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tctrills:
Daniel 2:21 – He changes times and seasons; he deposes kings and raises up others. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning.

Colossians 1:16-17 – For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible... all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

You're quoting scriptures that's out of context that's contradictory. Nobody said the world belongs to Satan. The world which is largely occupied by unbelievers is controlled by Satan. But then the owner of it all is the Almighty. I don't see how that's hard for you to understand

hatozeck:
This is where you got it wrong. Christ needed to and should have responded if it weren't true. He knew what Satan was saying is absolutely correct but then he also knows that he's about to defeat him once and for all by going to the cross. And that he did

Don't mind the tctrills guy.....he claims that the bible contradicts itself.

Truthseeker10:
Don't mind the tctrills guy.....he claims that the bible contradicts itself.

He reads his Bible but he obviously doesn't know to connect the dots

hatozeck:
He reads his Bible but he obviously doesn't know to connect the dots

Just stick to the revealed words and stop quoting the devil

hatozeck:
You're quoting scriptures that's out of context that's contradictory. Nobody said the world belongs to Satan. The world which is largely occupied by unbelievers is controlled by Satan. But then the owner of it all is the Almighty. I don't see how that's hard for you to understand

You are talking about 2 unconnected things. Yes the world is occupied by unbelievers but the question was who is in control and the bible makes it clear, it's God not Satan. So you either believe your Bible or create your own opinion.

God owns the world.

But to disgrace Satan, he allowed him a control of it for a limited time.

And how has Satan made the world?? Pain, regret, sorrow, and every other evil vices than can be found.

And thus because of the limited time, Satan now wants to destroy the whole of humanity with him to perdition

hatozeck:
That actually happened when the first man (Adam) fell to Satan temptation. That was when Satan gained control and this is what Christ came back to retrieve from him through his death on the cross.

So Satan is definitely the one controlling the earth but anyone who has genuinely given his life to Christ is no longer bound to be controlled by Satan. Rom 8:1-2

I don't understand at all.
God created humans with the ability to make choices, they made a choice ...even if it is not a good choice...all of a sudden, Satan became controller of earth? I don't get it??

hatozeck:
This is where you got it wrong. Christ needed to and should have responded if it weren't true. He knew what Satan was saying is absolutely correct but then he also knows that he's about to defeat him once and for all by going to the cross. And that he did

You are not in position to tell Jesus Christ what to respond to. Especially when the question of who owns the earth has already been sufficiently answered in the bible l.
It seems you want to teach Jesus Christ how to answer questions.
Again, you are saying that because Jesus Christ did not answer, you have to believe the devil?

hatozeck:
He reads his Bible but he obviously doesn't know to connect the dots

Obviously.

tctrills:
You are talking about 2 unconnected things. Yes the world is occupied by unbelievers but the question was who is in control and the bible makes it clear, it's God not Satan. So you either believe your Bible or create your own opinion.

Where does the Bible explicitly said that God is in control of the world? John 12:31 made it very clear that Satan is the ruler of this world. Maybe you should read that part of the gospel

tctrills:
You are not in position to tell Jesus Christ what to respond to. Especially when the question of who owns the earth has already been sufficiently answered in the bible l.
It seems you want to teach Jesus Christ how to answer questions.
Again, you are saying that because Jesus Christ did not answer, you have to believe the devil?

There we go again with the generalization. We are talking about control here not who owns the world and I have given you enough scriptural backing from the Bible to prove my assertions. This is my last quote to you

sonmvayina:
I don't understand at all.
God created humans with the ability to make choices, they made a choice ...even if it is not a good choice...all of a sudden, Satan became controller of earth? I don't get it??

Read your Bible. Understanding will come later

tctrills:
Just stick to the revealed words and stop quoting the devil

Is this not tctrills that claims that the bible contradicts itself?

tctrills:
You are talking about 2 unconnected things. Yes the world is occupied by unbelievers but the question was who is in control and the bible makes it clear, it's God not Satan. So you either believe your Bible or create your own opinion.

Is this not tctrills that claims that the bible contradicts itself?

Truthseeker10:
Is this not tctrills that claims that the bible contradicts itself?

When I don't answer you, let's see how you will get attention

hatozeck:
There we go again with the generalization. We are talking about control here not who owns the world and I have given you enough scriptural backing from the Bible to prove my assertions. This is my last quote to you

I just sent you verses that clearly told you that God controls the world. Don't you believe the Word of God again.

hatozeck:
Where does the Bible explicitly said that God is in control of the world? John 12:31 made it very clear that Satan is the ruler of this world. Maybe you should read that part of the gospel

Did you read any of the verses I sent you?

tctrills:
When I don't answer you, let's see how you will get attention

🤣🤣🤣....thanks for answering. So na you claim say bible contradicts itself....na wa oo.

tctrills:
I just sent you verses that clearly told you that God controls the world. Don't you believe the Word of God again.

