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The discussion below sparked some curiosity in me and brought back some Pascal’s Wager-like thoughts. So here you have two believers in the same god called YHWH, but still can’t seemingly agree except for just one thing—that the other is going to hell😅. It’s quite hilarious because God claims not to be an author of confusion, yet somehow no two Christians agree on the same interpretation of the objective truth manual (Bible) from cover to cover. Which, by the way, ought to serve as a guide to reaching this elusive heaven.

Anyway, you have Muslims and others in a different corner saying they’re both going to hell, adding to the conundrum. So I thought—what are the chances of either of them making it to heaven?

Well, the chances are amazing, and that’s me being obviously facetious. Throughout human history, humans have worshiped between 30,000 – 40,000 gods. That estimate was sourced from the classic work of anthropology by James Frazer, The Golden Bough. Of course, some of these gods belonged to the same pantheon—like YHWH belonging to the Canaanite pantheon—and their worshipers were sometimes polytheistic/henotheistic. So we’ll go with a lesser figure that cuts that out, as well as extinct religions, say 10,000. That’s a fair figure, as it corresponds with estimates of the current number of religions, so fair.

Moving on—you have a 1 in 10,000 chance of picking the right religion, dependent on your location, the religion you were indoctrinated with, or lastly, one of the more common religions practiced in your area. They can’t all be true, they certainly could all be false, or one is true. The chances of picking the one that is true?! 0.0001% Ouch!

Second context—denominations. They’re lucky they picked the right god due to the factors earlier stated, but did they pick the right denomination with the right interpretation?

There are about 45,000 denominations of Christianity, not factoring in lost Christianities that were phased out and killed off by other denominations for being heretical according to subjective interpretation. Also not factored in is the fact that Christianity evolved, and what you have today is in no way similar to when it started out or even a hundred years later. But we’ll go with the 45,000. So that’s a 1 in 45,000 chance, which is basically 0.00002% of picking the right denomination.

In essence, their chances are 1 in 10,000 multiplied by 1 in 45,000, which gives an infinitesimal 0.000000000222%.

That’s even worse than a 1 in 13.5 billion chance, showing how unlikely it is. You are more likely to get attacked by a polar bear in the Sahara than to enter heaven, which shows how ludicrous it is 😅.

So calm down, bros—if the fictional hell were real, you’d both definitely be going there. Luckily, mythology and fiction are just that—myth and fiction. With those chances, only 17 out of 8 billion people would get into the fiction called heaven, and that’s not even taking into account that they all don’t agree.

There’s a reason there’s zero evidence for the fiction and it relies on “just believe.”

Lucifyre:
The discussion below sparked some curiosity in me and brought back some Pascal’s Wager-like thoughts. So here you have two believers in the same god called YHWH, but still can’t seemingly agree except for just one thing—that the other is going to hell😅. It’s quite hilarious because God claims not to be an author of confusion, yet somehow no two Christians agree on the same interpretation of the objective truth manual (Bible) from cover to cover. Which, by the way, ought to serve as a guide to reaching this elusive heaven.

Anyway, you have Muslims and others in a different corner saying they’re both going to hell, adding to the conundrum. So I thought—what are the chances of either of them making it to heaven?

Well, the chances are amazing, and that’s me being obviously facetious. Throughout human history, humans have worshiped between 30,000 – 40,000 gods. That estimate was sourced from the classic work of anthropology by James Frazer, The Golden Bough. Of course, some of these gods belonged to the same pantheon—like YHWH belonging to the Canaanite pantheon—and their worshipers were sometimes polytheistic/henotheistic. So we’ll go with a lesser figure that cuts that out, as well as extinct religions, say 10,000. That’s a fair figure, as it corresponds with estimates of the current number of religions, so fair.

Moving on—you have a 1 in 10,000 chance of picking the right religion, dependent on your location, the religion you were indoctrinated with, or lastly, one of the more common religions practiced in your area. They can’t all be true, they certainly could all be false, or one is true. The chances of picking the one that is true?! 0.0001% Ouch!

