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Counterigbolies:



Y did u Igbos kill leaders of other tribes n leave yours?

Make I ask Adewale Ademoyega that did the killing.

DenreleDave:
our igbo brothers and sisters... no need to keep lying about it.. We know history and trying to change it b4 our eyes is not accepted. Ojukwu had no power to release a federal prisoner and more importantly, a yoruba man.. Ojukwu and azikwe if they had their way, they would even prefer to keee awolowo because he is the yoruba they hate so much and he denied azikwe gaining any power in the west...

They said it was not an igbo coup, they killed other tribes and left their own alive. They later lied dt it was to free Awolowo, they knew awo is dead and cant defend this lie against him...

We have 3 region, a region organized it people and killed thier leaders and still had the impetus to lie that it was to save one of the victim region leader. What impetus!!!!!!

Aftter the coup, an igbo man became the head of state and even promoted the coup plotters. yet they say it was not an ethnic thing.

The war was not needed but our brothers should learn to accept their wrong and move on..


Ojukwu killed many innocent Niger delta and edo people but these people are not crying.. they moved on....

So Ojukwu lied he released him while it was gowon that did it,,, we know this b4, ojukwu people just wana turn it around



YOU WANTED BIAFRA AND U LEFT THE EAST REGION TO PROCEED TO WEST REGION AND YOU WANT US TO BELIEVE YOU DONT HAVE AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE TO CONTROL THE WEST.

I AM SURE AZIKWE KNEW ABOUT THE WAR AND PLANNED IT WITH OJUKWU... AZIKWE HAS ALWAYS BEEN ENVIOUS OF THE WEST

Even your kinsman wrote the same thing IBB wrote but to you they are all lying to protect the Igbos they hate so much 😆😁

beerfraud:
How many times will this make front page

Truth is very painful to you.
Light will always overtake darkness.
Sorry for pain.

Earthquakes:
Even your kinsman wrote the same thing IBB wrote but to you they are all lying to protect the Igbos they hate so much 😆😁

like or not

History recorded it as an igbo coup.. It is forever

IBB doesn't want to take the truth to the grave.

May God grant him a peaceful departure when it's time,for this truth.

This is bringing back the old wounds and I see it coming up during the election.
Without a sincere apology from the Igbo to Non-Igbo Nigerians, this book may remind Northerners and Non- Igbo Nigerians of the Igbo coup plotters who tragically killed all the Non-Igbo leaders and spared their own.

Gowon chose rather to hv millions of Biafrans killed than to protect a few thousands both instances under his watch!

Up to this moment the blood of those children & women killed in the North, in Biafra & in Nigeria, & starved to death by Awolowo, Gowon & many others, STILL CRY FOR JUSTICE & DIVINE VENGEANCE!

Will Nigeria ever recover? We pretty much doubt that!

DenreleDave:
WETIN CONCERN OJUKWU... WHO SENT HIM?

HE SHOULD HAVE MAINTAINED THE EASTERN REGION INSTEAD OF PROCEEDING TO LAGOS

not sure I remember tagging u to any post Mr bigot....just shut up n move aside

IyfeNamikaze:
Tribalism is a severe sickness, you claim Igbo hates Yoruba too much yet Ojukwu stood up for Brig. Ogundipe as the next in line to be the head of state and rejected Gowon.

And please where did Ojukwu say that he released Awọ?

How can he stand up for Ogundipe? Did Ogundipe organize the coup? Why should he benefit from it?

A coup is a criminal enterprise
A military Head of State is a constitutional abnormality
It comes about by a coup


It is not a military posting so there is nothing like NEXT IN LINE

The successful coupists are the next in line even if it is a captain

So stop these Ibo lies and self deception

In 1983 Shagari was overthrown.
The Chief of Army Staff, Wushishi was Buhari's senior. He was booted out and Buhari became head of State

Many of Buhari's senior remained and served under him

e.g Domkat Bali

After Buhari was overthrown
Bali remained as Minsiter of Defence under Babangida for a while

Racoon:
Even Wole Soyinka and some radicals @ UniLag defended these putschists that they wrote a letter of appeal to General Gowon on their behalf.

The toga of the Igbo coup was simply because that coup failed. Meanwhile let Wole Soyinka say his mind now too, though a coup is still an illegality.

The Man Died by Wole Soyinka also talked about what led to the pogrom and the civil war extensively. An account of the whole saga by a Yoruba man. Those officers that took part in the 1966 January 15th coup were revolutionaries and were not bound by ethnic bigotry. They wanted to hand over the power to Awolowo.

Really?

