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Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by nairalanda1(m): 9:21am On Mar 25, 2025
Basic123:
Who is the new people?
64yro former governor of Anambrahuh
People like you.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by mightyhaze: 9:24am On Mar 25, 2025
ZombidiotFools:
That guy has been supporting APC before you registered on this platform.

I have been here quite long if not that Mods banned me for long and I deactivated.

I'm a fanatic APC supporter, but you see this administration of Tinubu?
Before God and man, Tinubu is not doing well.
Tinubu is doing a fantastic job.. curing zombies like ur name implies grin
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Basic123: 9:25am On Mar 25, 2025
nairalanda1:
People like you.
Okay
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by nairalanda1(m): 9:33am On Mar 25, 2025
Basic123:
Okay
Yes, YOU.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by UncleJJ(m): 9:37am On Mar 25, 2025
PassingShot:
Why do I say this?

1. His mismanagement of the economy and encouraging his appointees, through his silence, to blame it on his predecessor (PMB).
2. His meddling in the Lagos Assembly leadership tussle that resulted in returning a speaker that was validly removed.
3. His undemocratic removal of Rivers state governor and the elected reps there, just to ensure that Wike has the final say. He could, and should have allowed Fubara to be impeached if he could not mediate properly. That would have been democratic and heaven will not fall had Fubara been impeached.
4. The revelation that the NASS members were bribed to support his military-styled removal of a sitting governor - something he had vehemently condemned in the past!
5. His son's involvement in how the country is governed.

I can go on and on. He is becoming a tyrant and may easily destroy what is left of our democracy.

He is another disappointment. Seems all of them are, sadly so.
Close enough - If I am allowed; to add. As helinues - dared us (Nigeria).
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I will start by deciphering Pres. Tinubu as a weak national politician - a regional overlord at best. As a consequence and, by electoral mandate of the people - a non-nationalist; though many want us to believe otherwise.
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NOTES:
1. President Tinubu pocketed 36% of the total in last election. V.P Atiku A. got 29% came second.
2. Pres. Tinubu received the lowest votes (expressed a percentage of the total votes) in the 4th republic - see attachment
3. Total votes were about 11,100,000.
4. Look at the progression from Obasanjo to Yar'adua; Yar'adua to Jonathan, and Buhari to Tinubu. Here we are interested in nos of votes bequeath.
5. Nos of votes bequeath in Nigeria politics refers to nos of votes a political benefactor or ancestor can successfully transfer to a descendant, let's refer to this as SAFEGUARD - political safeguard (theory of political safeguard).
6. My theory on factors that determine successful transfer of votes (political safeguard) from ancestor to descendant should be left for another day.
7. Returning to No. 4: Obasanjo transferred 24,000,000 (100% safeguard) to Yar'adua; Yar'adua transferred 22,000,000 (96% safeguard) to Jonathan.
8. Briefly - Why Jonathan really lost the election? One of the benefits of the safeguard is that it guarantees re-election. Looking at the 2015 election between Jonathan and Buhari is over 27,000,000 votes. That is the 22,000,000 Yar'adua bequeath to Jonathan, and then some.
9. However, that 22,000,000 was split between Buhari, and Jonathan. Buhari pocketed the lion share - 53.9% of total votes.
10. Using the analogy in 7, 8 and 9 - it becomes clear why Pres. Tinubu is a weak national politician.
11. Firstly, Buhari bequeath about 48%. He transferred 8,794,726. The rest was split between: Atiku. A 6,984,520; Peter Obi 6,101,533, and Rabiu K. 1,496,687.
12. Adding the nos in 11 - You will get the value bequeath to Jonathan from Yar'adua, and consequently Obasanjo.
13. But, how did Buhari manage to successfully convert 50% of Jonathan's political inheritance.
14. July 2013: INEC ratified the merger of factions from the following parties to form APC; PDP, APGA, CPC, ACN, and ANPP.
15. Don't take lightly, as many would have you believe, about the consequences of El-Rufai's move from APC to SDP.

Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by ZombidiotFools: 10:02am On Mar 25, 2025
mightyhaze:
Tinubu is doing a fantastic job.. curing zombies like ur name implies grin
I'm not a zombie, if I were, I wouldn't make that comment.

Check well you will know who zombies are.

We are for better Nigeria.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Xammie001(m): 10:03am On Mar 25, 2025
PassingShot:
Why do I say this?

1. His mismanagement of the economy and encouraging his appointees, through his silence, to blame it on his predecessor (PMB).
2. His meddling in the Lagos Assembly leadership tussle that resulted in returning a speaker that was validly removed.
3. His undemocratic removal of Rivers state governor and the elected reps there, just to ensure that Wike has the final say. He could, and should have allowed Fubara to be impeached if he could not mediate properly. That would have been democratic and heaven will not fall had Fubara been impeached.
4. The revelation that the NASS members were bribed to support his military-styled removal of a sitting governor - something he had vehemently condemned in the past!
5. His son's involvement in how the country is governed.

