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rotecch77:
Did you know that materials covered about 65-75pec of total cost of construction ?

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Some of us care ooo. I will soon take front seat in your lecture room. Ramada Kareem, to all our muslims brothers and sister.

kopell:
Why should labor base on the cost of project? I don't understand this

Exactly 💯, I.dont understand why a builder is pushing this narrative. Asking for and normalising 25% -35% cost of building is thievery.

Why should I pay you 35m for building an 100m building 👷‍♂️ project.

Celepope:
In one of my project, the person doing the plastering is saying he isn’t going to plaster the deckings in the first and second floor of the house because they will be covered by PoP. Also he is saying he doesn’t plaster (rough) kitchens and bathrooms because the tiler will still end up making use of plastering mix while installing tiles in these areas. Are these normal?

yes he is right ,

kopell:
Please don't let them convince you to do anything back door deal, lagos state will come hard on you. Stability test is not a letter, it is a complete test report that will be submitted. I hope that your assessment fee is correct, because assessment is based on size of building and height , including security, generator, even dog house on the land will be measure. If you don't have them on the drawing, they will come for physical inspection, if anything different from your drawing, they will reassess you for additional fee. Tax bill to high, if you don't want to expose your income from abroad, they have standard average income tax of 1.5m they charge. If you're lucky to be handlining 2 projects at the same time, that amount cover those 2 projects as far they are in the same year. Good luck

Alright. Thanks for the feedback. Definitely wouldn't be doing the backdoor deal. I'll try to see if I can beat down the tax money.

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Please what’s the current price range for architectural designs/drawings for a 3bed room bungalow. Thanks

Guys please kindly help a brother out here. I just need industry standard pricing so I don't get extorted. Thanks

Ayohbk:
Sorry, I didn't See the last sentence before. Do you mean the total amount to pay for everything on the list should be around 2m or you meant the tax?

To be honest, you shouldn't be paying any of these fees. But the Nigerian civil service up and down the country is fantastically corrupt.

You have been sent a list for BUILDING APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS. That building you bought has already been approved since the 1980s. So that list and all that is contain therefrom is for a new development. It has nothing to do with your situation. That building is your residential building now (so to speak). Now, is the Lagos state govt telling me that I need to pay 4.3mil to renovate my property? Well, I and the people I know have never paid anything on that list for old purchased properties in Lagos state. I have some experience. To me personally, that list sent to you is a list largely to extort you.

Your situation, from what you posted is that you bought a building that you want to improve to add value. In my experience, I pay "ratification" fee to the Bale of the area and "development" fee to the omonile(s). That's all. I do not approach the Lagos state government for anything. So all this ASSESSMENT MONEY, TAX MONEY, LUPA(R) PAYMENT, PROCESSING FEE, this fee, that fee is something I have NEVER experienced with old property purchases in Lagos state. New development? Yes but not for a renovated property.

However, has that building been served a property at risk and unsafe Notice? Has the property been served a demolition notice? If yes, there is a different route to follow to improve the building not Building Approval route. If the building has not been served anything, I will contact a structural engineer and renovate my building jejeje. I no fit shout.

kopell:
Some of us care ooo. I will soon take front seat in your lecture room. Ramada Kareem, to all our muslims brothers and sister.

Thanks baba agbalagba
I will surely post it bit by bit

FACTORS THAT INFLUENCE LABOR COST/RATIO

Several external and internal factors can impact labor ratios:

Project Complexity: Complex projects often require specialized labor, increasing costs.

Geographic Location: Regions with higher living costs typically see increased wages.

Market Conditions: Labor shortages or high demand can drive wages up further.

Project Type: Residential, commercial, and industrial projects differ in labor demands.

Technology Adoption: Automation and prefabrication can improve productivity, reducing labor ratios over time.

VillageHustle:
Guys please kindly help a brother out here. I just need industry standard pricing so I don't get extorted. Thanks

Unless you are buying a pre made plan, there’s no fix price for a proposed plan.

The price will depend on the complexity of your design, and if you are just looking at a 2d drawing or wants a 3D visualization of the project

Just negotiate with your Architect

And if you are yet to get one
I invite you to take a look at our bungalow designs thread

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Na him go open him head say make them come scrape all this diaspora people often times when them say everything by the book I just laugh. Which book.