Nobody can deny that Igbos were massacred prior to the war; it's well documented in local and foreign media.
First, Gowon claimed ignorance of the state sponsored killings as Igbo and Igbo-looking innocent civilians were slaughtered by what now appears like a well coordinated attacks. It was also known that Britain helped and encouraged these killings.
My question is, of the 3 million killed, how many of these killers did Gowon's government arrest prosecute and punish?

aribisala0:
How can he stand up for Ogundipe? Did Ogundipe organize the coup? Why should he benefit from it?

A coup is a criminal enterprise
A military Head of State is a constitutional abnormality
It comes about by a coup


It is not a military posting so there is nothing like NEXT IN LINE

The successful coupists are the next in line even if it is a captain

So stop these Ibo lies and self deception

In 1983 Shagari was overthrown.
The Chief of Army Staff, Wushishi was Buhari's senior. He was booted out and Buhari became head of State

Many of Buhari's senior remained and served under him

e.g Domkat Bali

After Buhari was overthrown
Bali remained as Minsiter of Defence under Babangida for a while

Fake military historian, the circumstances were quite different in 1966.
First, Gowon claimed ignorance of who's behind the 2nd coup. Next, he claimed that he didn't know that Ironsi had been killed, infact he said that he didn't know the whereabout of his boss, Ironsi. That was why Ojukwu told him to notify the second in command.

Babangida is a buffoon, saying things that will further deteriorate future peace and stability. If not for Plateau State I doubt if this Nigeria would have been a reality.

ibechris:
Igbo tribe is the only tribe that would fight his blood brother because of a visitor in their midst.

I have done it and I know what my people can do for a visitor to be considered welcome around them.

Ask any guy serving in the Eastern Nigeria.

They are respected,taken care of especially if u are from other tribe.

See Who Ojukwu fought for...he ran away like a fool.

Same way Abiola ran away to London thinking another igbo man would fight for him then...no person tell am to come back and fight for himself.

Sir Odumegwu Ojukwu may ur soul rest in peace.

I quoted you earlier

saintkel:
not sure I remember tagging u to any post Mr bigot....just shut up n move aside

Bigot calling another one bigot

eagleu:
Fake military historian, the circumstances were quite different in 1966.
First, Gowon claimed ignorance of who's behind the 2nd coup. Next, he claimed that he didn't know that Ironsi had been killed, infact he said that he didn't know the whereabout of his boss, Ironsi. That was why Ojukwu told him to notify the second in command.

All this nonsense is irrrelevant

The fact is there was a coup.

Who said or did what is of no consequence

Why did Ironsi accept to become Head of state in the First place ? Was he second in command

Since it was not an Ibo coup why not let the civilians sort it out?

There was no basis for him to become Head of State in the first place . That is the Genesis of our woes. If we accept that it was not an Ibo coup and that the coup had failed . Is Ironsi becoming Head of state the next logical step?

Ojukwu refused to accept that the coup was successful and was prepared to use force . He fought and lost terribly

frog12:
this man is not telling us anything new. we said it already, Gowon is a selfish man that should have stand aside for brigadier ogundipe

Why did Ironsi accept to become Head of state in the First place ? Was he second in command

Since it was not an Ibo coup why not let the civilians sort it out?

There was no basis for him to become Head of State in the first place . That is the Genesis of our woes. If we accept that it was not an Ibo coup and that the coup had failed . Is Ironsi becoming Head of state the next logical step?

aribisala0:
All this nonsense is irrrelevant

The fact is there was a coup.

Who said or did what is of no consequence

Why did Ironsi accept to become Head of state in the First place ? Was he second in command

Since it was not an Ibo coup why not let the civilians sort it out?

There was no basis for him to become Head of State in the first place . That is the Genesis of our woes. If we accept that it was not an Ibo coup and that the coup had failed . Is Ironsi becoming Head of state the next logical step?

Ojukwu refused to accept that the coup was successful and was prepared to use force . He fought and lost terribly

Ojukwu fough to stop the coup, rescuing the emir of Kano just on time
Ironsi was the most senior military officer in the nation at that time, and he made sure that the coup plotters were arrested and locked up. It was the first coup and many mistakes were made- no doubt.
Your focus on "Igbo" made you and your people forget that Ironsi became head of state as a matter of necessity.
When Ironsi "disappeared" Ojukwu asked for the next in seniority. Why's that so hard to understand? Well, take off your tribal goggles for a minute, and try to reason clearly.

naijaking1:
Ojukwu fough to stop the coup, rescuing the emir of Kano just on time
Ironsi was the most senior military officer in the nation at that time, and he made sure that the coup plotters were arrested and locked up. It was the first coup and many mistakes were made- no doubt.
Your focus on "Igbo" made you and your people forget that Ironsi became head of state as a matter of necessity.
When Ironsi "disappeared" Ojukwu asked for the next in seniority. Why's that so hard to understand? Well, take off your tribal goggles for a minute, and try to reason clearly.

