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AbuTwins:
✓ Never mind! We understand the context of the Qur'an than you. Saying whatever we say doesn't affect the Qur'an as Allah says in the same Qur'an that those earlier scriptures have been corrupted!

I sincerely doubt that since the very foundation of the Quran is based on ideas taken out of context from the book that is the Bible. For example, the so-called Angel Jubril, who Mohammed claims he got the Quran from, is supposedly the same character referred to as Angel Gabriel from the Bible— the only book where Gabriel is written of—is it not? That invariably means that whatever ideas you have of the Bible flow through to impact also your Quran, which lifts several ideas—out-of-context, of course —out of it.

gohf:
the bible contains that which is true and that which is "false" and "contradictory" because men can make mistakes or intentionally manipulate and lie about certain things. But apart from that, much of it has been kept intact and recorded for the future.

Contradictions can be due to misunderstanding what is actually written in the original Hebrew text and mistakenly translated or taught to be an error. There are some quotes from the NTs that isn't directly as it is in the OT.

But the one true consistent thing in the Bible is God said and His intent, from beginning to the end of it. That's asides the recorded speeches of men and the like.

I agree that there are some things that are not true in the Bible like some of the sayings of Jobs friends which God later tells them to repent from. Showing that the purpose of God is true and consistent revealing who He is and what He is going to do and what He expects.

Yes, it is true that not every word in the Bible is God’s Word. But there are no contradictions in its messages.

AbuTwins:
Never mind! We understand the context of the Qur'an than you. Saying whatever we say doesn't affect the Qur'an as Allah says in the same Qur'an that those earlier scriptures have been corrupted!

Even from your Quran it's more of interpretational errors rather than textual🤔 even at that you are still doomed!!!

Why then will he allude to something that is/was corrupt? 🤨
Was he high when he sent Jibril to deliver the message to Muhammad 🥲?

Showing Allah is an idiot🤧!!!

Truthseeker10:
So what translation has the statement that you made below?

"Doesn't the bible record Ahaziah being both 22 and 42 years old?"

Which is correct, is it 22 years old or 42 years old?

Lol, you are not tired of embarrassing yourself. I thought you said that you your point, what point have you made?
Is your point that the bible is true or false? Does the bible contain contradictions or not? You really have not made any point and you can't because you don't know what you are saying. You are confused.

You have had 3 days to make a point. Even if you are given 6 months, you will still be floating like plastic on the sea.

Ken4Christ:
The NWT rendered John 1:1 different from every other translation. Every other translation says 'and the Word was God. But the NWT says. 'and the Word was a god, as in small letter 'g'. They deny the deity of Christ which every other translation affirms.

They also deny the existence of literal hell. And so many other things time would not permit me to mention here.

for me o, both translations of the John1:1 are wrong, one is trying to show that the word is the same God and the other is trying to show the word is another God, whereas that is neither the intent of John nor what he wrote as one reads more of what John writes.

Ken4Christ:
Yes, it is true that not every word in the Bible is God’s Word. But there are no contradictions in its messages.

yes there are no contradiction to God's original message but phrases which are intepretated in ways that bring about contradictions and diversion from God's word

gohf:
yes there are no contradiction to God's original message but phrases which are intepretated in ways that bring about contradictions and diversion from God's word

To me, the question goes beyond whether the bible has errors or contradictions But if the bible is credible.
First the bible is not the Word of God, rather it contains the word of God.

It also contains genealogy, history, quotations from men, poetry (Songs of Solomon) and a lot more.

Now do the assumed errors or contradictions makes the bible not to be credible?
No.

The bible is not just one book, it's not just one man's work. It's a collection of writing over thousands of years.

Today, there is no similar historic collection. Imagine dozens of writers, over thousands of years and yet just a few assumed errors. It's a miracle. We have nothing close to that.

Will a few mistakes from men discredit such a great work? It will be foolish and not academy to do so. Would we lose all the great history, poetry, genealogy, teachings, prophecies, unique gospel because of a few assumed errors?

If you will throw away 24 carat gold because it has 1% impurity or stop drinking water because you are unavailable to get it to 100% purity then you should discard your Bible.

So Mr Truthseeker10 I hope this clears everything. If you are a truth seeker and not one looking for controversy, this should answer all your questions.
In a court of law, will a record of dozens of people written over a 4000 year period with less than 5% errors be admitted as serious evidence?
The answer is yes. It will be admitted 100% of the time.

AbuTwins:
Never mind! We understand the context of the Qur'an than you. Saying whatever we say doesn't affect the Qur'an as Allah says in the same Qur'an that those earlier scriptures have been corrupted!

