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Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 9:56am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
God is not a person. It is the totality of existence....we are part of It/him/ she..and it/he/she is part of us....
Comprende?
You have just said that he doesn't exist as an entity. Your God is the Universe itself just as some people's God is the sun!

No difference!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:56am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
In other words, he doesn't exist as an entity!
Olodo?
It is the totality of existence...

We are part of existence, so we are part of it..and it is part of us....
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:57am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
You have just said that he doesn't exist as an entity. Your God is the Universe itself just as some people's God is the sun!

No difference!
You are missing everything...

Try and understand before you start typing.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 9:58am On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
If everything in the universe is God, Why was God not in the earthquake wind and fire?
It was a message for ELijah... I have explained the message for you too....

The letter killeth, you know
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:00am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
You have just said that he doesn't exist as an entity. Your God is the Universe itself just as some people's God is the sun!

No difference!
God is everything and everywhere...he can't exist as one thing...

Use your medulla oblongata next time
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:01am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
It was a message for ELijah... I have explained the message for you too....

The letter killeth, you know
You claim your God is everything in the universe, Why was God not in the earthquake wind and fire?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:03am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
You are missing everything...

Try and understand before you start typing.
I am not missing anything sir.

Just as some people's God is the sun, you have expanded the scope of your God to EVERYTHING consisting in the Universe.

So, for you, your God is EVERYTHING seen and unseen and thus he isn't an entity

You are a Pantheistic or at best practice Stoicism or Hermeticism
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:04am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
Olodo?
It is the totality of existence...

We are part of existence, so we are part of it..and it is part of us....
Entity!
That is the keyword.
Your God doesn't exist as an entity!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:06am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
Entity!
That is the keyword.
Your God doesn't exist as an entity!
Do you understand the meaning of existence?

Can you put it in a box?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:07am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
I am not missing anything sir.

Just as some people's God is the sun, you have expanded the scope of your God to EVERYTHING consisting in the Universe.

So, for you, your God is EVERYTHING seen and unseen and thus he isn't an entity

You are a Pantheistic or at best practice Stoicism or Hermeticism
4/5
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:08am On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
You claim your God is everything in the universe, Why was God not in the earthquake wind and fire?
He was....he did not want to communicate that way to Elijah.

Where was the small voice coming from?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:11am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
He was....he did not want to communicate that way to Elijah.

Where was the small voice coming from?
Are you saying that the verse was lying when it says that God was not in the wind earthquake and fire?

Tell us where the voice was coming from.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:12am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
God is everything and everywhere...he can't exist as one thing...

Use your medulla oblongata next time
We are saying the same thing.
Instead of having your God as the sun moon, your God consist of everything including all atoms in the universe.

I get it. You just widened the scope of your God!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:13am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
Entity!
That is the keyword.
Your God doesn't exist as an entity!
If you have watched "kung fu panda 4" you will understand what I am saying.
When po was in a dilemma and needed answers to some certain issues he was facing..

Master Shifu said

"Talk to the universe"..

If it was a Nollywood movie. It would have been

"Talk to God".....
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:15am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
Do you understand the meaning of existence?

Can you put it in a box?
An existence can be real or virtual isn't it?

The keyword again is ENTITY meaning SOMEONE or IDENTITY

This your God cannot have a WILL nor EMOTION nor INTELLECT because he is not an ENTITY.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:20am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
If you have watched "kung fu panda 4" you will understand what I am saying.
When po was in a dilemma and needed answers to some certain issues he was facing..

Master Shifu said

"Talk to the universe"..

If it was a Nollywood movie. It would have been

"Talk to God".....
Is the Universe a PERSON?
Is the Universe an ENTITY?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:21am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
We are saying the same thing.
Instead of having your God as the sun moon, your God consist of everything including all atoms in the universe.

I get it. You just widened the scope of your God!
Those are aspect of God. Just like you Christians choose to approach God through a man that died 2000+ years with zero evidence that he existed, some choose to approach God through the sun and moon. But God warned the Jews

Do not make the image 1 or likeness 2 of anything in the heavens(moon, stars, sun and planets) on earth (man, animals, trees, rivers etc) or under that waters below the earth(algae etc). Do not bow down to them or serve them...
The Roman who did not have any convenant with God, created a God in the image and likeness of a man, and gave it to the world to worship...and you don't still see a problem with it..till now. I weep for you....
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:26am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
Is the Universe a PERSON?
Is the Universe an ENTITY?
Some call it Olodumare
Others Chineke
Still others Osanobua...

Is he a person ?
Is Olodumare a person?
Is chineke a person?

He is called a the lugal dimmer ankia. The divine king of heaven and earth.

