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| Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by adenigga(op): 5:28am On Mar 25, 2025 |
The Federal Government said it is taking necessary steps to offset the N4.7tn debt owed to power generation companies to avert a possible nationwide blackout.Source: https://punchng.com/Power-generators-fear-collapse-over-N4.7tn-debt
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| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by IbnB: 5:37am On Mar 25, 2025 |
It's all embezzled, stolen money. No debt anywhere. This Adelabu Penkele dude is incompetent, needs to be replaced with someone smart or a power-sector veteran who understands the loopholes within the system |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by nairalanda1(m): 6:00am On Mar 25, 2025 |
4.7 trillion debt is essentially power subsidy debt....and half of the debt is legacy debt..ie debt owed by the rich, poor, and also by government institutions as well. (As stated in the report, an air force base owes N4 billion alone). That's why when I say that power companies should be allowed to set prices, it is because of issues like the debt. People here love to abuse me for stating the fact that the reason why we have issues with power supply is because our power sector is not allowed to set its prices. Because of that lack of deregulation, most of the time, we can't have good things...like 24 hour light a day...because the sector does not have the cash to pay for it. What's even scarier is that the experts say that we need something like 15 trillion naira annually...like half our budget...every year, to fix power supply to the level that would enable it meet our needs. Egypt that everyone loves copying now, has removed power subsides completely. And they disconnect anyone who does not pay for the power they use, rich or poor. That bit, we no wan copy. The funny thing is that people were cheering when DISCO officals were being beaten up by the airforce people. People that owe 4 billion naira in unpaid bills to the same DISCO is who you were cheering for. And after you will complain about having no light. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by lordopsy2018(m): 6:23am On Mar 25, 2025 |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by Dangrace01: 6:23am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Nawa |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by Osiris12: 6:24am On Mar 25, 2025 |
You can’t use propaganda to run a country. If it didn’t dey. It didn’t dey. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by Houseontherock1: 6:26am On Mar 25, 2025 |
IbnB:He "understands" the system...he knows every loophole, he's doing his best to "take advantage" of the loopholes...that's why he's there ![]() The power sector itself is a loophole that people are taking advantage of! It's sad that majority of Nigerians depend on the provision of this so-called power sector and that is why they will continue to milk the people till there's nothing to give anymore! All these may still end with price increase |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by Atarakpa: 6:28am On Mar 25, 2025 |
We are use to national grid collapsing so is not a new thing and you can't threaten us with that. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by RosyIsBlessed: 6:28am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Could this be the reason we don't have light since 4 a.m? |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by omoredia: 6:29am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Elon Musk is helping the giant US to stop waste and corruption. Nigerians celebrate it. 2mrw the same Nigerians will say Trump is wicked for not allowing them come to the US to ruin the US as they ruined their own country. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by Proudlyngwa(m): 6:31am On Mar 25, 2025 |
nairalanda1: Nigeria's power generating, transmission and distribution system is outdated and will never give value for money, most gencos and transmission lines should be dismantled and used for something else.If you studied electricity and know enough of I²R, you will know why gencos will keep on losing. If drilling companies can efficiently run power for half of some local government onshore and offshore in far remote areas, I wonder what is so difficult and why they need to go to Egypt to study anything. We just love bogus things in this country. Hopeless Gencos Useless Subsidy Foolish minister |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by dynicks(m): 6:46am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Tax/ electricity tariff increase... is that you knocking?...
