₦airaland Forum

Kobojunkie:
Aren't the men who go after these gals struggling with low self-esteem, demanding loyalty, respect, and submission from them, not equally in it for their outsized egos? Or do you pretend that such predatory behavior is ok so long as it is the woman on the receiving end for as long as she allows?

Loyalty and respect should be in any relationship otherwise what is the point?

It's a two way street, the problem with many of these people is that they want it to be a one way street.

Kobojunkie:
Stop lying! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

She clearly indicated that the marriage was a miserable one. She left the marriage some years ago, and just last November signed up to get her nose fixed.

That gender will always tell the story in a way ,that will make the husband look bad,even when she was the toxic person in the marriage. So I don't always believe what that gender says, except I was a witness. I am sure you are that same gender,right?

mmsen:
➜Loyalty and respect should be in any relationship otherwise what is the point?
➜It's a two way street, the problem with many of these people is that they want it to be a one way street.

Like I mentioned earlier, it is usually the men demanding loyalty and respect from such women, but never really bothering to reciprocate the gesture. Why else do you think we now have this idea that men ought to be able to cheat— be disloyal and disrespectful— in marriage and get away with it in places like Nigeria?

2. 2-way-street indeed when we have whole societies, even religions, insisting that women should be more understanding of their husbands' disloyalty and disrespect, right? Can we please stop saying things we truly don't believe?

Myrepublic:
➜That gender will always tell the story in a way ,that will make the husband look bad,even when she was the toxic person in the marriage. So I don't always believe what that gender says, except I was a witness. I am sure you are that same gender,right?

You already made up your mind that she is to blame because she is female. Just admit already instead of continuing to drag this out for no reason.

Kobojunkie:
Like I mentioned earlier, it is usually the men demanding loyalty and respect from such women, but never really bothering to reciprocate the gesture. Why else do you think we now have this idea that men ought to be able to cheat— be disloyal and disrespectful— in marriage and get away with it in places like Nigeria?

2. 2-way-street indeed when we have whole societies, even religions, insisting that women should be more understanding of their husbands' disloyalty and disrespect, right? Can we please stop saying things we truly don't believe?

You can only speak for yourself. I did not grow up where you did and this woman is not in Nigeria so your arguments are moot.

In the industrialized world, where this woman resides, the issues that you list are not the problem. Most divorces are initiated by women and marriage is largely pushed by women by surreptitious means. Women are quick to leave a marriage because they know that the court will favor them, no matter what they did.

The misdeeds that you complain about are also committed by women, in Nigeria and without. There's a serious problem with paternity fraud that has been left to fester, globally. Even worse, in the western world there are zero sanctions against such and a woman who obtains child support by way of dishonest is not held to task by the judicial system. Which other kind of fraud do you know is ignored in such a manner?

Those religions that you speak of, xtianity in particular, are propped up by women's attendance and women's donations. If there's a problem with the nonsense that they peddle maybe speak to the women and ask why they support anti-female dogma?

mmsen:
➜You can only speak for yourself. I did not grow up where you did and this woman is not in Nigeria so your arguments are moot.
➜ In the industrialized world, where this woman resides, the issues that you list are not the problem.
➜ Most divorces are initiated by women and marriage is largely pushed by women by surreptitious means. Women are quick to leave a marriage because they know that the court will favor them, no matter what they did.
➜ The misdeeds that you complain about are also committed by women, in Nigeria and without. There's a serious problem with paternity fraud that has been left to fester, globally. Even worse, in the western world there are zero sanctions against such and a woman who obtains child support by way of dishonest is not held to task by the judicial system. Which other kind of fraud do you know is ignored in such a manner?
➜ Those religions that you speak of, xtianity in particular, are propped up by women's attendance and women's donations. If there's a problem with the nonsense that they peddle maybe speak to the women and ask why they support anti-female dogma?

1. Nonsense talk!

2. That is a bloody arse lie and you know it.

3. That most divorces are initiated by women does not change the fact that even in an industrialized world, the sort of behavior described also exists amongst men.

4. But we don't have society giving men the same suggestion that they give women when their husbands cheat on them, do you? I have yet to find a case where society or even religion has encouraged men to be understanding of and even go as far as to accept paternity fraud, have you? So we are talking here of two different things.

5. Your traditional institutions are equally religious in orientation; this isn't just about a particular religion, as your traditions all cover for disloyalty and disrespect of women in relationships. Also, last I checked, a man who cheats on his wife in marriage could easily have her absolved as a second wife, even though it is of disloyalty and a lack of respect for his previous wife.

Was the man making fun of her nose?

Kobojunkie:
1. Nonsense talk!

