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clockwisereport:
You can never know the culture more than a son of the soil.

Mbiambia amaghi oke ala

Na Nsukka you speak so? No!

Go back home and get acquainted with your culture wnd traditions

clockwisereport:
I am from Nsukka town, Amaeze Owerre to be precise. I live very close to senator Okoro.

I lived all my life in Nsukka except for few occasions I lived in Bauchi, Rivers and Enugu town

Late Senator okoro? Is it his house at Odenigbo or his village?

dangermouse:
Late Senator okoro? Is it his house at Odenigbo or his village?

His house is at Amaeze, very close to Pedro Azowue's house.

Also close to Sunny Ngwu's house.

If you get to Ugwuoye Junction, take the route to Echara road. You will see a Storey building where they sell electrical wires and the likes. That is Pedro's house. Opposite the house is a block industry.

The senator'a house is after the block industry. It is a white storey building. His son has rented it out to a church called Beautiful Gate

dangermouse:
Na Nsukka you speak so? No!

Go back home and get acquainted with your culture wnd traditions

Lol. I am home as we speak. I am a traditional man. You don't even know senator Okoro's house and you are blabbing. Who in Nsukka does not know Agbadamal's house

clockwisereport:
Lol. I am home as we speak. I am a traditional man. You don't even know senator Okoro's house and you are blabbing. Who in Nsukka does not know Agbadamal's house

Blabbing you say?

Lol.

Been long i left Nsukla. Went there last maybe 2 years ago when i visited the country.

My friends,the Ugwuanyi's at odenigbo, Uche, Ebere, etc are related to Late Fidelis Okoro. There mum and fidelis are from same parents.

Fidelis used to have a house at Odenigbo then. Dont know about now. He used to own Milipat hotels, near Queens school, were we used to host our parties then in school. I know him very well, even his children. though i dont associate with them then.

Good to know you are at Nsukka. I miss the serenity of the town. Hope the town is good?

nosa2ekundayo:
➜U only say so because you never witnessed it... Again, those saying its real are not all dumb illiterates you know...
➜[b]Speaking of "facts" [/b]do you know that it's fact for a man born in the 20th century, that this has been the actual taste of the current Titus fish/coca cola in the market...to such a man, it's a fact! But to the older men, they know exactly what has changed and I hope you would agree with me that it is never their responsibility to open the head of a 20th generation man and stick the difference in there...if they got a spare time, they would just notify the later.
➜There is nothing they can do to change the "facts " such a 20th generation man wields.

1. 🤔

2. I don't agree! 🤔

3. Facts are not established by way of one's memories or emotional response to a situation but by reality of things at the time of the events or experience. Facts aren't subjective notions.

clockwisereport:
His house is at Amaeze, very close to Pedro Azowue's house.

Also close to Sunny Ngwu's house.

If you get to Ugwuoye Junction, take the route to Echara road. You will see a Storey building where they sell electrical wires and the likes. That is Pedro's house. Opposite the house is a block industry.

The senator'a house is after the block industry. It is a white storey building. His son has rented it out to a church called Beautiful Gate

Ok. Letf the town many years ago and it feels good interacting with you. Nsukka is a good place and i miss the town, with all the variety of foods and beautiful babes lol.

Hope the town is still good. Will definitely be there when next i visit the country

Morizo:
➜Let's leave it at that please...but if anyone from such cultures was here then it's easier. Some Metaphysical and paranormal activities are not easy to explain. It doesn't have it's roots in science so an investigation might not be conclusive.
➜ So do you think the ritual killings in Ogun and many states are just for fun? Or to invoke certain spirits into the bodies of the living for power or protection. Why did you think government haven't passed a law specifically for ritual? Except Soludo recently.. Probably cos it can't be proven in court except the murder aspect.
➜ You might not believe in the presence of spirits but I do cos of a boyhood encounter that left me with an indelible mark till date. Even in medieval Europe, the Roman Catholic church had special monks and priests called Exorcists. It wasn't for fun, they were using unorthodox methods to tackle malevolent presence in humans. Until it was outlawed by Pope Gregory (I think) when it was being abused.
➜ I cannot convince even myself that paranormal activities can be invoked in some cultures but it DOES exist

1. Untestable, meaning these things cannot be known for certain by the human mind, right? Leading to the conclusion that those who claim they know it are merely deluded in their reasoning. 🤨

2. Why would you think the Government would need to pass a law specifically for rituals? Aren't there already laws that criminalize murder, killings, etc? 🙄🙄🙄

