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Pray about it, then take action

Fri, 14 Mar 2025

‘So they began this good work.’ Nehemiah 2:18

There is a time to pray, and there is a time to take action. Sometimes that means filling out the job application, or getting your finances in order, or setting up the appointment, or having the conversation, or making the move. American pastor Peter Marshall said: ‘I wonder what would happen if we all agreed to read one of the Gospels until we came to a place that told us to do something, then went out to do it, and only after we had done it, began reading again? There are aspects of the Gospel that are puzzling and difficult to understand. But our problems are not centred around the things we don’t understand, but rather the things we do understand … Our problem is not so much that we don’t know what we should do. We know perfectly well, but we don’t want to do it.’

One of the big mistakes we make is requesting God to do for us what God wants us to do for Him. Before God parted the waters of the Jordan River to allow the Israelites to enter Canaan, He told the priests to take a few steps into the river. Why did God do it that way? Maybe it was because He wanted to know if they had enough faith to get their feet wet. As long as your feet are planted on dry ground, God won’t part the river for you. You say, ‘I’m waiting for God to move.’ Perhaps God is waiting for you to step out in faith and make the first move. If so, the word for you today is—take action.

@ALISMILE
You said:
Growing up I was a Christian

I have been a Muslim for the better of 25yrs now, and I regret those years before that I wasn’t Muslim

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world by all standards. And it is for many reasons!




Why?
Is it just because Islam is the fastest growing religion?
Is it because Islam gives you a guarantee of paradise?

TenQ:
@ALISMILE
You said:
Growing up I was a Christian

I have been a Muslim for the better of 25yrs now, and I regret those years before that I wasn’t Muslim

Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world by all standards. And it is for many reasons!

Why?
Is it just because Islam is the fastest growing religion?
Is it because Islam gives you a guarantee of paradise?

Islam is spreading because it’s the only logical religion that provides logical answers to every question, and also because it is the only religion that is able to withstand any objective scrutiny by all the standards

ALISMILE:
Islam is spreading because it’s the only logical religion that provides logical answers to every question, and also because it is the only religion that is able to withstand any objective scrutiny by all the standards

What is logical with Islam?
(because I find it thoroughly illogical)


Let me give you a basic example with Allah alone:
1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
2. Allah is not Omnipresent
3. Allah is not Omniscient
4. Allah is not Omnipotent

How can this be God?


Secondly, Islam CANNOT withstand any objective scrutiny of its doctrines and thus lies has to be conjured to prop up Islam.
1. Are their errors in the Qur'an?
2. Muslims commit shirk by Glorifying Mohammed with Allah
3. Is the Holy Spirit Jibril?


Thus, you may have been deceived into the religion of Islam.

I can give you proofs of any of my claims above!

ALISMILE:
Islam is spreading because it’s the only logical religion that provides logical answers to every question, and also because it is the only religion that is able to withstand any objective scrutiny by all the standards

What does the Koran say about how our world can be peaceful?

ALISMILE:
Islam is spreading because it’s the only logical religion that provides logical answers to every question, and also because it is the only religion that is able to withstand any objective scrutiny by all the standards

It's not spreading because of logic but rather your people are chunking out babies here and there!

Advantages of a polygamous marriage!!! 👀

Gabrielshow24:
It's not spreading because of logic but rather your people are chunking out babies here and there!

Advantages of a polygamous marriage!!! 👀

According to Pew research, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world- conversion rate

Western laws prohibit polygamy yet Islam is still the fastest growing in the western world

Truthseeker10:
What does the Koran say about how our world can be peaceful?

It says that everyone should be left to practice their religion

However, historical records shows that Christians both past and present cannot endure to see a Muslim country prosper!
So they invade Muslim countries with their war machines
Happed in Iraq
Happened in Libya
Happened in Afghanistan
Happening now in Syria, etc

TenQ:
What is logical with Islam?
(because I find it thoroughly illogical)


Let me give you a basic example with Allah alone:
1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
2. Allah is not Omnipresent
3. Allah is not Omniscient
4. Allah is not Omnipotent

How can this be God?


Secondly, Islam CANNOT withstand any objective scrutiny of its doctrines and thus lies has to be conjured to prop up Islam.
1. Are their errors in the Qur'an?
2. Muslims commit shirk by Glorifying Mohammed with Allah
3. Is the Holy Spirit Jibril?


Thus, you may have been deceived into the religion of Islam.

I can give you proofs of any of my claims above!

The difference between the us and you is that we have facts to back up our argument

You said a lot without giving a single reference to back up your allegations against Islam, and you expect not to be ignored next time!

ALISMILE:
The difference between the us and you is that we have facts to back up our argument

You said a lot without giving a single reference to back up your allegations against Islam, and you expect not to be ignored next time!

