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As against what many people see as religion war, the war is more of world politics crisis

https://www.pcrf.net/information-you-should-know/what-was-palestine-before-1948.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGH94HoSJ2s?si=SgBf06pPLklYfAyn

Isreal is not a country name but 12 sons of Jacob, (we all know how they move to Egypt later to today’s Palestinian land), after they conquer the land Isreal were living together with those they met in the land without segregation. Generation upon generation has come and go, prophet upon prophet (from David to Solomon, John baptize, Jesus) has come and go. Many people migrate for one reason to other, so it is for people living in Jerusalem/Palestine then. Butt notable causes of migration of some set of people due to Roman ruling of the land and latter Ottoman ruling. Some set of people not all move out of the land to live across the Europe (Germany, France, America). After over thousand years, when Hittler of Germany started treating them bad (which later leads to First World War) a group Zionist was formed for Europeans Jews seeking support of England and World power bloc to allow them settled back in Palestine. But due to numbers of years, these Zionist and Palestinian people do not have anything in common (range in language, culture, mode of worship). British settle them in Palestine, first as IDP for WW1, later more Zionist migrated to Palestine to form their country with help of British and world power bloc. Since then they keep killing and take the land from their Palestinian host.

You can read more on Wikipedia, instead of listening to rubbish some Ignorant are saying. I also learnt more of it from research

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR-embMmMQc?si=YLhMW-_zSJ7wXaI5

OP Jacob had 12 Sons not 11.

Where was the 12 sons of Jacob living before migrating to Egypt?
When they returned from Egypt, was there any place called Palestine?
Can you give us the origin of Palestine citing Torah or Quran?

Newton2024:
Where was the 12 sons of Jacob living before migrating to Egypt?
When they returned from Egypt, was there any place called Palestine?
Can you give us the origin of Palestine citing Torah or Quran?

12 sons of Jacob were living in khanian, Sham present day Syria.

When the return from Egypt, Palestine was in existence. Remember Loot relocate to Palestine after God perished his people for Homosexuality

Lanre1st:
12 sons of Jacob were living in khanian, Sham present day Syria.

When the return from Egypt, Palestine was in existence. Remember Loot relocate to Palestine after God perished his people for Homosexuality

Do site historical book to back up your claim.

Lanre1st:
12 sons of Jacob were living in khanian, Sham present day Syria.

When the return from Egypt, Palestine was in existence. Remember Loot relocate to Palestine after God perished his people for Homosexuality

That name Palestine was coined by a Roman emperor to spite the jews after he burnt down the temple, Jerusalem and took the jews to Europe as slaves and others scattered, despite that, some still remain in Israel/Judeah...!!

There was nothing like Palestine before then...There are nobody or group of people referred to as Palestinians, infact those referred to as Palestinians in the 1940s are the jews themselves and never rhe Arab immigrants who came in there when sallahudeen took Jerusalem from the crusaders....All those Arabs you see there all comes from some place else and they themselves know this fact....!

The real cause of the war is the refusal of the Palestinians to accept the two-state solution.

The world is watching.

😂😂😂😂😂 Al Jazeera will be proud

Lanre1st:
12 sons of Jacob were living in khanian, Sham present day Syria.

When the return from Egypt, Palestine was in existence. Remember Loot relocate to Palestine after God perished his people for Homosexuality

You eat h one YouTube video and you think you understand the universe. You stayed a lot of untruths and you did not link to any respectable site.
Good you mentioned Wikipedia but you did not quote or link to it. Now let me link you to Wikipedia so you can get a real education not a YouTube education.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

VnAhunnaPl:
The real cause of the war is the refusal of the Palestinians to accept the two-state solution.

Allow that ignorant OP to feeding us lies from Aljazera....Op should go and check hamas's flag see why israel and those so called terrorist will always be at war.

Floky215:
That name Palestine was coined by a Roman emperor to spite the jews after he burnt down the temple, Jerusalem and took the jews to Europe as slaves and others scattered, despite that, some still remain in Israel/Judeah...!!

There was nothing like Palestine before then...There are nobody or group of people referred to as Palestinians, infact those referred to as Palestinians in the 1940s are the jews themselves and never rhe Arab immigrants who came in there when sallahudeen took Jerusalem from the crusaders....All those Arabs you see there all comes from some place else and they themselves know this fact....!

