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.. that whatever he does, they can do more.

After his demise, a believe system was founded around him.

Why today's believers not accept that they can consciously visit the heavens just as teachings like Bhudism, Sufism, Eckankar, Sikhism and even Science (Remote Viewing) claims is possible?

The idea is people will begin to live the actual thing that is referred to as the "spiritual life".

Man had been like that in the past. In distant civilizations now wiped from the surface of the earth

Man was a spirit-driven entity as against the current physics-driven.

A faint recollection of the innate faculties which man exercised better in the distant past ks today known as the "subconscious".

This faculty of man van be operated without it being a faint distant voice which most people will say is rather a "still small voice".

Problem is, "a believe system was founded around him", instead of a system of understanding.

Incidentally, my optician has opened way more eyes than Jesus did, and I know a surgeon who raised more dead than he did.

It's to do with the Word, which many assume to be only some holy book (the bread) instead of the ability to read and understand and learn (from every book that is inspired).

Basically, Jesus was saying "school is not scam". But people die for lack of knowledge.

budaatum:
Problem is, "a believe system was founded around him", instead of a system of understanding.

Incidentally, my optician has opened way more eyes than Jesus did, and I know a surgeon who raised more dead than he did.

It's to do with the Word, which many assume to be only some holy book (the bread) instead of the ability to read and understand and learn (from every book that is inspired).

Basically, Jesus was saying "school is not scam". But people die for lack of knowledge.

But the thing is all books written or unwritten are all "inspired".

To have a plane of existence where you can place a race of beings and others known as human, animal, elemental and so on like earth, you have to have everything existing as an "information set" where everything that is found there is equally important.

chieveboy:
But the thing is all books written or unwritten are all "inspired".

That is precisely the point. The optician and surgeon mentioned did not read bread alone.

chieveboy:
To have a plane of existence where you can place a race of beings and others known as human, animal, elemental and so on like earth, you have to have everything existing as an "information set" where everything that is found there is equally important.

Jesus did not "place a race of beings and others known as human, animal, elemental and so on like earth", anywhere.

He is written to have opened eyes and raised the dead, which surgeons and opticians do as their daily jobs. Jesus also taught humans to use their brains, which good teachers do daily too. Unfortunately, those who preach Jesus today want you to believe, which is the opposite of use your brain.

chieveboy:
.. that whatever he does, they can do more.

After his demise, a believe system was founded around him.

Why today's believers not accept that they can consciously visit the heavens just as teachings like Bhudism, Sufism, Eckankar, Sikhism and even Science (Remote Viewing) claims is possible?

People have been visiting heaven since even if they were not fully aware.

And neither have you been able relocate Benin, too big, your house from wherever it is to banana island.

budaatum:
Problem is, "a believe system was founded around him", instead of a system of understanding.

Incidentally, my optician has opened way more eyes than Jesus did, and I know a surgeon who raised more dead than he did...

In spite of the billion pagans who left their paganism to follow Him, you still blasphemed Him!

God Punish you!

StillDtruth:
People have been visiting heaven since even if they were not fully aware.

And neither have you been able relocate Benin, too big, your house from wherever it is to banana island.

I do not understand what you mean here sir

budaatum:
That is precisely the point. The optician and surgeon mentioned did not read bread alone.


Jesus did not "place a race of beings and others known as human, animal, elemental and so on like earth", anywhere.

I didn't say Jesus did

He is written to have opened eyes and raised the dead, which surgeons and opticians do as their daily jobs. Jesus also taught humans to use their brains, which good teachers do daily too. Unfortunately, those who preach Jesus today want you to believe, which is the opposite of use your brain.

Yea spot on

StillDtruth:
In spite of the billion pagans who left their paganism to follow Him, you still blasphemed Him!

God Punish you!

Are you an Obidient?

Most Christians don't know what they're made up of.

When you start looking up to fellow goofy humans (pastors, priests, prophets), you will lose that divine touch of the Spirit.

chieveboy:
➜.. that whatever he does, they can do more. After his demise, a believe system was founded around him. Why today's believers not accept that they can consciously visit the heavens just as teachings like Bhudism, Sufism, Eckankar, Sikhism and even Science (Remote Viewing) claims is possible?

A belief system founded by those whom Jesus Christ of Israel said were dogs and could not have that which is Holy— of Him and His Father? What makes those belief systems anything about Him if He, while alive, disavowed every such system? Are you OK?

WeirdAlien:
➜Most Christians don't know what they're made up of. When you start looking up to fellow goofy humans (pastors, priests, prophets), you will lose that divine touch of the Spirit.

