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Starhearts:
Fasting is tradition in Nigeria not repentance
Same set of Muslim nd xtain claiming they are fasting will steal kill, cheat, fornicate, abuse inlvolve in corruption and plan evil of poor neighbors.

What a month hungry strike.

You cannot fast and do all the things listed. You will be too weak to even talk too much.
It's a retreat time

😏 Even bad people go collect Ash for their forehead today. 😎

Wicked people everywhere

smokinloud:
The difference is that no posture is recommended by our LORD. It's only idols that requires you to worship it by slamming head.
JESUS didn't WORSHIP He PRAYED. STAY AWAY FROM THE FALSE PROPHET OF ISLAM THAT LIED TO YOU THAT WORSHIP IS PRAYER.

But which idol asked your God killed by potius pilate to slam his face and body?

Christians theology in a nutshell

God sacrificed God to God in order to save God 's creation from God.

God prayed to God for help but God did not help God and God killed God to help humans.

And God is a father of himself and a son of himself at the same time.

He is also eternal but his birthday is celebrated on the 25th of December or January 7 depending on the sect


He is also the seed of Abraham,who is human and also sent himself on earth and commited to forcing people to commit sin of murder against him;because this was the only way for him to forgive humans for a much lesser sin this one woman who lived 6000years ago committed.



"don't ask just believe and you will be saved"


God sacrificed God"only with holy spirit, you will believe"
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"God will chose you. I you don't believe, it's mean He didn't choose you"

smokinloud:
you're dull but muhammed is Dundee. Read my post when the influence of camel's urine has gone from your brai.n. I've provided answer to your question. The son is a different person from the father. The son was made as sacrifice from the foundation of the earth. The story behind the sacrifice is that GOD IS INFINITELY HOLY, HE CAN'T BEHOLD SIN. HE'S INFINITELY JUST SO THAT IF YOU SIN YOU MUST DIE BUT ALSO, GOD IS INFINITELY LOVING. HE LOVES YOU THAT HE NEVER WANTS YOU TO DIE. THESE ARE PARTS OF HIS ATTRIBUTES. FOR GOD TO BE ALL THESE AT THE SAME TIME THERE HAS TO BE SUBSTITUTION. A PAYMENT FOR SIN WILL MAKE HIM JUST AND NOT CONTRADICT HIS ATTRIBUTES OF BEING INFINITELY LOVING AND INFINITELY HOLY.
Additionally, HE'S QUALIFY TO MAKE HIMSELF AS SUBSTITUTE FOR US BECAUSE HE'S THE SOURCE OF LIFE, IN HIM IS LIFE AND THE LIFE IS THE LIGHT OF MEN. I.E THE LIFE OF MAN ORIGINATED FROM THE LIFE IN HIM THEREFORE HIS PAYMENT FOR OUR SINS CAN BE HEREDITARY
John 1:4
[4]In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

Killed God worshipper,you don't have to shout to make a point.
Just relax!

Zionmdde:
You should be more concerned about how to give out your 6 year old daughter to an uncircumcised dick for sampling. And how to invite your father to come and sample your wife.

May be when you realize how foolish you look to believe your own God that created you was gruesomly murdered by one of your brothers potius pilate in Rome.

Zionmdde:
You should be more concerned about how to give out your 6 year old daughter to an uncircumcised dick for sampling. And how to invite your father to come and sample your wife.

Lol.

On fasting, it's the practice of Christianity and Judaism which was then adopted by Arab Mohammad, albeit with Mecca stone worshipping and Pedophilia.

Dsimmer:
Lol.

On fasting, it's the practice of Christianity and Judaism which was then adopted by Arab Mohammad, albeit with Pedophilia and Mecca stone worshipping.

