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Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 10:31am On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
Do I have to reprogram my car if I remove battery negative terminal whenever I'm carrying out maintenance, the only effect I noticed thereafter are radio and sound settings erasure, Except I didn't take notice of other things
Nop, not if you are putting back same batteries talking of replacing your old battery with a new one. If you have a good scan tool with programming ability, you will notice a section that says battery. Its part of the BDM module re-learn,
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 10:32am On Mar 15, 2025
2cribz:
Ita a digital wrench that beeps with a sound once thw engine bolts are tightened to a certain degree.just few meko have that tool. Once its tight,agh baba e don so quacks believe.
Well the digital one is on the high side, you can get the manual one, which you have to know how to set.it clicks.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 9icetoo(m): 10:42am On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
Do I have to reprogram my car if I remove battery negative terminal whenever I'm carrying out maintenance, the only effect I noticed thereafter are radio and sound settings erasure, Except I didn't take notice of other things
What make, model and year of car is this?

The answer to this question will determine the appropriate esponse.

However, see below.

Generally, if you are reinstalling the same battery, you do not need to reprogramme.

But for cars that do not require reprogramming (and yes there are multitudes of them), you don't need to bother yourself.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 9icetoo(m): 10:43am On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
The truth of the mater is that, I don't even know this and I have own a car since 2015.
I bought a new battery about weeks ago and the only thing I changed was my charging fuse when i keep getting charge error system check . I only upgraded the fuse to 15amp
Upgraded?

What fuse rating was there before?
What was the recommended fuse rating?

Which car is this?
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 10:44am On Mar 15, 2025
jceesquare:
In the context of the discussion, you do not need to reprogram your battery management system (if your car is equipped with one) when you disconnect the negative terminal.
You should reprogram when you replace an old battery with a new one so the ECU commands the alternator to charge it properly.
Thank you someone got the Gist at the End, I don't know why bro upstairs is struggling with this one.Bro this is where the road side Merch kills your car, cos all of a sudden you car can go to limp mode or smoke cos your fuel air mix ratio is thrown into kaumatuas, check Engine light on etc, they will diagnose running stomach into cancer. Unless someone who knows what they are doing with a good programmer investigate, the problem will multiply.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 10:50am On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
The truth of the mater is that, I don't even know this and I have own a car since 2015.
I bought a new battery about weeks ago and the only thing I changed was my charging fuse when i keep getting charge error system check . I only upgraded the fuse to 15amp
Your car needs its BCM and Charge management system re programmed, its a 5 mins job with the right tool. The fact that your car has a charging fuse, it means it has a charge management system. The charge system learn the state of your battery and charges as such, hence its called intelligent charge management system if you diagnose its code. In an ordinary man word, your car is charging your new battery like the Old one but the system is receiving voltage of a new full battery.SO what the programming does is tell the charging system that this is a new battery charge it as such, its that basic and simple.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 12:38pm On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
The truth of the mater is that, I don't even know this and I have own a car since 2015.
I bought a new battery about weeks ago and the only thing I changed was my charging fuse when i keep getting charge error system check . I only upgraded the fuse to 15amp
Please replace that fuse with the original Amp, do not UP it.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by jceesquare(m): 12:43pm On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
The truth of the mater is that, I don't even know this and I have own a car since 2015.
I bought a new battery about weeks ago and the only thing I changed was my charging fuse when i keep getting charge error system check . I only upgraded the fuse to 15amp
What car are we talking about here?
erico2k2:
Your car needs its BCM and Charge management system re programmed, its a 5 mins job with the right tool. The fact that your car has a charging fuse, it means it has a charge management system. The charge system learn the state of your battery and charges as such, hence its called intelligent charge management system if you diagnose its code. In an ordinary man word, your car is charging your new battery like the Old one but the system is receiving voltage of a new full battery.SO what the programming does is tell the charging system that this is a new battery charge it as such, its that basic and simple.
Please stop. All cars have at least a fuse for the alternator, does not mean all cars receive voltage regultion command from the ECU.
You drive a BMW and I understand your obsession with this because it's compulsory, but not all cars require this.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by curiobling: 12:47pm On Mar 15, 2025
9icetoo:
What make, model and year of car is this?

The answer to this question will determine the appropriate esponse.

However, see below.

Generally, if you are reinstalling the same battery, you do not need to reprogramme.