We would always make this a battle between Christianity and Islam.
Anyway, I have a short video below that looks into the Quran. I am not a Muslim so I want to hear and understand your views here.

Personal, I don't agree with everything in the video so let's only discuss the controversial teachings from the Quran and leave the rest alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mstfjWfWF2Y?si=BkqS-ZtON9c4WFiq

tctrills:
We would always make this a battle between Christianity and Islam.
Anyway, I have a short video below that looks into the Quran. I am not a Muslim so I want to hear and understand your views here.

Personal, I don't agree with everything in the video so let's only discuss the controversial teachings from the Quran and leave the rest alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mstfjWfWF2Y?si=BkqS-ZtON9c4WFiq

Na me go dey sieve video for you?

Truthseeker10:
Tctrills have made the assertions that the bible has "few contradictions" but still argues that the bible is true and not false. Is he correct?
Please I need the house opinion on such viewpoint whether you believe in the bible or not.

tctrills
StillDtruth
Dtruthspeaker
Lordreed
Emusan
Immaculatesense
Jaephoenix
Janosky
MaxInDHouse
Steep
Aemmyjah
AbuTwins
doffman
cornelboy
Westerhoffe
Everyday247
gohf
Kobojunkie
Ken4Christ

Different people have made different claims about the Bible including some people you tagged here.

But to me, the Bible has no contradiction!

A JWs once said The Apostle made mistake for saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS because that makes Jesus to be God.

Truthseeker10:
You need sleep

Sleep keh!

After the katakata you throw all of them into.

Ọmọ the next trouble they will start now is if you ask them whether there is a translation they can trust.

How can the very book that supposed to unite them as one be contradictory?

Well they never believe Jesus' word that the Bible can help them to unite as one {John 17:20-23} so they can't understand how stupid this sounds.

No wonder only Jehovah's Witnesses are united because they believe God's word (Complete Bible) is alive {Hebrew 4:12} and can help all true believers to unite as one! John 17:17

MaxInDHouse:
Sleep keh!

After the katakata you throw all of them into.

Ọmọ the next trouble they will start now is if you ask them whether there is a translation they can trust.

How can the very book that supposed to unite them as one be contradictory?

Well they never believe Jesus' word that the Bible can help them to unite as one {John 17:20-23} so they can't understand how stupid this sounds.

No wonder only Jehovah's Witnesses are united because they believe God's word (Complete Bible) is alive {Hebrew 4:12} and can help all true believers to unite as one! John 17:17

See this hypocrite!

We're you not here when one of your deluded brother claimed The Apostle made mistake for saying Jesus knows ALL THINGS

Besides, see your own statement about the book BIBLE in the screenshot below.

You claimed JWs don't called it BIBLE but in another breath you always use the word BIBLE.

What is the difference between you and another person who claimed Bible is corrupt or contradicted?

AbuTwins:
Na me go dey sieve video for you?

I see you don't want to go there. It's your choice. Lol

Yawa don gas!

Kobojunkie:
At what point in history were the books in your bible ever not corrupted, and with a lot of these, what do you consider fabrications? Let's start there!

Additionally, given that you consider it currently contaminated and corrupted, why bother reading anything from it?

Dey play 🤣

If we did not read it , how we will know it is full of contradictions and corruptions .

Just ask this man below :

doffman:
✓ Dey play 🤣
If we did not read it , how we will know it is full of contradictions and corruptions .
Just ask this man below :

At what point in history did the books become corrupted?

The message which you conveniently translated as "hate your family..." Is all included in the Book of Micah which came several centuries before the Gospels were written. So, merely posting random texts you don't understand is not evidence enough for your claims..

You claim the book is a book of bondage when the context of the book is said to only apply as far as the bloodline of the man named Jacob and only to those among them who would in fact submit to the God of Israel, the God of their ancestors?

Kobojunkie:
At what point in history did the books become corrupted?

The message which you conveniently translated as "hate your family..." Is all included in the Book of Micah which came several centuries before the Gospels were written. So, merely posting random texts you don't understand is not evidence enough for your claims..

You claim the book is a book of bondage when the context of the book is said to only apply as far as the bloodline of the man named Jacob and only to those among them who would in fact submit to the God of Israel, the God of their ancestors?

I will only give you one example to think about it :

Ezekiel 23:19-20

19 - Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt.

20 -There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.

If your little daughter or son read that in your Bible , how will you feel?

Your eyes go clear one day .

