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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:12pm On Apr 01, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
You always turn logic upside down. How can Poland accept Ukraine in EU when Ukrainian government are celebrating Ukrainian Nazi leaders who murdered innocent and unarmed Polish civilians?
Is the German government celebrating Hitler or Joseph Goebbels?
Poland one of the major backers of Ukraine,
Poland Is basically the the staging point for military aid going into Ukraine..

Poland leaders where very first forgien leaders to visit Zelensky in Kiev, the first country to offer tanks to Ukraine. First to send The Soviet era S300 to Ukraine..


When you guys are done with propaganda will go know!!


https://apnews.com/article/poland-ukraine-exhumations-8745207dc4fc4d55d339a1e6dcb414ff

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WriteerNg: 6:14pm On Apr 01, 2025
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 6:22pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Same people calling Stephan Bandera a Nazi will tell us Joseph Stalin is a hero. The same Stalin who along with Hitler shared Eastern Europe in their bedrooms..

After Benito Mussolini of Italy no other leader shared Hitler "nazi bed" than the blood sucking vampire Joseph Stalin..

He is capuable for the start of ww2, without he
Signing the nonaggression pact with Adolf Hitler.
Hitler won't have risk starting WW2 as he won't have been able to fight on two fronts..
Joseph Stalin was devil incarnate. May his soul rot in hell. The Soviet people didn't even like him. If not for the holocaust I would have said Stalin was more evil than Hitler. Both of them are in the same rank sef
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 6:29pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Wanna ask you a simple question, Joseph Stalin is he a hero to you or a mass murderer.
I like how you think

Ethically speaking he's both, just like every US president.
Stalin was also an ultra nationalist, he believed in the massive industrialization of the Union or else communism might lose to it capitalist neighbors.

The man of steel was also very instrumental at the defeat of the Nazi Germany.

So yes he ( Stalin ) left a very controversial legacy to the point where after his death, the Soviet Union underwent a process called De-Stalinization.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 6:32pm On Apr 01, 2025
dermmy:
Joseph Stalin was devil incarnate. May his soul rot in hell. The Soviet people didn't even like him. If not for the holocaust I would have said Stalin was more evil than Hitler. Both of them are in the same rank sef
You're very funny bro

Chairman Mao killed more people than both Hitler and Stalin combined. The funny thing is that he's still much revered in the Chinese society.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by akwesenana: 6:33pm On Apr 01, 2025
dermmy:
Joseph Stalin was devil incarnate. May his soul rot in hell. The Soviet people didn't even like him. If not for the holocaust I would have said Stalin was more evil than Hitler. Both of them are in the same rank sef
One death, a tragedy, a million deaths, a statistics, abi how he put am that year?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:35pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Same people calling Stephan Bandera a Nazi will tell us Joseph Stalin is a hero. The same Stalin who along with Hitler shared Eastern Europe in their bedrooms..

After Benito Mussolini of Italy no other leader shared Hitler "nazi bed" than the blood sucking vampire Joseph Stalin..

He is capuable for the start of ww2, without he
Signing the nonaggression pact with Adolf Hitler.
Hitler won't have risk starting WW2 as he won't have been able to fight on two fronts..
Nope.. The UK, France, Germany and Italy were the first to Balkanize Europe in 1938 Munich Agreement. Russia concluded her own agreement with Hitler the following year
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 6:36pm On Apr 01, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Today na your birthday...
You suppose dey jolly, not exchanging insults with a Nairalander
I don break bottles finish 🀣🀣
Now na me look broken πŸ’”πŸ’”
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by akwesenana: 6:37pm On Apr 01, 2025
usmanpogo:
You're very funny bro

Chairman Mao killed more people than both Hitler and Stalin combined. The funny thing is that he's still much revered in the Chinese society.
After all is said and done, world leaders would always do what (they think) is in the best interests of their country. Una wey dey carry these stuff serious, even offline dey muzz me. Everyone feel say them good. USA and Russia are both big-time aggressors. It's just that the hypocrisy dey brain-fingering at times.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dermmy(m): 6:39pm On Apr 01, 2025
usmanpogo:
You're very funny bro