3. Exorcists whose former patients used to occupy mental asylums but are now able to, in some cases, live regular lives thanks to advancements made in medical science, particularly in the area of mental health treatment, abi? 🙄🙄🙄

4. You can't convince yourself, but you are sure it exists? Is this an attempt at a paradox or what?

Krismas:
➜ Water? What you are implying is tantamount to saying since all the waters you have drank so far are contaminated, then ALL WATERS EVERYWHERE IS CONTAMINATED. Which is fallacy of hasty generalization.
➜ You can only vouch for what you know, stretching it too wide or extrapolating your tiny experience over the entire discuss, with such reckless confidence, is to perpetuate falsehood. If i sleep with a number of virgins and the experience was largely unsatisfactory. That does not mean ALL VIRGINS are sexually unsatisfactory. Or else i might endup, like d fellow on the brink of mental meltdown, persistently advising DNA testing on NL, cos to him, boreholes cannot be trusted!

Wrong, given that tests have shown that contamination is not the same at all, as contaminants vary from situation to situation. Your little assertion there fails. Generalizing the elemental structure of water is not considered hasty at all. Rather, it is akin to setting a base standard by which all other proposed ideas can be tested or measured against.

2. Sure! I already vouched for what I investigated and know. Now it is up to you to prove that what you know is different from what I have established so far. This is simple!

dangermouse:
Are you saying that the spiritual does not exist?

Then stop going to church or mosque as the case applies.

The spiritual controls the physical. A known fact everywhere in the world.

Those ancient juju/ dieties you hear about, do you really know how they came into existence?

Do your research well. Go back to your root and ask the elderly ones in your village questions. They will open your eyes and you will be amazed.

I'm closer to my root than you can imagine. I'm a Christian and no where in the Bible will you see preaching a separate entity floating somewhere after death. Gen. 2:7 is clear enough. You return to the dust once the breath of life leaves your body, which makes perfect sense and rational.
The idea that people still live on even after death is the first lie told to man. "You'll not surely die" sounds familiar? Beware of fallen angels impersonating dead people known to you. It's a trap. If they're alive, then you won't find their bodies in their graves.
We have an annual ritual in my hometown where they claim dead people come home to drop messages for their loved ones. Guess what? It's a ruse even though it seems too real to be fake. It's still the initiates that impersonate the dead people. I know because I was part of it for a time. Don't let anyone deceive you. If you die, you die. Only the second coming of Christ is the hope of resurrection.

Quarterpast:
Most nairalanders don't respond to him again

Sounds like the best thing to do.

Osgilliat:
✓ It’s not the spirit that is not allowing him to rest, the supposed killer has developed PTSD. That’s what is making him restless.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Juliearth:
Sounds like the best thing to do.

They know him already. They don't engage him at all. Only those who are unable to stomach his excesses tend to reply him. Majority do not. I thought Hellanus was provoking and annoying, but this guy is worse

I pour am spit for face.
I pour am 20litres of my saliva

Kobojunkie:
1. When someone is running up and down, the last thing you should do is jump to conclusions without evidence. I recall back during my childhood, it happened that a friend of mine woke up one day screaming from the top of his lungs about how the witches were out to get him, apologizing for bad things he had done. Everyone around was unnerved by it, some even concluded this friend was of the occult. It turned out he had a high fever and was experiencing what is known as delirium. Of course, that did not stop some from that day on from spreading rumors about him having occult connections. It was all so sad, really. I was probably 11 around that time and quickly realized how utterly ignorant many would rather choose to live their lives even in the face of evidence.

2. It does not need to happen in front of you, but you need to be sure to confirm the claims made. According to the magun myth, only the one married to the man can put this supposed thing on the woman he is married to. At least this used to be the tale back during the 80s and 90s when I first started hearing of that nonsense. According to the myth, Magun was used by husbands in blood ties to seal their marriages, well, at least their wives, against adultery, and death would take place as the man penetrated the sealed woman.

But here you are telling us that magun— is this one an upgrade from the old magun, magun 1.0— can now be placed on a wife by a stranger, and the husband of said woman could become a victim. Not only that, this magun has the special ability to cause a man to somersault 3 times after sex — not during — before he then succumbs.... this story don tire me abeg!

There are just so many more questions, but many of the same old holes that existed back when I was a kid with no answers until even now.