The same word of God that you claim contradicts itself?

hatozeck:
Where does the Bible explicitly said that God is in control of the world? John 12:31 made it very clear that Satan is the ruler of this world. Maybe you should read that part of the gospel

Psalm 24:1 – The earth is the Lord’s, and everything in it, the world, and all who live in it

here we learn that the earth belongs to the Lord not the devil.

Daniel 2:21 – He changes times and seasons; he deposes kings and raises up others. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning.

God is in charge(in control) of the world

Job 12:10 – In his hand is the life of every creature and the breath of all mankind.

Again, God is in control.

Colossians 1:17 – ... He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

Again God is in control

Daniel 4:35:
"All the inhabitants of the earth are considered as nothing, and he does according to his will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; no one can restrain his hand or say to him, 'What are you doing?'"

Again God is in charge not the devil

Do you want more?

If you quote a verse that calls Satan the prince of this earth and throw away the verses that calls God the King of kings how does that make sense. A king is much greater than a prince.

hatozeck:
If your assertion is correct then why did Jesus not refute that statement from Satan when he said he could give him the whole world? Care to answer

In Matthew 27:12-14 when Jesus was accused by the chief priest, Jesus answered nothing. Does that suggest to you that the accusations were true because Jesus didn't answer? See for yourself:

Matthew 27:12-14
[12] And while He was being accused by the chief priests and elders, He answered nothing.
[13]Then Pilate said to Him, “Do You not hear how many things they testify against You?”
[14]But [b]He answered him not one word, [/b]so that the governor marveled greatly.

hatozeck:
Read your Bible. Understanding will come later

I have read it and this is what I found

The earth is the LORD's, and the fullness thereof; The world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, And established it upon the floods. Psalm 24:1-2.

Everything belongs to God.?

sonmvayina:
I have read it and this is what I found

The earth is the LORD's, and the fullness thereof; The world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, And established it upon the floods. Psalm 24:1-2.

Everything belongs to God.?

Obviously

sonmvayina:
I have read it and this is what I found

The earth is the LORD's, and the fullness thereof; The world, and they that dwell therein. For he hath founded it upon the seas, And established it upon the floods. Psalm 24:1-2.

Everything belongs to God.?

And who's arguing otherwise?

gohf:
well you both are right, Satan does control the world which is made up of unbelievers and God's children are no more of the world.

And even though God owns our lives, the devil seeks to control and ruin it, and does he controls he has blinded.

pls sir we God's children are still in the world oooo. Giving your life to Christ doesn't takes you out of this world rather God empowered you with his eternal life to live through this world.

delkuf:
pls sir we God's children are still in the world oooo. Giving your life to Christ doesn't takes you out of this world rather God empowered you with his eternal life to live through this world.

"God's children are no more of the world" is what you read

John.17.14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.

hatozeck:
And who's arguing otherwise?

You and your kind.

Where do people manufacture Satan from??

sonmvayina:
You and your kind.

Where do people manufacture Satan from??

Ok

MaxInDHouse:
Satan said to Jesus:
“I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish." Luke 4:6

Jesus didn't refute that!

Those are earthly people and things that fall under the significance of Satan (sin and destruction)

gohf:
"God's children are no more of the world" is what you read

John.17.14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.

they are not of the world doesn't mean we have been taken out of the world. When we gave our lives to Christ, our spirit and soul is purify spiritually but our body is still here on earth. John 17:12, And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one , as we are. So don't get twisted. We belonged to Christ and we are in the world. If death did not happen, we would taken to heaven when he comes the second time

Fibey69:
Those are earthly people and things that fall under the significance of Satan (sin and destruction)

Well from day one Satan always have the majority which means if there is no divine intervention Satan's people will easily exterminate God's people because they are like 1-1000 in ratio.

That's why the Bible say the whole world is lying under the influence of Satan going by the number of those on his side!

delkuf:
they are not of the world doesn't mean we have been taken out of the world. When we gave our lives to Christ, our spirit and soul is purify spiritually but our body is still here on earth. John 17:12, And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one , as we are. So don't get twisted. We belonged to Christ and we are in the world. If death did not happen, we would taken to heaven when he comes the second time

🤦 calm down and ask yourself who was the one who said, "we have been taken out of the world"