₦airaland Forum

kingbee90:
The truth is most of them voted APC in 2015.

Forumites:
Abike Dey talk rubbish. Six of my friends are in UK today working and earning good. Make una no listen to this woman oh. Where her kids and relatives dey?

pansophist:
If you want to see suffering, enter UK without papers lol.

Try it.

Afolue:
rent for half of a one room abroad monthly is the price for a 2 bedroom flat yearly in africa is that contentment? Paying fo 24 hours electricity in a place where you barely stay at home how does that make sense?. Isn’t that a waste?. Organic foods abroad, natural foods in Africa, compare that! Abroad you work till you die, Africa you work when you decide to as long as you barely pay pressing bills. Isn’t that a blessing? You can’t loose a job abroad for one month straight, the person will sleep in the bridges under intense weather conditions but in Africa many are jobless but still yet have “roofs” over their heads. They shuttle as they like. Too many to talk about. God is great, no standard of life is useless totally. Tis why I said contentment is the wealth of nature. People in Africa, has priceless privileges.

If you’re sick abroad, you must go to hospital be it you have money or not but in Africa the herbs are there…

Think deeply…

Afolue:
many dey owe landlord up to 2 years rent for Africa, try am for one day for yankee if you fit!

Think deeply. …

Angelfrost:
You are the one saying that... I never even implied it.

Maybe it's your insecurity.

I stated facts... Maybe do some research.

Is it the over 80% of Nigerians struggling to feed that can Japa?!!

Why not check the number of Nigerian adults with passports first.

People wey never get passport na them wan relocate?!


Let me say it again... Abike Dabiri needs a proper job!

Hammering and focusing on less than 20% of our population relocating or planning to relocate while majority living here are struggling to survive makes no sense.

Please, try to stay on topic.

franchasng:
This is mostly applicable to Nigerians that migrated to UK via study route. UK can be frustrating, forget the fine pictures, that country was never structured to make migrants succeed, only fortunate ones with high in demand skills and physical strength succeed in UK.



Another country Nigerians always regret migrating to is Cyprus.


Avoid the below mentioned countries if you are a Nigerian that want to Japa abroad

Cyprus
South Africa
Spain
Turkey (except for buying things)
Vietnam
India
Russia
Philippines
Indonesia
Malaysia
Dubai
Lebanon
Libya
Morocco
Egypt

jocelynor:
are u living abroad

Saviola86:
This is one reason why I am never interested in japa


I am not rich but I am not hungry. I do not want a life of work work work every hour. I am big on family and spending quality time with my kids and wife. I do not what to goto a society where work will deprive me off my family because I need to pay for everything I use. Nigeria is bad but we are not hungry. Atleast I can still provide for my house and pay our bills. What is missing is luxury but the necessities are there. I am working really hard to get the luxuries but I am grateful for having the basics first.

I have seen friends travel abroad for greener pastures leaving their families behind. The closest one often cry in my DM everyday despite being gone for 3yrs now. It's a regret but he cannot come back empty handed because he sold almost everything.

The other friend after 5years in UK came back. Looking darker than he was and loss weight. He told me, he had to run back because the stress was too much. He was doing fine in Nigeria but decided to join the japa wave, going to do menial jobs, working in warehouses, taking care of old people etc when in Nigeria he was a big man with several workers. Thank God he didn't shut down his office, he had something to fall back to and decided to swallow pride and return home.

RadiantGlow:
Let them keep deceiving you. Many people are trying to hold you back in Nigeria, and most don’t even realize it. They’re using the story of a tiny 0.01% to push their narrative. Yes, you might struggle at first, but life here is far better than what you’ll find in Nigeria. For example, since I arrived, I haven’t had a single illness, unlike when I was back in Nigeria. What I earn in a day here is more than what I made in a whole month back home. Remember, you can always go back if things improve, but right now, it’s totally worth it. I taught at one of the best secondary schools while in Nigeria, but here, I’m inundated with job offers as a maths teacher. Many people there won’t stop pestering you for financial help, all while deceiving you and trying to stop you from seeking greener pastures. I could go on, but…

kingjoe:
please why did you mention spain.i was planning to go there next year

Shikena:
Absolutely.