Chairman Mao killed more people than both Hitler and Stalin combined. The funny thing is that he's still much revered in the Chinese society.
Yes Mao is still very revered in China because he was a revolutionary he alone recruited, trained and armed guerilla fighters that fought against Japanese invaders in China. After the 1949 revolution he expelled Western imperialists who had carved up China among themselves since mid 19th century. He made many mistakes with his Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward. He is the father of modern China. Mao to me still has good legacies compared to Hitler and Stalin.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by akwesenana: 6:40pm On Apr 01, 2025
dermmy:
Yes Mao is still very revered in China because he was a revolutionary he alone recruited, trained and armed guerilla fighters that fought against Japanese invaders in China. After the 1949 revolution he expelled Western imperialists who had carved up China among themselves since mid 19th century. He made many mistakes with his Cultural Revolution and Great Leap Forward. He is the father of modern China. Mao to me still has beautiful legacies than Hitler and Stalin.
The three, difference no too much. Just that Hitler was the craziest.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 6:43pm On Apr 01, 2025
jjj37:
Oh Yea yea.. So this 23jerryking is the dirty looking young man that once got his picture parade here. Ah this one never reach any where na, still having difficulties hatching.. Sometimes it's good to know who we chat with less we go around exchange words with bushwas.

You never chop belefull na banta for social media you wan come better your life with. Even heard he has another soft skill.. begging or should we say soliciting πŸ˜ƒ

# My advice for him and all others like him; be humble and be open to tutorship from people who are bigger than you, stop trying to use social media to fill in the missing gaps in life.
Who be this one? I have never at anytime begged anyone for anything. Come, what gives you the impression that you're anywhere or anything close to who and what I am? Shey na play? Somebody just went to my Facebook and brought a picture of me from a post I made from my grandma's poultry farm which I've worked upon for about a week and a few days. Something that happened two years ago o. Then you really think that's what defines me? You must be really airheaded sha. So petty. And to think that you even have the nerves to assume that I need any form of tutoring from you πŸ˜€πŸ˜€πŸ˜€. Jesus this is the height of it.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 6:46pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Poland one of the major backers of Ukraine,
Poland Is basically the the staging point for military aid going into Ukraine..

Poland leaders where very first forgien leaders to visit Zelensky in Kiev, the first country to offer tanks to Ukraine. First to send The Soviet era S300 to Ukraine..
When you guys are done with propaganda will go know!!
https://apnews.com/article/poland-ukraine-exhumations-8745207dc4fc4d55d339a1e6dcb414ff
You don't just get it, do you? Poland is helping Ukraine because according to their foreign policy objectives, Russia is their common enemy.. i.e the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Polish Ukrainian relations is not a smooth one according to the screen shots you posted. Which obviously align with my position. It says there's a "major irritant in their relation"...and they hope to break the standstill they have in that issue.

https://apnews.com/article/poland-ukraine-exhumations-8745207dc4fc4d55d339a1e6dcb414ff

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ricchmoen: 6:52pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Same people calling Stephan Bandera a Nazi will tell us Joseph Stalin is a hero. The same Stalin who along with Hitler shared Eastern Europe in their bedrooms..

After Benito Mussolini of Italy no other leader shared Hitler "nazi bed" than the blood sucking vampire Joseph Stalin..

He is capuable for the start of ww2, without he
Signing the nonaggression pact with Adolf Hitler.
Hitler won't have risk starting WW2 as he won't have been able to fight on two fronts..
sourcehuh
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ricchmoen: 6:53pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Same people calling Stephan Bandera a Nazi will tell us Joseph Stalin is a hero. The same Stalin who along with Hitler shared Eastern Europe in their bedrooms..

After Benito Mussolini of Italy no other leader shared Hitler "nazi bed" than the blood sucking vampire Joseph Stalin..

He is capuable for the start of ww2, without he
Signing the nonaggression pact with Adolf Hitler.
Hitler won't have risk starting WW2 as he won't have been able to fight on two fronts..
sourcehuh
If what u post here is even true why did Hitler break the pack with the soviet union??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 6:55pm On Apr 01, 2025
usmanpogo:
I like how you think

Ethically speaking he's both, just like every US president.
Stalin was also an ultra nationalist, he believed in the massive industrialization of the Union or else communism might lose to it capitalist neighbors.

The man of steel was also very instrumental at the defeat of the Nazi Germany.

So yes he ( Stalin ) left a very controversial legacy to the point where after his death, the Soviet Union underwent a process called De-Stalinization.
Yo the reason why I asked about Stalin is because, tagging someone a hero is subjective..

Stepan Bandera was actually instrumental in the first fight for Ukraine independence from the Soviet..

The nazis invading the Soviet Union was the perfect opportunity for him and his supporters of his of the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) to fight against Soviet Union occupation..

