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Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Homiesjinxbank: 4:00pm On Mar 05, 2025
Why was Russia not invited to the first peace summit in Switzerland??

Let me ask you on thing, why is EU hell bent on continuing the war?? I thought they were group of Economic Countries?? Why are they busy buying weapons??

Even Kier Starmer couldn’t answer a simple question, Trump asked him if they could take on Russia alone, the mumu was laughing! They all know the truth, but they are still encouraging Ukraine!!



lexy2014:
which table is zelensky coming to?

why was zelensky not invited to saudi arabia when trump decided to start his so called "peace talks" with Russia?

if Zelensky campaigned on "the promise of mending relationships between Ukraine and Russia" and started doing something else, is that the reason for the invasion?

is it Russia that voted for him?

if he promised Ukrainians one thing and started doing another, is that not for the people of Ukraine to decide if they like his decisions or not?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Mandate1: 4:02pm On Mar 05, 2025
D00msDay:
Trump should take it easy on Zelensky. His making it look like Zelensky was the aggressor. Zelenskys crime was his attempt to joining Nato. Putin did the invasion, the war was and is being fought in Ukrainian territory yet making the young man look like his the one at fault. I'm not supporting Trump on this.

A peace deal should also favour Ukraine. U can't draft a one sided peace deal and expect Zelensky to rush and grab it wit joy.
the US will regret this Trump in few years time. He's not a good leader.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by engrchykae(m): 4:05pm On Mar 05, 2025
lexy2014:
grin cheesy

when did Gorbachev give back east Germany?

who did he take it from and who did he give it to?

how and where did NATO encroachment and who was it aggressive toward?

if you say "Putin will never give back an inch of land", where did he get the land from?
the falll of nazi Germany was on two front.
The allies were pushing from the west while the Russian red army under zhukov were pushing from the East.
At last they both converged in Germany.
Russia took east Germany as war booty while the allies took West Germany as war booty.
The Americans pumped in money into West Germany making it more prosperous than East Germany while East Germans try to go over to West Germany for better life.
The allies begged Russia to hand over East Germany so that Germany will be united and prosperous.
Gorbachev agreed but on a condition that NATO will stop encroaching into the East.
The Minsk agreement.
But NATO never kept to the agreement.
They kept encroaching until they were right there in Russia doorstep Ukraine.
For Russia, Ukraine is the red line
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Bigshots001(m): 4:06pm On Mar 05, 2025
lexy2014:
what do you mean by "sustain peace"?

is it zelensky the one that invaded ukraine or did he invade Russia?
The issue of invasion is secondary here, that's what they want to use to buy sympathy from the world.
Any Ukraine president that pursues a policy of hostility to Russia will met Zelensky's fate in one way or the other.
Jettison NATO membership and form a policy of neutrality which be good for everyone.
Russia acted in Self-defense by rather being offensive,if not Zelensky has already perfected plans to join NATO and have NATO nukes and equipment surround Russia, which is dangerous for any Super-power thorns allow, but this Zelensky hated Russians and Putin so much that he was willing to do that,so that article V will be invoke anytime Russian tries to defend itself against Ukraine.
It was the Russo-phobic agenda that got his country where they're right now and I guess he now understands that he doesn't have much power as he was meant to believe he has initially.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by engrchykae(m): 4:09pm On Mar 05, 2025
Ttipsy:
Trump sudden romance with trump speaks volumes

I am not a fool to acknowledge that lol
any serious stake holder in this world right now wont be pushing for the destruction of the world.trump is a big stake holder.unlike the comedian zelensky who sees everything as comedy
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by lexy2014: 4:12pm On Mar 05, 2025
Bigshots001:
If you listen to Vlads interview it was Zelensky who renegaded on Minks agreement 2 by mistreating the Dombass and Luhanks region by forcefully trying to integrate them into Ukraine, agreed Putin took cremea in 2014 this was before Minks 1 agreement not to talk of the Minks 2 and this Region are native Russians, banned Russian culture and language in school etc..you know, flouting his power because of UK and NATO promises,and Vlad can't take it anymore when Zelensky submitted proposals to join NATO, who no Ukraine president in his right thinking will want to do so, the NATO members that backed him has exhausted all of their options even trying to get the US to engage directly.
You live closely to a super-power country you should have been at least friendly to them.
After the ousting of Yanovitch by CIA, Putin understands the game being played here and attacking Ukraine was the best option on the table.
Remember,it was Putin pleading before that stop expanding towards our doorstep,stop expanding Eastward, don't bring Ukraine into your allies.
At anytime Russians feel a security threat by their opps, they must act in the interest of their security, that's what Zelensky ignored and was acting tough,now he has met a tough US president, what's he saying nowhuh
Wisdom is profitable to direct, diplomacy would have sorted this out not arrogance and hatred for Putin.
what aspect of the Minsk agreement did Zelensky renage on?