I really don't know if The creator is a person. Some use He to describe God. I don't know. I guess it is just for convenience sake.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:28am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
Those are aspect of God. Just like you Christians choose to approach God through a man that died 2000+ years with zero evidence that he existed, some choose to approach God through the sun and moon. But God warned the Jews

Do not make the image 1 or likeness 2 of anything in the heavens(moon, stars, sun and planets) on earth (man, animals, trees, rivers etc) or under that waters below the earth(algae etc). Do not bow down to them or serve them...
The Roman who did not have any convenant with God, created a God in the image and likeness of a man, and gave it to the world to worship...and you don't still see a problem with it..till now. I weep for you....
No sir.
For Christians
God is the infinite SPIRIT with visible forms as the FATHER in the heavens and the WORD everywhere!
God is a PERSON
God has a WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT




This your own God cannot have a WILL nor EMOTION nor INTELLECT because he is not an ENTITY.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:28am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
An existence can be real or virtual isn't it?

The keyword again is ENTITY meaning SOMEONE or IDENTITY

This your God cannot have a WILL nor EMOTION nor INTELLECT because he is not an ENTITY.
Does God have a will?
Does God have emotions?
Does God have intellect?

Somebody else will answer these..
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:30am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
Does God have a will?
Does God have emotions?
Does God have intellect?

Somebody else will answer these..
To every Christian, Yes!
Our God has a WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT because He exists as a Person and is not just a CONCEPT.

Concepts exist only in the world of imagination!
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:32am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
No sir.
For Christians
God is the infinite SPIRIT with visible forms as the FATHER in the heavens and the WORD everywhere!
God is a PERSON
God has a WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT




This your own God cannot have a WILL nor EMOTION nor INTELLECT because he is not an ENTITY.
Hahhahaa

Why are you giving God human attributes?

You think God is a human being?

See your contradiction? Infinite spirit//visible forms

Go and sit down jare.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:35am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
To every Christian, Yes!
Our God has a WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT because He exists as a Person and is not just a CONCEPT.

Concepts exist only in the world of imagination!
Well, maybe God exist in a world of imagination. Maybe the atheist are right.

Or maybe they don't understand anything.
Or maybe they are inside looking out....there is really nothing to see there. Just emptiness.

God is the totality of existence.

We are the forms through which God experiences itself.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:39am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
Is the Universe a PERSON?
Is the Universe an ENTITY?
Has scientist found the end of the universe...?
Has the hubble telescope seen a human up there ?

The universe is most times personified as a man. I have posted the picture of Marduk here with the universe as his cloak. It is just for story telling. All cultures have it.

All the stories describe what is happening within us. We are the forms through which the universe is experiencing itself...
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:39am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
Well, maybe God exist in a world of imagination. Maybe the atheist are right.

Or maybe they don't understand anything.
Or maybe they are inside looking out....there is really nothing to see there. Just emptiness.

God is the totality of existence.

We are the forms through which God experiences itself.
No sir!
It is the Pantheistic God that exists in imagination because he isn't a person
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by TenQ(op): 10:40am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
Hahhahaa

Why are you giving God human attributes?

You think God is a human being?

See your contradiction? Infinite spirit//visible forms

Go and sit down jare.
Sorry!
It was God that gave us His own attributes and not the other way round!


Haven't you heard before that man was created in God's image?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:40am On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
Are you saying that the verse was lying when it says that God was not in the wind earthquake and fire?

Tell us where the voice was coming from.
I am asking you the question..stop throwing it back at me.

Answer me.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:42am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
I am asking you the question..stop throwing it back at me.

Answer me.
You are the teacher here.

Are you saying that the verse was lying when it says that God was not in the wind earthquake and fire?

Tell us where the voice was coming from.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:43am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
Sorry!
It was God that gave us His own attributes and not the other way round!


Haven't you heard before that man was created in God's image?
Eggxactely.

We are images of God's.
God the mother (the earth) she brought the materials for creating our bodies
God the father (divine consciousness) he gave us his spirit for animating the body.
We are the forms through which God experiences itself.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:44am On Mar 02, 2025
TenQ:
No sir!
It is the Pantheistic God that exists in imagination because he isn't a person
Your opinion.
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by sonmvayina(m): 10:45am On Mar 02, 2025
Truthseeker10:
You are the teacher here.

Are you saying that the verse was lying when it says that God was not in the wind earthquake and fire?

Tell us where the voice was coming from.
Go and chop shit...

I am asking you a question.

Why did you bring up the chapter and verse if you don't know anything about it.?

Where is the voice coming from?
Re: Where Resides The "Jehovah" Of The JW Before He Created Anything by Truthseeker10: 10:47am On Mar 02, 2025
sonmvayina:
Go and chop shit...

I am asking you a question.

Why did you bring up the chapter and verse if you don't know anything about it.?

Where is the voice coming from?
You can tell us since you claim that God was in the earthquake wind and fire even though the verse says otherwise. So please we are waiting for your answer.
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