I can go on and on. He is becoming a tyrant and he may easily destroy what is left of our democracy.

He is another disappointment. Seems all of them are, sadly so.
We are all human, and naturally, we interpret events based on our perspectives and experiences. However, discussions should be grounded in facts and logical reasoning rather than emotions.

Providing a Scenario – Can you present a specific instance or scenario to support your argument? Real-life examples help strengthen a position and provide clarity.

The Power of Influence – Influence is a key factor in leadership and decision-making. Sometimes, people initially resist a decision but later align with the consensus. This is not necessarily manipulation; it’s a reflection of negotiation and persuasion at work. Even in politics, as seen with parties like PDP and Labour Party, internal divisions weaken collective strength.

Presidential Intervention – How many times did the President reach out to the governor and opposing parties, urging them to resolve their differences before exercising his constitutional authority? Good leadership involves exhausting diplomatic channels before enforcing decisions.

Allegations of Bribery – If there are claims of bribery, is there concrete proof? Who has come forward to reject such offers publicly? Without credible evidence, accusations remain speculative and unfounded.

Family in Politics – Nepotism is a common topic in global politics, but it’s not unique to any one leader. Even Donald Trump openly praised his son, who holds a political position and actively supports his father’s work. The real issue should be whether individuals attain these positions through merit or undue favoritism.

At the end of the day, it’s important to approach discussions with objectivity. Let’s move beyond bitterness and focus on the facts. A strong argument is built on truth, not assumptions.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by ZombidiotFools: 10:06am On Mar 25, 2025
helinues:
Your opinion which we respected.

Could you guys also respect our opinions too?
It's not an opinion, it's a proven fact.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Xammie001(m): 10:07am On Mar 25, 2025
thank you for this analysis, now the overall data is showing us that the electorates are declining and political gladiators are rising, so where did President Tinubu now flawed because all you have said here or shown is nothing really.
UncleJJ:
Close enough - If I am allowed; to add. As helinues - dared us (Nigeria).
----
I will start by deciphering Pres. Tinubu as a weak national politician - a regional overlord at best. As a consequence and, by electoral mandate of the people - a non-nationalist; though many want us to believe otherwise.
----
NOTES:
1. President Tinubu pocketed 36% of the total in last election. V.P Atiku A. got 29% came second.
2. Pres. Tinubu received the lowest votes (expressed a percentage of the total votes) in the 4th republic - see attachment
3. Total votes were about 11,100,000.
4. Look at the progression from Obasanjo to Yar'adua; Yar'adua to Jonathan, and Buhari to Tinubu. Here we are interested in nos of votes bequeath.
5. Nos of votes bequeath in Nigeria politics refers to nos of votes a political benefactor or ancestor can successfully transfer to a descendant, let's refer to this as SAFEGUARD - political safeguard (theory of political safeguard).
6. My theory on factors that determine successful transfer of votes (political safeguard) from ancestor to descendant should be left for another day.
7. Returning to No. 4: Obasanjo transferred 24,000,000 (100% safeguard) to Yar'adua; Yar'adua transferred 22,000,000 (96% safeguard) to Jonathan.
8. Briefly - Why Jonathan really lost the election? One of the benefits of the safeguard is that it guarantees re-election. Looking at the 2015 election between Jonathan and Buhari is over 27,000,000 votes. That is the 22,000,000 Yar'adua bequeath to Jonathan, and then some.
9. However, that 22,000,000 was split between Buhari, and Jonathan. Buhari pocketed the lion share - 53.9% of total votes.
10. Using the analogy in 7, 8 and 9 - it becomes clear why Pres. Tinubu is a weak national politician.
11. Firstly, Buhari bequeath about 48%. He transferred 8,794,726. The rest was split between: Atiku. A 6,984,520; Peter Obi 6,101,533, and Rabiu K. 1,496,687.
12. Adding the nos in 11 - You will get the value bequeath to Jonathan from Yar'adua, and consequently Obasanjo.
13. But, how did Buhari manage to successfully convert 50% of Jonathan's political inheritance.
14. July 2013: INEC ratified the merger of factions from the following parties to form APC; PDP, APGA, CPC, ACN, and ANPP.
15. Don't take lightly, as many would have you believe, about the consequences of El-Rufai's move from APC to SDP.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by UncleJJ(m): 10:37am On Mar 25, 2025
Xammie001:
thank you for this analysis, now the overall data is showing us that the electorates are declining and political gladiators are rising, so where did President Tinubu now flawed because all you have said here or shown is nothing really.
A little busy now; but will indulge for others who can ask similar questions.