He formed Ukrainian National Committee which announced the ever first creation of a Ukrainian state.. even though the Ukrainian state was short lived as the Soviet later prevailed he was instrumental to the very first independent Ukrainian entity..

One thing we can't take from Bandera was he wanted an independent Ukrainian state, his fight for an independent Ukraine resonate with lots of Ukrainians expecially with Russia invasion of Ukraine.. They are bound to be people/politicians who supported his fight for an independent Ukraine.. All this are not say he was a good man, under his watch a lot of atrocities was carried out.


The same thing applies to ojukwu many igbos share in the sentiment that he was a freedom fighter a nationalist who wanted independence for his people, The biafra military committed a lot of atrocities during the war under his command..
While others may tag him a coward, successionist, while some see him as a hero who fought for his people.

While some igbos may hate him as his decision brought untold hardship on the region, others may tag him hero, and his nationalist views have inspired the likes of kanu and that guy from Finland..

So you tagging someone a Nazi a hero is subjective..
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:01pm On Apr 01, 2025
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
You don't just get it, do you? Poland is helping Ukraine because according to their foreign policy objectives, Russia is their common enemy.. i.e the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Polish Ukrainian relations is not a smooth one according to the screen shots you posted. Which obviously align with my position. It says there's a "major irritant in their relation"...and they hope to break the standstill they have in that issue.

https://apnews.com/article/poland-ukraine-exhumations-8745207dc4fc4d55d339a1e6dcb414ff
Is there any country whose relationship is smooth

Japan and South Korea are two major US allies they still have issues till tomorrow over japan's atrocities in Ww2..Do that make them any less allies??

The only issue was the exhumation of poles who were buried in Ukraine, which Zelensky accepted.
And that's settled.. the way you started your conversation was that's Poland was blocking Ukraine membership into the EU which is false.. they had issues which Zelensky has settled which was the movement of poles buried in Ukraine to Poland..
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:05pm On Apr 01, 2025
Ricchmoen:
sourcehuh
If what u post here is even true why did Hitler break the pack with the soviet union??
Check out the "Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact"
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 7:15pm On Apr 01, 2025
WritterNg:
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:19pm On Apr 01, 2025
usmanpogo:
You're very funny bro

Chairman Mao killed more people than both Hitler and Stalin combined. The funny thing is that he's still much revered in the Chinese society.
Chairman Mao a mass murderer extraordinaire..
They are school of thoughts in China that believes the killings by Mao was a necessary evil to make free China from foreign occupation..

Countries each have there own definition of what a hero is
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ghostagain: 7:55pm On Apr 01, 2025
Many people on this forum are mere teenagers. I'm watching these guys debate obvious things, make obvious mistakes and discover things I've known for more than 20 years. Yet they still think they are at my level. πŸ˜“

Sometimes the smart thing to do is to ignore the kids and let them grow at their own speed while you keep your intellect going.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 7:57pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Yo the reason why I asked about Stalin is because, tagging someone a hero is subjective..

Stepan Bandera was actually instrumental in the first fight for Ukraine independence from the Soviet..

The nazis invading the Soviet Union was the perfect opportunity for him and his supporters of his of the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) to fight against Soviet Union occupation..

He formed Ukrainian National Committee which announced the ever first creation of a Ukrainian state.. even though the Ukrainian state was short lived as the Soviet later prevailed he was instrumental to the very first independent Ukrainian entity..

One thing we can't take from Bandera was he wanted an independent Ukrainian state, his fight for an independent Ukraine resonate with lots of Ukrainians expecially with Russia invasion of Ukraine.. They are bound to be people/politicians who supported his fight for an independent Ukraine.. All this are not say he was a good man, under his watch a lot of atrocities was carried out.


The same thing applies to ojukwu many igbos share in the sentiment that he was a freedom fighter a nationalist who wanted independence for his people, The biafra military committed a lot of atrocities during the war under his command..
While others may tag him a coward, successionist, while some see him as a hero who fought for his people.

While some igbos may hate him as his decision brought untold hardship on the region, others may tag him hero, and his nationalist views have inspired the likes of kanu and that guy from Finland..

So you tagging someone a Nazi a hero is subjective..
Stop trying to whitewash Stephan Bandera atrocious past, from your write-up you only highlighted the fact that he fought for Ukrainian independence but you left out the part where he killed Jews, Poles and gypsies.

