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Antichristian2:
Historically there's no evidence any King wanted to kill Jesus or any other baby about 2000 years ago. So the story that an Angel apeared to Joseph to carry Jesus your God run away is false!

Uhmmmm!

But historically there is evidence that someone is called Essa and that story of Essa was copied from another source isn't it?

RightChannel:
Uhmmmm!

But historically there is evidence that someone is called Essa and that story of Essa was copied from another source isn't it?

Where is the story of Eesa talking from the cradle copied from?

Where is the story of Eesa turning moulded clay bird to live ones copied from?

RightChannel:
Even at this time of ramadan you still went further to lie!

Is Abraham, Jacob, Judah, Tamar, Amminadab, not mentioned in Old testament?

The liar is clear among us. Show me where

Matthat
Levi
Jorim
Eliezer
Cosam
Elmodam

exist in the old testament. If you can't then you are essentially the liar.

You mean I should show you the image of their dressing? in Saudi Arabia aside the time and period you do circumbulate kaaba half naked or undressed, did you still go about dressing unclothedness or half naked on normal day?

You requested for evidence for how they dressed while worshipping Allah in the Kaaba. So show us how they dressed in the Bible. Why all these rants?

These verses were not directed to Abraham and Ishmael, it says for those who will. You shouldn't have problem comprehending these verses!

They started the system and purified it for the coming generations.

Your Ishmael was banished to the desert. Is Biblical God called Gods or you lack singular and plural understanding?

Yeah, Arabia is a desert. Yeah there are three in one Gods in Christianity! God the father, God the son and God the spirit. Only the son can die. Sin against the spirit is not forgiven. The spirit can enter Samson and make him kill others. Only the son can become man! The father is in heaven!

So who are the WE, OURS, US, etc if truly he has no partners?

We is Allah! Us is Allah aka Ar-Rahman, Our is Allah aka As-Samad.....He is one not three!
The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop! —for your own good. Allah is only One God. Surah An-Nissa 171

MaxInDHouse:
So if someone molests children in secret you can trust such a person to teach your child?

How do you know he does that in secret?

There are processes, if he is caught, he would face the justice system.

So you saying your elders who molest children are not supposed to educate their children? If not why you people keep protecting them?

sonmvayina:
How do you know he does that in secret?
There are processes, if he is caught, he would face the justice system.
So you saying your elders who molest children are not supposed to educate their children? If not why you people keep protecting them?

If you catch anyone molesting your child will you still entrust him with your child?

Antichristian2:
The liar is clear among us. Show me where

Matthat
Levi
Jorim
Eliezer
Cosam
Elmodam

exist in the old testament. If you can't then you are essentially the liar.

Levi - Deuteronomy 10:9
Eliezer - Genesis 15:2

Matthan was father of Jacob and the grandfather of Joseph, the husband of Mary, you don't expect Bible to mention all the names of people in the world in old testament

Is it now you want to separate Old testament from Bible but when looking for Bible quote that will suit your ignorance, you will be quoting from old testament

Mention people that enter the ark with Noah as recorded in your quran?

Antichristian2:
You requested for evidence for how they dressed while worshipping Allah in the Kaaba. So show us how they dressed in the Bible. Why all these rants?

I am asking you did you dress half naked on a normal day in Saudi Arabia?

Antichristian2:
They started the system and purified it for the coming generations.

So they never circumbulated it half naked?

Antichristian2:
Yeah, Arabia is a desert. Yeah there are three in one Gods in Christianity! God the father, God the son and God the spirit. Only the son can die. Sin against the spirit is not forgiven. The spirit can enter Samson and make him kill others. Only the son can become man! The father is in heaven!

Three in One Gods

Who is your English teacher? Three in One Gods

Did you know the plural of Trinity?

Antichristian2:
We is Allah! Us is Allah aka Ar-Rahman, Our is Allah aka As-Samad.....He is one not three!
The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop! —for your own good. Allah is only One God. Surah An-Nissa 171

We is allah, US is allah

I am expecting you to attribute this to royal We!

We should be allahs and US to be allahs since allah has no partner!

Antichristian2:
Where is the story of Eesa talking from the cradle copied from?