Divine touch of which spirit? Would that be the very spirits those same fellow goofy humans fed you ideas of or some other spirits?

Kobojunkie:
A belief system founded by those whom Jesus Christ of Israel said were dogs and could not have that which is Holy— of Him and His Father? What makes those belief systems anything about Him if He, while alive, disavowed every such system? Are you OK?

If you're objective or sensible, you would reason that the basic quality of sentience and rationality is the capacity to belief and disbelief.

In other words: Any human is capable of believing anything. So where does "dogs" and whatnots fall in if at all you are requested to debunk that assertion?

WeirdAlien:
Most Christians don't know what they're made up of.

When you start looking up to fellow goofy humans (pastors, priests, prophets), you will lose that divine touch of the Spirit.

But this may largely not be their fault. They are made to look no other place other than the Bible for information.

The Bible does not form a complete compendium for knowledge, else, we would be studying it to become doctors, physicists and so on.

chieveboy:
➜If you're objective or sensible, you would reason that the basic quality of sentience and rationality is the capacity to belief and disbelief. In other words: Any human is capable of believing anything. So where does "dogs" and whatnots fall in if at all you are requested to debunk that assertion?

What in the world is this drivel meant for?

chieveboy:
But this may largely not be their fault. They are made to look no other place other than the Bible for information.

The Bible does not form a complete compendium for knowledge, else, we would be studying it to become doctors, physicists and so on.

There's a lot of knowledge in the Bible. But even as a Christian, I will tell you it is not comprehensive enough, even for deep spiritual knowledge and mysteries. But what I'd say is that, live your life with a pure heart towards people, with deep reverence to the maker of the heaven and earth, his son and spirit.
At the end of everything, all the hidden knowledge will become plain sight.

Kobojunkie:
Divine touch of which spirit? Would that be the very spirits those same fellow goofy humans fed you ideas of or some other spirits?

Easy put: you will abandon their teachings and start afresh with the Bible.

WeirdAlien:
➜Easy put: you will abandon their teachings and start afresh with the Bible.

Have you abandoned their teachings when the bulk of what you still hold on to comes from the tales fed to you by them?

WeirdAlien:
But what I'd say is that, live your life with a pure heart towards people, with deep reverence to the maker of the heaven and earth, his son and spirit.
At the end of everything, all the hidden knowledge will become plain sight.

I believe you are recommending Christianity here when the actual people who posses hidden knowledge are mostly not Christians negating the idea that God reveals things only to those who follow him the Christian way.

Kobojunkie:
Have you abandoned their teachings when the bulk of what you still hold on to comes from the tales fed to you by them?

Na trouble you dey find. I've got none to give you sorry. Choose another target.

chieveboy:
I believe you are recommending Christianity here when the actual people who posses hidden knowledge are mostly not Christians negating the idea that God reveals things only to those who follow him the Christian way.

There is a price for knowledge.
It's like suddenly waking up from the matrix. Everything you once loved and cherished, all the things you enjoyed will turn to nonsense and ashes in your eyes. You will never see this world the same again.
It might look trivial, but the people around you will notice your disconnect from "their reality".

Most people think deep knowledge will make them more successful in this world, but the more they know, the less everything in this world will mean to them.

Really, just enjoy your life and look forward to the last day, when all crooked things would be made straight.
I'm not suggesting the "Christianity" you know through the churches. Christ's message is almost something else entirely. I don't know how wide you've seen. But if you have, you'd agree every major religion made mention of Jesus Christ (called different names).

WeirdAlien:
There is a price for knowledge.
It's like suddenly waking up from the matrix. Everything you once loved and cherished, all the things you enjoyed will turn to nonsense and ashes in your eyes. You will never see this world the same again.
It might look trivial, but the people around you will notice your disconnect from "their reality".

People pursuing mysticism especially online like to make this statement. I can assure you that most people who "disconnect" are people who are actually imbalanced spiritually and did not have the real spiritual enlightenment. The actual people who have the main thing embrace life with new vigor although with a new understanding about the place of things they once held and accepted differently.

Spiritual Imbalance is the portion enjoyed by most people who have gone "crazy". Enlightenment when pursued through hook and crook (drugs, certain herbs, magic, etc) is sure to lead to an imbalance which is not so different from insanity.

This is why anyone who pursues it must do so firstly with the purest of intentions, and then they must as a matter of necessity follow a teacher who had reached the basic submit of God-realization itself to show them the way and guide them. Else they hang out with imposters and crooks in the high places.