It was adopted.
It was the same God that sent Jesus of Christianity,Moses of Judaism,that sent Mohammed of Islam hence the constant "fasting" between the 3 abrahamic religions

While muslim accepted the previous two with Muhammad,you Christians rejected Muhammed and took just moses and Jesus,Judaism accepted only Moses and rejected the other 2.
Islam is more advanced of the 3 and more logical with its monotheism and acceptance of all of all the 3 prophets rejected by the two!

hafeeanubasy:
May be when you realize how foolish you look to believe your own God that created you was gruesomly murdered by one of your brothers potius pilate in Rome.

You that is not foolish, but following the steps of a rapist, an uncircumcised pedophile who would be Hot at the sight of a baby, mind your own business. Be a pedophile and child fvcker in peace and leave others to believe what they want

hafeeanubasy:
It was adopted.
It was the same God that sent Jesus of Christianity,Moses of Judaism,that sent Mohammed of Islam hence the constant "fasting" between the 3 abrahamic religions

While muslim accepted the previous two with Muhammad,you Christians rejected Muhammed and took just moses and Jesus,Judaism accepted only Moses and rejected the other 2.
Islam is more advanced of the 3 and more logical with its monotheism and acceptance of all of all the 3 prophets rejected by the two!

Same God yet Arab Pedophile Mohammad was murdering the Israelites? 🙄 Heck, the terrorist Pedophile criminal was murdering non Arabs while wanting to steal their territories!

As a matter of fact, Arab Pedophile Mohammed is Ishmael's descendant to begin with. Not Jakob's descendant! Arab Ped0phile Mohammad should have simply focused on Ishmael's descendants who are his Arab ancestors but then, he had nothing to write about the exploits of Ishmael's descendants who are his Arab ancestors hence had to plagiarize the Jewish history (Jakob descendants) which had no business with him to begin with.

Jakob's descendants such as David, Solomon, Jesus focused on the begotten child who exists since the beginning, even as the name J(akob) means Firstborn.

Olodumare Ayeraye is a spirit whose begotten child represent his visible manifestation since the beginning of creation!

Hussein035:
Can't you see that Jesus is contradicting himself or you Christians are the one contradicting Jesus

How can a savior be begging, it means there is another savior who can save him too

Think before responding please

Jesus is the Son of God

hafeeanubasy:
When Christians call Muslims head slammers.I just laugh at their Ignorance.
They don't know that their JESUS is number 1 head slammer lolz..look at Matthew 26:39

Jesus never bowed down to a stone.
Only pagans do that.

hafeeanubasy:
Beginning of the season when human beings killed God that created them gruesomely.
The God was even praying to another God in heaven to save him but the prayer never got answered by the other God

Stop hiding behind one finger my finger.
The Son of God was praying to his father.
Simple.

Your ignorant Qur'an written by 'God knows who' is the one that thought Allah must have a wife and copulate with her to have a son.
What a blasphemous assertion borne out of crass ignorance.

beardedboy:
Simple question, how does his statement mean he is God? Instead of answering you're committing a fallacy of exact quote.

Anyways, the second part of his sentence already clarifies the matter for you. "No one comes to the father..." means he and the so-called father are different entities.

It's not hard but sentiments obscure commonsense.

Jesus is the Son of God. That's why he's God. He has the same nature/essence as his Father.

John 1
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


Your Qur'an admits to above. That's why it said if Allah truly has a Son, then the Son must also be worshipped.

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If the story of Jesus originated from Osun or any other African state, none of you would believe it. Heck! You even believe that the story of Ifa, Ogun, Amadioha or Sango is a fairytale But Jesus(fake name by the way) is not?

The original Knights of the Christians did good jobs by forcing people to accept Christ under threats of murder. Handed down from generation to generation, it has been generally accepted as a way of life and some hold it as the absolute truth.

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simpleseyi:
You go soon carry your fellow man to the Church snd wed him. I no dey surprised at human’s stupidity again. One thing is to be a serial sinner m, another thing is no carry the shameful act to the Chutch and be blessed by a Reverend

I pity U.
Your Qur'an refutes the faith U holding.