how did Zelensky mistreat "the Dombass and Luhanks region?

how and when did he forcefully try to integrate them into Ukraine?

if joining NATO is the reason you are giving for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, how come Russia has not invaded Finland which shares a border with Russia and joined NATO after Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

who is "Yanovitch"?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by lexy2014:
engrchykae:
the falll of nazi Germany was on two front.
The allies were pushing from the west while the Russian red army under zhukov were pushing from the East.
At last they both converged in Germany.
Russia took east Germany as war booty while the allies took West Germany as war booty.
The Americans pumped in money into West Germany making it more prosperous than East Germany while East Germans try to go over to West Germany for better life.
The allies begged Russia to hand over East Germany so that Germany will be united and prosperous.
Gorbachev agreed but on a condition that NATO will stop encroaching into the East.
The Minsk agreement.
But NATO never kept to the agreement.
They kept encroaching until they were right there in Russia doorstep Ukraine.
For Russia, Ukraine is the red line
I didnt ask for all this story. my questions are very explicit and straight to the point.

1. when did Gorbachev give back east Germany?

2. who did he take it from and who did he give it to?

3. how and where did NATO encroach and who was it aggressive toward?

4. if you say "Putin will never give back an inch of land", where did he get the land from?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Ringstonermasks: 4:14pm On Mar 05, 2025
D00msDay:
Trump should take it easy on Zelensky. His making it look like Zelensky was the aggressor. Zelenskys crime was his attempt to joining Nato. Putin did the invasion, the war was and is being fought in Ukrainian territory yet making the young man look like his the one at fault. I'm not supporting Trump on this.

A peace deal should also favour Ukraine. U can't draft a one sided peace deal and expect Zelensky to rush and grab it wit joy.
u are a nobody from a shit hole country, ur support means nothing to trump.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by lexy2014: 4:15pm On Mar 05, 2025
Homiesjinxbank:
Why was Russia not invited to the first peace summit in Switzerland??

Let me ask you on thing, why is EU hell bent on continuing the war?? I thought they were group of Economic Countries?? Why are they busy buying weapons??

Even Kier Starmer couldn’t answer a simple question, Trump asked him if they could take on Russia alone, the mumu was laughing! They all know the truth, but they are still encouraging Ukraine!!
that is not what I asked you.

1. which table is zelensky coming to?

2. why was zelensky not invited to saudi arabia when trump decided to start his so called "peace talks" with Russia?

3. if Zelensky campaigned on "the promise of mending relationships between Ukraine and Russia" and started doing something else, is that the reason for the invasion?

4. is it Russia that voted for him?

5. if he promised Ukrainians one thing and started doing another, is that not for the people of Ukraine to decide if they like his decisions or not?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by lexy2014: 4:16pm On Mar 05, 2025
Bigshots001:
The issue of invasion is secondary here, that's what they want to use to buy sympathy from the world.
Any Ukraine president that pursues a policy of hostility to Russia will met Zelensky's fate in one way or the other.
Jettison NATO membership and form a policy of neutrality which be good for everyone.
Russia acted in Self-defense by rather being offensive,if not Zelensky has already perfected plans to join NATO and have NATO nukes and equipment surround Russia, which is dangerous for any Super-power thorns allow, but this Zelensky hated Russians and Putin so much that he was willing to do that,so that article V will be invoke anytime Russian tries to defend itself against Ukraine.
It was the Russo-phobic agenda that got his country where they're right now and I guess he now understands that he doesn't have much power as he was meant to believe he has initially.
1. what do you mean by "sustain peace"?

2. is it zelensky the one that invaded ukraine or did he invade Russia?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by positivelord: 4:17pm On Mar 05, 2025
lexy2014:
What is the information that Trump that Zelensky does not have?

Can you kindly share?

Which war is avoidable?

How is zelensky responsible for the war and how is he being blamed for the WW3 you mentioned?

Who and who did he invade?

Ukraine is the aggressor.. yeah kiss the truth.. like Trump will say, Ukraine started the war, when they made move to join NATO... Putin is during exactly what America will do if Mexico try to form military alliance with Russia... stay neutral men and everybody will good...



