₦airaland Forum

Theflint1:
Are you saying the link I shared does not apply in Nigeria, at least in our rule books?

I agree it's my word against your word thing, I said so prior, my point is if the Senate's ethic committee for whatever reason said they'd not consider her petition, why then are they giving her a 6 month suspension from the Senate? It certainly can't be because she was rowdy.

This is the full text of Natasha's petition:
https://www.nairaland.com/8361171/full-text-petition-sen-natasha. She claimed Akpabio harrassed her a year ago in Uyo in the company of her husband when he was alone with her. Her husband is still close to Akpabio. H got multimillionaire contracts from Akpabio.

Since then there have been many visits of her to him and photographed ones. She's been chummy and still close to his family yet immediately her seat was changed two weeks ago, he suddenly became the Devil who sexually harassed her.

Are you going to let your hatred becloud your thinking or you are going to be rational? What did you learn from Neymar and Ronaldo fake sexual assault accusations?

So you are saying if a woman accuses you of sexual assault tomorrow, you colleague even, we should believe her just for saying it without proof or credible witness? TheFlint1, are you really thinking this argument through?

raumdeuter:
That was because Akpabio apologized
See minute 5:05 below

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7476002351933934853

Seen, the video speaks more to Saraki's maturity and brilliance, helps too that one party didn't have a raging hardon for the other.

DissTroy:
This is the full text of Natasha's petition:
https://www.nairaland.com/8361171/full-text-petition-sen-natasha. The claimed Akpabio harrassed her a year ago in Uyo in the company of her husband when he was alone with her. Her husband is still close to Akpabio. H got multimillionaire contracts from Akpabio.

Since then there have been many visits of her to him and photographed ones. She's been chummy and still close to his family yet immediately her seat was changed two weeks ago, he suddenly became the Devil who sexually harassed her.

Are you going to let your hatred becloud your thinking or you are going to be rational? What did you learn from Neymar and Ronaldo fake sexual assault accusations?

So you are saying if a woman accuses you of sexual assault tomorrow, you colleague even, we should believe her just for saying it without proof or credible witness? TheFlint1, are you really thinking this argument through?

She was harassed over 1yr ago when she was just entering Senate but she didnt tell anyone nor her husband until when her seat was changed and she told it on a media outlet

The same way Ese Walters visited Fatoyinbo 7 different days all week to be raped, she was raped on Monday then went on Tuesday raped, went on Wednesday.. All through she was using her money and transport to go meet her assailant in the hotel

There is the slippery slope when these privileged women in order to settle scores they abuse the "rape/sexual assault" angle just to get at someone they don't like at this point

It puts real victims of sexual assault and harassments in jeopardy as it waters down their case. An innocent girl is probably facing a brutal harassments/assault but people like Natasha, Neymar/Ronaldo accusers have watered down what is grievous allegations

Theflint1:
Seen, the video speaks more to Saraki's maturity and brilliance, helps too that one party didn't have a raging hardon for the other.

Akpabio gave her more than enough rope to pull and it helps that Akpabio was matured enough to apologize and not start claiming rape or some victim card e.g because "I am a minority card" . I am sure if Akpabio had pulled the "Minority card" many would have believed him too when it was simple ethics in the house

The day any random Alimotu or Preye or Imaobong petty-trading banana and groundnuts by the road side accuses Wike of sexual assault would be the very height of media conspiracies.

Obidients haté him. PDP think he should never have been born. These guys dominate X. That day you'd read opinion pieces from mushroom blogs insisting Wîke is a rapîst and the only thing the accusations would stand on is the unverified utterances of a random street girl.

I want bad leaders gone like you do. But if you want them taken down by falsehood, you're just as bad as everything we accuse them of.

DissTroy:
This is the full text of Natasha's petition:
https://www.nairaland.com/8361171/full-text-petition-sen-natasha. The claimed Akpabio harrassed her a year ago in Uyo in the company of her husband when he was alone with her. Her husband is still close to Akpabio. H got multimillionaire contracts from Akpabio.

Since then there have been many visits of her to him and photographed ones. She's been chummy and still close to his family yet immediately her seat was changed two weeks ago, he suddenly became the Devil who sexually harassed her.

Are you going to let your hatred becloud your thinking or you are going to be rational? What did you learn from Neymar and Ronaldo fake sexual assault accusations?

So you are saying if a woman accuses you of sexual assault tomorrow, you colleague even, we should believe her just for saying it without proof or credible witness? TheFlint1, are you really thinking this argument through?

