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DaddyCoool:
Please Join Me In Wishing Happy Atheist Day To All Our Favorite Nairaland Atheists!

Folks if you know any atheists, please indicate so I can tag them below

Happy Atheist day haha

INTPCorper:
4. UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE

LordReed you might want to see this particular one too. I think this is a direct rebuttal to DaddyCoool's original position.

Thanks for this. I was more focused on DaddyCoool's insistence that quantum particles only come into existence upon observation, a total misunderstanding of the observer effect. But you are correct, all this should enlighten any objective reader of how misinformed DaddyCoool is on the subject or even more egregiously, deliberately twisting QM principles to give strength to the obviously kooky position.

tctrills:
So according to JW, one can't go through excruciating pains and yet say it's ok when you have a choice to release yourself.

Ask anyone claiming believers here that question and let them answer you!

MaxInDHouse:
Ask anyone claiming believers here that question and let them answer you!

Oh you are running away. This man. Please answer Oga

tctrills:
Oh you are running away. This man. Please answer Oga

You're just crying when no one is beating you!

No human sticks to excruciating pains when there is option to release himself or herself if not first suspend the use of his or her brain.
So let anyone else dispute this if they are not hypocrites.

MaxInDHouse:
You're just crying when no one is beating you!

No human sticks to excruciating pains when there is option to release himself or herself if not first suspend the use of his or her brain.
So let anyone else dispute this if they are not hypocrites.

This is JW brain science. I used to wonder why you made baseless statements, but you explained it yesterday. You have suspended the use of your brain cells.

It is funny that you are calling on people to dispute your JW pseudoscience of the brain.Don't you see how foolish your request is?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ if simple English confuses you like this then you need an English teacher.

The Bible is God's word it's clearly stated that Jesus SUSPENDED the use of his brain whenever it comes to matters of pure worship and rely solely on whatever his father says! John 5:30

His Apostles SUSPENDED the use of their brains and solely rely on whatever Jesus says when it comes to matters of pure worship! Luke 9:23

The disciples SUSPENDED the use of their brains and solely rely on whatever the Apostles teaches them when it comes to matters regarding pure worship! Hebrews 13:17

It doesn't mean they won't use their brains again but it's when pure worship is the matter at hand.
So read carefully and digest before you think of responding there's no way you can refute whatever i say because it's established in the scriptures!

please Maxi what or when is the pure worship are we allowed to use our brain

DaddyCoool:
1. How can they know eating the fruit was bad if they didn't know bad from good

2. Why didn't they eat the tree of life all that time - and they were NOT forbidden from it. It said clearly they were banished so they won't eat it (NOT so they won't continue eating it)

3. Why was the Serpent created wise and tricky but not them, and then allowed access to them, knowing he can easily deceive them

4. Eve, who was the one deceived, was not yet created when God gave Adam the instruction

5. Omniscient God already knew they'd eat the fruit even before they were created

6. Life also became difficult for animals even though they didn't eat any fruit

7. The Serpent's punishment was crawling on the ground, but that's what Serpents do, that's just their nature, and they do it effortlessly, and they're not the only ones who crawl.

Add yours

**Added:

8. What was Adam supposed to do, his wife now knew he was a slowpoke who did not even know he was naked. If he didn't eat the fruit, if you were his wife, would you stay married to a slowpoke with no self-awareness?🤣

Hi, intelligent questions there.

I’ve got some questions on the state of the nation if you don’t mind my asking?

I’ll create a thread for us to discuss if you don’t mind?

Thanks.

tctrills:
Oga, for the sake of this discussion, use your brain, please. We know you have suspended your brain. So, Jesus Christ did not suspend his brain; rather, he suspended his will. Those are two very different things.
Your will is the things you want. Many times, we suspend our will for something better. A student wants to play video games all night, but he suspends his wants and picks up his book; does that make him brainless? As a husband, you often suspend your will for that of your wife; does that make you brainless?

so he should go get the brain from where they put it and put it bsck on.
I don't know you too is dragging this with him. This people have been seriously brainwashed

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
You are lying what Jesus is telling his dad is that he feels the situation shouldn't be but he is willing to go through it if that's what his father chooses.
You can't be going through excruciating pains yet say it's OK when you have a choice to release yourself so to do that you must suspend the use of your brain and focus on doing what you were told to do even when you are not comfortable with the whole thing.

how then does this mean Jesus suspended his brain.