How can a country that was invaded be responsible for starting WW3?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by searchlight: 4:17pm On Mar 05, 2025
ogascomax:
Now we will know who is the boss. It's funny when you hear people saying Trump will destroy USA, that they will lose their world power status. Dumb make such statements, like it's idiotic to even think so. Do you know who Trump is and the US institution. I will ask again those who think Trump style of bringing peace to Ukraine is bad. Please propose your own I want to read it.
I don't like Trump but no one can deny that he's a pragmatist. He said it point blank to Zelensky, that he can't win the war. Trump knows what Russia is capable of, but some nairaland children will tell you how Russia will be wiped out of the surface of the earth. Any intellegient US president would avoid war with Russia, unless Russia attacks US directly. I don't have much to say
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Lamasta(m): 4:17pm On Mar 05, 2025
engrchykae:
trump is working for humanity.
Not the demons who have built nuclear bunkers and are toying with ww3 so that they can wipe out human population.
That's why they are pushing down LGBT nonsense down humanity's throat so that humanity will commit suicide, LGBT doesn't encourage reproduction.
God help Trump and the few sane people who are remaining in this world
We are discussing war not LGBTQ
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Bigshots001(m): 4:18pm On Mar 05, 2025
lexy2014:
what aspect of the Minsk agreement did Zelensky renage on?

how did Zelensky mistreat "the Dombass and Luhanks region?

how and when did he forcefully try to integrate them into Ukraine?

if joining NATO is the reason you are giving for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, how come Russia has not invaded Finland which shares a border with Russia and joined NATO after Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

who is "Yanovitch"?
I guess you need to study this war more before asking me all these questions, which I might not have the time to answer all.
Ukraine is more strategic than Finland to Russia.
The Dombass region was marginalized they called to Putin to help, remember in the Minks 2 agreement these regions was allowed to assume autonomy,but Z thought he can do power and get away with it.
Yanovitch (if I get the spelling well) is the Pro-russian president of Ukraine that was toppled in 2014 by CIA and Z was almost installed by the west.
For lasting peace, Ukraine will have to be neutral.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Helpout12345: 4:18pm On Mar 05, 2025
It's US generated intelligence. The US reserves the rights to Its usage by any country.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by searchlight: 4:20pm On Mar 05, 2025
yommen:
All I know is even Americans are booing Trump wherever he goes.
Same way we boo Tinubu here in south east, does it stop him from being the 001 of Nigeria and calling the shots?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by babat89: 4:21pm On Mar 05, 2025
SmartPolician:
The president of a UK's former colony is giving orders to their former colonial master, while Nigerians are still blaming the UK for everything wrong with Nigeria. The black man just hates to take responsibility for his failure.
God bless you.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by PepeXKermit: 4:21pm On Mar 05, 2025
Heffalump:
America will lose world power status very fast under Trump and this will be almost irrecoverable.

It's like the prophesy of the Bear and Tigre (Russia and China) taking over as world powers is going to manifest in our own eyes and our time. Trump doesn't know his birthright and he's ready to give it up sheepishly due to misplaced priority.
they will lose it eitherway, either with Trump or without Trump
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by lexy2014: 4:21pm On Mar 05, 2025
Bigshots001:
I guess you need to study this war more before asking me all these questions, which I might not have the time to answer all.
Ukraine is more strategic than Finland to Russia.
The Dombass region was marginalized they called to Putin to help, remember in the Minks 2 agreement these regions was allowed to assume autonomy,but Z thought he can do power and get away with it.
Yanovitch (if I get the spelling well) is the Pro-russian president of Ukraine that was toppled in 2014 by CIA and Z was almost installed by the west.
For lasting peace, Ukraine will have to be neutral.
since you have studied war, then you should have no problems answering my questions succinctly and comprehensively.

lets try again:

1. what aspect of the Minsk agreement did Zelensky renage on?

2. how did Zelensky mistreat "the Dombass and Luhanks region?

3. how and when did he forcefully try to integrate them into Ukraine?

4. if joining NATO is the reason you are giving for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, how come Russia has not invaded Finland which shares a border with Russia and joined NATO after Russia's invasion of Ukraine?

5. who is "Yanovitch"?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Bigshots001(m): 4:22pm On Mar 05, 2025
lexy2014:
1. what do you mean by "sustain peace"?

2. is it zelensky the one that invaded ukraine or did he invade Russia?
Neutral will prevent further Russian invasion.

The second question is funny to me, read what I wrote in my previous reply to you please.
Remember, there will never be a conflict without a cause, so think about it.
Something prompted the invasion so far..I don't need to school you on that please.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by lexy2014: 4:23pm On Mar 05, 2025
Bigshots001:
Neutral will prevent further Russian invasion.

