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| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by casualobserver: 2:53pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
DMerciful:You people should stop overestimating your importance. Oil is important but it is no longer our largest source of government revenue and from 95%, it it now less that 50% of our forex revenues. Diaspora remittances bring in more forex than the oil sector and from 30% at one time, the oil sector is now less that 7% of our GDP. You are still important but if I were you I would go gently with the delusional narratives. With every year you becoming less and less important. While you hang on to militancy and oil, it seems you may not have realized that Nigeria is slowly but gradually leaving you at the same spot. All our new oil fields and investments are offshore where you can’t touch. One day you will blow pipeline and nobody will even bother to report it. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by phantomxx: 2:55pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:Deluded kids everywhere 😂... if OIL is no longer the mainstay, what is?? |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by Alusiizizi(m): 2:59pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
helinues:Advise Wike and his paymaster to also consider collateral damage. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by casualobserver: 3:00pm On Mar 18, 2025*. Modified: 3:23pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
phantomxx:I have told you: the importance of oil right now is forex. And even that has gone down from 95% to less than 50%. Most of govt revenues come from vat and taxes. Perhaps you’ve not been listening that there were months without oil remittances. The Oil sector as a percentage of GDP has gone down from 30% in the 1980s to about 7% today. Your major significance right now is forex because it still accounts for just under 50%. Atgough still significant, oil is no longer the major source of forex. That alone should tell you the trend. All the major investments are offshore for a reason. You will wake up one day and no one will care whether you blow up a pipeline or not. You will wake up one day and find out the companies have packed up never to return. Already there are no new onshore investments . You will be the ones begging people to repair the pipelines you blew up when you discover all the jobs have gone. You are important but with every passing day you become less and less important. Enjoy it while it lasts but don’t get carried away with the hype. Companies and investors ar e already making alternative investments devoid of your constant nonsense. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by favor914: 3:04pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
Penguin2:Typical frustrated Empty Barrel, when The FG show, dey go run go the UN like olosho Natasha dey go cry human rights say the Federal Government of Nigeria wan eliminate them. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by Ancestortinubu: 3:19pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
Good thing will never come your way. Keep on embracing impunity. APC shall fade soon uote author=favor914 post=134594594] Typical frustrated Empty Barrel, when The FG show, dey go run go the UN like olosho Natasha dey go cry human rights say the Federal Government of Nigeria wan eliminate them.[/quote] |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by newssafetys: 3:26pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
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| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by ZombieDredd: 3:28pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
helinues:If you or any of your relatives na soldier, pray una no go draft enter swamp. Na the burial ground be dat |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by phantomxx: 3:31pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:Which govt revenue comes from taxes and VAT?? How much does your govt make from taxes compared to crude?? 😂.. where are you getting such dumb stats from Which companies are you getting tax from The ones that have shut down and pulled out?? This delusion is premium sha 😂 |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by ZombieDredd: 3:33pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by ZombieDredd: 3:34pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:Oluwole statistics. Na so grok puncture all una lies sotay una begin delete ![]() |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by phantomxx: 3:35pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
ZombieDredd:Maybe o!! 😂.. the child says that Nigeria makes more money from VAT and taxes than from Oil ... so why are we struggling? Why is Tinubu borrowing left right and center?? |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by Treadway: 3:43pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
phantomxx:you dey mind am. Oil is no longer the mainstay but the national budget is totally predicated upon it.🤣🤣🤣 |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by phantomxx: 3:47pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
Treadway:Exactly... 😂... you draw up a budget and then put a clause "provided oil price remains at this level" Budget that is benchmarked against a specific crude price o!! 😂 These agbado children sef... |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by casualobserver: 3:58pm On Mar 18, 2025*. Modified: 4:22pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
ZombieDredd: phantomxx:I suggest you check FAAC revenues for the last few years, I think you’ll find we have been surviving largely on VAT, electronic money levies, CIT and customs duty. Many months there has been no Oil remittances. It was quite a big deal when NNPC made its first remittance to FAAC in ages. https://finance.gov.ng/federal-ministry-of-finance-abuja-press-release-faac-fg-states-lgcs-share-n1354-371-trillion-from-a-gross-total-of-n2483-890-trillion-for-the-month-of-june-2024/# Our budget this year is N54T, customs alone is expected to contribute N12T of that which is over 20%, There is VAT, there is CIT. Dangote alone paid N400b in company tax last year. Like I said, you are not as critical as you think you are…. just like what is playing out in Rivers, we deal in strategy and facts not gra gra and grandstanding and when it fails violence!