3. Na only entertainers dey spread lies?

All these for me? Na wah. Can't even read. It's not compulsory you believe simply because you're not there in person when the event took place as narrated by witnesses ok? You may now rest

Eriokanmi:
All these for me? Na wah. Can't even read. It's not compulsory you believe simply because you're not there in person when the event took place as narrated by witnesses ok? You may now rest

What witnesses? Trading dem-say-dem-says does not make one a witness. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Kobojunkie:
Wrong, given that tests have shown that contamination is not the same at all, as contaminants vary from situation to situation. Your little assertion there fails. Generalizing the elemental structure of water is not considered hasty at all. Rather, it is akin to setting a base standard by which all other proposed ideas can be tested or measured against.

2. Sure! I already vouched for what I investigated and know. Now it is up to you to prove that what you know is different from what I have established so far. This is simple!

Your speech is near meaningless
1. I think u trying to say there are established standard for water? Sure.
But knowledge of such standard is even more important. Its like the law, though written in black and white, yet a lot of people are oblivious to their rights and privileges. Its possible you are oblivious to the standards surrounding voodoo attacks.
2. Unlike you, all my research into the matter shows its highly credible, Voodoo attacks of retaliatory nature.
And i can even buttress with instances

Kobojunkie:
What witnesses? Trading dem-say-dem-says does not make one a witness. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

My inlaws aren't liars, likewise my sister inlaw who witnessed the event of first story I told you.They're still alive till today in their 80s while my sister inlaw is in her 60s.

My problem with you is your mindset which was why I decided not to engage you further. To you, everyone is a liar just because the event never took place in your presence, it's very bad

Krismas:
1. Your speech is near meaningless
1. I think u trying to say there are established standard for water? Sure.
But knowledge of such standard is even more important. Its like the law, though written in black and white, yet a lot of people are oblivious to their rights and privileges. Its possible you are oblivious to the standards surrounding voodoo attacks.
2. Unlike you, all my research into the matter shows its highly credible, Voodoo attacks of retaliatory nature.
And i can even buttress with instances

1. Wrong! My initial statement was in the atomic structure of water -- H2O-- elemental composition of water. That there exists heavy water --- H3O---in some cases does not change the established base. This is nothing to do with laws. 😐

Also, your insinuations regarding contamination does not change the elemental structure as there is no evidence to show it even possible.

2. And I have continually asked you to provide this proof you have. This is probably not the first time you have engaged me on this issue. So why haven't you been able to provide this proof for these credible cases you claim to have researched?

Eriokanmi:
✓ My inlaws aren't liars, likewise my sister inlaw who witnessed the event of first story I told you.They're still alive till today in their 80s while my sister inlaw is in her 60s.
✓ My problem with you is your mindset which was why I decided not to engage you further. To you, everyone is a liar just because the event never took place in your presence, it's very bad

1. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am just supposed to believe you got this, abi? 🤣

2. The problem here isn't my mindset but your inability to provide proof for all of the claims you have made so far.

And no, it is not to me. Humans are by default liars... We tend to dissect things first from a subjective-generally false -- perspective before we then approach the more objective aspects, if at all. Those who are close-minded tend to completely ignore the objective, focusing more on the subjective. These people tend to lie a lot.

Yugoslavia247:
Shut up you pig

How your mother greets your father.
Your family would make a great petting zoo

Kobojunkie:
1. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I am just supposed to believe you got this, abi? 🤣

2. The problem here isn't my mindset but your inability to provide proof for all of the claims you have made so far.

And no, it is not to me. Humans are by default liars... We tend to dissect things first from a subjective-generally false -- perspective before we then approach the more objective aspects, if at all. Those who are close-minded tend to completely ignore the objective, focusing more on the subjective. These people tend to lie a lot.

So, what more proof do you need...visiting the octogenarians and my sis inlaw who witnessed the incident and interview them in person or exhuming the victim's body and breathe a life into him so you can interview him?

Babaibeji2020:
Are you a bandit?
Why are channeling your discussion to banditry......?

Bendeco02:
All these don't work.

Dead person has gone

All the bandits killing people, has their victim ever attack them spiritually?

Shakau killed thousands of people in the North East, we know how he was killed by ISWAP rival not his dead victims

Are you a bandit?
Why are you channeling your discussion to banditry......?

Eriokanmi:
➜So, what more proof do you need...visiting the octogenarians and my sis inlaw who witnessed the incident and interview them in person
➜or exhuming the victim's body and breathe a life into him so you can interview him?