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| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by EXOUSIAng: 6:46am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Nigerians don't pay for nothing, yet we want everything |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by Whalesideas65: 6:47am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Benin Republic and Togo owe Nigeria $8.84m for the electricity consumed in the fourth quarter of 2024, The PUNCH reports. Can they collect this money and use it to offset the debt adenigga: |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by tete7000(m): 6:56am On Mar 25, 2025 |
What happens to all of the money stolen. Everytime govt talked as if the bulk of this stops with the consumers, however the truth is that even most of the fees paid by consumers even for services never rendered them because of estimated billing were never remitted but embezzled. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by ceejay80s(m): 6:57am On Mar 25, 2025 |
IbnB:See how ugly and froggie face the adelabu guy be , he knows nothing about electric power, all he knows is to increase so tinubu will have more money |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by nairalanda1(m): 6:59am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Proudlyngwa:Which is kind of why, y'know, discos and gencos should charge at market prices, so that they can raise the funds for replacing outdated stuff. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by youngrhosy(m): 7:01am On Mar 25, 2025 |
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| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by happney65: 7:01am On Mar 25, 2025*. Modified: 7:18am On Mar 25, 2025 |
nairalanda1:I have always campaigned for all forms of subsidies in the power sector should be removed. But if you are removing it,let the people that will remove it also be responsible. I cant be paying through my nose for power and I will be the one to still fix transformer buy transformer or buy poles etc. You take charge 100percent. I branched to my local Nepa office last week to pick up my bill and I was amazed with what I saw. People owing Nepa bill of over 200K and above. Because we both searched for my bill together and I could see other people's bill. But can you blame them? Absolutely not. Those are estimated billings and you dont want me to pay for what I dont use. There are still many many areas where there is no light for days and weeks. Yet Nepa still brings estimated billing for them. We just did 2weeks of no power recently. My opinion has been. Truly privatise the sector and not this rubbish we are currently doing. Remove all forms of subsidies there and let serious investors come in.. We are not a serious country if we are still battling power problem all these years. It makes absolutely no sense |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by nairalanda1(m): 7:01am On Mar 25, 2025 |
happney65:I |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by bobbiiee: 7:11am On Mar 25, 2025 |
They have always wanted to increase the tarrifs of band B & C. They are gradually preparing the minds of the people fore the hike. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by Proudlyngwa(m): 7:17am On Mar 25, 2025 |
nairalanda1:Charging at market price is okay, but they are putting the price of inefficiency on Thier products knowing they are the only suppliers. Imagine a 300 KVA generator serves a community, the rarely have light not because they can't pay but because they can't all pay. So for them to constantly have light someone has to pay for someone that is the stupidity of Nigeria's power generation and transmission model. Now imagine an estate on 3 300 KVA generator connected by VFD when more power is required the engine ramps up, when it goes beyond the capacity of one gen, the second gen comes up, after a predetermined time one gen shuts down and the third gen comes on and that gen can be serviced . If much power is not needed the gen runs on near idle mode. Only those who can afford the true value are hooked up , this is how drilling rigs operate. The problem with our current model is , it is too bogus, much power is lost via transmission and distribution is unbalanced so how can they make money |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by nairalanda1(m): 7:25am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Proudlyngwa:Well, one could say the same thing about our telecoms industry from 2001-8. They charged high prices for very poor service, simply because the infrastructure was not there or was very poor to support GSM servicies and internet for all (infact it was non existent, so they had to build from scratch). The power sector faces the same problem. Generation has to be improved and expanded to 88000mw...which is the bare minimum needed to guarantee 24 hours a day light for all of this country. Transmission has to be improved. And a situation where , apart from Band A, most of the country is not paying or underpaying...where are they going to get the money from? Either Nigeria does as the USSR did and borrows massively,with the debt coming back to bite us in the arshe, or the power sector gets deregulated, like, you know, Ivory coast did in the early 1990's, with the result that funding flowed in from the World bank and from investors. (IN Ivory coast, unless you are over 40 years of age, you won't have known grid collapses). They need to charge better to pay for improvements, just as the telcos were charging sky high prices to pay for the GSM and internet backbone that we rely on for so many things. Imagine a 300 KVA generator serves a community, the rarely have light not because they can't pay but because they can't all pay.They are prevented from making more money by the fact that government controls their prices. Price controls is a nice way of winning votes, and making people feel good, but it is also why our power sector since it was privatised cannot pay for improvements and attract foreign investments. Make we be honest with ourselves. Even if what you say is right, the issue of raising money remains. And government cannot afford to spend half our annual budget yearly , with the resultant deficit, over the next ten years, fixing power, which would still be subsidised, and which would still break down. Fvck capitalism, but sadly it stays afloat because people wanna be paid. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by nairalanda1(m): 7:34am On Mar 25, 2025 |