The second question is funny to me, read what I wrote in my previous reply to you please.
Remember, there will never be a conflict without a cause, so think about it.
Something prompted the invasion so far..I don't need to school you on that please.
Neutral in what way?

is zelensky the one that invaded ukraine or did he invade Russia?

simple yes or no
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by searchlight: 4:27pm On Mar 05, 2025
PepeXKermit:
Europe is a puppet continent. omo the psyop was complete after 2nd world war
Imagine the world without Russia, USA would have been running everyone over. Putin is the aggressor here but because of overbearing attitude of US, I support Putin.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by JuanDeDios: 4:27pm On Mar 05, 2025
D00msDay:
Trump should take it easy on Zelensky. His making it look like Zelensky was the aggressor. Zelenskys crime was his attempt to joining Nato. Putin did the invasion, the war was and is being fought in Ukrainian territory yet making the young man look like his the one at fault. I'm not supporting Trump on this.

A peace deal should also favour Ukraine. U can't draft a one sided peace deal and expect Zelensky to rush and grab it wit joy.
When did Zelensky apply to join Nato?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Krismas(m): 4:27pm On Mar 05, 2025
D00msDay:
Trump should take it easy on Zelensky. His making it look like Zelensky was the aggressor. Zelenskys crime was his attempt to joining Nato. Putin did the invasion, the war was and is being fought in Ukrainian territory yet making the young man look like his the one at fault. I'm not supporting Trump on this.

A peace deal should also favour Ukraine. U can't draft a one sided peace deal and expect Zelensky to rush and grab it wit joy.
grin See dem, those who think they know more dan Trump.
Ukraine as a former Soviet country acted very foolishly in helping the west to destroy Russia.
After 3yrs of war and all the sanctions of this world, the west thought Russia would have broken up into 11republics like former USSR. So, Ukraine will have to lose territory as a lesson.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Bluffly: 4:30pm On Mar 05, 2025
betbaron:
shocked
Who does Trump think he is?
How can one country ban three or more countries from doing what is right.
They only banned them from sharing US generated intelligence and not the UK's generated intelligence. The intelligence belongs to USA in the first place. So no fuse
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by searchlight: 4:31pm On Mar 05, 2025
jaxxy:
Kiev is well protected and putin doesn't have the ground resources to overpower Kiev. He limited men will be destroyed in no time.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Chai. Do you read at all kid?
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Psoul(m): 4:35pm On Mar 05, 2025
Trump, the president of the whole world.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by jaxxy(m): 4:36pm On Mar 05, 2025
searchlight:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Chai. Do you read at all kid?
Yes kid so why don't they go into kiev it's been 3 years there's been more than enough time.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Bigshots001(m): 4:38pm On Mar 05, 2025
lexy2014:
Neutral in what way?

is it zelensky the one that invaded ukraine or did he invade Russia?

simple yes or no
You have asked this stupid question repeatedly and I have answered it in the best manner, maybe you should go ask your father or your mom who invaded who.
This your position no longer counts now, Zelensky is being pressed on negotiation without guarantees and he isn't even at the table and his territory and mineral resources gone because of that stupid attempt to bring Ukraine into NATO and stupid policy of anti-Russia.
Don't engage me again if you can't reason beyond your nose or you're totally ignorant of the history of this war.
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by lexy2014: 4:39pm On Mar 05, 2025
Bigshots001:
You have asked this stupid question repeatedly and I have answered it in the best manner, maybe you should go ask your father or your mom who invaded who.
This your position no longer counts now, Zelensky is being pressed on negotiation without guarantees and he isn't even at the table and his territory and mineral resources gone because of that stupid attempt to bring Ukraine into NATO and stupid policy of anti-Russia.
Don't engage me again if you can't reason beyond your nose or you're totally ignorant of the history of this war.
that is not what I asked you.

Neutral in what way?

is it zelensky the one that invaded ukraine or did he invade Russia?

simple yes or no
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by descarado: 4:39pm On Mar 05, 2025
hotwax:
so Americans are depressed? this CBS poll..NYT is also close...

Get a life...
Loving it well. Couldn't have asked for a better one
Re: Trump ‘BANS Britain From Sharing War Intelligence With Ukraine by Bigshots001(m): 4:40pm On Mar 05, 2025
lexy2014:
Neutral in what way?

is it zelensky the one that invaded ukraine or did he invade Russia?

simple yes or no
You have asked this stupid question repeatedly and I have answered it in the best manner, maybe you should go ask your father or your mom who invaded who.
This your position no longer counts now, Zelensky is being pressed on negotiation without guarantees and he isn't even at the table and his territory and mineral resources gone because of that stupid attempt to bring Ukraine into NATO and stupid policy of anti-Russia.
Don't engage me again if you can't reason beyond your nose or you're totally ignorant of the history of this war.
Neutrality means not joining neither Russian military alliance block nor NATO.
What's the underlying bone of contention that the both parties are emphasizing about?
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