's not what God established in the beginning yet condemned polyandry?

So to establish a balance Christian view we must stick to what God instituted in the beginning because that is what will be applicable in Paradise: One man (Adam) and one woman (Eve)

May you have peace!

You need to state when polygamy stopped being permitted and who brought a stop to it?

At least incest you are trying to associate with polygamy was clearly no more permitted and put an end to, according to the morals written by Moses which permits polygamy as well.

By the way writing Lot impregnated his daughters is a subtle way of avoiding the fact that his daughters got him drunk and "raped" him. Now not sure how you somehow go off point or dont make any 🤦, but Judah sleeping with a widow isn't incest, if it were then the law encouraging siblings to impregnate their late brother's widows who had no children should be promoting incest as well.

Twisting Matt 7:12 to fit your logic is pathetic 🤣🤣 but I do respect you quoting, Matt.19.4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,.. just that Jesus was speaking concerning divorce and not polygamy nor against it. Infact when God spoke in Genesis about Marriage He spoke to the women and not to men.

Well it's common sense that women can only submit to one lord, as the people submit to only one king and to only one God.

Polyandry been practiced shouldnt be an excuse to misuse scripture and suggest an eye for an eye 😅. And to be frank how should a man submit to two different men, who would she truly obey? Do you understand of purpose of what God said in Genesis and the reference made by Jesus to that beginning?

Anyway, you do know that the person Moses who wrote and the man would the joined to his wife, married a second wife 😏😊😄

StillDtruth:
Yes!

Guilt starts with your mind and the intention to sin. That is why we have the word "premeditation" to catch any guilty person even before he commits an offence.

I once told you to go read up "mens rea" and see where and when a person's guilt starts counting.

😲😳 You once told who what 🙄
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StillDtruth:
He specifically stated only Abraham, so I addressed only that.

As for the others, not one of them Sorted God's Mark of "PERFECT'. "Be ye perfect'./Genesis 17:1 says, "Walk before me, [b]and be thou perfect"

And those who scored that Mark were those having one wife. That is, Noah and Job[/b]

And that is why the it is Written "Ye are without excuse". Romans 1:20.

So u are now the judge of patriarchs and servant of God ? Such that only Noah and Job were able to pass your test of righteousness and perfection.,? Lol... Same Noah that got drunk and also committed incest o.....cos Bible said Ham uncover his unclothedness....which could mean Ham sleeping with him, or sleeping with his mother...Noah and Job passed ur test lol..
Don't u sound like a Joke to urself......so David failed, Abraham failed, Jacob failed for having 4 wives I guess lol, Joseph also failed, Moses also failed, to u the greatest prophet and law giver failed....don't u sound dumb and heretic for making that statement of perfection just cos u want to judge their polygamy?...
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U peoples legalistic self righteousness stinks to heaven.... imagine trying to invalidate Hebrew 11 that justified all patriarch including Rahab the prostitutes...lol....And u must be more righteous than them cos u end up wit one non virgin olosho wife...lol...u are a joke

MaxInDHouse:
OP is appealing to CHRISTIANS those who have the assurance of everlasting life.
For your information all servants of God from Abel till John the baptist are yet to get the approval {Matthew 11:11} because they must accept what Jesus taught before they can get approval for everlasting life! John 3:16
Meanwhile they will be resurrected to practice what Jesus taught us within the thousand years of Jesus' reign before their names can be written in the book of life {Revelations 20:15} no man can gain everlasting life without what Jesus taught!

🤣🤣🤣 wait lol, so you know he is "appealing to Christians" and you keep bringing examples from those who don't know "Abrahamic God".


Hmmm, they are yet to be approved 🤔, hmmm, brethren please let's read the Matt 11:11 maybe there awaiting for approval is written there 😁
Matt.11.11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. (KJV)

Okay 🤔🙄, so is that they have not accepted the teachings of Jesus but didn't Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus on the mount of transfiguration 🙀

"before their names can be written in the book of life" 👀

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gohf:
You need to state when polygamy stopped being permitted and who brought a stop to it?

At least incest you are trying to associate with polygamy was clearly no more permitted and put an end to, according to the morals written by Moses which permits polygamy as well.

By the way writing Lot impregnated his daughters is a subtle way of avoiding the fact that his daughters got him drunk and "raped" him. Now not sure how you somehow go off point or dont make any 🤦, but Judah sleeping with a widow isn't incest, if it were then the law encouraging siblings to impregnate their late brother's widows who had no children should be promoting incest as well.

Twisting Matt 7:12 to fit your logic is pathetic 🤣🤣 but I do respect you quoting, Matt.19.4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,.. just that Jesus was speaking concerning divorce and not polygamy nor against it. Infact when God spoke in Genesis about Marriage He spoke to the women and not to men.

Well it's common sense that women can only submit to one lord, as the people submit to only one king and to only one God.

Polyandry been practiced shouldnt be an excuse to misuse scripture and suggest an eye for an eye 😅. And to be frank how should a man submit to two different men, who would she truly obey? Do you understand of purpose of what God said in Genesis and the reference made by Jesus to that beginning?

Anyway, you do know that the person Moses who wrote and the man would the joined to his wife, married a second wife 😏😊😄

You dey mind those half baked Christian who thinks they are more righteous than the patriarchs .....
They read the Bible but put it upside down to accommodate their narrow view of monogamous righteousness...which was never a thing in the whole scriptures.
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StillDtruth:
First, not at the same time for his first wife left on her own and not that he went looking for a 2nd wife to add to her as you greedy people do

Then secondly, he got the permission of God Who saw why his first wife was leaving and unlike everyone else, He saw God directly, "friend to friend" style.