Where is the story of Eesa turning moulded clay bird to live ones copied from?

Is manger not the same cradle?

Antichristian2:
The liar is clear among us. Show me where

Matthat
Levi
Jorim
Eliezer
Cosam
Elmodam

exist in the old testament. If you can't then you are essentially the liar.

You requested for evidence for how they dressed while worshipping Allah in the Kaaba. So show us how they dressed in the Bible. Why all these rants?

They started the system and purified it for the coming generations.


Yeah, Arabia is a desert. Yeah there are three in one Gods in Christianity! God the father, God the son and God the spirit. Only the son can die. Sin against the spirit is not forgiven. The spirit can enter Samson and make him kill others. Only the son can become man! The father is in heaven!



We is Allah! Us is Allah aka Ar-Rahman, Our is Allah aka As-Samad.....He is one not three!
The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit ˹created by a command˺ from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop! —for your own good. Allah is only One God. Surah An-Nissa 171

You speak like a fool!!!
Your own Quran damns you!
The infancy narrative you allude to damns you!!!

Did Jesus not create birds from clay? 🤦🏾‍♂️
Let me guess by Allah's permission.
Whether or not he had Allah's permission or not, who is the doer🤦🏾‍♂️ —Isa

Your Quran unwittingly made Isa a co-creator to Allah.

Stop with the lies, even you don't know how your father😀, Ishmael dressed!
Anyone can claim anything, I can build a well now and claim, Moses built such well🤨.

Do you see how ludicrous that sounds?
Historically speaking, Abraham would have never reached your land!!!

Also most of the stories about your prophet, have originations further North!
Why didn't the Meccans write of him?
But you need someone 1200km away to write accurate stories🤭 about your prophet!!!

The same yardsticks you use on the bible when used on the Quran shows your Quran is false!!!

Your Quran doesn't answer fundamental questions such as purpose and seem not to uphold morality!!!

Just imagine, your prophet visited a non-existent mosque and one of his companions even affirmed the mosque's existence🤕!!!

Between your prophet and Tinubu, I don't know who should hold the award for brazen lies!!!


Sex, violence, sex and more sex in heaven is your prophet's message!!!

Antichristian2:
Do people worship their father?
Jesus worshipped the father! He did pray to Him many times!
Jesus made many reference of him doing the will of his father and not his own will!

A slave has no will of his but does the will of his master! A son on the other hand has the will of his and can at times contradict the father!
Jesus said he can of himself do nothing!

What's the name/location of Jesus's church and who were the congregation?

This is Jesus response to your stupid claim if being a slave.

John 8
34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

You are the one who is a slave. Jesus is a Son, he said so himself.
He never told anyone he was a slave. Muhammed is the one who said ISA is a slave.

And Jesus as the Son is saying he has the power to set U free!!!!

People see as he will come with another moronic argument.

SIRTee15:
This is Jesus response to your stupid claim if being a slave.

John 8
34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

You are the one who is a slave. Jesus is a Son, he said so himself.
He never told anyone he was a slave. Muhammed is the one who said ISA is a slave.

And Jesus as the Son is saying he has the power to set U free!!!!

People see as he will come with another moronic argument.

Their best will be corruption😂😂😂.
Or that's not the injeel😂😂😂?

How can one claim that a fighter jet is not F-16 when he has never seen one before?

If you ask him now, where is the original injeel?
How should it be like?
He doesn't know😂😂😂 but he knows for a certain that what we have now is not the 'injil' !!!

Foolishness, and to add salt to injury their moronic prophet said the people of the book should judge by the injil😂😂😂—implying they had the Injeel of Jesus as at then!

Muhammad is just dumb😂😂😂 as Patrick star.
From saying Allah gave Isa a book😂😂😂
To claiming christians as at his time had the book (injil)😂😂😂 to now shouting textual corruption.

To now even shoot himself in the leg, he even gave surahs that supported Jesus' followers being victorious to the end!

Muhammad even argued that the dominant sect of Christianity are the ones following the words of Jesus 😂😂😂.

How can someone make and destroy his own arguments!!!

Illiteracy is bliss 🤤!

MaxInDHouse:
If you catch anyone molesting your child will you still entrust him with your child?

