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Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by delkuf(m): 2:25pm On Mar 30, 2025
Thankgod89:
My problem is that you're lying without any fear of God, and you expect us to just accept it. Yes, our God is a miracle worker, but during COVID, when the entire world was on lockdown, where is your miracles news coming from.
I don't know why jump into conclusions. If look at the post I wrote after that post I said I never said I performed miracles during covid, now you just come and jump to conclusion. This is the second time. I never said I performed miracles during covid oooo.
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Thankgod89(op): 2:33pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
I don't know why jump into conclusions. If look at the post I wrote after that post I said I never said I performed miracles during covid, now you just come and jump to conclusion. This is the second time. I never said I performed miracles during covid oooo.
Let me clarify—I’m not saying you personally heal anyone from COVID. I’m just asking, where have you heard news of someone being miraculously healed from COVID?
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by delkuf(m): 2:38pm On Mar 30, 2025
Thankgod89:
Let me clarify—I’m not saying you personally heal anyone from COVID. I’m just asking, where have you heard news of someone being miraculously healed from COVID?
so because you didn't heard of anyone healed of covid 19, you are calling me a liar.

Well I cannot be arguing more on this with you.
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Thankgod89(op): 2:59pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
so because you didn't heard of anyone healed of covid 19, you are calling me a liar.

Well I cannot be arguing more on this with you.
Always support your points with evidence. Even if we were not present, your conviction will hold firm, demonstrating God's true work rather than merely defending Him. Without evidence, your words lack confidence, making it difficult for others to believe you. As Peter stated:

2 Peter 1:16-18
"For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty.
He received honor and glory from God the Father when the voice came to Him from the Majestic Glory, saying, ‘This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.’
We ourselves heard this voice from heaven when we were with Him on the holy mountain."
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:34pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
i cannot support any thing jw.
I can understand.

So stop giving yourself unnecessary headache if you don't want something stay far away from it but you can't shut down the truth no matter how angry or bitter you may be!smiley
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:37pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
I don't know why jump into conclusions.
Exactly what you did when i was talking to him not you! smiley
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by delkuf(m): 3:41pm On Mar 30, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I can understand.

So stop giving yourself unnecessary headache if you don't want something stay far away from it but you can't shut down the truth no matter how angry or bitter you may be!smiley
your doctrine are just demonic
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:48pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
your doctrine are just demonic
Yet you keep on requesting for it unable to use God's word to refute it.

Just stop stalking me because i wasn't talking to you before you jumped into the thread!
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by delkuf(m): 3:50pm On Mar 30, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Yet you keep on requesting for it unable to use God's word to refute it.

Just stop stalking me because i wasn't talking to you before you jumped into the thread!
am not stalking you. Wetin concern me and you. I can't just stand when you say all this rubbish jw believe in.

It is bad
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by MiddleDimension: 3:50pm On Mar 30, 2025
Thankgod89:
Is that all it takes to be in right standing with God?
Jesus said: UNLESS you are born of water..., you cannot enter into the kingdom of god
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:54pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
am not stalking you. Wetin concern me and you. I can't just stand when you say all this rubbish jw believe in. It is bad
You are the devil here because i asked the OP:

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not a teacher o i only pass on what i received from JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES? 1Corinthans 4:7
So are you ready to LEARN from Jehovah's Witnesses?smiley
And this is his response:

Thankgod89:
Jehovah's Witnesses read the Bible, and I see no reason not to learn from them. All we advocate for is that every doctrine must be Christ-centered.
So who are you to decide what happens here when you are neither the OP nor moderator? smiley
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by delkuf(m): 3:59pm On Mar 30, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You are the devil here because i asked the OP:



And this is his response:



So who are you to decide what happens here when you are neither the OP or moderator? smiley
can you comprehend simple English. Am I deciding anything. I only said I can't stand it when you bring up this demonic of your jw, so I speak up. Does that mean I decide what to say or not
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:08pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
can you comprehend simple English. Am I deciding anything. I only said I can't stand it when you bring up this demonic of your jw, so I speak up. Does that mean I decide what to say or not
Go and read how Judaists were stalking true Christians in the first century {Act 13:50; 14:2,19; 17:13} remember i wasn't here to teach rather the OP appealed to what i have.

So if you can't stand a teaching and you can't use the scriptures to refute it that makes you a busybody Pharisee who doesn't know what he believes yet fighting to stop those who wants to learn from learning. Matthew 23:13

That's why the OP is annoyed with you! smiley
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Thankgod89(op): 5:00pm On Mar 30, 2025
MiddleDimension:
Jesus said: UNLESS you are born of water..., you cannot enter into the kingdom of god
Is that what you read in your Bible? What about spiritual rebirth?

Who told you that Christ was referring to baptism in that context?
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Kobojunkie: 5:29pm On Mar 30, 2025
Thankgod89:
Is that what you read in your Bible?
➜ What about spiritual rebirth?
➜ Who told you that Christ was referring to baptism in that context?
So, you believe Jesus Christ of Israel lied there where He said that only those who are both of water and of spirit can enter into the Kingdom of God? undecided

2. How can this spiritual birth(not sure why you deem it a rebirth) be obtained? And what value does it hold if it is to be accompanied by birth by water for it to be considered a valid passport into this Kingdom of God spoken of by Jesus Christ of Israel? undecided