A major renovation that you chose to carry out ( where you have to evict all tenants) some money for omonile ( when I ready I go haggle for more that 2 hours so that them go say madam bring wetin you get) about 100k and labsca only if them come round as it has nothing to do with them if no structural issues identified prior so 50k and then somebody come say million , millions ha.

Even for painting that I did last year for my papa house we give omonile 15k roofing nko we pay( if I dey na just round of drinks). Those ones na necessary family stipend for when you need them for serious issues and a familiarisation issue.

Always try to do externals particularly windows and security iron while some tenants are still there. They act like unofficial security and then nobody gets to put eyes and you can lock up for the internals.

diordaves:
To be honest, you shouldn't be paying any of these fees. But the Nigerian civil service up and down the country is fantastically corrupt.

You have been sent a list for BUILDING APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS. That building you bought has already been approved since the 1980s. So that list and all that is contain therefrom is for a new development. It has nothing to do with your situation. That building is your residential building now (so to speak). Now, is the Lagos state govt telling me that I need to pay 4.3mil to renovate my property? Well, I and the people I know have never paid anything on that list for old purchased properties in Lagos state. I have some experience. To me personally, that list sent to you is a list largely to extort you.

Your situation, from what you posted is that you bought a building that you want to improve to add value. In my experience, I pay "ratification" fee to the Bale of the area and "development" fee to the omonile(s). That's all. I do not approach the Lagos state government for anything. So all this ASSESSMENT MONEY, TAX MONEY, LUPA(R) PAYMENT, PROCESSING FEE, this fee, that fee is something I have NEVER experienced with old property purchases in Lagos state. New development? Yes but not for a renovated property.

However, has that building been served a property at risk and unsafe Notice? Has the property been served a demolition notice? If yes, there is a different route to follow to improve the building not Building Approval route. If the building has not been served anything, I will contact a structural engineer and renovate my building jejeje. I no fit shout.

The last enquiry I made on this was between 200k and 400k about 6 years ago.

That was for a story building eight 1 bedroom.

VillageHustle:
Guys please kindly help a brother out here. I just need industry standard pricing so I don't get extorted. Thanks

Ayohbk:
Hi, Thanks for the reply. I am not in Nigeria. I'm in Germany .I have tax declaration of the country I live. Can I use that? Yes, all the documents are in my Name.

Can you please suggest how much I should negotiate for? Thanks

Please NEVER indicate to Lagos State Govt.. That you are in the diaspora. You are just looking for trouble. They will look at you as if you are an ATM machine.

Will send a detailed response later

gabbytabby:
Na him go open him head say make them come scrape all this diaspora people often times when them say everything by the book I just laugh. Which book.

A major renovation that you chose to carry out ( where you have to evict all tenants) some money for omonile ( when I ready I go haggle for more that 2 hours so that them go say madam bring wetin you get) about 100k and labsca only if them come round as it has nothing to do with them if no structural issues identified prior so 50k and then somebody come say million , millions ha.

Even for painting that I did last year for my papa house we give omonile 15k roofing nko we pay( if I dey na just round of drinks). Those ones na necessary family stipend for when you need them for serious issues and a familiarisation issue.

Always try to do externals particularly windows and security iron while some tenants are still there. They act like unofficial security and then nobody gets to put eyes and you can lock up for the internals.

My sister, I no just understand how building approval process takes enter renovation.

How body?

Bad advice full ground.

I even have brother that will go online and find the average cost of a set of drawings in the UK and was preparing to meet with someone in Nigeria who will do drawings for 2m plus believing that it means the person knows what he is doing. When I tire to chase am with the details of people that will do it for much less then I left him to it.

For over a year he was parading approval office and last him complain of same thing 3m or 4m tax after him done pay 3m before. Them go collect all building money from person if one is not careful.

Him done join the hide and seek gang. They have done decking.

Me I just ask for literature around the whole process so I know what I am dealing with going in.

diordaves:
My sister, I no just understand how building approval process takes enter renovation.

How body?

diordaves:
To be honest, you shouldn't be paying any of these fees. But the Nigerian civil service up and down the country is fantastically corrupt.

You have been sent a list for BUILDING APPROVAL REQUIREMENTS. That building you bought has already been approved since the 1980s. So that list and all that is contain therefrom is for a new development. It has nothing to do with your situation. That building is your residential building now (so to speak). Now, is the Lagos state govt telling me that I need to pay 4.3mil to renovate my property? Well, I and the people I know have never paid anything on that list for old purchased properties in Lagos state. I have some experience. To me personally, that list sent to you is a list largely to extort you.