But for cars that do not require reprogramming (and yes there are multitudes of them), you don't need to bother yourself.
Ford edge 2011
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 12:55pm On Mar 15, 2025
jceesquare:
What car are we talking about here?

Please stop. All cars have at least a fuse for the alternator, does not mean all cars receives commands from the ECU.
You drive a BMW and I understand your obsession with this because it's compulsory, but not all cars require this.
Calm down and just digest what I wrote, we get emotionally carried away sometimes that we lose focus on the subject matter,
try and look at what I wrote and do the research. On the battery terminals, There is a small black bos size of a matches box,. There is a Big fuse inside. I have seen most roadside mechanics take this out in the name of tropicalization. This is the fuse that controls the charge unit. I am talking of the Battery terminal fuse boss. All in that Pic are for Toyota cars.
NB,I think the last one is for BMW, cos it looks like mine Also you are wrong, you dont know me,I don't only drive a BMW, I also have two toyota brands, and a Land rover brand..The issue of charging is not limited to just BMWs.

Re: Car Talk Chat Room by jceesquare(m): 1:03pm On Mar 15, 2025
erico2k2:
Calm down and just digest what I wrote, we get emotionally carried away sometimes that we lose focus on the subject matter,
try and look at what I wrote and do the research. On the battery terminals, There is a small black bos size of a matches box,. There is a Big fuse inside. I have seen most roadside mechanics take this out in the name of tropicalization. This is the fuse that controls the charge unit. I am talking of the Battery terminal fuse boss. All in that Pic are for Toyota cars.
NB,I think the last one is for BMW, cos it looks like mine Also you are wrong, you dont know me,I don't only drive a BMW, I also have two toyota brands, and a Land rover brand..The issue of charging is not limited to just BMWs.
NOT ALL CARS HAVE THAT KIND OF TERMINALS and NOT ALL CARS REQUIRE HAVING THEIR BATTERY REPROGRAMMED WHEN YOU REPLACE THEM.
This thing no hard to understand na, why the back and forth on it nna?
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by curiobling: 1:06pm On Mar 15, 2025
9icetoo:
Upgraded?

What fuse rating was there before?
What was the recommended fuse rating?

Which car is this?
10amp was recommended and I continue to struggle with the check charge error even after I changed the battery. My rewire put 15amp which stopped the charge error but I asked it to be removed and follow recommended fuse rating calculation. After we removed it and put 10amp, the error message resurfaced. At this point I can't continue to stop and restart car as I used to do which was my self help to help clear the error message that will later pipped up after 5km drive was the reason I settled with the 15amp. However, The battery there is 75amp 12v ford edge v6 2011 the bigger size
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by curiobling: 1:14pm On Mar 15, 2025
jceesquare:
What car are we talking about here?

Please stop. All cars have at least a fuse for the alternator, does not mean all cars receive voltage regultion command from the ECU.
You drive a BMW and I understand your obsession with this because it's compulsory, but not all cars require this.
Yes my alternator fuse for this model is fuse 58 in the box arrangements
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by curiobling: 2:08pm On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
The storyline is that when the old battery wqs getting dead due to battery juice running dry i began to receive check charge error messsge but i didnt throw in on battery, i was attacking alternator which turns out the guy was innocent with 13.5v output. So i bought new battery but error charge wont go away. 10amp was recommended and I continue to struggle with the check charge error even after I changed the battery. However, i didnt do any reprogramming, My rewire put 15amp which stopped the charge error but I asked it to be removed and follow recommended fuse rating calculation. After we removed it and put 10amp, the error message resurfaced. At this point I can't continue to stop and restart car as I used to do which was my self help to help clear the error message that will later pipped up after 5km drive was the reason I settled with the 15amp. However, The battery there is 75amp 12v ford edge v6 2011 the bigger size
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 3:44pm On Mar 15, 2025
jceesquare:
NOT ALL CARS HAVE THAT KIND OF TERMINALS and NOT ALL CARS REQUIRE HAVING THEIR BATTERY REPROGRAMMED WHEN YOU REPLACE THEM.
This thing no hard to understand na, why the back and forth on it nna?
If you noticed, I deliberately said 2015 Up, I m not talking 2010 Camry, I said 2015 up U forgot that small details, now type in bold to tell me not all cars from 2015 need programming when battery is removed. You guys need to learn the correct ways of doing things instead of frying your car at the end.
This school of thought you are supporting is same as those quacks who will get a used Injector from another car and just plug it i n and not p program it, this is what Mechanics have turned to just cos they can not move with the times.
PS,I note how you ran away from the fotos I posted.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 3:50pm On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
10amp was recommended and I continue to struggle with the check charge error even after I changed the battery. My rewire put 15amp which stopped the charge error but I asked it to be removed and follow recommended fuse rating calculation. After we removed it and put 10amp, the error message resurfaced. At this point I can't continue to stop and restart car as I used to do which was my self help to help clear the error message that will later pipped up after 5km drive was the reason I settled with the 15amp. However, The battery there is 75amp 12v ford edge v6 2011 the bigger size
Bross go and program your battery with a dealer grade Diagnostic machine.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 9icetoo(m): 5:03pm On Mar 15, 2025
erico2k2:
Thank you someone got the Gist at the End, I don't know why bro upstairs is struggling with this one.Bro this is where the road side Merch kills your car, cos all of a sudden you car can go to limp mode or smoke cos your fuel air mix ratio is thrown into kaumatuas, check Engine light on etc, they will diagnose running stomach into cancer. Unless someone who knows what they are doing with a good programmer investigate, the problem will multiply.
No one is struggling.