The name Palestine was not coined by Roman empire, the name is historical. Though pronunciation may a little differ like some wrote it as "Palaistine" (referring to the territory previously held by Philistia)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)

You can share your reference to your claim

tctrills:
You eat h one YouTube video and you think you understand the universe. You stayed a lot of untruths and you did not link to any respectable site.
Good you mentioned Wikipedia but you did not quote or link to it. Now let me link you to Wikipedia so you can get a real education not a YouTube education.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_under_Muslim_rule

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_and_Judaism_in_the_Land_of_Israel

Wikipedia reference
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)

As I said, this is not a religion war but forcefully displaced of people of the land who remained after many ruling/colonization. Today Isreal are German returnee (after almost thousand years) claimed to be Israelite. Israeli should allow DNA test if its not going to be German trait

If story of forefather is enough to claim land, Yoruba tribe will go to Saudi to displaced them claiming Oduduwa migrated from there

Lanre1st:
Wikipedia reference
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)

As I said, this is not a religion war but forcefully displaced of people of the land who remained after many ruling/colonization. Today Isreal are German returnee (after almost thousand years) claimed to be Israelite. Israeli should allow DNA test if its not going to be German trait

If story of forefather is enough to claim land, Yoruba tribe will go to Saudi to displaced them claiming Oduduwa migrated from there

Clearly you don't know history. It was your Arab friends that forcefully displaced people from their lands in the sixth century all the way up to Egypt and north Africa. These people are only taking their lands back from the evil Arab invaders.
Now let me use your logic on you. If you believe it's wrong for Jews to reclaim their land as you gave the Saudi /Yoruba example, why do you think it is ok for Arabs to reclaim the land of Israel? Doesn't your Saudi/Yoruba example apply here? Your rules only applies when Israel is reclaiming it's land.

tctrills:
Clearly you don't know history. It was your Arab friends that forcefully displaced people from their lands in the sixth century all the way up to Egypt and north Africa. These people are only taking their lands back from the evil Arab invaders.
Now let me use your logic on you. If you believe it's wrong for Jews to reclaim their land as you gave the Saudi /Yoruba example, why do you think it is ok for Arabs to reclaim the land of Israel? Doesn't your Saudi/Yoruba example apply here? Your rules only applies when Israel is reclaiming it's land.

Are these European returnee are only isrealites? If they are not even Germans and Europeans.

There is nothing like reclaiming land after almost 1500years. It just another European occupation in Morden days.

You claim Arab displaced entire Israel, and North Africa to occupied it, this is never possible in anytime in history. The only things that always happen is regime change or taking over of the rulership of a place. The people of the land will remain but Subjected to ruling Empire.

Arab never reclaim the land of Israel. Just because people living in Palestine today are Muslims, embrace Arab culture does not change them to Arab. They only do so because Ottoman empire reign in the land for over 400years which is more than 4 generations and it has changed their way of life's. For example, in Nigeria, the colonization only last for about 40yrs, but it change our way of life to the colonial master way. You and I cannot write or read very well in our native language but English, our dressing and the likes.

The point I'm making is these people are Palestinian not Arab as you claim.

Egypt, Iran, Algeria, Morocco and others are not Arab, they only embrace the Arab culture and religion. Same way American, Canada, Nigeria etc are not British or Europe but adopted English language, dressing and some of their way of life

Also note, Jews are not only people occupied the land in history, Jews met some people there.

Lanre1st:
Are these European returnee are only isrealites? If they are not even Germans and Europeans.

Arab never reclaim the land of Israel. Because people living in Palestine today are Muslims, embrace Arab culture does not change them to Arab. They only do so because Ottoman empire reign in the land for over 400years which is more than 4 generations and it has changed their way of life's. For example, in Nigeria, the colonization only last for about 40yrs, but it change our way of life to the colonial master way. You and I cannot write or read very well in our native language but English, our dressing and the likes.

The point I'm making is these people are Palestinian not Arab as you claim.

Egypt, Iran, Algeria, Morocco and others are not Arab, they only embrace the Arab culture and religion. Same way American, Canada, Nigeria etc are not British or Europe but adopted English language, dressing and some of their way of life

Also note, Jews are not only people occupied the land in history, Jews met some people there.