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NOTES
1. Return to the original post by passingshot, also return to the reasons (true or false) for the merger of 2013 that formed APC (pdp, apga, cpc, acn, anpp)
2. Take Nasir El-Rufai's move from APC to SDP into account
3. Take all defections to APC, from APC into account
4. Take the price of fuel and its real not perceived consequences on the Nigerian economy - fuel importation preference
5. Take the bitter disposition of farmers in the north; although in hushed tones about Tinubu's regime massive penchant for food importation.
6. Take into account that Pres. Tinubu has two strong contenders with 6 million votes each.
7. This regime has schemes, programmes, declarations, and so forth. All of them fall nothing short of putting lipstick on a pig.
8. Nothing they have done, has direct impact on the masses. You could call Buhari all sorts of names, but he respected the masses, even though he appeared to operate from a nebular.
9. He kept fuel prices low, food prices low. As a reward, he kept 15,000,000 votes from first term to second term.
10. Tinubu's 8 million votes show half of the voters that believed Buhari in first and second term; doubted Tinubu.
11. The current malaise of the economy and consequent of the populace (rich or poor) bear credence to the assumption of those who decided to vote either Atiku or Obi.
12. The masses don't understand GDP or any of that mumbo jumbo, those who do can't seem to see the light at the end of the tunnel as everything in this country hinges on fuel prices. They masses only know how much they can buy with the money in their pockets.
13. The petroleum minister President Tinubu has a strategic advantage in this case with Dangote Refinery but for some reason prefers Agip now OandO, matrix energy, Shafa, and A.A Rano
14. Perhaps Dangote refinery will be his last card when all fails?
15. An example - the Nigerian GDP has been rebased, but internet tariffs increased. In fact, without the help of the north; the intelligent southerners including myself and our businesses would be contending with 15% VAT.

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Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by bdon12: 10:42am On Mar 25, 2025
tundegan:
He is not a tyrant, you people are just playing mind games with the word tyranny.

The president is doing his best and he will get there.
U sure he is not a tyrant ?
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Newsmills: 10:59am On Mar 25, 2025
A piece sponsor by the presidency,gifting write up.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Uchek(m): 11:04am On Mar 25, 2025
OLODO!

PassingShot:
Why do I say this?

1. His mismanagement of the economy and encouraging his appointees, through his silence, to blame it on his predecessor (PMB).
2. His meddling in the Lagos Assembly leadership tussle that resulted in returning a speaker that was validly removed.
3. His undemocratic removal of Rivers state governor and the elected reps there, just to ensure that Wike has the final say. He could, and should have allowed Fubara to be impeached if he could not mediate properly. That would have been democratic and heaven will not fall had Fubara been impeached.
4. The revelation that the NASS members were bribed to support his military-styled removal of a sitting governor - something he had vehemently condemned in the past!
5. His son's involvement in how the country is governed.

I can go on and on. He is becoming a tyrant and he may easily destroy what is left of our democracy.

He is another disappointment. Seems all of them are, sadly so.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by presido11: 11:29am On Mar 25, 2025
zero8zero:
Loads of bullshit.. All your narratives only exists in your imagination. Exactly what paid opposition newspapers wanted to achieve, fabricate lies and repeat them again and again to make it sound true, so that gullible people like the OP would believe it as truth.
He even quoted the gossip blogs saying the Senate was bribed to pass the SOE in Rivers, but ask him for proofs, he won't be able to provide it.
is he not your fellow zomB and Ronu miscreant. When did he become opposition newspaper?
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Validated: 11:44am On Mar 25, 2025
helinues:
Is that all or do you have any other things to add?
The fact that you no get job aside NL commentator
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by presido11: 11:46am On Mar 25, 2025
Gandollar:
That's why he must not get a second term.