{quote} Most people think deep knowledge will make them more successful in this world, but the more they know, the less everything in this world will mean to them.[/quote]This is true, but the application of the 'balancing principle' in life ( 'Rightful Discrimination') would give you the possessor of knowledge edge and the insight to not be for or against anything. This means you could accumulate money simply because it is needed to accomplish a goal, and no longer as result of greed, lust or vanity.

Really, just enjoy your life and look forward to the last day, when all crooked things would be made straight.
I'm not suggesting the "Christianity" you know through the churches. Christ's message is almost something else entirely. I don't know how wide you've seen. But if you have, you'd agree every major religion made mention of Jesus Christ (called different names).

My brother, there is no "Last day". Time exists NOW. FOREVER is what we are actually experiencing.
This is why I made this post to ask Christians and present the idea of going beyond their physical sense to see time as it really is. Doing so will allow you see the future and know whaetever Christians are brought up to believe they can only know when they die or only in the "sweet bye and bye".

People are already doing it. Going to heaven daily and waking up to report what they see and know. Scientists too have found a way to do it.

chieveboy:
People pursuing mysticism especially online like to make this statement. I can assure you that most people who "disconnect" are people who are actually imbalanced spiritually and did not have the real spiritual enlightenment. The actual people who have the main thing embrace life with new vigor although with a new understanding about the place of things they once held and accepted differently.

Spiritual Imbalance is the portion enjoyed by most people who have gone "crazy". Enlightenment when pursued through hook and crook (drugs, certain herbs, magic, etc) is sure to lead to an imbalance which is not so different from insanity.

This is why anyone who pursues it must do so firstly with the purest of intentions, and then they must as a matter of necessity follow a teacher who had reached the basic submit of God-realization itself to show them the way and guide them. Else they hang out with imposters and crooks in the high places.

{quote} Most people think deep knowledge will make them more successful in this world, but the more they know, the less everything in this world will mean to them.

This is true, but the application of the 'balancing principle' in life ( 'Rightful Discrimination') would give you the possessor of knowledge edge and the insight to not be for or against anything. This means you could accumulate money simply because it is needed to accomplish a goal, and no longer as result of greed, lust or vanity.

Really, just enjoy your life and look forward to the last day, when all crooked things would be made straight.
I'm not suggesting the "Christianity" you know through the churches. Christ's message is almost something else entirely. I don't know how wide you've seen. But if you have, you'd agree every major religion made mention of Jesus Christ (called different names).

My brother, there is no "Last day". Time exists NOW. FOREVER is what we are actually experiencing.
This is why I made this post to ask Christians and present the idea of going beyond their physical sense to see time as it really is. Doing so will allow you see the future and know whaetever Christians are brought up to believe they can only know when they die or only in the "sweet bye and bye".

People are already doing it. Going to heaven daily and waking up to report what they see and know. Scientists too have found a way to do it.

Everything you said here is based on your religious convictions, be it organised religion or a societal body. I don't know which, but you sound like Eck.
Religion is just light (God) passing through a prism (man), manifesting in many colours.
Either way, you've quoted me out of context. I'm not talking about running mad, or becoming spiritually imbalanced. I'm talking about the humility, self and environmental awareness that comes with deep knowledge. How you manage that is the fine line between "enlightened"and "insane".
The "balancing principle" you mentioned is simply put - limiting your depth of knowledge.
And if you wanna know, the things we enjoy in this life are all vanity, intangible, elusive, surreal.... None of it is real. When you come to this reality, you got two options - the blue pill or the red pill. I've never met anyone who chose red in person.
Time itself is a dimension like length and width. There's always a starting point and an endpoint from the perspective of the observer.

chieveboy:
My brother, there is no "Last day". Time exists NOW. FOREVER is what we are actually experiencing.
This is why I made this post to ask Christians and present the idea of going beyond their physical sense to see time as it really is. Doing so will allow you see the future and know whaetever Christians are brought up to believe they can only know when they die or only in the "sweet bye and bye".

And this is where you prove you people are Satanists and one of the many children of Satan and doing exactly what Satan did to female Adam and permanently destroyed her and mankind with Lies.

For time is just like the weather above us but nevertheless, it is still a servant of God.

And God has already told us the future which today we all see the signs of Last Days.

So you see you are the devil just like Satan come again to Lie and kill people just like Satan did to female Adam and mankind at the beginning

May God punish both now and forever!

StillDtruth:
And this is where you prove you people are Satanists and one of the many children of Satan and doing exactly what Satan did to female Adam and permanently destroyed her and mankind with Lies.