Capital NO

RightChannel:
Levi - Deuteronomy 10:9
Eliezer - Genesis 15:2

Matthan was father of Jacob and the grandfather of Joseph, the husband of Mary, you don't expect Bible to mention all the names of people in the world in old testament

Is it now you want to separate Old testament from Bible but when looking for Bible quote that will suit your ignorance, you will be quoting from old testament

Mention people that enter the ark with Noah as recorded in your quran?

You see your life. I said not all those people in the geneology is mentioned in the old testament. And you called me a liar. Now you are confirming that you are the liar. Anyways, you are a Christian. Jesus don die for your lies. How does the name of the people in the ark affect your family morals or anything? I don't know why you dwell on petty low IQ babblings!

I am asking you did you dress half naked on a normal day in Saudi Arabia?

I think i'm done with you here. You can never answer the question.

So they never circumbulated it half naked?

At least they are more covered than a lot of your female folks!

Three in One Gods

Who is your English teacher? Three in One Gods

Did you know the plural of Trinity?

I don't even know how trinity makes sense to anyone with a normal IQ.
God the father - Always in heaven! Never dies!

God the son - Can be on earth - Can die.

God the spirit - Can enter Samson to make him kill.

And all the three are not three Gods in one! 1+1+1 = 3

Christian maths teacher says 1+1+1=1.

We is allah, US is allah

I am expecting you to attribute this to royal We!

We should be allahs and US to be allahs since allah has no partner!

I know you know that's the truth! Then you'll continue your programmed tantrums. I no get your time.

RightChannel:
Is manger not the same cradle?

Where is the story of Eesa talking from the cradle copied from?

Where is the story of Eesa turning moulded clay bird to live ones copied from?

sonmvayina:
Capital NO

Exactly what i've been trying to tell you all this time, evildoers can't teach morals to children!

SIRTee15:
This is Jesus response to your stupid claim if being a slave.

John 8
34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

You are the one who is a slave. Jesus is a Son, he said so himself.
He never told anyone he was a slave. Muhammed is the one who said ISA is a slave.

And Jesus as the Son is saying he has the power to set U free!!!!

People see as he will come with another moronic argument.

You should know i'm very intelligent than you!

Jesus said so many things in your Bible!

A slave does not do things of himself but does the will of others. A slave totally obeys the master and submits to him!

1. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. John 6:38

2. Jesus explained, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to finish His work. John 4:34

3. I can do nothing by myself; I judge only as I hear. And my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me. John 5:30

4. He who sent Me is with Me. He has not left Me alone, because I always do what pleases Him.” John 8:29

5. I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it. / And I know that His command leads to eternal life. So I speak exactly what the Father has told Me to say.” John 12:49-50

Paul Confirms the slavery!
1. Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

This means if we obey God then we are God's slaves!

2. Paul continues later in Romans 6:22:
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Here we see that those who have been set free from sins become slaves of God!

Antichristian2:
You see your life. I said not all those people in the geneology is mentioned in the old testament. And you called me a liar. Now you are confirming that you are the liar. Anyways, you are a Christian. Jesus don die for your lies. How does the name of the people in the ark affect your family morals or anything? I don't know why you dwell on petty low IQ babblings!

I think i'm done with you here. You can never answer the question.


At least they are more covered than a lot of your female folks!




I don't even know how trinity makes sense to anyone with a normal IQ.
God the father - Always in heaven! Never dies!

God the son - Can be on earth - Can die.

God the spirit - Can enter Samson to make him kill.

And all the three are not three Gods in one! 1+1+1 = 3

Christian maths teacher says 1+1+1=1.


I know you know that's the truth! Then you'll continue your programmed tantrums. I no get your time.

The same way Allah has 99names and still one person🤣🤣🤣

Bloody hypocrite!!!

Antichristian2:
You should know i'm very intelligent than you!

Jesus said so many things in your Bible!

A slave does not do things of himself but does the will of others. A slave totally obeys the master and submits to him!

1. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. John 6:38

2. Jesus explained, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to finish His work. John 4:34

3. I can do nothing by myself; I judge only as I hear. And my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me. John 5:30

4. He who sent Me is with Me. He has not left Me alone, because I always do what pleases Him.” John 8:29

5. I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it. / And I know that His command leads to eternal life. So I speak exactly what the Father has told Me to say.” John 12:49-50

Paul Confirms the slavery!
1. Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

This means if we obey God then we are God's slaves!