Just reading very funny clueless comments here. Most of these guys can't even afford the japa to a decent place and those that could are not mentally strong enough for the first few years of settling down abroad. Then we have those that are truly well established sustainaby in Nigeria, they can even live in a remote village and create real comfort there, so japa is irrelevant.

Even within Nigeria, we have those in the villages who got better opportunities to leave for Abuja, Lagos, Port Harcourt etc but will come up with a thousand and one excuses to stay within their comfort zone and later in life have their children cursing them out or detest them for being too laid back. This is very common

Mrfeel:
Let everyone try their luck first

Shikena:
Isn’t that an indication of something you should think about?

Shikena:
Half education is far worse than total ignorance.

You only compiled a list based on age-long stereotypes mostly irrelevant in many places today.

Be specific. Where is the abroad that you just described? Which countries?

Afolue:
rent for half of a one room abroad monthly is the price for a 2 bedroom flat yearly in africa is that contentment? Paying fo 24 hours electricity in a place where you barely stay at home how does that make sense?. Isn’t that a waste?. Organic foods abroad, natural foods in Africa, compare that! Abroad you work till you die, Africa you work when you decide to as long as you barely pay pressing bills. Isn’t that a blessing? You can’t loose a job abroad for one month straight, the person will sleep in the bridges under intense weather conditions but in Africa many are jobless but still yet have “roofs” over their heads. They shuttle as they like. Too many to talk about. God is great, no standard of life is useless totally. Tis why I said contentment is the wealth of nature. People in Africa, has priceless privileges.

If you’re sick abroad, you must go to hospital be it you have money or not but in Africa the herbs are there…

Think deeply…

Angelfrost:
Great points...However, what you stated clearly underscores why there is a welfare state in Nigeria and a clearly unsustainable trajectory for the leaders and citizens.

1. A country where people can afford necessities even without jobs is either a wealthy nation subsidising for her citizens or a poor nation taking loans to mask realities.
We both know where Nigeria belongs.

2. If Tinubu has the boldness and unfailing ruthlessness to push this nation out of stagnacy and daydreaming, depression and suicide will skyrocket... Poverty will be off the roof.

3. Read up the meaning of "Black Tax", and understand why many are not truly living in Nigeria... A lot of people are just one bereavement away from becoming homeless and beggars.
Living at the mercy and generosity of families, friends and even strangers is not the way to live as individuals and as a people.

4. Where are the jobs in Nigeria?!! Who is creating them?!! What industries and investments are springing up?!! The last time we had major investments was under Jonathan... Most of them have even shut down and left.

If nothing drastic is done in this nation in terms of the economy, things might get perilous.

Now, the above might not apply to you if you are lucky to be gainfully employed (the numbers are shrinking by the day)... But don't kid yourself! Your standard of living shrinks with each spike in living cost as we have been experiencing for years now.


Some of the people doing japa have looked into the nation's future and the uncertainty they saw made them decide to take a chance.

Afolue:
well said. But we must not all put our burden on the government. The I must go to the university syndrome has ruined many lives including me speaking. Handwork is the way to go home and abroad. I mean skills! But due to pride and competition amongst peer groups including envy and jealousy has reduce everyone to be dependent on govt. related jobs after graduation.

Self independence pays home and abroad equally.

Africa has damn untold privileges that are priceless.

Beat traffic abroad, one will be made to pay a fine that will make you to park the car for good. Another tinge of example!

Afolue:
all countries in continents doing well, including many African countries doing well too.

You’re obviously not well informed.

Are you a diaspora or you have once been.? If not, stop embarrassing yourself here. Those who knows what am talking about knows very well and can relate vividly!

Angelfrost:
Absolutely... Personally, I have never been able to fully grasp the lure or hype about abroad.