For time is just like the weather above us but nevertheless, it is still a servant of God.

And God has already told us the future which today we all see the signs of Last Days.

So you see you are the devil just like Satan come again to Lie and kill people just like Satan did to female Adam and mankind at the beginning

May God punish both now and forever!

Satan is a faithful servant of God from my understanding and also from his interactions with God.

Without Satan, no one would value God, without God, Satan would not have existed. So they complement one another and are inseperable.

So cursing one is cursing the other as they both are in service to life.

chieveboy:
Satan is a faithful servant of God from my understanding and also from his interactions with God.

Rubbish.

Servants live with their Masters. Satan was casted out

Servants are plead the authority of their Masters. Satan never raises he acts under the authority of God.

And Masters do not put their servants in prisons if the servant did his will. But God throws Satan into a Fire Prison.

So you are talking rubbish and you will burn with Satan forever as God shall punish you both here and forever

chieveboy:
Without Satan, no one would value God, without God, Satan would not have existed. So they complement one another and are inseperable.

Then this is even a more stupid talk for now you say that they are both equal like the right and left hand.

Whereas you said that Satan is God's servant and a servant is super lesser than his Master.

See how you are contradicting yourself because you Lie?

WeirdAlien:
Everything you said here is based on your religious convictions, be it organised religion or a societal body. I don't know which, but you sound like Eck.

I did not hear myself mentioning any religion.

Religion is just light (God) passing through a prism (man), manifesting in many colours.

Talking about "religion", where did you get this? Science? I do not think so.

All things are Thought expressed.

Either way, you've quoted me out of context. I'm not talking about running mad, or becoming spiritually imbalanced. I'm talking about the humility, self and environmental awareness that comes with deep knowledge. How you manage that is the fine line between "enlightened"and "insane".

The bolden should have been what you said. But if you are balanced, you actually love life and indulge with it with new (informed) vigor as mentioned. You understand that it is an illusion, but you get the grand scope and purpose of it as intended by most enlightened of all--the Supreme Deity.

The "balancing principle" you mentioned is simply put - limiting your depth of knowledge.

That is actually not it I'm sorry. Balancing actually comes from a lot of knowledge of how why one needs to implement it, how and when. You may be assuming that knowledge leads to imbalance, but it is actually a 'knowledgeable ignorance ' or 'half knowledge' and actions from such that leads to spiritual imbalances.

Think of someone who realizes plants are souls and they stop eating them out of guilt. That's half knowledge.

And if you wanna know, the things we enjoy in this life are all vanity, intangible, elusive, surreal.... None of it is real.

Sorry again, nothing is good or bad in itself. Nothing is vanity in itself. Everything is both real and unreal. You spoke about a fine line earlier...

When you come to this reality, you got two options - the blue pill or the red pill. I've never met anyone who chose red in person.
Time itself is a dimension like length and width. There's always a starting point and an endpoint from the perspective of the observer.

Like I was explaining to a Christian Curser above, both the red and blue pill made of same thing. Without the other, the other is useless and would not exist. Both are usefull for the grand purpose of why the "unreal" worlds exist and why Souls are made to partake in it.

StillDtruth:
Rubbish.

Servants live with their Masters. Satan was casted out

Servants are plead the authority of their Masters. Satan never raises he acts under the authority of God.

And Masters do not put their servants in prisons if the servant did his will. But God throws Satan into a Fire Prison.

So you are talking rubbish and you will burn with Satan forever as God shall punish you both here and forever

Who are we to say that your current angry deposition is not you experiencing hell and punishment already?

By the way, like i told you, God and the Devil are all partners. The head and tail of a coin are the same.

Good and Bad are on the same coin. Without Good, Bad would not be relevant or exist, without Bad, the other would be valueless.

chieveboy:
Who are we to say that your current angry deposition is not you experiencing hell and punishment already?

Off Point!
Besides, rebuking evils like you, means I am not in hell for in hell, there is only suffering and torment. No rebuking there.

chieveboy:
By the way, like i told you, God and the Devil are all partners. The head and tail of a coin are the same.

Good and Bad are on the same coin. Without Good, Bad would not be relevant or exist, without Bad, the other would be valueless.

And I have told you that you are talking rubbish for you first said that he was a servant of God and now I have answered you that Masters do not put their servants in prisons if the servant did his will. But God throws Satan into a Fire Prison.

Secondly,God is The Maker of the coin where Satan is.

And the Maker of the Coin is never on the coin.

So you are talking rubbish, Satan and God will punish you both now and forever as He did to Eve and to Satan!