2. Paul continues later in Romans 6:22:
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Here we see that those who have been set free from sins become slaves of God!

Islamic logic is really profound 🤣🤣🤣.
Selective amnesia is the order of the day!!!
Filled with false equivocations.

Let me give one also!!
Pagans worshipped the black stone!
Muhammad worshipped and kissed the black stone!
Muhammad is a pagan! 🙃

Gabrielshow24:
The same way Allah has 99names and still one person🤣🤣🤣

Bloody hypocrite!!!

Elohim, Adonai, YHWH, El Shadai,...

Na 4 Gods be that?

Antichristian2:
Where is the story of Eesa talking from the cradle copied from?

Where is the story of Eesa turning moulded clay bird to live ones copied from?

Where is the story of Eesa in manger (cradle) copied from?

Where is the story of Ease performing miracles using clay and saliva copied from?

RightChannel:
Where is the story of Eesa in manger (cradle) copied from?

Where is the story of Ease performing miracles using clay and saliva copied from?

As usual!

Formular dodge it when you can't respond!

Holy Spirit no get subscription again!

Antichristian2:
You see your life. I said not all those people in the geneology is mentioned in the old testament. And you called me a liar. Now you are confirming that you are the liar. Anyways, you are a Christian. Jesus don die for your lies. How does the name of the people in the ark affect your family morals or anything? I don't know why you dwell on petty low IQ babblings!

You listed how many names? And I bursted your lies showing you some of the names you listed are found in Old testament

Till now you never listed at least just ONE name of anyone that entered the ark with Noah as recorded in your quran. All they programmed inside your stinky skull is that they are muslims without name!

Antichristian2:
I think i'm done with you here. You can never answer the question.

As usual, you must run away!

Did you dress half naked on a normal day in Saudi Arabia is the question you couldn't answer!

What is the different between you and idolaters that dressed half naked same way you dress while circumbulated the stone your allah was inside!

Antichristian2:
At least they are more covered than a lot of your female folks!

My female folks are not so stupid like your female and male folks in your family and Islam that open their bodies while circumbulating the stone!

Antichristian2:
I don't even know how trinity makes sense to anyone with a normal IQ.

How does ONE Gods make sense to you if you have a normal IQ

You did singular and plural in primary school, is there anything like ONE Gods if you have a well functioning brain?

You said allah is WE, OURS, US, etc can one stand in place of two?

Antichristian2:
God the father - Always in heaven! Never dies!

Did you have problem with that?

Antichristian2:
God the son - Can be on earth - Can die.

Did you omit or you ignorantly look away from where it said HE IS ALIVE?

Antichristian2:
God the spirit - Can enter Samson to make him kill.

Which spirit enters Muhammad to make him kill? That should be evil spirit that lead him to eat poisonous meal

Antichristian2:
And all the three are not three Gods in one! 1+1+1 = 3

What is 1 x 1 x 1?

It is clear that you don't have a well functioning brain!

Antichristian2:
Christian maths teacher says 1+1+1=1.

Who is your Islam Math's Teacher that thought you ONE Gods?

Christian math's teacher is right, it is 1 x 1x 1= 1

Antichristian2:
I know you know that's the truth! Then you'll continue your programmed tantrums. I no get your time.

Sure I know the truth, I will never bow to your ONE Gods!

Get a well functioning brain!

Antichristian2:
As usual!

Formular dodge it when you can't respond!

Holy Spirit no get subscription again!

Dodge you said!

The story of Eesa in cradle (manger), where is it copied from before talking about Eesa speaking in cradle?

Muhammad and allah no get clue on how to form their own story about Eesa again?

Antichristian2:
You should know i'm very intelligent than you!

Jesus said so many things in your Bible!

A slave does not do things of himself but does the will of others. A slave totally obeys the master and submits to him!

1. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. John 6:38

2. Jesus explained, “My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to finish His work. John 4:34

3. I can do nothing by myself; I judge only as I hear. And my judgment is just, because I do not seek my own will, but the will of Him who sent me. John 5:30

4. He who sent Me is with Me. He has not left Me alone, because I always do what pleases Him.” John 8:29

5. I have not spoken on my own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it. / And I know that His command leads to eternal life. So I speak exactly what the Father has told Me to say.” John 12:49-50

Paul Confirms the slavery!
1. Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?

This means if we obey God then we are God's slaves!

2. Paul continues later in Romans 6:22:
But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life.

Here we see that those who have been set free from sins become slaves of God!

So U this is what U wasted a whole day researching b4 U could respond!!!
It's dead on arrival.

Jesus was never a slave to sin, so he couldn't be set free from sin to become a slave of God.
He is sinless. Jesus is the one that sets u free from sin. He said so himself.
If anything, you are slave to Jesus!!!!! If U choose to be a slave. Thank Jesus and tell him U want to downgrade your status to slavery instead of sonship.

2. If the Father and Son work together, they have the same goal and purpose.

John 10
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

John 5
17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.”

Jesus cannot be a slave of God, he works independently without any supervision.
John 5
21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.

Jesus can never be a slave, Jesus said he should be worshipped same way you worship his Father.

John 5
22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

Jesus can never be a slave, he has aseity- life in himself. And has the authority to judge.

John 5
26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man

What's funny here is Jesus never said he's a slave. But clearly said unambiguously that he's a Son of his Father.
But dishonest Muslims like antichristian are pushing words into Jesus mouth misinterpreting verses to claim he's a slave.

Now when we Christians do similar exegesis of Jesus' words to claim Jesus is God, these confused Muslims will reject it and insist we bring unambiguous verse that says Jesus is God.

Now we have clear cut verses saying Jesus is the Son of his Father, Muslims ignore them to start forcing slavery into passages so as to please their Ignorant Master- Mohammed, the first person to say Isa is a slave.

Bunch of stinking hypocrites

John 10

what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father.

SIRTee15:
So U this is what U wasted a whole day researching b4 U could respond!!!
It's dead on arrival.

Yeah, na only you i dey respond to here and online. Why do i need to research anything for you?

Jesus was never a slave to sin, so he couldn't be set free from sin to become a slave of God.
He is sinless. Jesus is the one that sets u free from sin. He said so himself.
If anything, you are slave to Jesus!!!!! If U choose to be a slave. Thank Jesus and tell him U want to downgrade your status to slavery instead of sonship.

Yes, the sin part wasn't for Jesus but the obedience part is for him. He obeys the father as a slave obeys his master.

Paul Confirms the slavery!
Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—

This means if you obey God then you are God's slaves according to Paul!

Jesus obeyed God by doing His will so he became a slave of God!

2. If the Father and Son work together, they have the same goal and purpose.
John 10
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

Why didn't Jesus give them to the father? It was the father that always give him everything! Just as a slave!

John 5
17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.”

There's nothing wrong if master and slave are working!

Jesus cannot be a slave of God, he works independently without any supervision.
John 5
21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.

This one is capping! Why didn't Jesus heal the canaanite woman's daughter at first? Why did Jesus had to pray to God to raise the dead?

Jesus can never be a slave, Jesus said he should be worshipped same way you worship his Father.

Can the father worship Jesus like Jesus worshipped him?

John 5
22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

Jesus can never be a slave, he has aseity- life in himself. And has the authority to judge.

It is still coming from the Master to the slave!

John 5
26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man

God granted him life. He can't grant himself life nor can he grant the father life! By himself he can do nothing! That's the definition of a slave.

What's funny here is Jesus never said he's a slave. But clearly said unambiguously that he's a Son of his Father.
But dishonest Muslims like antichristian are pushing words into Jesus mouth misinterpreting verses to claim he's a slave.

Yes, he didn't call himself slave of God! And i never said Jesus called himself a slave. I am saying all his actions and words are that of a slave not son!

Jesus is a messenger of God - A messenger is a slave o
John 3:17: "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world..."
John 5:36: "But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of me, that the Father has sent me."
John 7:29: "But I know him, for I am from him, and he sent me."

A slave does the will of others
John 4:34: "My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work."
John 5:30: "I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who sent me."
Matthew 26:39: In the Garden of Gethsemane, he prays, "Not as I will, but as you will."