Wow you're really good, I bet you can make Hitler look like Jesus with the right motivation.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:34pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Is there any country whose relationship is smooth

Japan and South Korea are two major US allies they still have issues till tomorrow over japan's atrocities in Ww2..Do that make them any less allies??

The only issue was the exhumation of poles who were buried in Ukraine, which Zelensky accepted.
And that's settled.. the way you started your conversation was that's Poland was blocking Ukraine membership into the EU which is false.. they had issues which Zelensky has settled which was the movement of poles buried in Ukraine to Poland..
The difference is that the Japanese government does not celebrate nor do they rename public infrastructures with the name of those who committed these atrocities against the Koreans and Chinese.
It doesn't even end with exhumation.
Their families and descendants deserve financial restitution. As of 2023/2024 Germany were still paying war indemnity/reparation to Israel because of Holocaust.



OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The guy's right. There's a reason why Poland & Hungary is against Ukraine's EU membership. Ukronazis massacred hundreds of thousands of Polish civilians, burnt their corpse.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:34pm On Apr 01, 2025
usmanpogo:
Stop trying to whitewash Stephan Bandera atrocious past, from your write-up you only highlighted the fact that he fought for Ukrainian independence but you left out the part where he killed Jews, Poles and gypsies.

Wow you're really good, I bet you can make Hitler look like Jesus with the right motivation.
Stalin killed thousands he is called a hero in Russia
Moa killed Millions yet he is worshipping in China.


All am trying to bring out is the sentiment on why some people In Ukraine would be affectionate to him, A president gave him the title "hero of Ukraine" that's one of the highest recognition in Ukraine.

The same you highlighted the man of steel, massive industrialization of the Soviet Union as a plus to his credentials, is the same way I try to highlight badera independence fight..

Like I said earlier all our opinions are subjective,
Stalin and bandera are love by some and hated by others.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:37pm On Apr 01, 2025
Ghostagain:
Many people on this forum are mere teenagers. I'm watching these guys debate obvious things, make obvious mistakes and discover things I've known for more than 20 years. Yet they still think they are at my level. πŸ˜“

Sometimes the smart thing to do is to ignore the kids and let them grow at their own speed while you keep your intellect going.
Well said pedagogue!!

Have mercy on our "foolishness"

We are only but "teens" look upon us with mercy thou' mighty and well read sophist..
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by usmanpogo(m): 9:01pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Stalin killed thousands he is called a hero in Russia
Moa killed Millions yet he is worshipping in China.


All am trying to bring out is the sentiment on why some people In Ukraine would be affectionate to him, A president gave him the title "hero of Ukraine" that's one of the highest recognition in Ukraine.

The same you highlighted the man of steel, massive industrialization of the Soviet Union as a plus to his credentials, is the same way I try to highlight badera independence fight..

Like I said earlier all our opinions are subjective,
Stalin and bandera are love by some and hated by others.
Hitler made significant achievements too, I guess he's not all that bad or perhaps he could be considered a hero.
So where do you draw the line exactly ?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Ghostagain: 9:02pm On Apr 01, 2025
Bro, don't waste too much of your time on that kid, he only needs to grow and that takes time. His brain is not fully developed yet.
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The difference is that the Japanese government does not celebrate nor do they rename public infrastructures with the name of those who committed these atrocities against the Koreans and Chinese.
It doesn't even end with exhumation.
Their families and descendants deserve financial restitution. As of 2023/2024 Germany were still paying war indemnity/reparation to Israel because of Holocaust.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by WritterNg: 9:08pm On Apr 01, 2025
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 9:36pm On Apr 01, 2025
obedience4:
Same people calling Stephan Bandera a Nazi will tell us Joseph Stalin is a hero. The same Stalin who along with Hitler shared Eastern Europe in their bedrooms..

After Benito Mussolini of Italy no other leader shared Hitler "nazi bed" than the blood sucking vampire Joseph Stalin..

He is capuable for the start of ww2, without he
Signing the nonaggression pact with Adolf Hitler.
Hitler won't have risk starting WW2 as he won't have been able to fight on two fronts..
For reference, Joseph Stalin was Georgian and not Russian.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Betscoreodds: 10:58pm On Apr 01, 2025
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Olatunji1929: 11:52pm On Apr 01, 2025
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Betscoreodds: 1:00am On Apr 02, 2025
Olatunji1929:
abeg what's the name of your telegram channel
I don't have channel yet I just post it on one guys group once in a while I will announce here the place I will post it constantly for now am just giving admin free money any time he complains.
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