That is why your Catholic church is right in saying you need God to be present to get a divorce.

so basically it is down to God's permission not human ideology, philosophy nor theology

gohf:
😂😂 true Max post was off as it can be like that some times but yours here eh 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

gohf:
You need to state when polygamy stopped being permitted and who brought a stop to it?

This is why i always point to my source of guidance regarding scriptural knowledge: jw.org

I often do this to alert whoever i'm chatting with to know what to expect from Jehovah's Witnesses for instance many often come here saying Jehovah's Witnesses will never agree to give their daughter's hand in marriage to someone who is not a JW neither are we going to approve for our son to marry a female who is not a JW.

I hope you now know that we strictly hold on to the same line of thought among us.

As for polygamy it's a crime in our midst to the extent that you can never ever be one of us of you're a polygamist no one will consider your baptism no matter how long you've been with us. Thousands out there have not been baptized after studying the Bible with us for decades even though many thought they are members of Jehovah's Witnesses because they attends our meetings yet they are not baptized which disqualifies such ones from any privilege among us! 1Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:6

MaxInDHouse:
YES!
It became a sin for whoever wants to get everlasting life through faith in Christ Jesus who told his listeners:

In reply he said: “Have you not read that the one who created them from the beginning made them male and female  and said: ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’? So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has yoked together, let no man put apart.” Matthew 19:4-6

All other forms of marriage is against God's will: polygamy, polyandry, gay, lesbian, bestiality all came after man's fall.

So in the beginning God created one man (Adam) and one woman (Eve) so it's this arrangement we are returning to in Paradise whoever is not satisfied with this arrangement is not fit for everlasting life in Paradise!

Why did God originally form the woman?

Who was Jesus quoting God or Moses, two shall become one flesh?

Did God ever tell David he could take any or another woman and not his "neighbor's" wife?

Did God ever punish anyone for having more than one wife?

Simple questions if you actually know what is written in the scriptures

gohf:
They have not accepted the teachings of Jesus but didn't Moses and Elijah appear to Jesus on the mount of transfiguration.

Please expatiate on what Jesus said at Matthew 11:11 because there is a point Jesus made there that needed to be cleared:

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women (from righteous Abel) there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom (someone who is considered smallest) of the heavens is greater than he is"

gohf:
so in simple terms you are saying freespirited will be guilty even without evidence?

Well freespirited you would have to get a good advocate because this one is ready to send you to hell o

Baba make we thank God say God no be man o
Naso this man for send Daddy GO of one wife and 5 secret girlfriend to Heaven....while sending me that legally married two virgin without any secret girlfriend to hell....

gohf:
Why did God originally form the woman?

Who was Jesus quoting God or Moses, two shall become one flesh?

Did God ever tell David he could take any or another woman and not his "neighbor's" wife?

Did God ever punish anyone for having more than one wife?

Simple questions if you actually know what is written in the scriptures

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They will never answer this...it doesn't fit into their bias..Let me add more
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Did God ever say thou shall not sleep with your father's wife? Leviticus 18 v 8
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Did Paul ever go angry cos a Christian were sleeping with their father's wife? Why was he angry for the fornication and not condemn their father for having another wife

MaxInDHouse:
This is why i always point to my source of guidance regarding scriptural knowledge: jw.org

I often do this to alert whoever i'm chatting with to know what to expect from Jehovah's Witnesses for instance many often come here saying Jehovah's Witnesses will never agree to give their daughter's hand in marriage to someone who is not a JW neither are we going to approve for our son to marry a female who is not a JW.

I hope you now know that we strictly hold on to the same line of thought among us.

As for polygamy it's a crime in our midst to the extent that you can never ever be one of us of you're a polygamist no one will consider your baptism no matter how long you've been with us. Thousands out there have not been baptized after studying the Bible with us for decades even though many thought they are members of Jehovah's Witnesses because they attends our meetings yet they are not baptized which disqualifies such ones from any privilege among us! 1Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:6

well I guess a point to you for sticking with jws doctrine but that doesn't make you any different from those who follow their various pastor's doctrines. Well your faithfulness and commitment should be commended 👏

gohf:
1. Why did God originally form the woman?

2. Who was Jesus quoting God or Moses, two shall become one flesh?

3. Did God ever tell David he could take any or another woman and not his "neighbor's" wife?

4. Did God ever punish anyone for having more than one wife?

Simple questions if you actually know what is written in the scriptures

1. To complement the man so that both can live forever as lovebirds.

2. Moses has not even been born when God made that statement in Eden so Jesus quoted God with whom he was in the beginning.

3. David practiced what other men of his time do but in God's law he warned kings against marrying multiple wives. Deuteronomy 17:15-16

4. No God gave them freewill to experience things for themselves was given.

MaxInDHouse:
Please expatiate on what Jesus said at Matthew 11:11 because there is a point Jesus made there that needed to be cleared:

"Truly I say to you, among those born of women (from righteous Abel) there has not been raised up anyone greater than John the Baptist, but a lesser person in the Kingdom (someone who is considered smallest) of the heavens is greater than he is"

Simple, those born of women are carnally born
While those in the kingdom of God are all born of the Spirit.

But we can also dig deeper into what Jesus was actually teaching in Matthew 11 that brought about that statement in verse 11 😃