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anybody have his contact?

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

I disagree. Even though I am not igbo I love the igbo apprenticeship scheme that is now an economic culture for them.appretincehip is someone allowing you to use his Buisness to gain experience for a couple of years and still pay you off after you get the experience and expertise. I mean that is a fair deal.

Meaning all the financial mistakes, pitfalls and ignorance that you will have done and used to destroy your own Buisness, you have learnt in running another person's Buisness. I mean if u look at it objectively the oga is doing the apprentice a favour because if you go to the university for 4years to study a course, will the university give you money to start up your own Buisness abi them go help you look for job?

It's because a lot of apprentice in nigeria have an exploitative mindset that's why they always want to cheat their oga at the end of the day short change themselves. Who are you doing ,your oga or yourself

ikaboy:
For those who care to know, is not all about the money but the contacts, knowledge and experience in that 7 years. it's worth more than 50M.

These are typically the words of criminals who parade themselves as bosses.

You can spend that 7 years in a proper company or factory, earn your money in full, and still gain those extras (contacts, knowledge, and experience).

Any Igbo apprenticeship system that comes without a contractual agreement and pay in this century is fraudulent. Such bosses should be arrested and jailed for human rights abuses and forced labour or child labour (as applicable).

Many times, these nwa boys are not gaining any meaningful, transferable skills, apart from telling lies and luring people to pay for overvalued, overpriced, and sometimes fake items. That's not skill acquisition. Take that boy to a supermarket or mall where prices are clearly marked on each item, and you'll see a useless, clueless salesman.

If you must work like a slave without pay, at least, learn a proper skill like tailoring, plumbering, carpentry, catering, etc.

hafeeanubasy:
Additional knowledge include
How to cheat customers, How to produce fake products,how to augment your capital with carrying hard drugs and end up in Malaysia prison and where to get fake drugs to cell.

Na full package

Another idiot on the loose
If you are pained, you can go to hell. I don't think anybody gives a damn what your quasi empty skull is thinking

masterfactor:
Watch how some people from the east will come and defend this. This nwa boy system of apprenticeship needs to scrapped. It doesn't serve any purpose in this modern era, it just slavery.

mumu man, any body asked you to follow the trend, do what your ancestors thought you and leave igbos alone

Some of the reasons that determines how much you are settled is how the business thrives under your stewardship.

Another factor is theft or mismanagement under your stewardship. I know some owners are heartless but there are factors over the years of service that determines how much you get at the end of the day

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

Don't rush to comment on topics you barely have knowledge of.

The apprenticeship system is not about the amount they settle you.

Even if his boss doesn't settle him, provided he was humble enough to learn and his boss showed him most of his secrets, he will still make it sooner or later.

Many wholesalers he knew through his boss will readily give him goods on credit to sell then pay later.
Some of his Oga's customers will patronise him because some people would have preferred and trusted him at his oga's shop.
Some will hear about his poor settlement and also help him.
There are so many things I can't type here.

You cannot compare a tree that grew it's roots for seven years b4 germination to the one that grew within weeks.

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

we will letter hear he's a kidnapper

The mentality of this apprenticeship scheme that was the deal of its envy is being defeated by the dubious tactics of both parties... The apprentice wants to milk the boss dry before settlement and the boss too is waiting to shortchanged the apprentice. The modern social influences that is making the young ones believe that loyalty doesn't pay bills, shortcut to success (fraud and rituals) seems the major reasons this system is collapsing... I love the system but wish these people could take people of other tribes.

id4sho:
Many get nothing or accused of theft and humiliated then sacked 🤷

many of those boys are also wicked and desperate

AntiWailer:
How will the news make your father have stroke.

the boy is a born criminal. We know him

Opmic:
The apprenticeship has produced ten times more millionaires than the Nigerian civil service.
Kiss the real truth bro, not delusion

the guy you quoted is a well-known idiot on this forum. The primary reason he rushed to bad-mouth the apprentice system is because it's championed mostly by the Igbos. If it was a yoruba thing, you'll never see him make this comment

Gozie1884:
many of those boys are also wicked and desperate

Dem go chop you if you lose guard, many have ran with their masters money. One guy was given 5M to deposit in bank in 2021, dude disappeared till date.