You're deliberately missing my point.
The below was my first post on the Natasha-Akpabio situation.

Theflint1:
So did Natasha get a 6 month suspension for the disruption over seating arrangements, or for accusing the senate president of sexual harassment?

The sexual harassment situation was essentially an issue between two persons, and basically one persons word against the other...if they were to adjudicate on that, the fair thing to do would have been to suspend both parties until they had sorted their issues, or recommend resolution outside of the senate.

They chose not to investigate the issue, and struck it out on technicalities, yet went ahead to punish one party, and it's clear that her "crime" of disrupting senate preceding's doesn't match the 6 month suspension so while they didn't attend to her petition, it didn't stop them from punishing her for daring to file it .

It's speaks to the state of things that our political office holders are moving like this.

I once dissed a girl on FB some years ago the next the said was because I asked her out and she didn't agree to be with me that's I dissed her; she said that after blocking me and I couldn't defend myself. Sexual harassment is a crime against humanity/decency, however, not every accusation against an individual should be accepted and taken at face value without probing questions to ascertain the truth.

Amoto94:
I once dissed a girl on FB some years ago the next the said was because I asked her out and she didn't agree to be with me that's I dissed her; she said that after blocking me and I couldn't defend myself. Sexual harassment is a crime against humanity/decency, however, not every accusation against an individual should be accepted and taken at face value without probing questions to ascertain the truth.

A lady accused me in the nested comment section of a Facebook page of being a bully and arrogant and blah blah blah because of my comments on a very popular page about holding women accountable.
Somehow she made it look like I was stalking her to feel good about herself; and when I came online minutes later, several women were edging her on.

My saving grace was she had inboxed me months earlier repeatedly but I didn't respond. The messages were in my spam folder so there's no indication if I saw her messages or read them. Then I screenshotted and posted her messages to show she was in fact the stalker. The same women who believed her without evidence began blaming me who had evidence to defend myself for humiliating her.

Too many women get away with false accusations. Call it anything but I document diligently my interactions with non-familial women. None has accused so far but there are backlogs of chats and screenshots filed away and updated on a special Google Drive, even voice notes with females. Including for every ex and entanglement.
I've seen too many men get taken down by false sexual molestation accusations for me not to take precautions. Paranoia be damned.

The Heavens forbid I get caught off-guard 10 or 20 years from now. I stated this even as far back as 2016 and I'm never stopping.

DissTroy:
I don't really like Akpabio but he's right this time. Your Senator has a history of weaponising false sexual harassment accusation. For far too long, women have destroyed men with false accusations.

In 2019, Actress Dorcas Fapson falsely accused a Taxify driver of rape. He lost his job and was arrested. His saving grace was his dash cam which showed she was the one making moves on him but he rebuffed. Nothing happened to her.

In 2018. a girl accused a popular Twitter influencer UcheDandyMUFC of rape. His saving grace was his Twitter and WhatsApp chats from 2016, which showed she was a corp member who wooed him, visited him, cajoled him to have sex. Still, the guy wasn't interested in taking it further because she was a catfish who didn't look one-fifteenth as the edited pictures she had on Twitter. It went viral as "Lekki to Ajah" on Twitter that year.

I've stated over the years on this platform, I still have WhatsApp chats from 2013 and follow up on every call a lady makes wanting to spend time with me, with a WhatsApp chat or recorded call to protect myself from false accusations.

Amber Heard ruined Johnny Depp's life with false rape accusation but no prison time for her. Jay Z is battling for his life due to false rape accusations.

If you can build a solid case of misappropriation of public funds as Akwa Ibom Governor against Akpabio, I'd support you and even provide evidence to strengthen your case. But on this Natasha issue, Akpabio is right. FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS SHOULD CARRY THE SAME PENALTY AS RAPE. Too many men have been destroyed.

That she might have accused someone wrongly in the past is not enough reason to term her accusations "wrong" this time around.

This is not the first time akpabio was being accused of sexual harassment either. What reasonable senate should have done is to give a fair hearing to both sides and not this shenanigans that they displayed the other time. We all know every senator there has been cajoled by goons above.

I'm not much concern because she has the court to determine the legality or otherwise of her suspension. We have seen this before, definitely, this will not be last.

reccy:
That she might have accused someone wrongly in the past is not enough reason to term her accusations "wrong" this time around.