MaxInDHouse:
You're just crying when no one is beating you!

No human sticks to excruciating pains when there is option to release himself or herself if not first suspend the use of his or her brain.
So let anyone else dispute this if they are not hypocrites.

tctrills:
This is JW brain science. I used to wonder why you made baseless statements, but you explained it yesterday. You have suspended the use of your brain cells.

It is funny that you are calling on people to dispute your JW pseudoscience of the brain.Don't you see how foolish your request is?

With what brain did he have the presence of mind to be quoting the Bible? - "My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?" Psalm 22:1

OkCornel:
Hi, intelligent questions there.

I’ve got some questions on the state of the nation if you don’t mind my asking?

I’ll create a thread for us to discuss if you don’t mind?

Thanks.

Not at all. I'd come comment on your thread

INTPCorper:
4. UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE

LordReed you might want to see this particular one too. I think this is a direct rebuttal to DaddyCoool's original position.

These are some of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on Nairaland! I'm sure even Lordreed is scratching his head!😆

You've agreed that QM is probabilistic. Is our everyday life probabilistic? Is it logical that you can't know both the speed and position of something? Is Einstein's "spooky action at a distance" logical? (Which allows two separated particles to instantaneously influence each other's states, faster than the speed of light!).
Not only that, you're treating a probabilistic science as exact! Nobody fully understands QM - except you!

tctrills:
This is JW brain science. I used to wonder why you made baseless statements, but you explained it yesterday. You have suspended the use of your brain cells.

It is funny that you are calling on people to dispute your JW pseudoscience of the brain.Don't you see how foolish your request is?

😂😂😂Max don too suffer.
Abeg take it easy with him for he is a "simple" man😁

Why are some people just foolish liars?

Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂Max don too suffer.
Abeg take it easy with him for he is a "simple" man😁

he said that he suspended the use of his brain to become a JW, and I completely believe him.

DaddyCoool:
With what brain did he have the presence of mind to be quoting the Bible? - "My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?" Psalm 22:1

MaxInDHouse confessed that since he joined JW, he has suspended the use of his brain, so don't be surprised at his comments

delkuf:
so he should go get the brain from where they put it and put it bsck on.
I don't know you too is dragging this with him. This people have been seriously brainwashed

You are right; the boy MaxInDHouse just agreed with you that he is brainwashed, only that he calls it suspending the use of his brain

tctrills:
This is JW brain science. I used to wonder why you made baseless statements, but you explained it yesterday. You have suspended the use of your brain cells.

Jesus, Apostles and Disciples did it so as to do the will of their superior when it comes to pure worship.
So you can't dispute it in anyway!

delkuf:
please Maxi what or when is the pure worship are we allowed to use our brain

There are many things we can do with our brains but when talking about pure worship all of us must follow the same root because Satan as the person behind false religions is an evil genius who knows how to appeal to our human thinking! Matthew 16:21-23

delkuf:
how then does this mean Jesus suspended his brain.

Jesus does so many things as human like eating different delicacies and drinking alcoholic beverages but when it comes to pure worship he SUSPENDS his human brain and rely solely on instructions from God!

DaddyCoool:
With what brain did he have the presence of mind to be quoting the Bible? - "My God, my God, why has thou forsaken me?" Psalm 22:1

Has God ever forsaken His only begotten Son?

tctrills:
he said that he suspended the use of his brain to become a JW, and I completely believe him.

You should because normally it's difficult for humans throughout the world to work together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers if we are to use human thinking!

MaxInDHouse:
You should because normally it's difficult for humans throughout the world to work together as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers if we are to use human thinking!

Being a JW is not difficult according to you all you need is to stop using your brain

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus, Apostles and Disciples did it so as to do the will of their superior when it comes to pure worship.
So you can't dispute it in anyway!

No, JW are the first group in history to do it.
You agree that you have suspended your brain, you believe Jesus suspended the use of his brain but somehow, your governing body still use their brains. I am sure you don't see how stupid your logic is.

Bunch of liars!

Jesus confessed that he doesn't use his brain when it comes to matters relating to pure worship:

I cannot do a single thing of my own initiative. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. John 5:30

He clearly stated why: someone made him a judge so it's the will of that person he is doing not his own.

Yet all these false religionists are arguing.

