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Nowadays, people are using Gods name to do business in the church. This is very bad

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi


little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

You think the god that asked his prophet to Bleep his son's wife is a real god??

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi


little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

Baalbi alah

A 3-month School vs. A 3-hour ministration!


Why are some people always ready to bring others down? What happens to Intellectual engagement?

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi


little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

See how easy you jumped into a Christian post to freely comment as a Muslim but a Christian cannot comment freely as Christian in Muslim post until he accepts Muhammad...Can you now see the difference? One is tolerant but the other is fanatical.

SafariHunter:
It's a school, they have over head cost that runs into millions.

Nevertheless, everyone should get renumeration for any service provided unless specified. Be you an artist, instrumentalist et al. It's only fair.

All this back and forth goes to show how money is important in "Nigerian Christendom"

It's time we agree that the key mandate of the church is salvation and community. All these squabbling undermines "Christainity".

JESUS CHRIST is Lord . #Peace #Lent #Easter #LetLoveLead

This is how you people delude yourselves into believing your own deluded whispers.

The true work of God requires your sacrifice, simple.
You teach it freely without remuneration because what you seek is ‘only’ payments for the hereafter.
Any other concept is of the worldly quest.

I can proudly say today that there is no man of God in the world today

hopexter:
What about the alfas that turned native doctors all in the name of Islam?

Then they are no longer Muslims, plain and simple.

Islam has clear criteria: submission to the will of God. If a Muslim becomes a native doctor, they have likely engaged with forces that take them away from true monotheism. In doing so, they may unknowingly remove themselves from the fold of Islam.

TechBaron:
Pulpit bandits

Very soon they'll upgrade their craft to having quarterly/annual targets, recruit more marketers (Pastors) to open new branches (churches).

The they'll introduce KPIs, appraisal bonuses and profit sharing...

Who told you they didn't have all these in place before??

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi


little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

Who asked you.
Mind your business.

I rest my case!

NOETHNICITY:
This is how you people delude yourselves into believing your own deluded whisper.

The true work of God requires your sacrifice, simple.
You teach if freely without remuneration.
Any other concept is of the worldly quest.

I can proudly say today that there is no man of God in the world today

Ok sir. Carry go

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi

little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

Sorry to disappoint you,Mr Man,
I'm proudly a Christian from a Muslim background,so nothing to be proud of in any Muslim thing,as many Muslims are the worst enemies of what is happening in Nigeria!- from Terrorists in the North,to Criminalities Across the Nigerian Borders, Herdsmen destroying and shedding of blood,etc
Are you saying that the Pastor should run the trainings,as a Father Christmas,then he begins to Incurred debts? Is that what you want for him- sorry,he wouldn't be that Stupid!
If you chose to be a Muslim - na your Choice,so leave the Christian issues for them.
-Go back and listen to his analysis of the kind of the honorarium- he was talking about,not just one!
But since some of you have jaundice- seeing everything as Yellow 🟡,I wouldn't blame you.
Dakolo - should go and Rest,if he can't face his abandoned Musical Career,so using the Pastor analysis,is deception in all ramifications.
Jesus Is Lord.

It's either Timi forgot to mention that the school is in partnership with Oral Roberts University, and the fee is for facilitators payment and purchase of materials or he is moving in ignorance. Will the facilitators train for free and will the materials from Oral Roberts University be given for free? What about lighting, will AEDC give power or they will have to buy diesel, abi dem dey sell diesel for free?
Nowadays, saying the truth attracts ridicule and abuse from those who are culprits and they find means for a comeback. Timi is clearly misguided and he should seek knowledge. This is not same as the so called music ministers do; after receiving invite, and provisions for feeding, accommodation and transportation have been made, then you bill the Church for a 30min ministration or entertainment running into millions, there's no justifying that.

GeneralPula:
Our great fore-fathers were really lucky. They never heard of any foreign religion during their existence. They never heard of imaginary heaven or hell or paying tithes..

What we have today is a calamity..

Go pracrise their own. And wear fish skin too. Or whichever animal you like.

NOETHNICITY:
Then they are no longer Muslims, plain and simple.

Islam has clear criteria: submission to the will of God. If a Muslim becomes a native doctor, they have likely engaged with forces that take them away from true monotheism. In doing so, they may unknowingly remove themselves from the fold of Islam.

I knew you were gonna say that.
If an Islamist bombs a place or centre where there are people, he’s not a real Muslim.

Ole ni everybody

I think ever since Femi received some monetory gift from christ embassy and the rest, he started castigating honourarium for gospel ministers.

hopexter:
I knew you were gonna say that.
If an Islamist bombs a place or centre where there are people, he’s not a real Muslim.