Your story does not place them as witnesses but rather as those who concocted much of the uncorroborated tales which you so gullible accepted as truth. For example,
⚉ The woman whose husband supposedly somersaulted 3 times right after having sex with her never saw anyone place magun on her, but was somehow certain magun was responsible.
⚉ The mother of the deceased, who cursed her son to seek out and kill the one responsible, chose to believe that a man who died in the community only days later had to have been responsible, without there being any direct connection
⚉ Those who supposedly witnessed the second man's death — you didn't even bother to corroborate that end of the story— told the mother of the deceased(since I doubt she or anyone in her household witnessed it themselves) claimed he mentioned the name of the dead man before he died, which sounds a little too convenient.
⚉ And then there is you coming to tell us that because those two women claimed it is so, then it had to have been so.

It all comes together like an episode from Tales by Moonlight to me. Also, it is kind of far-fetched to believe that when a person dies, the person levels up to become a killing machine to be used by those who are still living. Doesn't it? If that were the case, why do people even bother training armies or hiring snipers and the lot? 🤔

2. At this point, you could exhume the bodies and have them autopsied, check both men's medical records of history to ascertain what in fact killed each one, and then go back through the details of the stories told by all parties involved so you can eliminate the many holes that the story seems riddled with.

Kobojunkie:
1. Wrong! My initial statement was in the atomic structure of water -- H2O-- elemental composition of water. That there exists heavy water --- H3O---in some cases does not change the established base. This is nothing to do with laws. 😐

Also, your insinuations regarding contamination does not change the elemental structure as there is no evidence to show it even possible.

2. And I have continually asked you to provide this proof you have. This is probably not the first time you have engaged me on this issue. So why haven't you been able to provide this proof for these credible cases you claim to have researched?

To start with, heavy water is D20. I have never seen anything like H30 in my life. And i once won best chemistry student in lower secondary
Your water analogy is washy. Near fake. U may need to rephrase your analogy.
2. There are plethora of instances. So, let me start with the last Grand master of the Knight's Templar.
Pope Clement the V and Philip IV the king of France.

in summary
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EJrrH71B3e8?feature=share

Elaborate read
https://thetemplarknight.com/2013/03/17/last-templar-grand-master-executed-on-march-18th/

Fasinating death of Clement
Clement died on 20 April 1314.[18] According to one account, while his body was lying in state, a thunderstorm arose during the night and lightning struck the church where his body lay, setting it on fire.[a] The fire was so intense that by the time it was extinguished, the Pope's body had been all but destroyed.[20] He was buried at the collegiate church in Uzeste close to his birthplace in Villandraut as laid down in his will.[19]

Kobojunkie:
Your story does not place them as witnesses but rather as those who concocted much of the uncorroborated tales which you so gullible accepted as truth. For example,
⚉ The woman whose husband supposedly somersaulted 3 times right after having sex with her never saw anyone place magun on her, but was somehow certain magun was responsible.
⚉ The mother of the deceased, who cursed her son to seek out and kill the one responsible, chose to believe that a man who died in the community only days later had to have been responsible, without there being any direct connection
⚉ Those who supposedly witnessed the second man's death — you didn't even bother to corroborate that end of the story— told the mother of the deceased(since I doubt she or anyone in her household witnessed it themselves) claimed he mentioned the name of the dead man before he died, which sounds a little too convenient.
⚉ And then there is you coming to tell us that because those two women claimed it is so, then it had to have been so.

It all comes together like an episode from Tales by Moonlight to me. Also, it is kind of far-fetched to believe that when a person dies, the person levels up to become a killing machine to be used by those who are still living. Doesn't it? If that were the case, why do people even bother training armies or hiring snipers and the lot? 🤔

2. At this point, you could exhume the bodies and have them autopsied, check both men's medical records of history to ascertain what in fact killed each one, and then go back through the details of the stories told by all parties involved so you can eliminate the many holes that the story seems riddled with.

They're liars while you're right. Hope you can rest now, the wise one

Eriokanmi:
They're liars while you're right. Hope you can rest now, the wise one

🙄🙄🙄 The story is false until proven otherwise.