As adults, restarting in another nation where you don't have roots makes no sense.

For a lot of japarians, it's just the fear of missing out and the uncertainty around Nigeria's future that fuel their relocation.

Whether we are industrious or interested in informal work, poor leadership still goes a long way... Look at the state of insecurity for instance.

If we solved insecurity alone today, japa rate would reduce massively.


Like I said earlier, Japa is not the consideration of underprivileged Nigerians... It's only the well educated with the financial backing that actually consider it.

Angelfrost:
Great points...However, what you stated clearly underscores why there is a welfare state in Nigeria and a clearly unsustainable trajectory for the leaders and citizens.

1. A country where people can afford necessities even without jobs is either a wealthy nation subsidising for her citizens or a poor nation taking loans to mask realities.
We both know where Nigeria belongs.

2. If Tinubu has the boldness and unfailing ruthlessness to push this nation out of stagnacy and daydreaming, depression and suicide will skyrocket... Poverty will be off the roof.

3. Read up the meaning of "Black Tax", and understand why many are not truly living in Nigeria... A lot of people are just one bereavement away from becoming homeless and beggars.
Living at the mercy and generosity of families, friends and even strangers is not the way to live as individuals and as a people.

4. Where are the jobs in Nigeria?!! Who is creating them?!! What industries and investments are springing up?!! The last time we had major investments was under Jonathan... Most of them have even shut down and left.

If nothing drastic is done in this nation in terms of the economy, things might get perilous.

Now, the above might not apply to you if you are lucky to be gainfully employed (the numbers are shrinking by the day)... But don't kid yourself! Your standard of living shrinks with each spike in living cost as we have been experiencing for years now.


Some of the people doing japa have looked into the nation's future and the uncertainty they saw made them decide to take a chance.

Shikena:
Well stated. You have to define your personal priorities. Also we are defined by our personal experiences.

What I address is the ignorance of our people when it comes to living in other places

Angelfrost:
Sir, it's the stupidity of too much privilege, in my opinion.

Why destroy a firm and solid foundation to chase phantoms?!!

Not against trying for dual citizenship, but at the very least, they should have a fall back option or backup plan, not burning bridges in Nigeria thinking there's a promised land abroad.

Prince111111:
That is for minority please I know my monthly pay in Naira. You want to kid with pounds 😂😂😂

Angelfrost:
True that!

Another key thing is ADAPTABILITY.

Anyone who can't adapt easily within or across Nigeria should never relocate abroad even if he has all the resources at his disposal.

Eagleways:
two people I know in UK , don't know even know where their certs are. What they have done in just a year is what they couldn't have done in ten years if they had stayed back

Afolue:
rent for half of a one room abroad monthly is the price for a 2 bedroom flat yearly in africa is that contentment? Paying fo 24 hours electricity in a place where you barely stay at home how does that make sense?. Isn’t that a waste?. Organic foods abroad, natural foods in Africa, compare that! Abroad you work till you die, Africa you work when you decide to as long as you barely pay pressing bills. Isn’t that a blessing? You can’t loose a job abroad for one month straight, the person will sleep in the bridges under intense weather conditions but in Africa many are jobless but still yet have “roofs” over their heads. They shuttle as they like. Too many to talk about. God is great, no standard of life is useless totally. Tis why I said contentment is the wealth of nature. People in Africa, has priceless privileges.

If you’re sick abroad, you must go to hospital be it you have money or not but in Africa the herbs are there…

Think deeply…

lagonovo:
Ok, let's think deeply. I think I have a very good global indicator for what you are trying to portray with mere feeling and not actual facts. It's called Life Expectancy.

The indicator often measured as "life expectancy at birth", represents the average number of years a newborn is expected to live, assuming current mortality rates remain constant throughout their life. This metric is widely used to assess the overall health and quality of life in different countries.

You can explore it and other relevant data by country on this WHO link: https://data.who.int/countries/

This will help you understand what we are telling you using available data instead of feelings and assumptions.