Now when we Christians do similar exegesis of Jesus' words to claim Jesus is God, these fools will reject it and insist we bring unambiguous verse that says Jesus is God.

Now we have clear cut verses saying Jesus is the Son of his Father, Muslims ignore them to start forcing slavery into passages so as to please their Ignorant Master- Mohammed, the first person to say Isa is a slave.

Bunch of stinking hypocrites

Too much rants and babbling!

RightChannel:
Dodge you said!

The story of Eesa in cradle (manger), where is it copied from before talking about Eesa speaking in cradle?

Muhammad and allah no get clue on how to form their own story about Eesa again?

Eesa talked in the cradle means he talked when he was being carried about as a baby!

Cradle - a baby's bed or cot!

Manger - a long trough from which horses or cattle feed.

Where is the story of Eesa talking from the cradle copied from?

Where is the story of Eesa turning moulded clay bird to live ones copied from?

Recharge your Holy Spirit subcription!

Antichristian2:
Yeah, na only you i dey respond to here and online. Why do i need to research anything for you?

Yes, the sin part wasn't for Jesus but the obedience part is for him. He obeys the father as a slave obeys his master.

Paul Confirms the slavery!
Paul allegedly said in Romans 6:16:
Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—

This means if you obey God then you are God's slaves according to Paul!

Jesus obeyed God by doing His will so he became a slave of God!

Why didn't Jesus give them to the father? It was the father that always give him everything! Just as a slave!

There's nothing wrong if master and slave are working!


This one is capping! Why didn't Jesus heal the canaanite woman's daughter at first? Why did Jesus had to pray to God to raise the dead?

Can the father worship Jesus like Jesus worshipped him?

It is still coming from the Master to the slave!

God granted him life. He can't grant himself life nor can he grant the father life! By himself he can do nothing! That's the definition of a slave.

Yes, he didn't call himself slave of God! And i never said Jesus called himself a slave. I am saying all his actions and words are that of a slave not son!

Jesus is a messenger of God - A messenger is a slave o
John 3:17: "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world..."
John 5:36: "But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given me to finish—the very works that I do—bear witness of me, that the Father has sent me."
John 7:29: "But I know him, for I am from him, and he sent me."

A slave does the will of others
John 4:34: "My food is to do the will of him who sent me and to accomplish his work."
John 5:30: "I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who sent me."
Matthew 26:39: In the Garden of Gethsemane, he prays, "Not as I will, but as you will."

Too much rants and babbling!

I never knew U are this slow in thinking
Everything you are and will become in this world came from your Father and Mother.

Your genetic sequence, your life, your personality, the way U were raised came from them.
Are U then a slave to your parents for giving you life?

Father bequeath wealth to their Sons
Father give inheritance to their sons.
Does that make sons slave to their Fathers.

Imagine saying when a son obeys his Father, then he's a slave.
Are U a slave to your Father because U obey him and follow his instructions?

This is what Paul that U have been quoting has to say about son obeying their fathers.


Ephesian 6
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

Does that make children slaves to their parents?

In the old covenant, children who disobey their parents are stoned to death according to law of Moses.

According to antiMuslim, that makes children slaves to their Parents.

Your reasoning is upside down.

SIRTee15:
I never knew U are this slow in thinking
Everything you are and will become in this world came from your Father and Mother.

Your genetic sequence, your life, your personality, the way U were raised came from them.
Are U then a slave to your parents for giving you life?

That's biology (sexual reproduction)!

Are you comparing me and my parents to Jesus and the Father? So the Father and Mary gave birth to Jesus!

Father bequeath wealth to their Sons
Father give inheritance to their sons.
Does that make sons slave to their Fathers.

My parents need offspring to continue their lineage and someone to inherit their legacy!
I guess the father too needs a son to continue his lineage and inherit him.
I agree with my father in many things and disagree with him also in some things! Did Jesus disagree with the father in anything?
There is no way a son will be perfectly obedient to his father like Jesus except he's a slave.

No father can send a son to go and die except the son is a metaphor for a slave!

Imagine saying when a son obeys his Father, then he's a slave.
Are U a slave to your Father because U obey him and follow his instructions?