Was Ironsi becoming Head of State the next thing?
if it was not an Ibo plan.

The Correct thing was to do his security work and let the Parliament choose a New leader

It was a parliamentary system not a presidential system so

There was absolutely no need for Ironsi to take over

Most of the Legislators were still alive

OMEGA009:
Enough of this. Let’s get back to the real issues at hand. How USAID allegedly sponsored terrorism in Nigeria, How Dangote can willingly drop the price of PMS at the drop of a hat without taking a loss. Important pressing issues, not issues of yesteryears. Old guards are still trying to get us to fight over scraps while they install their children and cronies to continue the cycle.

If you don't set the foundation of yesterday straight,the future will still forever remain bleaked.
There can be no today or tomorrow without yesterday.
It's yesterday that birthed today.
So trying to identify the roots of a problem and killing it,is more advisable than fighting the surface of the problem.
because the roots will keep on germinating evil.
So leaving the main issues like the one under discourse here to discuss superficial matter of today like Dangote and his fuel price and USAID as you recommended is amateurish.

The main problem of this country today is the amalgamation of this country by the British Colonialist in 1914 and the 1966 coup/counter-coup/civil war.
Nothing more, nothing less.
So until we the current youths of this generation finds total closure to those events,we, and even our children will still be facing what we are facing now if not worse as a nation-state.

Katakata10:
That 3M suyalization no be small thing but how come they claimed they were starved to death when surplus suya was available for cannïbal*sm?

Where were those bodies buried? Inside pot of course

That’s what you get when you think you are smart but those animals are still not ready to learn.

They still Iove to be starved to death the second time.

Only animals do not learn from their mistakes

ode ,people like u have no brain, you are just an empty score. People like u always leave the main story to tackle pple of igbo ethic group because of hate. Look around u,even after the progrom are u pple better than them...check very well.

Eriokanmi:
Gowon is one of the cowards, insincere and weakest military leaders ever known. OBJ made same revelation. It appears IBB no wan carry the truth commot as his time ticks, which was why he spilled the beans. The foundation of this nation really had issues but the successive generations could have corrected it, if not for ethnic bigotry. It all started from the north and later found its way to the south due to the perceived civil war massacre as witnessed by those who lived in that era. I had an igbo colleague in those days, who was well advanced in age. He's in his 60s now. He once narrated the unfortunate war to me as as experienced as a child and how he escaped those who captured him and wanted to send him to war to carry gun despite his age. I felt so emotional. My maternal uncle from ekiti also died in the civil war. He was my mum's immediate younger brother and the only son of my grandma.

Sadly, those generation of igbos to whom the story was narrated didn't manage the situation well. Rather than move on, they instigated rebellion against other tribes by accusing them of genocide and hate for the igbos. Yorubas and hausas also suffered severe casualties. All our forefathers were guilty and selfish. They caused the current wahala majorly. I've read several books on the civil war and the last I read was the Why We Struck. The intention of the war was to release Pa Awo and fast track the transition into civil rule by handing over power to him but baba made a you-turn by hobnobbing with gowon and giving them harsh tactics against the igbos, which included cutting off food supplies to them. Gowon also made his promise to him. Till his death, Pa Awo never ruled Nigeria.

I can never be a tribalist except I don't want this country to move forward. Pa Awo was to be killed alongside others but was released . The briefing containing the future of Nigeria was handed over to him but he went to Gowon's camp instead and the war rather raged on and took another turn. The Aburi Accord was also jettisoned, despite Gowon's promise to keep it. All our leaders still alive must apologise to all of us for ruining this great union called Nigeria and rendering this generation refugees at home and homeless abroad, struggling for survival.

The primordial problem is still evident today and that's why any tribe that produces president will populate his government with his tribes people. Naso e be from foundation. That's why I won't blame Tinubu wholly on what's happening in government today on his choice of political appointees. I only blame him for not being a true democrat by following his predecessors character. He should have acted differently because these were the perceived injustices he fought for, as a political activist back in the days.

Who knows, whenever it gets to the igbo's turn, they'd fill the government with their people too, time will tell. I think if we truly split and bear our father's names, it's better for us all else, the trend will only continue except our generation is proven wrong by whoever succeeds tinubu. Only obj ruled fairly in Nigeria, both as military and as civilian. I remember when some of our elders accused him of not being fair to yorubas and he said he's not yoruba president but Nigeria's president.