This is not the first time akpabio is being accused of sexual harassment either. What reasonable senate should have done is to give a fair hearing to both sides and not this shenanigans that they displayed the other time. We all know every senator there has been cajoled by goons above.

I'm not much concern because she has the court to determine the legality or otherwise of her suspension. We have seen this before, definitely, this will not be last.

[color=royalblue] Might ke?

The person she accused was not even in the country, and wasn't even close to the venue where she claimed he harassed her. This is the person you are carrying a sword and shield for?

The fact that we are even having a conversation about which of them is wrong, is also part of Nigeria's problem.

Two well known frauds and liars na him una dey find who dey talk true?
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reccy:
That she might have accused someone wrongly in the past is not enough reason to term her accusations "wrong" this time around.

This is not the first time akpabio is being accused of sexual harassment either. What reasonable senate should have done is to give a fair hearing to both sides and not this shenanigans that they displayed the other time. We all know every senator there has been cajoled by goons above.

I'm not much concern because she has the court to determine the legality or otherwise of her suspension. We have seen this before, definitely, this will not be last.

Might? You've lost me on this.

If you were a woman who is by default ruled by sentiments I wouldn't even bother arguing but you are a man who by nature is given to logic. Shed off your sentimentality.

Look at the facts. Are you following the Jay Z case of a woman who claimed he harrassed her only to drop it when he insisted she back up he claims with evidence?

So just because the men here joke about mentoring - I love beautiful women too - means they go about harrassing women? So being a polygynist automatically makes you a sexual harasser of women?

Ned Nwoko is an unabashed polygamist and TuBaba has a song where his opening line is about being straightforward about loving and wanting women. Does it make both of them sexual harassers by default? Should we believe any woman who accuses Tu Baba and Ned Nwoko of sexual harassment WITHOUT evidence because they are supposedly womanizers?

Shed off your sentimentality. And I don't like the difficult position of defending Akpabio. I like to accuse him every other day.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Might ke?

The person she accused was not even in the country, and wasn't even close to the venue where she claimed he harassed her. This is the person you are carrying a sword and shield for?

The fact that we are even having a conversation about which of them is wrong, is also part of Nigeria's problem.

Two well known frauds and liars na him una dey find who dey talk true?
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Did she not issue a rebuttal to Wendell Slimin's statement that he was out of the country?

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Might ke?

The person she accused was not even in the country, and wasn't even close to the venue where she claimed he harassed her. This is the person you are carrying a sword and shield for?

The fact that we are even having a conversation about which of them is wrong, is also part of Nigeria's problem.

Two well known frauds and liars na him una dey find who dey talk true?
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Lol, one person dhe talk true shaa.... But it's difficult to judge!

DissTroy:
Might? You've lost me on this.

If you were a woman who is by default ruled by sentiments I wouldn't even bother arguing but you are a man who by nature is given to logic. Shed off your sentimentality.

Look at the facts. Are you following the Jay Z case of a woman who claimed he harrassed her only to drop it when he insisted she back up he claims with evidence?

So just because the men here joke about mentoring - I love beautiful women too - means they go about harrassing women? So being a polygynist automatically makes you a sexual harasser of women?

Ned Nwoko is an unabashed polygamist and TuBaba has a song where his opening line is about being straightforward about loving and wanting women. Does it make both of them sexual harassers by default? Should we believe any woman who accuses Tu Baba and Ned Nwoko of sexual harassment WITHOUT evidence because they are supposedly womanizers?

Shed off your sentimentality. And I don't like the difficult position of defending Akpabio. I like to accuse him every other day.

The previous case was more than merely joking with foul words.
This is someone that was known as using force, power and position to intimidate, harassing young ladies.


When you are known as a chronicle liar, womanizer, that goes about harassing ladies every eke market, such seat, as senate president , is above your morality.

To even think the man was a judge on his own case, refused to temporarily step down and launch an investigation over the accusations is, itself, a gross violation of standard protocol.

izzou:
[color=royalblue] Might ke?

The person she accused was not even in the country, and wasn't even close to the venue where she claimed he harassed her. This is the person you are carrying a sword and shield for?

The fact that we are even having a conversation about which of them is wrong, is also part of Nigeria's problem.

Two well known frauds and liars na him una dey find who dey talk true?
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No sir, for the fact that we are trying to infer the truth from the accusations made helps us to put public officials accountable for their actions and also Ensuring Justice is served.


Let those responsible for any wrongdoing be held accountable and not the other way round.