It's funny you call the Jews Germans but then according to you, the Palestinians are not Arabs. Don't you see that you already lack credibility?
Again, the Palestinians claim that they are Arabs so you are claiming that you know them more than they know themselves. Also claiming you know the Jews more than they know themselves.
Please tell us why anyone should take you serious?
Below is a short history lesson
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Levant
Thank me later.

tctrills:
It's funny you call the Jews Germans but then according to you, the Palestinians are not Arabs. Don't you see that you already lack credibility?
Again, the Palestinians claim that they are Arabs so you are claiming that you know them more than they know themselves. Also claiming you know the Jews more than they know themselves.
Please tell us why anyone should take you serious?
Below is a short history lesson
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Levant
Thank me later.

Did you read the link you sent at all, the write up only back my claim of how Arab captured Syria

Lanre1st:
Did you read the link you sent at all, the write up only back my claim of how Arab captured Syria

I am not sure you read it. If you did you would understand that most of the middle east and north Africa are captured land. The Jews can only take back what is theirs.
The Wikipedia article was about the Arab capture of the Levant.
The question you should ask is what is the Levant.
It includes present-day Syria, as well as Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Israel, and the southern part of Cilicia (modern-day Turkey.

Now read the article with this fresh understand and thank me later.

tctrills:
I am not sure you read it. If you did you would understand that most of the middle east and north Africa are captured land. The Jews can only take back what is theirs.
The Wikipedia article was about the Arab capture of the Levant.
The question you should ask is what is the Levant.
It includes present-day Syria, as well as Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Israel, and the southern part of Cilicia (modern-day Turkey.

Now read the article with this fresh understand and thank me later.

Please read what you wrote Again, and this time slowly.
You claim Palestine is Arab, and you just write above Arab capture of the Levant.
The question you should ask is what is the Levant.
It includes present-day Syria, as well as Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Israel, and the southern part of Cilicia (modern-day Turkey.

How come Arab capture Palestine again.

See my point is people living there are still the linage of historical people occupied the land.

Yes is was captured by Arab, but as I said above
The only things that always happen is regime change or taking over of the rulership of a place. The people of the land will remain but Subjected to ruling Empire.

Example: in Syria there is regime force by the support of US to dismissed Asad, also in Egypt to removed Morsi, is that mean people of Syria or Egypt because Americans. US can only dictate to their leaders.

Similar things with Palestine, Arab capture it leadership and govern them.
Remember, Roman also ruled them but it doesn't change them to Roman

Lanre1st:
Please read what you wrote Again, and this time slowly.
You claim Palestine is Arab, and you just write above Arab capture of the Levant.
The question you should ask is what is the Levant.
It includes present-day Syria, as well as Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Israel, and the southern part of Cilicia (modern-day Turkey.

How come Arab capture Palestine again.

Oh, now I see your confusion. Let me explain. The Romans renamed the land Palestine, it was formally known as Judah and Samaria before Roman renaming.
So we are not talking about capturing the people you presently know as Palestinians. We are talking about the occupation of the land that wasn't theirs.
Do you get it now.
Let me give you a clear example of Arab conquest of north Africa.
The king of Morocco is a descent from the Prophet Muhammad, linking them to Arab heritage.
The dynasty has ruled Morocco since the 17th century.
This opens your eyes to Arab supremacy across the middle east and north Africa.

Lanre1st:
The name Palestine was not coined by Roman empire, the name is historical. Though pronunciation may a little differ like some wrote it as "Palaistine" (referring to the territory previously held by Philistia)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_(region)

You can share your on reference to you claim

It obvious you forget things easily, on name Palestine you said Roman change, I've cleared you in previous post I'm quoting. Check Bible, check quran. Loot relocated to Palestine after sodomy incident.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Palestinians

Lanre1st:
Please read what you wrote Again, and this time slowly.
You claim Palestine is Arab, and you just write above Arab capture of the Levant.
The question you should ask is what is the Levant.
It includes present-day Syria, as well as Lebanon, Jordan, Palestine, Israel, and the southern part of Cilicia (modern-day Turkey.

How come Arab capture Palestine again.

See my point is people living there are still the linage of historical people occupied the land.