Well that's the reason why all of you are facing different directions when it comes to matters of pure worship and only Jehovah's Witnesses are unitedly doing the same thing just as Jesus prayed! John 17:20-23

tctrills:
Being a JW is not difficult according to you all you need is to stop using your brain

YES when it's time to talk of pure worship!
That's why Jesus our first born is called the FAITHFUL WITNESS! Revelations 1:5

tctrills:
No, JW are the first group in history to do it.
You agree that you have suspended your brain, you believe Jesus suspended the use of his brain but somehow, your governing body still use their brains. I am sure you don't see how stupid your logic is.

OK it's time to start lying shey?
It's allowed jàre!

DaddyCoool:
These are some of the most ridiculous posts I've ever read on Nairaland!

Not as ridiculous as your failed attempts to critique them. 🙄

It's obvious you have nothing more to argue on this topic. Both you and your travesty of a position have been found out long ago, but you would rather go down with the sinking ship that admit the painful truth.

DaddyCoool:
I'm sure even Lordreed is scratching his head!😆

Sadly for you, he's not:

LordReed:
Thanks for this. I was more focused on DaddyCoool's insistence that quantum particles only come into existence upon observation, a total misunderstanding of the observer effect. But you are correct, all this should enlighten any objective reader of how misinformed DaddyCoool is on the subject or even more egregiously, deliberately twisting QM principles to give strength to the obviously kooky position.

Learn to speak for yourself and stop making up lies about other people. It's embarrassing. 🤦🏽

DaddyCoool:
You've agreed that QM is probabilistic. Is our everyday life probabilistic?

Absolutely. 💯

When you drive to work in the morning without getting into an accident, you've navigated a probability successfully.

When the doctor listens to your complaints and arrives at a conclusion, he's navigating a probability too.

Weather reports? Probability.

Stock market? Probability.

Do I really need to go on?

Honestly, the fact that you can ask me this type of question and make me have to point out such an obvious banality to you is very saddening.

DaddyCoool:
Is it logical that you can't know both the speed and position of something?

If by logical you mean "necessarily follows from the premise", then the answer is obviously yes. It's just a mechanical consequence of wave mechanics.

DaddyCoool:
Is Einstein's "spooky action at a distance" logical? (Which allows two separated particles to instantaneously influence each other's states, faster than the speed of light!).

Einstein's problem with QM was from his preference or expectation based on what he knew about interacting objects, not with the logical consistency. There's no way he'd have known the logical framework behind that "spooky action". So this question, like the rest of the jargons you've been posting, is dead on arrival.

DaddyCoool:
Not only that, you're treating a probabilistic science as exact! Nobody fully understands QM - except you!

You know, I feel sorry for you that you won't be able to put yourself in I and LordReed's shoes, and fully appreciate the hilarious irony of accusing me of being a know-it-all of QM. Madam, I don't know if you forgot, but YOU are the person who brought up QM, brandishing it like the recipe to the ultimate truth of our universe, and making bold claims without any justification. YOU are the one who keeps demanding binary classifications of quantum events, saying they must either be "logical" or "illogical."

Well, fine then.

Since the universe is so "ILLOGICAL" to you that keep shouting it every 3 seconds, then maybe you can tell us according to which system of logic below the universe is illogical? 🤔

1. Aristotelian logic

2. Classical logic
2a. Propositional logic
2b. First-order logic

3. Extended logic
3a. Modal logic
3b. Higher order logic

4. Deviant logic
4a. Intuitionistic logic
4b. Multi-valued logic
4c. Paraconsistent logic

5. Informal logic

Start with these ones first.

So is it wrong according to all the systems of logic I just listed? Remember who has the burden of proof here, and think carefully before your next response.

🚶🏽🚶🏽🚶🏽

delkuf:
how then does this mean Jesus suspended his brain.

You're the funniest among them because you said alcoholic drinks is SIN to you when God never said so.

That's what suspending the use of your brain means.

If we are to go by your own brain any of these people who takes alcoholic drinks is evil but from God's standpoint it's not so!

MaxInDHouse:
OK it's time to start lying shey?
It's allowed jàre!

You have had all day to prove I was lying and all you came up with is a bible verse that says let thy will be done. Oga you already know I don't accept your guesswork logic. If the bible did not state that Jesus Christ suspended the use of his brain, then you are lying.

MaxInDHouse:
YES when it's time to talk of pure worship!
That's why Jesus our first born is called the FAITHFUL WITNESS! Revelations 1:5

You are right, he did not choose brainless false witness