Nigerians would collect his money but vote according to their conscience.
EyeNEC is the decider not Nigerians.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by helinues: 11:46am On Mar 25, 2025
Validated:
The fact that you no get job aside NL commentator
Na your parents dey pay my bills?
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Dotherightthing: 11:47am On Mar 25, 2025
Anytime you see abokis complaining about the country, just know something is being done right by the president cheesy
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by DesChyko: 11:53am On Mar 25, 2025
Misterone:
You guys said he was a slowpoke and half dead. 😆😆😆 When Peter Obi refused to conduct LGA elections for 8 years, was he a tyrant or the best thing after fried rice?
You are not more APC than who you quoted. Go over his timeline, ode.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by presido11:
Dotherightthing:
Anytime you see abokis complaining about the country, just know something is being done right by the president cheesy
So when they complained about GEJ he was actually doing something right?
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by zero8zero(m): 11:56am On Mar 25, 2025
UncleJJ:
Close enough - If I am allowed; to add. As helinues - dared us (Nigeria).
----
I will start by deciphering Pres. Tinubu as a weak national politician - a regional overlord at best. As a consequence and, by electoral mandate of the people - a non-nationalist; though many want us to believe otherwise.
----
NOTES:
1. President Tinubu pocketed 36% of the total in last election. V.P Atiku A. got 29% came second.
2. Pres. Tinubu received the lowest votes (expressed a percentage of the total votes) in the 4th republic - see attachment
3. Total votes were about 11,100,000.
4. Look at the progression from Obasanjo to Yar'adua; Yar'adua to Jonathan, and Buhari to Tinubu. Here we are interested in nos of votes bequeath.
5. Nos of votes bequeath in Nigeria politics refers to nos of votes a political benefactor or ancestor can successfully transfer to a descendant, let's refer to this as SAFEGUARD - political safeguard (theory of political safeguard).
6. My theory on factors that determine successful transfer of votes (political safeguard) from ancestor to descendant should be left for another day.
7. Returning to No. 4: Obasanjo transferred 24,000,000 (100% safeguard) to Yar'adua; Yar'adua transferred 22,000,000 (96% safeguard) to Jonathan.
8. Briefly - Why Jonathan really lost the election? One of the benefits of the safeguard is that it guarantees re-election. Looking at the 2015 election between Jonathan and Buhari is over 27,000,000 votes. That is the 22,000,000 Yar'adua bequeath to Jonathan, and then some.
9. However, that 22,000,000 was split between Buhari, and Jonathan. Buhari pocketed the lion share - 53.9% of total votes.
10. Using the analogy in 7, 8 and 9 - it becomes clear why Pres. Tinubu is a weak national politician.
11. Firstly, Buhari bequeath about 48%. He transferred 8,794,726. The rest was split between: Atiku. A 6,984,520; Peter Obi 6,101,533, and Rabiu K. 1,496,687.
12. Adding the nos in 11 - You will get the value bequeath to Jonathan from Yar'adua, and consequently Obasanjo.
13. But, how did Buhari manage to successfully convert 50% of Jonathan's political inheritance.
14. July 2013: INEC ratified the merger of factions from the following parties to form APC; PDP, APGA, CPC, ACN, and ANPP.
15. Don't take lightly, as many would have you believe, about the consequences of El-Rufai's move from APC to SDP.
Stupid analysis.. 1999 election was a two horse race, 2007 was a two horse race, 2011 was also a two horse race, 2015 was also a two horse race but 2023 was a four horse race. Abeg gettout.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Ttalk: 11:59am On Mar 25, 2025
Proudlyngwa:
Is there a time the economy has not been collapsing
I wonder o
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Emzedz: 12:02pm On Mar 25, 2025
We warned u that this old man has no senses.. but una no hear.. mk una enjoy his useless policies..
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by BreconHills(m): 12:34pm On Mar 25, 2025
PassingShot:
Can you defend any of the points above?

We should not be blinded by our love for politicians.
What you've posted is your opinion.

How can you ask someone else to defend your opinion?
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by ogashman(m): 12:59pm On Mar 25, 2025
I remember the op that year...na so e dey defend rubbish... Always standing logic on it's head....

Be like Tinubu don happen to am...now sense don come
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by EbereGod: 1:04pm On Mar 25, 2025
ValarDoharis:
Remember passingshot? He did more than you by far since 2015.

E go touch everybody
I'm just laughing out loud here cheesy grin
Things dey occur o
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by RaySimran: 2:09pm On Mar 25, 2025
helinues:
How do you expect any government t succeed without the Executive, Lawmakers and Judiciary working together to achieve same goal? You didn't think that through
Bribery equate working together??

Bro; sorry, but you're so dum*

Organs of government are not there to enable brazen corruption but to checkmate each other.
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by Treadway: 2:21pm On Mar 25, 2025
Nlfpmod
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by chumaZ(m): 2:36pm On Mar 25, 2025
helinues:
This is a false assertion



Obasa wouldn't have been removed if president Tinubu had meddled into the issue from beginning. Another false



Perhaps, the president should have allowed the Rivers lawmakers to impeach Fubara so that the state can turn into a mini war state. Another bunkum



How do you expect any government t succeed without the Executive, Lawmakers and Judiciary working together to achieve same goal? You didn't think that through



Which Nigeria constitution has president Tinubu broken or Seyi himself for helping his dad on how to governn Nigeria well?.

Where are the remaining list that you could go on with because I just rubbished all the points you listed above
dumb sad angry
Re: Tinubu Is Definitely NOT Whom We Thought He Was by 23jerryking(m): 3:33pm On Mar 25, 2025
tundegan:
He is not a tyrant, you people are just playing mind games with the word tyranny.

The president is doing his best and he will get there.
You'll have to be really really stupid to think that the same man who keeps sinking the country is doing his best to build it. Nonsense
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