Krismas:
➜ To start with, heavy water is D20. I have never seen anything like H30 in my life. And i once won best chemistry student in lower secondary Your water analogy is washy. Near fake. U may need to rephrase your analogy.
2. There are plethora of instances. So, let me start with the last Grand master of the Knight's Templar. Pope Clement the V and Philip IV the king of France.
in summary
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EJrrH71B3e8?feature=share
Elaborate read
https://thetemplarknight.com/2013/03/17/last-templar-grand-master-executed-on-march-18th/
Fasinating death of Clement
Clement died on 20 April 1314.[18] According to one account, while his body was lying in state, a thunderstorm arose during the night and lightning struck the church where his body lay, setting it on fire.[a] The fire was so intense that by the time it was extinguished, the Pope's body had been all but destroyed.[20] He was buried at the collegiate church in Uzeste close to his birthplace in Villandraut as laid down in his will.[19]

1. My mistake!

2. Storyland! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
1. My mistake!

2. Storyland! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

2. Its hatched in history. Bury ur head in sand of doubt all you want, like proverbial Ostrich and continue your crusade of empty declarations that Voodoo does not exist

Next example is ATTAH AMEH OBONI
The Igala monarch who Queen Elizabeth ran from

1st read
https://reportersatlarge.com/2022/09/12/attah-ameh-oboni-the-nigerian-king-who-chose-suicide-instead-of-bowing-to-the-queen-of-england/

The Voodoo
He was allegedly quoted to have said that ‘the person who wrote the petition against him would have the hands dried up, and that the leader of the gang or petitioners would be buried three times’. And it all came to pass.

Krismas:
➜ 2. Its hatched in history. Bury ur head in sand of doubt all you want, like proverbial Ostrich and continue your crusade of empty declarations that Voodoo does not exist
➜ Next example is ATTAH AMEH OBONI
The Igala monarch who Queen Elizabeth ran from
1st read https://reportersatlarge.com/2022/09/12/attah-ameh-oboni-the-nigerian-king-who-chose-suicide-instead-of-bowing-to-the-queen-of-england/ The Voodoo
He [b]was allegedly quoted to have said that ‘the person who wrote the petition against him would have the hands dried up, and that the leader of the gang or petitioners would be buried three times’. And it all came to pass. [/b]

Even tales of Santa Claus, Vampires, etc, are also hatched in history, but we all know what they are...well, maybe not everyone. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

2. Allegedly ? Your intention is to waste my time and yours, abi?

Kobojunkie:
Even tales of Santa Claus, Vampires, etc, are also hatched in history, but we all know what they are...well, maybe not everyone. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

2. Allegedly ? Your intention is to waste my time and yours, abi?

1. Myth is myth and history is history. The demarcation is unmistakable.
a. Jacques de Molay was burnt alive by Phillip IV and Pope Clement. HISTORIC FACT
b. Those present heard Molay, place a curse on Phillip and Clement. HISTORIC FACT
c.. And both died accordingly. HISTORIC FACT.
So, the myth only exist in ur delusional mind

2. Those who wrote the petition against Attah Ameh Oboni, Died. HISTORIC FACT
Allegedly, only refers to whether he predicted this or not. Which is irrelevant.
Those who caused his death, all died mysteriously. Thats the Voodoo

Krismas:
1. Myth is myth and history is history. The demarcation is unmistakable.
a. Jacques de Molay was burnt alive by Phillip IV and Pope Clement. HISTORIC FACT
b. Those present heard Molay, place a curse on Phillip and Clement. HISTORIC FACT
c.. And both died accordingly. HISTORIC FACT.
So, the myth only exist in ur delusional mind
2. Those who wrote the petition against Attah Ameh Oboni, Died. HISTORIC FACT
Allegedly, only refers to whether he predicted this or not. Which is irrelevant.
Those who caused his death, all died mysteriously. Thats the Voodoo

Apparently not for all of us since you keep mistaking myth for history! 🙄🙄🙄

2. So, death only comes down to those who are cursed? Nonsense! Please spare me your bullsheet abeg! I have better things to do on my Saturday. Good luck though! 🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
Apparently not for all of us since you keep mistaking myth for history! 🙄🙄🙄

2. So, death only comes down to those who are cursed? Nonsense! Please spare me your bullsheet abeg! I have better things to do on my Saturday. Good luck though! 🙄🙄

1. U are the one confused as to the difference between myth and history
2. Mysterious death, comes down to the cursed. Thats specifically the issue.
Afterwards, i have no regard for your fake dismissive disposition of Voodoo in the Storries. It doesn't make you look like down-to-earth or something. You only naive.
In conclusion, all my research show the veracity of Voodoo and i care less about childish aspersions people like you cast on d subject