happney65:Well, in 2001-5 we all paid through our noses for GSM services that in many ways were batshit poor, and did not reach everyone. (Why Nigerians have two GSM Lines is not because of show or because we are rich, but because in the early days, one could not call between networks, or call a NITEL Landline ). The money was used to pay for improvements and to attract more investment. Today, I can call oversease, call any village in nigeria, and use internet in most urban and even many rural areas. That was not possible in 2003. Here in NIgeria, most of us refuse to pay for power at all, or underpay, due to price controls, and also deliberately. (My disco has a lot of rural areas where people pay N2000 for power, even if they used 20000 worth of power that month). That's why they rip us off via estimated billing....they have to do that or their financial situation would be worse. Also, on Nigerians paying for wires and transformers. Over 30 years ago, I was attending a primary school where my parents paid fees of N250 per term. The school was over 16 kms from our house...so imagine the fuel costs. There was a government school that was costing fees of N50 or less within a shouting disitance from my house.. Students attending the government school had to buy books, buy desk and buy pencils and pens. We in the private school...got books, pens and pencils and desks. If a book finished, we simply went to the school store and got a new one straight up. Only once did I have to go and buy a new book...because the school stores supplier had been delayed and the stores were empty. Once in my 6 years of attending that school. So, why won't your power company be making you buy stuff. Most of us are not paying market price for power, so they cannot make the profit to pay for those things. Life. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by lexy2014: 7:36am On Mar 25, 2025 |
nairalanda1:How can 4.7tr naira be subsidy debt? What is subsidy? If you claim that half of 4.7tr is owed by government agencies, what happened to the money meant to pay for electricity consumed? Will electricity companies setting their own tariffs to the high heavens prevent the military from owing and using free light? |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by id4sho(m): 7:37am On Mar 25, 2025 |
Useless country, industries now install solar🤷 |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by nairalanda1(m): 7:37am On Mar 25, 2025 |
lexy2014:Hi Lexy, you are looking very beautiful this morning. Hope your preparation for the MIss Nigeria contest is going on successfully. Good luck and I hope you win. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by lexy2014: 7:40am On Mar 25, 2025 |
nairalanda1:So are you. Hope your preparation for the MIss Nigeria contest is going on successfully. Good luck and I hope you win. How can 4.7tr naira be subsidy debt? What is subsidy? If you claim that half of 4.7tr is owed by government agencies, what happened to the money meant to pay for electricity consumed? Will electricity companies setting their own tariffs to the high heavens prevent the military from owing and using free light? |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by cucumbar: 7:40am On Mar 25, 2025 |
adenigga:All the tarrif Una Dey increase without giving us light, what have you been using them for ? |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by nairalanda1(m): 7:41am On Mar 25, 2025 |
lexy2014:I am not a beauty queen. You are. How can 4.7tr naira be subsidy debt?If you want to keep something from Lexy, put it in writing. |
| Re: Power Generators Fear Collapse Over ₦4.7 Trillion Debt by UncleJJ(m): 7:44am On Mar 25, 2025 |
IbnB: ceejay80s:Sir's, your assumptions are correct. -------- Houseontherock1:Sir, a coward dies a thousand times before his death -------- NOTES. 1. The minister of power is an accountant, that miraculously became deputy governor CBN. Prof Barth Nnaji is a square peg in a square hole. 2. In the last elections he ran in the gubernatorial primaries for Oyo state ; under APC. 3. Power sector as of today is riddled with debt, and held by the jugular by Pacific Energy. Adelabu is there to protect the "interest" of few. 4. Every time you feel the brunt of epileptic power - think Pacific Energy; Deji Adeleke. 5. Yes, David Adeleke's father is a tsar in the energy sector, his holdings benefit from the epileptic power supply in our dear country. 6. 41 trillion naira debt; Pacific energy receives loans, tax credit, and other benefits from banks to give us epileptic power. It is akin to pouring water in an attempt to fill a basket. 7. Pacific energy is the reason; El-Rufai was humiliated by Sen. Sunday Karimi - a pro-Tinubu pawn, and serial defector who justified N160,000,000 SUV purchases in the senate. 8. Pacific energy is the reason Tinubu turned around "changed his mind" on the agreement with El-Rufai - where El-Rufai would work on the power industry. 9. El-Rufai would systematically disassemble Pacific Energy. Going by his antecedents with BPE (bureau of public enterprises) See El-Rufai vs Chief Adenuga (GLO). |
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Nigeria's power generating, transmission and distribution system is outdated and will never give value for money, most gencos and transmission lines should be dismantled and used for something else.