2. That is a bloody arse lie and you know it.

3. That most divorces are initiated by women does not change the fact that even in an industrialized world, the sort of behavior described also exists amongst men.

4. But we don't have society giving men the same suggestion that they give women when their husbands cheat on them, do you? I have yet to find a case where society or even religion has encouraged men to be understanding of and even go as far as to accept paternity fraud, have you? So we are talking here of two different things.

5. Your traditional institutions are equally religious in orientation; this isn't just about a particular religion, as your traditions all cover for disloyalty and disrespect of women in relationships. Also, last I checked, a man who cheats on his wife in marriage could easily have her absolved as a second wife, even though it is of disloyalty and a lack of respect for his previous wife.

I don't belong to nor hold allegiance to any traditional institution. I don't know anything about this second wife talk, that's for the birds.

Why is it nonsense to state that you and I did not grow up in the same place? Maybe, this is why you fail to understand that the relationship dynamic in the western world is entirely different to Africa? Show me an African man who will tolerate his wife physically assaulting him in public? Show me the institutions that will turn a blind eye to the verbal abuse that I have witnessed meted out by women to their husbands? The economic situation of women in the western world is not as dire as it is for African women and thus they are more able and willing to exercise (and abuse) their muscles.

Divorce being initiated by women speaks to the level or power and control that women have in their relationships. The outcomes of those proceedings are suggestive of a system that is punitive towards men.

The courts essentially tell men that they must care for children that are not theirs when they levy child support even after the truth has been revealed. That is much more important than anything else. The law and knowledge of the legal outcomes as well as material conditions and potential benefits are what shape human behavior. Women realize that they can maltreat their husbands, lie about abuse at their hands of their husbands, lie about the paternity of their children and they will suffer zero ramifications. Worse still, they will be rewarded with the family house, a portion of the man's income and even his pension. Why men still get married in the western world is beyond me.

mmsen:
➜I don't belong to nor hold allegiance to any traditional institution. I don't know anything about this second wife talk, that's for the birds. Why is it nonsense to state that you and I did not grow up in the same place? Maybe, this is why you fail to understand that the relationship dynamic in the western world is entirely different to Africa? Show me an African man who will tolerate his wife physically assaulting him in public? Show me the institutions that will turn a blind eye to the verbal abuse that I have witnessed meted out by women to their husbands? The economic situation of women in the western world is not as dire as it is for African women and thus they are more able and willing to exercise (and abuse) their muscles.
➜ Divorce being initiated by women speaks to the level or power and control that women have in their relationships. The outcomes of those proceedings are suggestive of a system that is punitive towards men.
➜ The courts essentially tell men that they must care for children that are not theirs when they levy child support even after the truth has been revealed. That is much more important than anything else. The law and knowledge of the legal outcomes as well as material conditions and potential benefits are what shape human behavior. Women realize that they can maltreat their husbands, lie about abuse at their hands of their husbands, lie about the paternity of their children and they will suffer zero ramifications. Worse still, they will be rewarded with the family house, a portion of the man's income and even his pension. Why men still get married in the western world is beyond me.

1. We do not need to have grown up in the same know to understand or know of the realities of life and living on this planet. So, quit with the nonsense abeg! 🙄🙄

2. Nonsense talk! This woman sought a divorce after enduring a miserable marriage for many years. That women initiate divorce does not negate the fact that many of them may have endured miserable marriage situations before they eventually gave up and sought divorce as a way out. 🙄🙄

3. Bullsheet! 🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
1. We do not need to have grown up in the same know to understand or know of the realities of life and living on this planet. So, quit with the nonsense abeg! 🙄🙄

2. Nonsense talk! This woman sought a divorce after enduring a miserable marriage for many years. That women initiate divorce does not negate the fact that many of them may have endured miserable marriage situations before they eventually gave up and sought divorce as a way out. 🙄🙄

3. Bullsheet! 🙄🙄

Women choose the men that they ultimately marry. Where is the accountability for her bad decision making?

We only have one side of the story and it is very much a story at this point.

Just because you don't like the truth does not make it "bullsheet".

Law Forces Men to Support Children Who Aren't Theirs
https://www.foxnews.com/story/law-forces-men-to-support-children-who-arent-theirs

Men who later learn they are not the biological father of their child often find themselves without relief. If you later learn you are the victim of paternity fraud, it is not as easy as submitting the DNA test results to the court to eliminate a child support order. Depending on the jurisdiction, once the deadlines for contesting paternity have passed and the court has ordered terms for support, you may still be obligated to continue to support the child despite the fact that a DNA test has proven you are not the father. In fact, many states have declared that a DNA test alone is not sufficient to vacate a paternity order. Family courts are courts of equity and if the biological father is not produced, the courts may completely overlook the victimization and turn to the best interest of the child which is to continue to require you to support the child.
https://dadsdivorce.com/articles/what-you-need-to-know-about-paternity-fraud/

mmsen:
➜Women choose the men that they ultimately marry. Where is the accountability for her bad decision making?
➜ We only have one side of the story and it is very much a story at this point.
➜ Just because you don't like the truth does not make it "bullsheet". ....