Theflint1:
Did she not issue a rebuttal to Wendell Slimin's statement that he was out of the country?

Lies! Reno posted British Airways tickets and exact dates of all events to show he wasn't in the country nor did he attend the said dinner event she claimed he harassed her at. She let the issue slide then in 2019 even when Reno kept calling her out.

We might all dislike Reno Omokri now but there was a time he was the darling of the opposition. Revisionism of past events based on what you feel about a person now doesn't make the happenings less of a truth.

Natasha goes around weaponizing sexual assault accusations when she falls out with any man. She might be interested in contesting for Governor of Kogi soon and somehow this has saved every other male contestant or party official against her from being falsely accused in the future.

God knows I'd have pressed for criminal charges. Libel, injury to person and a few other criminal charges should apply here. One high profile Nigerian woman has to be jailed to deter women who falsely accuse.

And if you know what's good for you, start going through social media and pruning or restricting personal interactions with any female who is championing this Natasha case. You might be their next victim. I've already started doing so.

This was where it came to a head, and it was reported on Nairaland.

A girl posted she wanted to be Reno Omokri's sugar bae. Reno rebuffed the random girl with his usual sanctimonious rebuttal.
Natasha Akpoti who was relatively unknown country-wide jumped in to attack Reno for turning down the girl then accused him of wooing her: https://www.nairaland.com/6801262/lady-call-out-reno-omokri.

Reno defended himself with evidence and instead of pressing on, Natasha Akpoti did the usual giveaway Nigerian popular people do to erase their mstakes while making a joke of the whole issue that she's "unbreakable" and "Nokia 3310" to play the emotional blackmail card when her lies were found out: https://www.nairaland.com/6801055/natasha-set-celebrate-new-nokia .


He followed up by offering money ($50,000) to anyone who could provide a picture of him at the said Aso Rock Dinner Natasha claimed he harassed her: https://www.nairaland.com/6806516/omokri-offers-50k-photo-him#106811511 . He was a Presidential Media Aide so there's no way he wouldn't have been seen if he was at the event. Nobody came forward; not even Buhari's image makers who háted his guts.

This is the Jezebel TheFlint1 wants a man to be hanged for because he doesn't like him. The same way many men have been lynched by people who didn't like them under the pretext of defending women without concrete evidence.

Like Oasis usually surmises, we all know what we are doing. But life would come full circle and you might have to battle false sexual assault claims or watch men close to you get taken down by it.

What happened to even give a sense of fair hearing Arranging your goons to investigate your case and preside over such case will always devoid of transparency and should not be taken serious by any sane person.


Time shall tell......

reccy:
No sir, for the fact that we are trying to infer the truth from the accusations made helps us to put public officials accountable for their actions and also Ensuring Justice is served.


Let those responsible for any wrongdoing be held accountable and not the other way round.

[color=royalblue]There are over 2 million issues with Nigeria that should be your headache; issues that you should really be asking about accountability

But it is the issue between two known liars that you are worried about.

Accountability is relative sha. I hope you find the one you seek.

As for me, they should take their nonsense issues and fcck off the Senate. [/color]

DissTroy:
Lies! Reno posted British Airways tickets and exact dates of all events to show he wasn't in the country nor did he attend the said dinner event she claimed he harassed her at. She let the issue slide then in 2019 even when Reno kept calling her out.

We might all dislike Reno Omokri now but there was a time he was the darling of the opposition. Revisionism of past events based on what you feel about a person now doesn't make the happenings less of a truth.

Natasha goes around weaponizing sexual assault accusations when she falls out with any man. She might be interested in contesting for Governor of Kogi soon and somehow this has saved every other male contestant or party official against her from being falsely accused in the future.

God knows I'd have pressed for criminal charges. Libel, injury to person and a few other criminal charges should apply here. One high profile Nigerian woman has to be jailed to deter women who falsely accuse.

And if you know what's good for you, start going through social media and pruning or restricting personal interactions with any female who is championing this Natasha case. You might be their next victim. I've already started doing so.

There in lies the problem. You called it rape earlier, and now sexual assault, but all along it's sexual harassment she claims victim of.

King Strawman...fire dey go

Amoto94 to avoid seun bot from banning you, put space when sharing links

DissTroy:
This was where it came to a head, and it was reported on Nairaland.

A girl posted she wanted to be Reno Omokri's sugar bae. Reno rebuffed the random girl with his usual sanctimonious rebuttal.
Natasha Akpoti who was relatively unknown country-wide jumped in to attack Reno for turning down the girl then accused him of wooing her: https://www.nairaland.com/6801262/lady-call-out-reno-omokri.