Every Christian agrees Jesus is the Son of God. He's The messiah sent by God as a way of salvation to mankind, this was revealed even to the patriarch as far as 2000 years b4 Christ was born.

No Christian follows a blind faith. The Gospel is revelation that was promised to previous prophets, they wrote about it. This gospel was fulfilled in Christ Jesus as THE MESSIAH- the one to reveal THE ONLY TRUE GOD TO THE WHOLE WORLD.
There's evidence backing our faith.

Quran confirms Muhammed is a false prophet. He died the exact way he was warned he would die if he's ever caught lying- his aorta will be cut.

Quran confirms the gospel and the Torah are true revelation of God. And advised both Christians and Jews to continue following their books. It never said they should abandon it for Quran.

Finally the Quran admits the Son of God should be worshipped.

A sensible Muslim would ask questions but no they would rather bow 5 times a day to a stone like
pagans do.

No prophet called by God ever bowed down to a stone in the worship of God. None.
It's a big sin, something God hates. It's nothing but pure paganism.

Leveticus 26
1 “‘Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God.

But Muslims will come here and argue they worship same God who revealed to Moses that the people should never bow before a stone.

Iranu. The delusion is real.

InvertedHammer:
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If the story of Jesus originated from Osun or any other African state, none of you would believe it. Heck! You even believe that the story of Ifa, Ogun, Amadioha or Sango is a fairytale But Jesus(fake name by the way) is not?

The original Knights of the Christians did good jobs by forcing people to accept Christ under threats of murder. Handed down from generation to generation, it has been generally accepted as a way of life and some hold it as the absolute truth.

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Stale. U are free to worship amadioha or Sango. Nobody stops U. It's your believe.

What we are telling U is they are false gods. It's up to U to produce evidence they are not false gods.


Christian knights forcing Christianity down throats of people is another fabulous story.

The Ethiopians already compiled their gospel called Garima at a time 90% of Europe was stark pagan.

SIRTee15:
Stale. U are free to worship amadioha or Sango. Nobody stops U. It's your believe.

What we are telling U is they are false gods. It's up to U to produce evidence they are not false gods.


Christian knights forcing Christianity down throats of people is another fabulous story.

The Ethiopians already compiled their gospel called Garima at a time 90% of Europe was stark pagan.

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Are you living better than non-Christians?
The toothpaste you use and the Bible you hold were produced by those who just finished worshipping Buddha in his temple.

Knighthood massacre debunked? Of course! Catholic church debunked the roles they played in support of slavery until recently when the Pope offered public apology. Like I said, you will believe anything as long as it is told by whites--your true God. Nobody knew what Jesus or Mary looked like. But the picture of a white man or a white lady drives the psychological message home and you bow in obeisance.

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InvertedHammer:
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Are you living better than non-Christians?
The toothpaste you use and the Bible you hold were produced by those who just finished worshipping Buddha in his temple.

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The way some of U reason, U go fear.
No wonder I put a brake to journey of atheism. It was too obvious it doesn't make sense.

When we tell U read the bible, Una go dey insult us. The question U posed is answered in the bible.

God is a fair God. He pours the same rain to the righteous and wicked, the same sun shines on both the righteous and wicked.

He told Israelites they should submit to the power and might of pagan Babylonia. He warned them rebelling against Babylonia would be very disastrous for them.

Starhearts:
Fasting is tradition in Nigeria not repentance
Same set of Muslim nd xtain claiming they are fasting will steal kill, cheat, fornicate, abuse inlvolve in corruption and plan evil of poor neighbors.

What a month hungry strike.

Generally, Religion can not change anything in Man's life. Is just a mind control.

I prefer relating with a free minded person than a religious man.

Fasting change nothing, to me is just one of religion activity with symbol nothing.

So, I need to stay hunger before my God listen to me He must be a wicked God then.

I need to learn Arabic language, before I can pray to God Then he is not God since, He doesn't understand my language but colonial language.

Know your Creator, communes with him the way it pleases you.