1. Bullsheet!

2. You admit you only have one side of he story, yet you have conveniently concluded that this one side is the one to take all of the blame. Even more bullsheet!

3. I am simply not in the mood for more of your bullsheet claims, is what. 🙄🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
1. Bullsheet!

2. You admit you only have one side of he story, yet you have conveniently concluded that this one side is the one to take all of the blame. Even more bullsheet!

3. I am simply not in the mood for more of your bullsheet claims, is what. 🙄🙄🙄

Anything you don't like. Anything that is verifiable is bullshit. I have posted links and reputable sources to articles that you do not want to read.

Instead you keep repeating "bullsheet", like a child or parrot.

All you want to do is argue, for the sake of it.

We did not grow up in the same place, under the same circumstances and it shows. You do not have a relationship with the truth.

Madam, go read a book.

mmsen:
➜Anything you don't like. Anything that is verifiable is bullshit. All you want to do is argue, for the sake of it. Madam, go read a book.

I happen to be reading a book as we speak.

As for bullsheet, it has nothing to do with what I like or don't like... bullsheet is just bullsheet!

Kobojunkie:
Good move! Don't let insecurities keep you tied down in a loveless/unhappy marriage. It has never been worth it to do so.

Lolz! If you are like this in real life... Peace go far from you ooo

Fearyourcreator:
➜Lolz! If you are like this in real life... Peace go far from you ooo

Peace goes far from those who are open-minded and accepting of the fact that every human has a right to happiness and freedom? 😑😑😑

Your upbringing must have been filled with numerous contradictions for you to believe that. 😶😶😶😶

Rage bait always works on Nairaland. A true recipe for “engagement.”

Ipobfraud:
I nearly confused her for proboscis monkey.

Take am easy oga

I agreed, she had every reason to go under the knife. These are the people whom facial and cosmetic surgeries are meant for. Her ex husband even tried living with that, many Nigerian men would run away at first sight

franchasng:
That means most women that married broke or financially struggling husband's accepted their husbands because they knew they were not beautiful enough to attract their dream man

Meaning if your wife was as pretty as she wished, she wouldn't have ever looked your face talk more of accepting to marry you, isorai

It is a known fact

Kobojunkie:
Ah! I see you want to specially interpret the story in a way that strengthens your particular bias! Anyways, you are, after all, free to subscribe to any particular delusion that makes you feel better about yourself there. So, good luck!

I thought gays have nothing with marriages, what is happening?

Ikpunekenwa:
➜I thought gays have nothing with marriages, what is happening?

Are you sure you are OK?

If this was not photoshopped or AI generated then I don't think it's only the nose that was fixed. Looks to me like the lips were too. But that left nose looks excessive to be true. Not saying women haven't left men for less

idahme:
Odumama no time have u ever said anything sane...u will love d whole world to be single like u...

She is both single and miserable

The nose looks better now. The surgery was meaningful.

D woman nose get back bone😂😂

Kobojunkie:
Peace goes far from those who are open-minded and accepting of the fact that every human has a right to happiness and freedom? 😑😑😑

Your upbringing must have been filled with numerous contradictions for you to believe that. 😶😶😶😶

Bitter human...

Exceed15:
She did it because of people like u.. lol

Eeyaaaaaaaa

killuminati:
My nose grows like that of Pinoccio
Cos i mastered the art of braggadocio

Agba👏👏👏

66ungs:
Agba👏👏👏

i guess you know the drills

pansophist:
The husband might even be the one that sponsored the nose job sef, but his reward?

To be dumped and his marriage described as miserable.

How casual it is for some women to throw men under the bus still shocks me, like, no empathy or the recognition of men as humans worthy of love.

Like for most men, it is in the arms of their woman they can feel anything close to warmth, but sadly, such arms is where hell begins.

Empathy and feminity are almost mutually exclusive

JovialJune:
Afofugbemu mashanfani Asinwin

Has anyone ever fisted you before?

Your pùssy needs TLC urgently

RaySimran:
My $11K nose job helped me leave my husband




Source: https://nypost.com/2025/04/02/lifestyle/i-felt-reborn-after-my-major-11k-nose-job-i-even-left-my-husband-a-month-later/

They now pay much money to have flat nose.

Whereas persons with flat nose were part of those ones segregated in those historic days due to racism.