The Igboman I know will fill his government with competent people that deserve their position through merit and result oriented,if it comes to finance and management the igboman will jettison an incompetent brother for anybody that can deliver

gidgiddy:
So you could not refute anything here except who was senior between Gowon and Ojukwu? For your information, even though Gowon was commissioned before Ojukwu, Ojukwu's commission date was backdated that he got seniority over Gowon

https://www.dawodu.com/omoigui39.htm

Una too dey lie. lie dey una DNA

In your foolish bid to make Ojukwu senior, you ended disgracing yourself and nailing your own coffin with your own hands. You posted the evidence to nail you by yourself.

Go back and read what you posted and read slowly this time around and and you will find out that they were promoted same day. That will make them equal and Gowon's date of entry will now make him superior to Ojukwu.

ibechris:
Igbo tribe is the only tribe that would fight his blood brother because of a visitor in their midst.

I have done it and I know what my people can do for a visitor to be considered welcome around them.

Ask any guy serving in the Eastern Nigeria.

They are respected,taken care of especially if u are from other tribe.

See Who Ojukwu fought for...he ran away like a fool.

Same way Abiola ran away to London thinking another igbo man would fight for him then...no person tell am to come back and fight for himself.

Sir Odumegwu Ojukwu may ur soul rest in peace.

I understand, no problem. Thanks

DenreleDave:
ok.. yes they did.. what else happened

why did ur tribe people lied dt the coup was for awo when it was a big lie,, it was for ironsi to become head of state

One of the senseless, serpentine Yorubas.

okoroemeka:
The Igboman I know will fill his government with competent people that deserve their position through merit and result oriented,if it comes to finance and management the igboman will jettison an incompetent brother for anybody that can deliver

I love this

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alphaconde:
And Gowon was praising this guy in his forward on that useless book

Thank you for pointing this out. I was shocked when I read General Gowon's forward on the book.
It might be as a way of indirectly thanking Babangida for restoring his rank and retirement which he lost when he got grossly
implicated in the Dimka coup plot that killed General Murtala Mohammed.

Another interesting point is that Babangida said the January 1966 coup was not an Igbo coup. And Lt. Gen. Danjuma was sitting there
at the book lunch!
In his book: "Danjuma, The Making of A General", published in 1979, Danjuma confirmed that he led the group of soldiers who trailed Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi from Lagos via Nyagao Barracks in Abeokuta to Ibadan. He briefly narrated what transpired in Ibadan, leading to the death of Lt. Col. Fajuyi before they gained access to the Commander In Chief, Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi and arrested him. If the Jan. 1966 coup was not perceived as an Igbo coup, why were the Northern Officers started to kill their Igbo counterparts in July 1966?
The problem in Nigeria is that leaders in Nigerian politics don't think of the future effects of their behavior, and when the future comes and slap them in the face with their behavior, they start to lie!

DenreleDave:
then stop crying and let the past go

why are u guys still down with inferiority complex and victim claiming when in fact , u r the aggressor.

cant igbo move on since all is good now, why still crying and trying to change history. why not accept responsibility for once

It is not crying, the war has become part of our history, it is now part of us as a people. Promises that we're made at the end of the war were neglected the three R's were not entirely implemented. We as a people have thrived despite the obstacles, and we must always air our grievances because it is democratic and sensible to do so.

FreeStuffsNG:
IBB has written his own denial but we owe posterity to keep the facts for posterity.


Igbo leaders were spared , no single Igbo leader was touched and the primary beneficiary of these tragic and callous murders was Late Gen. Aguiyi Ironsi, also a Nigerian of Igbo extraction who went further to reward his Igbo kith and kin military coup plotters with promotion while non- Igbo Nigerians were grieving and mourning the violent murder of their leaders by the Igbo coup plotters across the nation.
This is no coincidence. The coup was pre-planned and viciously executed to kill the leaders of other regions, decimate and cheat other Nigerians by the Igbo military officers. An obscene and unpatriotic I Before Others(IBO) mentality was perpetuated by the Igbo coup plotters against Non- Igbo Nigerians.

These are the proofs that made people regard the coup as Igbo coup. You can't spin and revise the history. Apologize to the Non- Igbo Nigerians you murdered their leaders violently in the unfortunate coup.

No fair-minded Igbo will be happy if it is the other way. If you are Igbo, just put yourself in the place of Non-Igbo Nigerians whose leaders were violently murdered in their prime by these Igbo military officers. Awful, right?

IBB wrote:

"It was heinously callous for Nzeogwu to have murdered Sir Ahmadu Bello and his wife, Hafsatu, because not only were they eminently adored by many but also because they were said not to have put up a fight.

How does this quote relates to why Gowon failed to protect the Igbos in different parts of the country?
The post is explaining chapter ABC why you are quoting chapter XYZ!

Blackman101:
Gowon has his book over 20 years ago now,

Title please!

saintkel:
hatred but u didnt see d part Ojukwu wanted another Yoruba man lead

Some one looking from Niger republic, how can he see the part you are pointing out!