It marks the first day of Lent.

Trendtips:
You cannot fast and do all the things listed. You will be too weak to even talk too much.
It's a retreat time

Yinmu
Fasting that you will eat at 5am n 7pm

What happened to eating by 7pm and stealing by 10pm

Even footballers do fast

SIRTee15:
Jesus is the Son of God. That's why he's God. He has the same nature/essence as his Father.

John 1
18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.


Your Qur'an admits to above. That's why it said if Allah truly has a Son, then the Son must also be worshipped.

What's this salad you wrote.
He is son of God and he is God. This statement defies all logic but you're a Christian so I'm not surprised.

The Qur'an explicitly condemns any insinuation of sonship for God. Stop deceiving yourself.

Trendtips:
You cannot fast and do all the things listed. You will be too weak to even talk too much.
It's a retreat time

D money wey dem use send u go skool supposed use build poultry farm..

beardedboy:
What's this salad you wrote.
He is son of God and he is God. This statement defies all logic but you're a Christian so I'm not surprised.

The Qur'an explicitly condemns any insinuation of sonship for God. Stop deceiving yourself.

Well it's in the injeel so I don't know what U mean by salad, I didn't make it up- read John 1.18.

U are best ignored, But for sake of others, I will give more exegesis.

Jesus is not another God. He's simply referred to as God because he has the same divinity as his Father.
His personal designation is the Son of God.
It's the same divinity in both of them, one divinity not 2.

Let's assume the Father's divinity cease, the Son's divinity automatically disappears. The divinity in both the Son and Father is the same. THE DIVINITY IS NOT DIFFERENT.
Same as existence, the existence of father and Son is One not Two.

HOW THIS IS DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND BY EDUCATED MIND IS WHAT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
ITS SIMPLE LOGIC.

It's one thing to reject a principle because U don't believe in it. It's another thing to lack the basic cognitive reasoning to comprehend simple things.

It's like saying the air in Sokoto is different from the air in Lagos. Air is Air my friend. Whether in kafancha or kontagura. The composition of air is the same anywhere and anytime so long as it AIR.

The problem is with the Quran.

There's a serious foundational knowledge gap in Quran which is the genesis of this unnecessary argument.

The writers of the Quran were oblivious of the omnipresent nature of God. They didn't know God can be in multiple places at the same time.

When God was described in the Quran, the writers commited a serious blunder by tying God to one location which is above his throne. This inadvertently means his divinity is fixed and immobile.

This definitely contradict the previous scriptures- both old and new testament which confirms the omnipresent nature of God and the manifestation of his divinity in multiple places at the same time.
These include

presence of God in the tabernacle,
the glory of God in the holy of holies of the Israelite temple,
The Angel of the Lord who spoke to the Patriarch including Abraham and Moses
The spirit of God as described in the tanakh and Talmud.
The One like a Son of Man who spoke to Ezekiel.
The memra of the Lord as described in the Targum scriptures.
Finally Jesus Christ who is the word of God in flesh.

It's then embarrassing to say the least that the so called final revelation had no knowledge of this attribute. It's not like the Quran denied God as omnipresent, Quran simply didn't know God is omnipresent.

This defective knowledge gap in the Quran shouldn't be overlooked but should be questioned.
This is the reasons Muslims find it difficult to conceptualise that the divinity of God can be in Jesus Christ.
This is also the reason Muslims say Allah cannot enter his creation because they are afraid if Allah does enter his creation, then his throne in heaven will be empty and abandoned.

femi4:
Yinmu
Fasting that you will eat at 5am n 7pm

What happened to eating by 7pm and stealing by 10pm

Even footballers do fast

I admit some people do not fast but starve but a good of people do a lot of soul search and praying this period and do not sin.
I also admit some will stick to a good lifestyle right now and go back after the fast but that doesn't discredit fasting.

SIRTee15:
Well it's in the injeel so I don't know what U mean by salad, I didn't make it up- read John 1.18.