Just you.

Stop being a dingbat. The ship has sailed.

Rest Mr torquewrench
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 9icetoo(m): 5:05pm On Mar 15, 2025
erico2k2:
Your car needs its BCM and Charge management system re programmed, its a 5 mins job with the right tool. The fact that your car has a charging fuse, it means it has a charge management system. The charge system learn the state of your battery and charges as such, hence its called intelligent charge management system if you diagnose its code. In an ordinary man word, your car is charging your new battery like the Old one but the system is receiving voltage of a new full battery.SO what the programming does is tell the charging system that this is a new battery charge it as such, its that basic and simple.
You don't even know the make model and year of the car!!!!

Nawao.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 5:16pm On Mar 15, 2025
9icetoo:
You don't even know the make model and year of the car!!!!

Nawao.
U are ignorant, U cant even contribute anything rather argue aimlesly,if you was in the right frame of mind you would have seen where he mentioned the 2011 car.Bro please go back to what you know how to do. Stop embarrassing yourself on here, we have moved pass here
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 5:17pm On Mar 15, 2025
9icetoo:
No one is struggling.

Just you.

Stop being a dingbat. The ship has sailed.

Rest Mr torquewrench
There is what happen when there is nothing constructive to add, value added by you is zero.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 9icetoo(m): 5:26pm On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
Ford edge 2011
Follow the step in this link. https://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/15548-2012-dead-battery-procedure/

If you have someone who has the appropriate scan tool and want to reprogram the BMS, it's OK. If not, follow the steps in the link. Leave car undisturbed for 8 hrs after installing the new battery and you should be fine.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 9icetoo(m): 5:28pm On Mar 15, 2025
erico2k2:
U are ignorant, U cant even contribute anything rather argue aimlesly,if you was in the right frame of mind you would have seen where he mentioned the 2011 car.Bro please go back to what you know how to do. Stop embarrassing yourself on here, we have moved pass here
Mrtorquewrench, rest.

You ask basic questions first before prescribing solutions. Before you treat malaria with hypertension drugs. 2011 what? Keke?

Are we moving the timeliness from 2015 to 2011 now?

Rest.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 5:38pm On Mar 15, 2025
[quote author=9icetoo post=134552231]Mrtorquewrench, rest.

You ask basic questions first before prescribing solutions. Before you treat malaria with hypertension drugs. 2011 what? Keke?

Are we moving the timeliness from 2015 to 2011 now?

Rest.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 5:39pm On Mar 15, 2025
9icetoo:
Mrtorquewrench, rest.

You ask basic questions first before prescribing solutions. Before you treat malaria with hypertension drugs. 2011 what? Keke?

Are we moving the timeliness from 2015 to 2011 now?