Do you want me to prove each one AND are you ready to accept facts as I present them?

I made claims, will you accept the truth when I show you ?

ALISMILE:
It says that everyone should be left to practice their religion

However, historical records shows that Christians both past and present cannot endure to see a Muslim country prosper!
So they invade Muslim countries with their war machines
Happed in Iraq
Happened in Libya
Happened in Afghanistan
Happening now in Syria, etc

So are you trying to tell me that the recipe of the Koran for world wide peace is not working?

Truthseeker10:
So are you trying to tell me that the recipe of the Koran for world wide peace is not working?

Reading your comment, three things are sure: Maybe you didn’t it
Maybe you don’t know how to read
Maybe you read but couldn’t comprehend what you read!

None of the above is is a fault of mine, so I will let you pass

ALISMILE:
It says that everyone should be left to practice their religion

However, historical records shows that Christians both past and present cannot endure to see a Muslim country prosper!
So they invade Muslim countries with their war machines
Happed in Iraq
Happened in Libya
Happened in Afghanistan
Happening now in Syria, etc

Really 🥲.
There's evidence to the contrary.

ALISMILE:
According to Pew research, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world- conversion rate

Western laws prohibit polygamy yet Islam is still the fastest growing in the western world

That's a lie!!!
It's rather to due birth rate; nothing more, nothing less!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Really 🥲.
There's evidence to the contrary.

Are you okay?
Evidence that what?
That the Christian west didn’t invade Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya?
They would have since invaded Iran if not for retaliatory destruction

ALISMILE:
Are you okay?
Evidence that what?
That the Christian west didn’t invade Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya?
They would have since invaded Iran if not for retaliatory destruction

Again,
Do you want me to prove each one AND are you ready to accept facts as I present them?

I made claims, will you accept the truth when I show you ?

TenQ:
Again,
Do you want me to prove each one AND are you ready to accept facts as I present them?

I made claims, will you accept the truth when I show you ?

Someone who has facts doesn’t have to act like a child

Facts are stubborn things. It moves you.

ALISMILE:
Someone who has facts doesn’t have to act like a child

Facts are stubborn things. It moves you.

Okay!

Let's pick my first claim then: starting with the Yardstick of determination of truth
1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

TenQ:
Okay!

Let's pick my first claim then: starting with the Yardstick of determination of truth
1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

@ALISMILE

I can see that ignorance is a bliss for you!
You were NEVER even once a Christian otherwise, you would want knowledge. Stop telling lies about

Please keep it up. Islam is the fastest religion in Mars!

Gabrielshow24:
It's not spreading because of logic but rather your people are chunking out babies here and there!

Advantages of a polygamous marriage!!! 👀

Then pray/entreat/plead with/to Yahweh/Jehovah/Jesus/Holy Spooky Spirit to make their women barren and their men impotent nah.

Problem solved.

TenQ:
Okay!

Let's pick my first claim then: starting with the Yardstick of determination of truth
1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

Sebi Moses saw Jehovah backside?

How big is it?

Is Allah a woman that he has to put on a veil/hijab to speak to Mohammed?
Is Allah being shy?

Lukuluku69:
Sebi Moses saw Jehovah backside?

How big is it?

The God of the Christians can enter His creation without ceasing to be Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient.

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be almighty?

Why escape the question?

1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

TenQ:
Is Allah a woman that he has to put on a veil/hijab to speak to Mohammed?
Is Allah being shy?


The God of the Christians can enter His creation without ceasing to be Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient.

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be almighty?

Why escape the question?

1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

Of course Allah has a Shape that befits His Majesty.

Allah has eyes that befits His Majesty.

Now, tell me how big was Yahweh backside when Moses saw it

TenQ:
Is Allah a woman that he has to put on a veil/hijab to speak to Mohammed?
Is Allah being shy?


The God of the Christians can enter His creation without ceasing to be Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient.

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be almighty?

Why escape the question?

1. Allah is a physical being and not a spirit
Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

Does Allah then have a shape?

The Malady never stop.

I know your Jehovah enters anything and everything.

He has been heard to come down to drink Tea and eat Sausages with some men of God.

Lol

Stop with All these Blasphemous stuff you are putting out. Your Head is not correct one tiny bit.

But it is a supposedly free world. You can do as it pleases you. The Old Testament Priests would have deleted your sorry self for the nonsense you post on here about The Supreme Deity.

My God is IN EVERYTHING: this is why He is OMNIPRESENT!

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be almighty?

Lukuluku69:
Of course Allah has a Shape that befits His Majesty.

Allah has eyes that befits His Majesty.