He may still be Muslim depending on his state of mind or intentions, but the indisputable fact, irrespective of wether he is a Muslim or not, is that he has committed a huge sin (one he may never be able to extricate himself from) according to the Quran.

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi


little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

You wey carry terrorism for head nor suppose dey talk

Nobody dey body criticize una again cuz everybody don give up

advanceDNA:
U missed the point by 500 light years

School of ministry is completely different to ministering as a Pastor to a congregation or ministering in songs to God in a church service or crusade.

school of ministry is a formal school setting with students, teachers and head teacher. you graduate from class to class until you finally graduate and are issued certificate (Certificate, Diploma, higher Diploma, Advance Diploma, Bsc, ETC)
This is in complete contrast to ministering in church service or crusade where the congregation are not students, don't graduate from class to higher class. in fact there is no graduation or examination or issuance of certificate of attendance. it purely worshipping God and doing service to God in a formal church setting.

Which f00ls still go to church?

Have these ediots not seen and heard enough??

SafariHunter:
It's a school, they have over head cost that runs into millions.

Nevertheless, everyone should get renumeration for any service provided unless specified. Be you an artist, instrumentalist et al. It's only fair.

All this back and forth goes to show how money is important in "Nigerian Christendom"

It's time we agree that the key mandate of the church is salvation and community. All these squabbling undermines "Christainity".

JESUS CHRIST is Lord . #Peace #Lent #Easter #LetLoveLead

Dem force anybody pay....?!

henrydanger:
I have seen this picture somewhere.

He is a scammer

Fido24:
School of ministry is completely different to ministering as a Pastor to a congregation or ministering in songs to God in a church service or crusade.

I never said they are not different....but what u are desperately ignoring is that they also have similarities

Fido24:
school of ministry is a formal school setting with students, teachers and head teacher. you graduate from class to class until you finally graduate and are issued certificate (Certificate, Diploma, higher Diploma, Advance Diploma, Bsc, ETC)

lol...all u doing here is being desperate to drive home a one-sided point...

The pastor is using his skill to teach in a school setting he has developed to make money....there is no crime in that...

The musicians also makes money from his skill ...it's their source of living...which need maintenance just like the school...no crime here too

Fido24:
This is in complete contrast to ministering in church service or crusade where the congregation are not students, don't graduate from class to higher class. in fact there is no graduation or examination or issuance of certificate of attendance. it purely worshipping God and doing service to God in a formal church setting.

Lol...all this ur explanation doesn't change the fact that u still missed the point....

...U desperately want to create a contrast yet u ignore the similarity.....

The point is both of them are justified to charge money....it's their source of living which they have developed in value pple want..

Now ...saying a person shouldn't charge for his skill is wrong on so many levels......it reeks entitlement, bias, and exploitation..i have seen pple say this same thing to electricians and plumbers in church who fix damaged stuff in church......it's wrong
....if a musician or an artisan want to do it for free as service to God ..that's fine..it should be the musician decision.......but u should offer them pay even if they don't ask.....

Anybody who charges for the gospel is selling it. Yes there are administrative costs to set up a bible school and also a music band the question now is do we charge back for these valid costs?

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi


little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

hypocrite Muslim does the worst

I read 50% of the comments and understood why the Nairaland community is not growing.

I wonder why a so-called gospel musician will be consistently launching attacks on a Pastor. Children of God should be display some
kingdom manners. Also, charging for a School of Ministry is quite different, they would be using a conducive venue for the programme(we know what the cost of diesel is), starter packs would be provided and even some of the facilitators are likely to be paid because they are professionals.

Winners church already have it since.

TechBaron:
Pulpit bandits

Very soon they'll upgrade their craft to having quarterly/annual targets, recruit more marketers (Pastors) to open new branches (churches).

The they'll introduce KPIs, appraisal bonuses and profit sharing...

Defending rubbish, they're all the same

Sunesis2012:
I wonder why a so-called gospel musician will be consistently launching attacks on a Pastor. Children of God should be display some
kingdom manners. Also, charging for a School of Ministry is quite different, they would be using a conducive venue for the programme(we know what the cost of diesel is), starter packs would be provided and even some of the facilitators are likely to be paid because they are professionals.

Danwakae:
I'm proudly a Muslim ...alhamdulahi


little by little false god preachers and worshipers will be exposed

Will you allow me to have sex with your nine years old daughter? Muhammad killed people's parents and raped their daughter, killed husbands and raped their wives, cuz such sex cannot be consenxual. Muhammad is a Satan himself...may that dude rot in hell!