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

Wee you keep quiet?
No one is trying to convince you of anything so just wrap yourself with your cloak of ignorance and keep your vapid opinions to yourself. Can you monetise the grace and intelligence, discipline and connections that it takes to turn around 500k and make it into millions? You go into apprenticeship first and foremost, to learn business. Learn it well and even without tangible capital, you will do well.

It is not how far but how well. It is better that your oga settle you with 100k from his heart and blessed you than giving you 20m and say that it will not be well with you.

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

You are just foaming in your mouth Mr man.

500k as of 2021 is not bad.

I started my business around that time with similar amount, and today I own a building, I don buy car, I am married, I have invested in people and still investing in them etc.

Although, some bosses are wicked or evil, there are many things involved.
Some of these apprentice are wicked or evil, some have committed many things during their stay and during their settlement is when the book or chapter will be open and many times their bosses will deduct the cost from their settlement money.

Some when they are close to settlement, their oga will open another branch or send them to another branch, get an apartment for them, and when it is time, they will check and balance everything, the cost of living during that period will be on his settlement and his settlement will be based on how he handled that business.

So, these things are longer and deeper than you know.

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

it's still better than Nigerian educatin system. at least you will acquire practical business skill

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

You don't know the truth. It's the opposite of slavery. It's an education. The best business degree in the country. For 7 years, you learn the workings of business, you understand marketing, networking, sales, bookkeeping and at the end, you are paid to replicate what you have learnt.
On the other hand, you take a business degree in the university of Ibadan, you pay a hefty fees, you have very little practical experience, zero networking experience and at the end, you keep writing application letters.
Who is the slave among the 2?
That is the truth you should embrace.

Acidosis:
These are typically the words of criminals who parade themselves as bosses.

You can spend that 7 years in a proper company or factory, earn your money in full, and still gain those extras (contacts, knowledge, and experience).

A 15 year old boy with no experience in life and education upto jss3 will work and earn in a 'proper' company..lol. That 5 to 7 yrs he's getting grilled in the trade is the same 5 to 7 years u spend in the university before u come out and start carrying files and filed out footwears looking for a job,while the now 20 yr old former apprentice is now already a boss ,and ready to take in an apprentice of his own.


Secondly do u know that ogas house is all found? Oga takes care of the boys,teach Dem other skills like driving all kinds of vehicles, obtaining licences for them,sometimes passports n visas.. oga looks after the boys family to some extent..like rendering financial help to the parents n siblings,getting involved in any ceremonies like burials,weddings etc in tge family...sending bags of rice and money during festive periods to the apprentices family.. while as a worker in this your proper factory u look after yourself completely.. one bout of malaria/ typhoid or appendicectomy can even wipe out your 6 months savings ..and ur oga go still dey wan sack u for unproductivity for that period of your debility

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.

-Kiss the truth!

Wrong Mentality!

Apprenticeship is not slavery....

Someone need to teach younger ones the secret of a business...

No shortcut to success...

He is successful cos of the apprenticeship training...

N500k is a seed to start something and grow from it .....

Learn from the parable of a dollar in the bible.

TimeManager:
https://www.legit.ng/people/1644085-man-served-oga-years-settled-n500k-dad-falls-sick-hearing-it/

Apprenticeship is slavery , I know someone who served his oga 9 good years he was settled with 1million naira for 9 good years, I will advice anybody going for this , rather you want to learn business, two years it's enough, work for your money and set yourself up , many that did apprenticeship were not settled at all what a waste of years, some never made it alive

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

.. there are people that invest and starts bussiness with 100k and still thrive and make it in that bussiness in future and become big entrepreneurs and successful businessmen in future ...so when one have the knowledge, skills, talent, passion for a particular bussinesses he will thrive and succeed in that bussiness.. no matter how small amount of money he invested in the bussiness

TimeManager:
You can't convince me otherwise, I will still stand on my point that this apprenticeship is slavery. If you check am well, he fit dey do one kind corner-corner doings to help himself. "Making it this big" sounds like a pressure on him with the burden of a dad lying down with stroke partly as a result of how his son's boss treated his son. He has to be responsible for his dad's treatment and also start a business with a meagre 500k. A lot of these boys are into Yahoo, powder business, & other stuff.