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| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by Nobody: 4:10pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
helinues:The internet is amazing |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by DMerciful(m): 4:11pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
Let Tinubu and Wike keeps poking Rivers and you guys cheers them on. The chicken will soon come home toroost casualobserver: |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by DMerciful(m): 4:12pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
Why are you avoiding SW,SS,SE? Who created them? Ikaeniyan0: |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by djon78(m): 4:24pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:I don't agree with what you are saying about income that acrues Nigeria. Claiming Oil is just for forex is a very big lie and delusion Where else does foreign earnings come into Nigeria: i. Oil earnings ii. Diaspora remittance iii. Foreign direct investment iv. Other exports like agriculture v. Customs, NPA, These are the major earnings for Nigeria You see that VAT is just money circulating with the States VAT doesn't really show that the economy is growing. Even US the biggest economy in the world doesn't use VAT Why are Niger Deltans Gov paid derivation funds. Which other State is paid derivation funds? So you guys should stop spreading those unverified information. The only thing that can boost Nigeria's economy is industrialisation. For that to happen power issues must be tackled Then Nigerian industries will begin to produce 1. For our consumption 2. For exports to African countries 3. To the globe Also Agriculture is an area not tapped Nigeria has Nigeria is blessed with 36 million hectares of arable farmland. This alone can lead to massive Agricultural revolution when you factor in mechanization within the entire Agric value chain |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by Moveittothem: 4:34pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
alanto:Why the thing come pain you? SE and SS is land grabbing? What about NE and NW? |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by casualobserver: 4:48pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
djon78:When I post I give figures. For me to take you seriously I suggest you do your homework and actually find the figures behind the headlines you posted above. I know you haven’t because if you did you would realize I am right. For a start diaspora remittances is $20b a year. Do the math on oil. Production @1.5mpd, govt share of JV is often 50% sometimes 40%, sometimes 60%. Not all the oil we produce belongs to us this is a fallacy of many uninformed Nigerians. On average we keep 50%. That 50% is after cost of production. production cost is $40 a barrel. I think you’ll find out that at $75 a barrel, less than $10b a year from oil goes to the govt. I know it is shocking to you but they’ve been telling you for years, most weren’t paying attention. I will read the rest of your post and reply later in the mean time get some figures to back up your post. Talk is cheap, figures speak for themselves. https://punchng.com/nigerias-diaspora-remittances-exceed-90bn-in-five-years-nidcom/#google_vignetteTV
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| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by gidgiddy: 4:52pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
muyico:That will make things much worse, these guys know the creeks, it will take the Soldiers years to know the creeks |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by casualobserver: 5:08pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
gidgiddy:I repeat many people are commenting from a position of ignorance. Right now Nigeria makes a paltry $15 from every barrel of Oil that sells for $70. It’s like we are giving the thing away. Why? Because over the years militancy and insecurity have given the oil campaniles to claim high costs of production of $40 a barrel. This means that at $70 all we get is $15 a barrel. 70-40=30, 30/2=15…..50/50 JV. When crude was $80 and production cost was $20, it was worth appeasing militants, Now thanks to past actions of militants production costs is $40 and crude is $70. Add to that for the last 8 years diaspora remittances has been our largest source of forex, add to that we have now integrating diaspora forex inflows into official channels and reserves, addd to that we have a lot more off shore production safe from the nuisance of militants. You add these all together and although you don’t want any militant to blow up any pipeline, the impact is not what it used to be. At $15 dollar a barrel profit, with other sources of forex, with other offshore oil installations, there is less incentive to appease militants. The marginal propensity to appease the militants if you may is not what it was. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:22pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
phantomxx:Diaspora ![]() These people will not succeed in killing me with laugh. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by Ruke1989: 5:22pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
phantomxx:you guys lack sense. Okuama community is not a millitant organization. Are the entire south west just stupid? |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:23pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:You don't know a large chunk of that tax money comes from the operations of oil companies? |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:39pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:Diaspora remittances is a source of foreign exchange but it is not government revenue. It is not government funding to use for government projects or infrastructure. It is actually for household uses like consumption, education, healthcare etc. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by djon78(m): 5:47pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:The $20bn remittance is from Nigerian diasporas Remittance is not generated by Govt but by Nigerians working overseas returned as black tax. Hope you are aware? What made me reply your first mentions is your claim about VAT I told you VAT is generated from the money circulating within the economy. While in college overseas in my economics class. My economics professor never taught anything about( and everything my lecturers pointed about over 10 years ago is still a very big problem for African Nations) VAT is not on +ve sides on the assets in any country s balance sheet. So I mentioned place where earnings come on the assets side of the countrys balance sheet. These are: i. Oil earnings ii. Diaspora remittance iii. Foreign direct investment iv. Other exports like agriculture v. Customs, NPA, So Govt should focus on those areas that bring in foreign earnings VAT is more about money circulating within the country. Economic advisers should advice our leaders right. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by casualobserver: 5:53pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
TheGoodJoe:I never said it was govt revenue. I said it is an important source of forex. I will get to forex later. As for revenues. As a percentage of govt revenue it has fallen drastically. Like I said (perhaps on another thread) NNPC did not even remit any revenue for 18 months. Governments largest source of revenue comes from customs duty, CIT, VAT, etc. these. Revenues far exceed our current income from oil. Also we need to seperate onshore oil that is prone to militancy and offshore oil. We are increasingly reliant and only investing in offshore oil. This reduces the need impact of militancy. The issue with militancy is they unwittingly created a system that bypasses them. The multinationals have divested from onshore and all the new investments are offshore. Now to forex: Oil is important because it is a major source of forex but for over 8 years like I said it has not been the major source of forex. The. Problem in the past was that the forex coming in was “not in system” due to the forex regime we operated. With the reforms those inflows now become “part of the system” making the forex from the government less important. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:01pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
casualobserver:Wrong. Oil is our major source of government revenue. Take out oil, take out taxes from oil multinationals and you have a collapse of the system. Total collapse. Why do you think government, despite the oil revenue kept borrowing to run the system? The reliance to pay back the loan is mostly on crude exports. Finito. |
| Re: River State: Militants Blowing Up Oil Pipeline by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:03pm On Mar 18, 2025 |
djon78:Whoa.... The bolded is too deep and also frightening. Thanks for the update on this. |
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