One day you will tear your Bible and have peace 🤣

doffman:
✓ I will only give you one example to think about it :
Ezekiel 23:19-20
19 - Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt.
20 -There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
If your little daughter or son read that in your Bible , how will you feel? Your eyes go clear one day .
One day you will tear your Bible and have peace 🤣

Are you attempting to have us believe that the many other books, poems and songs your children have read in school, some of them written from hundreds and maybe also thousands of years before, are instead filled with writings that are devoid of suggestive language? I am having a tough time understanding your particular grouse with the book. It seems to me that your issues come from a point of literary illiteracy than anything else.

Emusan:
Different people have made different claims about the Bible including some people you tagged here.

But to me, the Bible has no contradiction!

A JWs once said The Apostle made mistake for saying Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS because that makes Jesus to be God.

tctrills, do you agree with the statement in bold?

tctrills:
To me, the question goes beyond whether the bible has errors or contradictions But if the bible is credible.
First the bible is not the Word of God, rather it contains the word of God.

It also contains genealogy, history, quotations from men, poetry (Songs of Solomon) and a lot more.

Now do the assumed errors or contradictions makes the bible not to be credible?
No.

The bible is not just one book, it's not just one man's work. It's a collection of writing over thousands of years.

Today, there is no similar historic collection. Imagine dozens of writers, over thousands of years and yet just a few assumed errors. It's a miracle. We have nothing close to that.

Will a few mistakes from men discredit such a great work? It will be foolish and not academy to do so. Would we lose all the great history, poetry, genealogy, teachings, prophecies, unique gospel because of a few assumed errors?

If you will throw away 24 carat gold because it has 1% impurity or stop drinking water because you are unavailable to get it to 100% purity then you should discard your Bible.

So Mr Truthseeker10 I hope this clears everything. If you are a truth seeker and not one looking for controversy, this should answer all your questions.
In a court of law, will a record of dozens of people written over a 4000 year period with less than 5% errors be admitted as serious evidence?
The answer is yes. It will be admitted 100% of the time.

Kindly list out the "few contradictions" of the bible here let's see whether you are correct.

Truthseeker10:
Kindly list out the "few contradictions" of the bible here let's see whether you are correct.

Fool, we did that 3 days ago. Make your point if you have any.

tctrills:
Fool, we did that 3 days ago. Make your point if you have any.

🤣🤣🤣Kindly bring it here.

Truthseeker10:
tctrills, do you agree with the statement in bold?

You know where I stand and i have already answered that severely. It's your turn to make your stand.
With all the information I and others have provided you, where do you stand.

tctrills:
You know where I stand and i have already answered that severely. It's your turn to make your stand.
With all the information I and others have provided you, where do you stand.

Kindly tell Mr Emusan the contradictions that you've found in the bible.

Truthseeker10:
🤣🤣🤣Kindly bring it here.

Why? I have allowed you to bring it here. Now what is your point. You have been on this for the entire week without achieving anything.
It's your time to answer, dies the bible have contradictions?

Truthseeker10:
Kindly tell Mr Emusan the contradictions that you've found in the bible.

Mr Emusan is not asking?
And since you want to tell him, can you tell him what I told you please.
Back to you, are there any contradictions in the bible?

tctrills:
Mr Emusan is not asking?
And since you want to tell him, can you tell him what I told you please.
Back to you, are there any contradictions in the bible?

You can say it yourself

tctrills:
Why? I have allowed you to bring it here. Now what is your point. You have been on this for the entire week without achieving anything.
It's your time to answer, dies the bible have contradictions?

Kindly bring the contradictions here

Truthseeker10:
You can say it yourself

But I have you to do so and no one else is asking so why would I be that stupid. You on the other hand, has never told me if the bible is contradictory or not. This is your chance. I answered all your questions for 3 days in a roll. You began a new thread because of my answers now it's your turn.
Talk nah?

tctrills:
But I have you to do so and no one else is asking so why would I be that stupid. You on the other hand, has never told me if the bible is contradictory or not. This is your chance. I answered all your questions for 3 days in a roll. You began a new thread because of my answers now it's your turn.
Talk nah?

Bring the contradictions here

Truthseeker10:
Kindly bring the contradictions here

No need to repeat myself. Now are you going to tell the world if the bible had contradictions or will you continue to show that you are here as an element of confusion with nothing to contribute?

Truthseeker10:
Bring the contradictions here

Baba when you begin to repeat yourself, it shows you are scared to talk. Baba does the bible have contradictions or not. Stop being scared, you created this thread.