Your situation, from what you posted is that you bought a building that you want to improve to add value. In my experience, I pay "ratification" fee to the Bale of the area and "development" fee to the omonile(s). That's all. I do not approach the Lagos state government for anything. So all this ASSESSMENT MONEY, TAX MONEY, LUPA(R) PAYMENT, PROCESSING FEE, this fee, that fee is something I have NEVER experienced with old property purchases in Lagos state. New development? Yes but not for a renovated property.

However, has that building been served a property at risk and unsafe Notice? Has the property been served a demolition notice? If yes, there is a different route to follow to improve the building not Building Approval route. If the building has not been served anything, I will contact a structural engineer and renovate my building jejeje. I no fit shout.

Thanks for your feedback. I already sent a message that I'm not ready to pay such money. I'll have a call with them on Tuesday with the info I got Here

gabbytabby:
Na him go open him head say make them come scrape all this diaspora people often times when them say everything by the book I just laugh. Which book.

A major renovation that you chose to carry out ( where you have to evict all tenants) some money for omonile ( when I ready I go haggle for more that 2 hours so that them go say madam bring wetin you get) about 100k and labsca only if them come round as it has nothing to do with them if no structural issues identified prior so 50k and then somebody come say million , millions ha.

Even for painting that I did last year for my papa house we give omonile 15k roofing nko we pay( if I dey na just round of drinks). Those ones na necessary family stipend for when you need them for serious issues and a familiarisation issue.

Always try to do externals particularly windows and security iron while some tenants are still there. They act like unofficial security and then nobody gets to put eyes and you can lock up for the internals.

Thanks for your feedback. The omo onile money was paid because we Just bought the building and we collected receipts for that. The reason I was insisting on going by the book is because buildings around the project are marked for demolition. So govt officials visit there regularly. I won't be paying the amount stated as advised. But since the plan is for a major renovation, I guess there's Still be significant outlay. It's just because I'm not around and I don't want to do anything that will stress my parents or siblings, having to go up and down begging govt officials. Previous trauma from This officials wey make me run comot 9ja, I still get the PTSD.

Did you know that cost of electrical work in a construction project typically falls within a range of 3% -10% of the total project cost( this covered materials, labour, overhead charges) , depending on factors like project complexity, material choices, and location

Port443:
Good morning guys, please I need feedback here, the person I got from Jiji is quoting 3.5k per square meters and he is not proving anything, even down to what to rent

That is his quotation here. For the record, the total square meters is 230 and he said we will need to do 10cm thickness

Hello sir is he based in Abuja? If yes then you can negotiate between 2kper sqm and 2500 per meter.. this materials he quoted though the cement is too small for 230sqm and the sand wouldn't be enough for 10cm thickness....... omoh this quote ehnnn

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Ayohbk:
Thanks for your feedback. The omo onile money was paid because we Just bought the building and we collected receipts for that. The reason I was insisting on going by the book is because buildings around the project are marked for demolition. So govt officials visit there regularly. I won't be paying the amount stated as advised. But since the plan is for a major renovation, I guess there's Still be significant outlay. It's just because I'm not around and I don't want to do anything that will stress my parents or siblings, having to go up and down begging govt officials. Previous trauma from This officials wey make me run comot 9ja, I still get the PTSD.

Here is the process: If YOUR building has not been served anything, my friend proceed to improvement work on your building. The so called govt official can visit the area as much as they like, it has nothing to do with you. You are renovating your building. Shikena!

There is a structural improvement work right now at Oworo (New garage) for a twin storey building. They are 1980's as well. Work will be completed next month. No such payment as being demanded from you. Only the Bale and the omonile. No disturbance and I'm not in the country as well. It is knowing what to do or else you will be taken to the cleaners.

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BIGGIE121:
Hello sir is he based in Abuja? If yes then you can negotiate between 2kper sqm and 2500 per meter.. this materials he quoted though the cement is too small for 230sqm and the sand wouldn't be enough for 10cm thickness....... omoh this quote ehnnn

You can message me on Whatsapp for a more detailed quotation 09068938839 ..

Thanks a lot. Same thing I told him. He said it will be enough and might extend to 65bags later. I'll drop you a message on WhatsApp now

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