Second context—denominations. They’re lucky they picked the right god due to the factors earlier stated, but did they pick the right denomination with the right interpretation?

There are about 45,000 denominations of Christianity, not factoring in lost Christianities that were phased out and killed off by other denominations for being heretical according to subjective interpretation. Also not factored in is the fact that Christianity evolved, and what you have today is in no way similar to when it started out or even a hundred years later. But we’ll go with the 45,000. So that’s a 1 in 45,000 chance, which is basically 0.00002% of picking the right denomination.

In essence, their chances are 1 in 10,000 multiplied by 1 in 45,000, which gives an infinitesimal 0.000000000222%.

That’s even worse than a 1 in 13.5 billion chance, showing how unlikely it is. You are more likely to get attacked by a polar bear in the Sahara than to enter heaven, which shows how ludicrous it is 😅.

So calm down, bros—if the fictional hell were real, you’d both definitely be going there. Luckily, mythology and fiction are just that—myth and fiction. With those chances, only 17 out of 8 billion people would get into the fiction called heaven, and that’s not even taking into account that they all don’t agree.

There’s a reason there’s zero evidence for the fiction and it relies on “just believe.”

What about people who are not religious or are atheist but want to push their personal opinion of what is good and evil to others, don't you think that they are delusional too?

Truthseeker10:
What about people who are not religious or are atheist but want to push their personal opinion of what is good and evil to others, don't you think that they are delusional too?

Pls what type of crack are you on😅

Lucifyre:
Pls what type of crack are you on😅

😂😂😂 Meta Ai

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂 Meta Ai

Why am i not surprised you're indeed on crack.

Lucifyre:
Why am i not surprised you're indeed on crack.

I wonder why Atheist are worried about Religion and their effects. Isn't that delusional?

Lucifyre:
There’s a reason there’s zero evidence for the fiction and it relies on “just believe.”

It is no fiction that people are terrified when they are dying especially atheists and evil people.

Let a tyre burst and see how an atheist dies temporarily.

Truthseeker10:
I wonder why Atheist are worried about Religion and their effects. Isn't that delusional?

Especially when he took out so much time to talk about what he says it's fictional.

StillDtruth:
It is no fiction that people are terrified when they are dying especially atheists and evil people.

Let a tyre burst and see how an atheist dies temporarily.

2 has more of a chance of being a prime number before anything remotely sensible comes from you.

Truthseeker10:
I wonder why Atheist are worried about Religion and their effects. Isn't that delusional?

Isn't it absolutely delusional to pass fiction and mythology as facts especially when no lick of evidence?😁

Lucifyre:
Isn't it absolutely delusional to pass fiction and mythology as facts especially when no lick of evidence?😁

The same way it is delusional to analyse a matter without scientifically giving a value Judgement of whether the matter is either "good" or "bad" especially when the analyst strongly agrees that "good" and "bad" exist.😂😂😂

Truthseeker10:
The same way it is delusional to analyse a matter without scientifically giving a value Judgement of whether the matter is either "good" or "bad" especially when the analyst strongly agrees that "good" and "bad" exist.😂😂😂

In other words YES and no evidence. Thank you

I didn't know that morality argument gave you sleepless nights that you had to ignore the topic at hand to try to bring it back into this😂 Na so e bother you reach

Lucifyre:
In other words YED and no evidence. Thank you

I didn't know that morality argument gave you sleepless nights that you had to ignore the topic at hand to try to bring it back into this😂 Na so e bother you reach

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Lucifyre:
2 has more of a chance of being a prime number before anything remotely sensible comes from you.

It would snow in Lagos before you ever have a chance to give any reasonable counter to my responses.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Got a rebuttal for the topic or any evidence whatsoever?! No?! As i thought, sit in the corner. 🤡

StillDtruth:
It would snow in Lagos before you ever have a chance to give any reasonable counter to my responses.