-Kiss the truth!

An agbero like you should have no opinion on money matters and Ibo apprenticeship.. It is beyond your brain grade..

Your own na to pursue Danfo buses, collect owomida in Mushin, drink Coco samba, ffuk women, rape little girls and come online to open your rotten Agbadorian mouth.. Mugu.

franvincoop:
Cosmas maduka was settled with 200naira.
Oga pls, Were u there?

Do I have to b there to know?

Gozie1884:
and you believed this lie from the pit of hell abi? We know the boy in question is a born criminal who stole millions from his boss and made every attempt to ruin his business. Don't believe everything you see or here on social media until you hears from his boss

except that...

dalass:
The experience he gathered in trading in those 7 years is worth millions of naira. An inexperienced trader will lose millions in an unknown business.

Also he earned that 500k for 7 years labour, his head must certainly be correct in using it judiciously. He could never have squandered it. Look at him now

Coscharis boss in his time settled him with #200!. His brother said he should accept it, but he took it because that's the reward for his many years labour, he's a billionaire today. Sometimes in business, experience/ business skill is more important than the amount of money

Coscharis got Govt contract due to connections. Not all nwa boys have got that kind of connections.

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but even the person who told you was also not there and the person who told the person who told you was also not there.

Ddeliverer007:
Do I have to b there to know?

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The most important thing is the network and connections he has built over the years.

No bank can give him the level of credit facilities he will get in the market if he is good.
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zero8zero:
Coscharis got Govt contract due to connections. Not all nwa boys have got that kind of connections.

And there are some who were settled with 4 decking buildings several worth several millions in Onitsha and Aba, yet they are paupers today.

Coscharis boss in his time settled him with #200!
Were u there?

dalass:
The experience he gathered in trading in those 7 years is worth millions of naira. An inexperienced trader will lose millions in an unknown business.

Also he earned that 500k for 7 years labour, his head must certainly be correct in using it judiciously. He could never have squandered it. Look at him now

Coscharis boss in his time settled him with #200!. His brother said he should accept it, but he took it because that's the reward for his many years labour, he's a billionaire today. Sometimes in business, experience/ business skill is more important than the amount of money

givedemwotowoto:
I would say the safest way of settling an apprentice is to be putting a portion of your profits in a separate account for the entire period of the apprenticeship, so that whether your business faces challenges or not, the settlement money is secure. Some people don’t understand this savings/financial system, and when it’s time to settle their apprentices, if their business is facing challenges at the time, they start telling stories.

Igbos have a reputation of being very successful with this apprenticeship style of business. People who want to use this type of settlement should understand how it’s done. It’s a similar principle to the retirement savings plans done in the US, UK and elsewhere

N500k was big money then at least it fetched US$1,150. Which is equivalent to N2 million now. Apprenticeship is best form of learning skill. This was how Igbo survived post-civil war economic doom and gaining of higher number of millionaires in igboland in 1980s and 1990s

Jamie248:
It is never slavery

You learn valuable business skills and get connected to honest suppliers and excellent lines of credit...this is the only advantage that Ibos have over you Yorubas that gives them the audacity to claim they're more hardworking and that y'all are lazy

It's all in the igba-boi programme, if not that y'all are too mentally lazy to figure it out

I'm not Yoruba but I tell you, this is more or less a slavery. See how his dad ended up with stroke. We have heard a lot of similar cases where the boys eventually ran away or return to the village for Oga refusal to settle them after years of serving him. The Yoruba system trains the apprentice for six months to one year and then he/she becomes the Oga of him/herself. The advantage to this is the fact that the Yoruba system allows them to go to school and then resume work after close of school unlike the Igbo system that mostly deprives them of education. The Igbo system separate those kids from their parents in the village and make them servitude to their ogas who uses them as he pleases.