I obey my dad most times! Some other times i don't.

This is what Paul that U have been quoting has to say about son obeying their fathers.

Ephesian 6
Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.

Does that make children slaves to their parents?

Yeah we are to obey our parents in the Lord not in everything!

But according to same Paul, Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Ephesians 6:5. Jesus did obey his master this way!

In the old covenant, children who disobey their parents are stoned to death according to law of Moses.

According to antiMuslim, that makes children slaves to their Parents.

Your reasoning is upside down.

There are two different things you confuse from your Bible!

Children are to obey their parents in the Lord!

Slaves on the other hand has no restrictions:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Ephesian 6:5

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything, not only to please them while they are watching, but with sincerity of heart and fear of the Lord. Colossians 3:22

Slaves are to submit to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, Titus 2:9

Antichristian2:
Eesa talked in the cradle means he talked when he was being carried about as a baby!

Cradle - a baby's bed or cot!

Manger - a long trough from which horses or cattle feed.

Where is the story of Eesa talking from the cradle copied from?

Where is the story of Eesa turning moulded clay bird to live ones copied from?

Recharge your Holy Spirit subcription!

Actually I wanted to make it easy for you but you wish to make it hard for yourself!

The story of Eesa conceptual from virgin's womb till when he was a cradle was copied from where?

Had it been Muhammad and allah get sense, they won't copy a story from another source to formulate what you called quran!

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what i've been trying to tell you all this time, evildoers can't teach morals to children!

So why you people keep hiding them?

Antichristian2:
That's biology (sexual reproduction)!

Are you comparing me and my parents to Jesus and the Father? So the Father and Mary gave birth to Jesus!



My parents need offspring to continue their lineage and someone to inherit their legacy!
I guess the father too needs a son to continue his lineage and inherit him.
I agree with my father in many things and disagree with him also in some things! Did Jesus disagree with the father in anything?
There is no way a son will be perfectly obedient to his father like Jesus except he's a slave.

No father can send a son to go and die except the son is a metaphor for a slave!

I obey my dad most times! Some other times i don't.

Yeah we are to obey our parents in the Lord not in everything!

But according to same Paul, Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear and sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Ephesians 6:5. Jesus did obey his master this way!



There are two different things you confuse from your Bible!

Children are to obey their parents in the Lord!

Slaves on the other hand has no restrictions:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Ephesian 6:5

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything, not only to please them while they are watching, but with sincerity of heart and fear of the Lord. Colossians 3:22

Slaves are to submit to their own masters in everything, to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, Titus 2:9

You disagree with your Father because he's not perfect. He doesn't know everything so prone to mistakes.
Your father's will for you isn't without defect.

Jesus had no cause to disagree with his Father because he knows his Father his perfect. He knows it all. So he trust his father 100%.
Jesus had no cause to doubt his Father's will for him.

Paul told slaves to obey their masters as if they obey the Lord because the Lord will reward them. The servitude was for the Lord not their earthly masters.

The same way U do your work as if it's for Allah not because of some Oga who will punish U if U do nonsense.

Ephesians 6
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7[b] Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, [/b] not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.



Finally I want to end this useless argument.
Is it possible to be a Son and a slave at the same time to One person?

SIRTee15:
You disagree with your Father because he's not perfect. He doesn't know everything so prone to mistakes.
Your father's will for you isn't without defect.

Jesus had no cause to disagree with his Father because he knows his Father his perfect. He knows it all. So he trust his father 100%.
Jesus had no cause to doubt his Father's will for him.

Paul told slaves to obey their masters as if they obey the Lord because the Lord will reward them. The servitude was for the Lord not their earthly masters.

The same way U do your work as if it's for Allah not because of some Oga who will punish U if U do nonsense.

Ephesians 6
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7[b] Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, [/b] not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

Finally I want to end this useless argument.
Is it possible to be a Son and a slave at the same time to One person?

Alhamdulillah you know your argument is useless!
You can't be a son and a slave at the same time.
No son worships his father!
No son will obey the father 100% including killing himself on his order!
No son will thrash his will completely for his father's!

God created us all and everyone is His slave!
Allah says what means:
There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave. (Qur'an - Maryam 19:93)