Now, tell me how big was Yahweh backside when Moses saw it

No problem then Allah is a physical being!

I challenge you to show me your precise definition of the word backside for the word doesn't exist in the bible.
Then I can describe it to you!



Unfortunately, Your God seems to be "born" defective as he has two right hands and no left hand. Is this normal for Allah?

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."






Tell me, exactly as your question is:
How long and big are the two right hands of Allah?

TenQ:
@ALISMILE

I can see that ignorance is a bliss for you!
You were NEVER even once a Christian otherwise, you would want knowledge. Stop telling lies about

Please keep it up. Islam is the fastest religion in Mars!

May God punish me if I was never Christian but claiming I once was!

I only ignored you because I know you have no fact to present! If you had fact you would provide them immediately rather than blabbing

ALISMILE:
Islam is spreading because it’s the only logical religion that provides logical answers to every question, and also because it is the only religion that is able to withstand any objective scrutiny by all the standards

So, logically speaking
1. Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

2. Does Allah then have a shape?

ALISMILE:
The difference between the us and you is that we have facts to back up our argument

You said a lot without giving a single reference to back up your allegations against Islam, and you expect not to be ignored next time!

Let me help you with just one as you are a liar and never converted from Christianity!



Evidences
1. Did Allah create Adam in his own Image?
Yes! Adams face looked like that of Allah and he is probably 60 cubits tall.

Is Adam physical or metaphysical?

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525
He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”

Sahih Muslim 2612 e
This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Abu Huraira and in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Ibn Hatim Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) is reported to have said:
When any one of you fights with his brother, he should avoid his face for Allah created Adam in His own image.

Sahih Muslim 2841
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day.

Note that the resemblance of Adam to Allah was described in terms of Adam's FACE and Adam's HEIGHT


2. Does Allah have a Shape?
Yes! He would appear to you Muslims in another shape after resurrection.


Sahih al-Bukhari 7439
Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, [/b]and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, [b]'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.


Allah even has a Shin by which you will identify him and he will uncover it for you .

Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, "I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire."

3. Does Allah have a form?
Yes! Allah has two right hands
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."




So, tell me if Allah doesn't have a shape. If he has a shape then he is physical!

Lukuluku69:
Then pray/entreat/plead with/to Yahweh/Jehovah/Jesus/Holy Spooky Spirit to make their women barren and their men impotent nah.

Problem solved.

What for?
By their fruits you shall know them🤨

ALISMILE:
May God punish me if I was never Christian but claiming I once was!

The true God doesn't answer this kind of prayer!

TenQ:
So, logically speaking
1. Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

2. Does Allah then have a shape?


Let me help you with just one as you are a liar and never converted from Christianity!



Evidences
1. Did Allah create Adam in his own Image?
Yes! Adams face looked like that of Allah and he is probably 60 cubits tall.

Is Adam physical or metaphysical?

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525
He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”

Sahih Muslim 2612 e
This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Abu Huraira and in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Ibn Hatim Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) is reported to have said:
When any one of you fights with his brother, he should avoid his face for Allah created Adam in His own image.

Sahih Muslim 2841
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day.

Note that the resemblance of Adam to Allah was described in terms of Adam's FACE and Adam's HEIGHT


2. Does Allah have a Shape?
Yes! He would appear to you Muslims in another shape after resurrection.


Sahih al-Bukhari 7439
Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, [/b]and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, [b]'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.


Allah even has a Shin by which you will identify him and he will uncover it for you .

Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, "I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire."

3. Does Allah have a form?
Yes! Allah has two right hands
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."




So, tell me if Allah doesn't have a shape. If he has a shape then he is physical!

The guy doesn't know what he is talking about!
The Quran isn't logical, if anything at all it was made for primitive men🥲!

Now let's see, how he defends his Allah's shape👀

Gabrielshow24:
The guy doesn't know what he is talking about!
The Quran isn't logical, if anything at all it was made for primitive men🥲!

Now let's see, how he defends his Allah's shape👀

I have not even finished with him on the shape of Allah first.

Muslims scholars have to rewrite Islam to suit their preferred narrative even when they know that it's all a lie

TenQ:
My God is IN EVERYTHING: this is why He is OMNIPRESENT!

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be almighty?


No problem then Allah is a physical being!

I challenge you to show me your precise definition of the word backside for the word doesn't exist in the bible.
Then I can describe it to you!



Unfortunately, Your God seems to be "born" defective as he has two right hands and no left hand. Is this normal for Allah?

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."






Tell me, exactly as your question is:
How long and big are the two right hands of Allah?

Your "God" is EVERYTHING ko?

That means your "God" is also Satan, "He" is the Poo from your rear end also?

You are simply IRREDEEMABLE.