Reno defended himself with evidence and instead of pressing on, Natasha Akpoti did the usual giveaway Nigerian popular people do to erase their mstakes while making a joke of the whole issue that she's "unbreakable" and "Nokia 3310" to play the emotional blackmail card when her lies were found out: https://www.nairaland.com/6801055/natasha-set-celebrate-new-nokia .

He followed up by offering money ($50,000) to anyone who could provide a picture of him at the said Aso Rock Dinner Natasha claimed he harassed her: https://www.nairaland.com/6806516/omokri-offers-50k-photo-him#106811511 . He was a Presidential Media Aide so there's no way he wouldn't have been seen if he was at the event. Nobody came forward; not even Buhari's image makers who háted his guts.

This is the Jezebel TheFlint1 wants a man to be hanged for because he doesn't like him. The same way many men have been lynched by people who didn't like them under the pretext of defending women without concrete evidence.

Like Oasis usually surmises, we all know what we are doing. But life would come full circle and you might have to battle false sexual assault claims or watch men close to you get taken down by it.

Can you point to where I've said this should be done, or even suggested it?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]There are over 2 million issues with Nigeria that should be your headache; issues that you should really be asking about accountability

But it is the issue between two known liars that you are worried about.

Accountability is relative sha. I hope you find the one you seek.

As for me, they should take their nonsense issues and fcck off the Senate. [/color]

Suspending the senator representing me and my people is not worth discussing? You mean, all the bills she's currently working on, all the projects currently ongoing and numerous policies established for the betterment of my people being suspended doesn't worth discussing?


Let me get it clearly, do you mean I should spend my time discussing Federal Government while leaving out the senator that's closer to people that has undergone different projects in kogi central?

If that's not issue worth discussing, I wonder the issues that fall into your 2 millions.

https://www.nairaland.com/8361498/still-continue-serve-people-natasha#134432150

Against the culture of silence, intimidation and victim-shaming; my unjust suspension from the Nigerian Senate invalidates the principles of natural justice, fairness and equity.

The illegal suspension does not withdraw my legitimacy as a senator of the Federal Republic of Nigeria and I will continue to use my duly elected position to serve my constituents and country to the best of my ability till 2027 … and beyond.

Senator Natasha H Akpoti Uduaghan
Proudly Kogi Central,
Proudly Nigerian 🇳🇬

reccy:
Suspending the senator representing me and my people is not worth discussing? You mean, all the bills she's currently working on, all the projects currently ongoing and numerous policies established for the betterment of my people being suspended doesn't worth discussing?


Let me get it clearly, do you mean I should spend my time discussing Federal Government while leaving out the senator that's closer to people that has undergone different projects in kogi central?

If that's not issue worth discussing, I wonder the issues that fall into your 2 millions.

Izzou believes we have 2 million unique problems and Kogi Central ain't one...e no rate una

reccy:
Suspending the senator representing me and my people is not worth discussing? You mean, all the bills she's currently working on, all the projects currently ongoing and numerous policies established for the betterment of my people being suspended doesn't worth discussing?


Let me get it clearly, do you mean I should spend my time discussing Federal Government while leaving out the senator that's closer to people that has undergone different projects in kogi central?

If that's not issue worth discussing, I wonder the issues that fall into your 2 millions.

[color=royalblue]Keep discussing, my brother [/color]

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Keep discussing, my brother [/color]

K

Theflint1:
Izzou believes we have 2 million unique problems and Kogi Central ain't one...e no rate una

I'm surprised by his takes!

Anyway, everyone to his kettle

This no be bad belle oo but genuine question....All this sand filling lagos are doing around water bodies,shey e no go get adverse effect like this?

Make one day we go see island or the whole Lagos dey under water

Amigoss:
This no be bad belle oo but genuine question....All this sand filling lagos are doing around water bodies,shey e no go get adverse effect like this?

Make one day we go see island or the whole Lagos dey under water

Of course it will have effect
They are just enjoying bar beach area a little now when water was pursuing people from their homes, Eko Atlantic is a ghost land up till now
Mega city indeed

iamoyindamola:
Of course it will have effect
They are just enjoying bar beach area a little now when water was pursuing people from their homes, Eko Atlantic is a ghost land up till now
Mega city indeed

Yeah I remember that time,many people run come mainland then,homes were flooded...