U are best ignored, But for sake of others, I will give more exegesis.

Jesus is not another God. He's simply referred to as God because he has the same divinity as his Father.
His personal designation is the Son of God.
It's the same divinity in both of them, one divinity not 2.

Let's assume the Father's divinity cease, the Son's divinity automatically disappears. The divinity in both the Son and Father is the same. THE DIVINITY IS NOT DIFFERENT.

HOW THIS IS DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND BY EDUCATED MIND IS WHAT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
ITS SIMPLE LOGIC.

It's one thing to reject a principle because U don't believe in it. It's another thing to lack the basic cognitive reasoning to comprehend simple things.

It's like saying the air in Sokoto is different from the air in Lagos. Air is Air my friend. Whether in kafancha or kontagura. The composition of air is the same anywhere and anytime so long as it AIR.

The problem is with the Quran.

There's a serious foundational knowledge gap in Quran which is the genesis of this unnecessary argument.

The writers of the Quran were oblivious of the omnipresent nature of God. They didn't know God can be in multiple places at the same time.

When God was described in the Quran, the writers commited a serious blunder by tying God to one location which is above his throne. This inadvertently means his divinity is fixed and immobile.

This definitely contradict the previous scriptures- both old and new testament which confirms the omnipresent nature of God and the manifestation of his divinity in multiple places at the same time.
These include

presence of God in the tabernacle,
the glory of God in the holy of holies of the Israelite temple,
The Angel of the Lord who spoke to the Patriarch including Abraham and Moses
The spirit of God as described in the tanakh and Talmud.
The One like a Son of Man who spoke to Ezekiel.
The memra of the Lord as described in the Targum scriptures.
Finally Jesus Christ who is the word of God in flesh.

It's then embarrassing to say the least that the so called final revelation had no knowledge of this attribute. It's not like the Quran denied God as omnipresent, Quran simply didn't know God is omnipresent.

This defective knowledge gap in the Quran shouldn't be overlooked but should be questioned.
This is the reasons Muslims find it difficult to conceptualise that the divinity of God can be in Jesus Christ.
This is also the reason Muslims say Allah cannot enter his creation because they are afraid if Allah does enter his creation, then his throne will be empty and abandoned while on earth.

This is very clear and concise
Well done Sir

Trendtips:
I admit some people do not fast but starve but a good of people do a lot of soul search and praying this period and do not sin.
I also admit some will stick to a good lifestyle right now and go back after the fast but that doesn't discredit fasting.

I think you don't understand the mentality of Nigerians, they even pray for guidance n protection when committing evils. Try north bush path if you think everywhere is peaceful this period

SIRTee15:
Well it's in the injeel so I don't know what U mean by salad, I didn't make it up- read John 1.18.

U are best ignored, But for sake of others, I will give more exegesis.

Jesus is not another God. He's simply referred to as God because he has the same divinity as his Father.
His personal designation is the Son of God.
It's the same divinity in both of them, one divinity not 2.

Let's assume the Father's divinity cease, the Son's divinity automatically disappears. The divinity in both the Son and Father is the same. THE DIVINITY IS NOT DIFFERENT.
Same as existence, the existence of father and Son is One not Two.

HOW THIS IS DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND BY EDUCATED MIND IS WHAT I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND.
ITS SIMPLE LOGIC.

It's one thing to reject a principle because U don't believe in it. It's another thing to lack the basic cognitive reasoning to comprehend simple things.

It's like saying the air in Sokoto is different from the air in Lagos. Air is Air my friend. Whether in kafancha or kontagura. The composition of air is the same anywhere and anytime so long as it AIR.

The problem is with the Quran.

There's a serious foundational knowledge gap in Quran which is the genesis of this unnecessary argument.

The writers of the Quran were oblivious of the omnipresent nature of God. They didn't know God can be in multiple places at the same time.

When God was described in the Quran, the writers commited a serious blunder by tying God to one location which is above his throne. This inadvertently means his divinity is fixed and immobile.