🥱 Stale. What sensible person gives a counter to nairaland's Grade A m0ron in chief. BTW there's someone on here fighting seriously for your title.😁

Lucifyre:
Got a rebuttal for the topic or any evidence whatsoever?! No?! As i thought, sit in the corner. 🤡

What's the point of bantering with your topic above if you are not going to reach a scientific conclusion?

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Truthseeker10:
What's the point of bantering with your topic above if you are not going to reach a scientific conclusion?

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

😅 Is this a joke? Scientific mentioned alongside religious dross. Got any scientific proof for your god?!

Lucifyre:
😅 Is this a joke? Scientific mentioned alongside religious dross. Got any scientific proof for your god?!

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Please wait just a little bit, give me 6000yrs

Lucifyre:
Please wait just a little bit, give me 6000yrs

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Lucifyre:
🥱 Stale. What sensible person gives a counter to nairaland's Grade A m0ron in chief. BTW there's someone on herr fighting seriously for your title.😁

Says a senseless person already showing he is the world champion of Fools trying to counter by making insalts and abuses, (which the whole world has already determined that they are the most stupid arguments fools make) since he never could find any reasonable counter in the first place 🤣🤣🤣

You obviously have taken the title of the worlds most foolishest from Jaephoenix 🤣🤣🤣

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Please wait 🤡

Lucifyre:
Please wait 🤡

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

StillDtruth:
Says a senseless person already showing he is the world champion of Fools trying to counter by making insalts and abuses, (which the whole world has already determined that they are the most stupid arguments fools make) since he never could find any reasonable counter in the first place 🤣🤣🤣

You obviously have taken the title of the worlds most foolishest from Jaephoenix 🤣🤣🤣

Insalts?! What about Inpepper?! You'd definitely know arguments from fools after all 40 plus years of experience being a fool is not to be scoffed at. I doff my hat at your longevity 👊🏼

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

At first i actually thought you were on something, didn't know the retardation was innate and you were vying for stilldfool's position. As a retard pls repeat the question 😁

Lucifyre:
At first i actually thought you were on something, didn't know the retardation was innate and you were vying for stilldfool's position. As a retard pls repeat the question 😁

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Please just for confirmation. confirm your retardation for us as Nairaland's Grade A Deputy M0ron In Chief, roaming around nairaland repeatedly asking same dim witted questions. 😂

Lucifyre:
Please just for confirmation. confirm your retardation for us as Nairaland's Grade A Deputy M0ron In Chief, roaming around nairaland repeatedly asking same dim witted questions. 😂

😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂Oga what is your scientific value judgment of religion? "Good" or "bad"?

We are waiting.

One more please for absolute confirmation of your grade A retardation, can you pls repeat verbatim like an oaf🙂

Lucifyre:
Insalts?! What about Inpepper?! You'd definitely know arguments from fools after all 40 plus years of experience being a fool is not to be scoffed at. I doff my hat at your longevity 👊🏼

See how foolish you are?
Now you real eyes that you still have nothing to say the next stupid thing you do is to re-fight my saying insalt even after I have told you the last time that you are too stupid to read and you could not say anything.

So, you resort to insalting me because you see that I always make you see that you are super foolish when you speak in your attempt to blow me off from pointing out that you are always very stupid.

To be maintaining this level of stupidity for such a long time, it's clear your village people have done it again.

StillDtruth:
See how foolish you are?
Now you real eyes that you still have nothing to say the next stupid thing you do is to re-fight my saying insalt even after I have told you the last time that you are too stupid to read and you could not say anything.

So, you resort to insalting me because you see that I always make you see that you are super foolish when you speak in your attempt to blow me off from pointing out that you are always very stupid.

To be maintaining this level of stupidity for such a long time, it's clear your village people have done it again.

Ok stop crying😄 sorry, i won't insalt or inpepper you again, was only marveling at your dedication and longevity to your craft. Wipe the tears from your eyes, clean the foam from your mouth and stop barking, it would be fine, your last two braincells fighting for third place can still be somewhat useful. All is not lost. No more insalts, just observation of your dedicated buffoonery from afar. Ur fellow theists usually say "what god cannot do does not exist". That's until they encounter your case😁