Yes is was captured by Arab, but as I said above
The only things that always happen is regime change or taking over of the rulership of a place. The people of the land will remain but Subjected to ruling Empire.

Example: in Syria there is regime force by the support of US to dismissed Asad, also in Egypt to removed Morsi, is that mean people of Syria or Egypt because Americans. US can only dictate to their leaders.

Similar things with Palestine, Arab capture it leadership and govern them.
Remember, Roman also ruled them but it doesn't change them to Roman

I have responded to you in my earlier post, but I guess you do not understand how deep and brutal Arab supremacy has been in the Middle East and North Africa.
These Guys are animals who have used brutality and discrimination to rule for hundreds of years. Here are a few examples from North Africa.
First, the discrimination against Berbers by Arab-dominated regimes.
The Gaddafi regime conducted ethnic cleansing against Berber (Amazigh) communities: destroying Berber villages, banning their language, and forcing Arabic names and culture upon them. He infamously described Berbers as “the Children of Satan” and denied their distinct identity.
Laws such as Law No. 12 (1984) and Law No. 24 completely outlawed the use of the Amazigh language in public signage, education, personal names, and legal documents.

In Morocco, Arabic is the sole official language, marginalizing Amazigh languages and limiting their presence in public life—even though Berber identity is widespread. Berber culture has often been relegated to folklore status
In Algeria, while Amazigh people constitute around one-third of the population (some 13 million), the state has historically imposed Arabization: elevating Arabic in schools and administration, suppressing Tamazight, and portraying Berbers who speak their language as separatists or anti-state actors—sometimes resulting in arrests or imprisonment.

The Berber Revolt in the 8th century began as a resistance to Arab rule after Berber auxiliaries were treated as second-class Muslims—denied equal spoils, burdened with extra taxes, and assigned harsher duties under Umayyad governors

The broader strategy of Arabization has often undervalued Berber linguistic and cultural heritage, reinforcing perceptions of Arabs as supreme in identity and governance across centuries of North African history.

From 1955 to 2005, Sudan endured long civil wars rooted in racial and ethnic divisions. Black Sudanese communities in regions such as the Zaghawa, Masalit, and Nuba Mountains were systematically targeted through apartheid-like policies, mass killings, and displacements, estimated at 2.5–3.5 million deaths.

It is funny that I have never seen people like you who fight for Arabs (Palestinians) in the Middle East fight for your fellow black man in Africa.

Although slavery was officially abolished in Sudan by 1924 (and codified in 1981), darker-skinned people—especially from southern tribes—continued to face racial slurs, social exclusion, and forced labor well into modern times. Islamist elites preserved notions of Arab superiority long after independence.

The city of Khartoum was founded as a slave-trading hub; even today, many Black Sudanese are excluded from leadership roles in government and finance, reinforcing structural inequality.

Since April 2023, the Rapid Support Forces (RSF)—originating from supporter of APC militias—have carried out ethnic killings, mass rapes, looting, and forced displacement in Darfur targeting Black tribes such as the Masalit. UN experts have documented these acts as possible war crimes or genocide, often laced with racial slurs and intent (“Arab babies”) to erase Black identity.

So, if the arabs could get as far as North Africa, why do you think they didn't do the same in the land of Palestine? The Palestinians are Arab. They say they are Arab, and they definitely have Arab blood. They are the invaders, not the nation of Israel.

PALESTINE IS AN OFFSHOOT OF A PROMISE DESTINATION FOR JACOB (ISRAEL).
NOTHING CONCERNS HAMAS IN ISRAELI PALESTINE PROBLEMS.
IF PALESTINE WANTS A STATE OF THEIRS LET THE UN AUTHORIZE A PLEBISCITE FOR THE WEST BANKERS AND CERTIFY IT IF A 75% OF THE REFERENDUM IS OBTAINED. PASS THE REFERENDUM OF ISRAELI PARLIAMENT TO APPROVE AND MAKE IT LEGAL.
GAZA IS MERELY A GATE WAY LAND MARK PART OF THE PROMISE DESTINATION TO JACOB(I SRAEL).
GAZA IS NOT PALESTINE. HAMAS IS A WITCH CRAFTED INTO THE IMBROGLIO..