3. Baptism? Are you averse to this baptism or something? undecided
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Kobojunkie: 5:32pm On Mar 30, 2025
Thankgod89:
➜Is that all it takes to be in right standing with God?
Right standing with which God? Are you creating a manual of your own deity or an existing one? undecided
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Thankgod89(op): 6:17pm On Mar 30, 2025
Kobojunkie:
So, you believe Jesus Christ of Israel lied there where He said that only those who are both of water and of spirit can enter into the Kingdom of God? undecided

2. How can this spiritual birth(not sure why you deem it a rebirth) be obtained? And what value does it hold if it is to be accompanied by birth by water for it to be considered a valid passport into this Kingdom of God spoken of by Jesus Christ of Israel? undecided

3. Baptism? Are you averse to this baptism or something? undecided
You really need to stay silent. I've noticed that you always try to make yourself relevant by jumping into every conversation, even when you have no knowledge of the topic. Instead of contributing meaningfully, you just criticize and speak nonsense. I only respond to set you aside in our discussions. When it comes to godly matters, your input is completely irrelevant.
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Kobojunkie: 6:18pm On Mar 30, 2025
Thankgod89:
➜You really need to stay silent. I've noticed that you always try to make yourself relevant by jumping into every conversation, even when you have no knowledge of the topic. Instead of contributing meaningfully, you just criticize and speak nonsense. I only respond to set you aside in our discussions. When it comes to godly matters, your input is completely irrelevant.
Again... So, you believe Jesus Christ of Israel lied there where He said that only those who are both of water and of spirit can enter into the Kingdom of God of Israel? undecided

2. How can this spiritual birth(not sure why you deem it a rebirth) be obtained? And what value does it hold if it is to be accompanied by birth by water for it to be considered a valid passport into this Kingdom of God of Israel spoken of by Jesus Christ of Israel? undecided

3. Baptism? Are you averse to this baptism or something? undecided
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:05pm On Mar 30, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I'm not talking to you rather my post is meant for the OP who said to me:



You are an atheist never ready to learn and moreover you have told me:



So is your brain now malfunctioning that you forgot that you said you will stop talking to me? smiley
You have broken your promise towards me too. So shut up
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:06pm On Mar 30, 2025
delkuf:
so I should be campaigning over the place abi. Didn't hear of miracles during covid 19. People that was heal from covid 19
Nobody was healed. They are all scripted
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 10:07pm On Mar 30, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂😂
In summary, you make your god very incapable🤨.

Apart from first postulating that he was foolish now you have affirmed his inability to do anything 🙃!!!

My God is capable of healing even👀 in this generation!!!

Not one whose power is restricted to the biblical era after all God is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow!!!

Now, I see how you don't find it as hypocrisy when your Michael 'bullied' demons in heaven only to be bullied on Earth and then told all to turn the 'other cheek'.

Once again Max strikes 'gold'.
Do you have evidence of one person that has been healed
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Gabrielshow24: 10:26pm On Mar 30, 2025
jaephoenix:
Do you have evidence of one person that has been healed
🤨 What's your end goal in this discourse?

Well, There are plethora of recorded "healings" from the time of Jesus even till now.

Some notable instances can be found in the televised healings of TB Joshua.

'Others'👀 can be subject to great scrutiny.
There are also documented "display of healings" from God's generals.

You can query to confirm🤨
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by Janosky: 10:33pm On Mar 30, 2025
Thankgod89:
If people say "God gives babies," then it raises the question of why some struggle with infertility while others, even those who may not seem prepared for parenthood, conceive easily. Since God is not partial, how do we explain this?
* Human/genetic factors.
* Environmental/dietary factors.
* Spiritual factors.
* Etc
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by jaephoenix(m): 11:00pm On Mar 30, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
🤨 What's your end goal in this discourse?

Well, There are plethora of recorded "healings" from the time of Jesus even till now.

Some notable instances can be found in the televised healings of TB Joshua.

'Others'👀 can be subject to great scrutiny.
There are also documented "display of healings" from God's generals.

You can query to confirm🤨
About Jesus healings, they never happened. There's no evidence the stories in the Bible are real
TB Joshua is a known scammer. Even watching Emmanuel TV is a funny pastime for me watching the whole scripting shit happening. As in video would follow how a cripple walks into the church til he is healed
I have read Gods Generals. Many of the 'faith healers' there like Kathleen Kuhlmann etc are known scammers
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:08am On Mar 31, 2025
jaephoenix:
You have broken your promise towards me too. So shut up
See frustration! cheesy
I made a promise to you and broke it yet you never said anything about that not until i told you what you said.
Well i'm not going back on my words since you have said that to me unless you kiss my feet before i discuss with you again.
Until then this remains valid:
jaephoenix:
Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.
smiley
Re: "If God Gives Babies, Why Do Some Struggle While Others Conceive Easily?" by justlove91(m):
Thankgod89:
If people say "God gives babies," then it raises the question of why some struggle with infertility while others, even those who may not seem prepared for parenthood, conceive easily. Since God is not partial, how do we explain this?
God does not give babies, a baby emerges only when the conditions necessary are met just as a fire will emerge if the necessary conditions are met.

Sometimes these conditions are met by a naive 16 year old girl that doesn't know anything about parenthood and she gets pregnant.

Sometimes the conditions are not met by a couple having the resources and intelligence to care for a baby and no baby emerge.

Sometimes the conditions are met by a madwoman roaming the street and she gets pregnant, have the baby that later dead because she can't take care of the baby (Does it make sense that an intelligent God will give a baby to a madwoman??)

Some doctors specialize in studying the conditions necessary for babies to emerge. Couple having problem conceiving can get pregnant if these doctors are able to set the necessary conditions in place.

Long story short God doesn't give babies, babies emerge only when the necessary conditions are met.
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