Rest.
You want to be noticed huh ok you have been notice, now foxtrot Oscar already.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by curiobling: 6:14pm On Mar 15, 2025
9icetoo:
Follow the step in this link. https://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/15548-2012-dead-battery-procedure/

If you have someone who has the appropriate scan tool and want to reprogram the BMS, it's OK. If not, follow the steps in the link. Leave car undisturbed for 8 hrs after installing the new battery and you should be fine.
Thanks for the link, I was able to read more on ford forum since this advise. I will prefer the 8hrs rules next time
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by curiobling: 6:20pm On Mar 15, 2025
However, you guys are all brilliant contributors here, you have been creating your invaluable time to do research to help solve unknown people car problems. Pls let us not fight or create aspersion, @erico2k2 and 9icetoo,jcesquare. You guys are a doing good jobs.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 6:36pm On Mar 15, 2025
curiobling:
However, you guys are all brilliant contributors here, you have been creating your invaluable time to do research to help solve unknown people car problems. Pls let us not fight or create aspersion, @erico2k2 and 9icetoo,jcesquare. You guys are a doing good jobs.
Bro dnt even sweat.Its all good
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by Ladipodeal: 10:29am On Mar 16, 2025
@eriko2k2 any idea how to go about this?


My Honda accord 2000 V6 transmission blinks D4 when driving. It is lazy on first gear (1) and moves well on subsequent one

Scanning with a scan tool threw up 2 codes under the A/T section.
-45-01 Shift Malfunction.
- 41-01 Incorrect Gear Ratio.

How do I fix this? I won't mind any mechanic recommendations here on Lagos mainland that can work on it.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by erico2k2(m): 2:19pm On Mar 16, 2025
Ladipodeal:
@eriko2k2 any idea how to go about this?


My Honda accord 2000 V6 transmission blinks D4 when driving. It is lazy on first gear (1) and moves well on subsequent one

Scanning with a scan tool threw up 2 codes under the A/T section.
-45-01 Shift Malfunction.
- 41-01 Incorrect Gear Ratio.

How do I fix this? I won't mind any mechanic recommendations here on Lagos mainland that can work on it.
Holla at radautoworks on here
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by longyemi(m): 9:40am On Mar 17, 2025
Good morning experts!

Cc. eriko2k2
9icetoo

My Toyota Camry 2001 (Envelope) has been of late having issues.

I've personally scanned it with my scanner and my Mechanic has done all he thinks and there's no solution in sight yet.

When I start the car it works fine for a moment and afterwards the whole system changes and the car (RPM) drops to almost zero and shaky.

I've changed the Air Mass Sensor,Fuel pump, injector Nozzles, Serviced the injector system.

Now the engine temperature rises in a very short while and produces black smoke from the exhaust.

I have attached the screenshot from the Scans and readings too

Please Help a Brother.
P.S. I just serviced the car too

Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 9icetoo(m): 10:51pm On Mar 17, 2025
longyemi:
Good morning experts!

Cc. eriko2k2
9icetoo

My Toyota Camry 2001 (Envelope) has been of late having issues.

I've personally scanned it with my scanner and my Mechanic has done all he thinks and there's no solution in sight yet.

When I start the car it works fine for a moment and afterwards the whole system changes and the car (RPM) drops to almost zero and shaky.

I've changed the Air Mass Sensor,Fuel pump, injector Nozzles, Serviced the injector system.

Now the engine temperature rises in a very short while and produces black smoke from the exhaust.

I have attached the screenshot from the Scans and readings too

Please Help a Brother.
P.S. I just serviced the car too
The following things should be checked out
1. Check if you have leaks around your manifold and hoses that take air into your engine. Your engine is running lean. Too much unemeterd air is probably getting into the engine.
2. Check the wiring of your map sensor and 02 sensor. Please have a competent electrician who can use a multimeter do this for you. They need to check for continuity ans ground on the wiring to make sure all is well. If all is okay, swap another working ecu with yours and see if the problem goes away. If it does, your ecu is the culprit. But before swapping ecu, please make sure your have checked the wiring out properly.

I assume your mechanic has checked your coils and plugs already.
Re: Car Talk Chat Room by 2cribz: 6:16pm On Mar 18, 2025
Guys I think my parasitic drain is fron my battery clip. I bought a replacement about 2 months ago,then after 2 days I saw white foam on the battery terminals and head.i took it off,filed off the battery heads and also used detergent to wash off excess. Disconnected my battery for 2 days wirh the battery out and still the battery clip wires still foaming white.
For a brand new battery clips I replaced.
I feel scammed and cheated of 5k,I should have bought the toks of 3k,direct from abroad
Now it's not charging my battery well. I'm fed up of naija.so fake has also reached battery clips
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