This definitely contradict the previous scriptures- both old and new testament which confirms the omnipresent nature of God and the manifestation of his divinity in multiple places at the same time.
These include

presence of God in the tabernacle,
the glory of God in the holy of holies of the Israelite temple,
The Angel of the Lord who spoke to the Patriarch including Abraham and Moses
The spirit of God as described in the tanakh and Talmud.
The One like a Son of Man who spoke to Ezekiel.
The memra of the Lord as described in the Targum scriptures.
Finally Jesus Christ who is the word of God in flesh.

It's then embarrassing to say the least that the so called final revelation had no knowledge of this attribute. It's not like the Quran denied God as omnipresent, Quran simply didn't know God is omnipresent.

This defective knowledge gap in the Quran shouldn't be overlooked but should be questioned.
This is the reasons Muslims find it difficult to conceptualise that the divinity of God can be in Jesus Christ.
This is also the reason Muslims say Allah cannot enter his creation because they are afraid if Allah does enter his creation, then his throne in heaven will be empty and abandoned.

1. You said it's in the Qur'an but when asked for reference you're saying it's in the injeel.

2. What you have with you is the bible not the injeel revealed to Jesus. After all, the book of John you quoted was written by John not Jesus himself. And it wasn't written during Jesus' lifetime.

3. Every other thing you wrote is an epistle of nothing. Nobody with a working intellect will give it any attention.

beardedboy:
1. You said it's in the Qur'an but when asked for reference you're saying it's in the injeel.

2. What you have with you is the bible not the injeel revealed to Jesus. After all, the book of John you quoted was written by John not Jesus himself. And it wasn't written during Jesus' lifetime.

3. Every other thing you wrote is an epistle of nothing. Nobody with a working intellect will give it any attention.

U are too shallow for me to waste my time on ..I don't have what it takes to engage in any sound theology.


Just answer a simple question

Is Allah omnipresent?

SIRTee15:
U are too shallow for me to waste my time on ..I don't have what it takes to engage in any sound theology.
Just answer a simple question
Is Allah omnipresent?

He is omnipresent with his power and knowledge. But not omnipresent in his essence.

Mind you, I clearly noticed how you shifted the debate topic again but once again I'll let you have fun with your L.

beardedboy:
He is omnipresent with his power and knowledge. But not omnipresent in his essence.

Mind you, I clearly noticed how you shifted the debate topic again but once again I'll let you have fun with your L.

If Allah is not omnipresent, then he's not God that revealed himself to the Patriarch- Abraham, Isaac and Moses.

The God of Abraham and Moses we call Father is not Allah.

End of discussion.

I answered your question, whatever it is. Your response was U don't understand it.

SIRTee15:
If Allah is not omnipresent, then he's not God that revealed himself to the Patriarch- Abraham, Isaac and Moses.

The God of Abraham and Moses we call Father is not Allah.

End of discussion.

I answered your question, whatever it is. Your response was U don't understand it.

1. The problem with you is you like God to man. Unlike humans, His power and knowledge are absolute and omnipresent so His physical presence adds nothing to His power and greatness. Afterall, we humans need to be physically present because our knowledge and authority are limited by our physical presence or absence.

2. As a Muslim, we don't believe Moses or Abraham or Isaac saw God. They only communicated with Him. Even Moses, who spoke directly to God only saw His Light, not His actual essence.

3. If you think well, you'll see that your claim and understanding of God revealing Himself to those prophet's actually negate your claim of God's physical omnipresence. If He is fully present in one location, then He is not fully present elsewhere. That would limit Him, which contradicts the concept of an infinite God.

4. If your God is omnipresent, then he's also in cow dung, and pig butt? If He is truly everywhere in a literal sense, then He must be in the lowest and most impure places too. This logic goes against the very concept of divine majesty.

5. You never answered any of my questions. You only did mental gymnastics that every sensible person knows lacks substance.