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ednut1:
most Nigerians cant afford fast food on a daily basis. With minimum wage you can afford fast food here duhh. Bread, burger, chicken, turkey, donut, soft drink, juice etc are cheap here na

Fast food is poison.

Why are you saying it like it's something to aspire to?

mmsen:
Wherever there are people, there are problems. Only a child thinks otherwise.

Taxes, especially property taxes after you've "bought" your home.

Work place matters that turn into legal issues.

Domestic issues that become legal issues.

Racial/gender judicial bias is very common in the western legal system. As are crooked and incompetent lawyers.

Health issues, compounded by problems with health insurance provider or the competency and diligence of the healthcare provider. This is why so many people cheered when the health insurance executive in NYC was murdered.

Workplace stress which manifests itself as health issues. See above. There's a reason why most people in north America, Britain and Australia are overweight. Or why narcotics are so popular in those countries. Or why America is stuck in the midst of an opioid crisis.

Inflation.

Bad weather.

Crime.

Just so we are on same page, I have two question for you
Have you lived in the west before?
We still talking about Stress right?

mmsen:
Fast food is poison.

Why are you saying it like it's something to aspire to?

This is why I say some people are missing the point.,
In the UK and the US, rubbish food are cheap, good food expensive

erico2k2:
This is why I say some people are missing the point.,
In the UK and the US, rubbish food are cheap, good food expensive

That's the truth.

mmsen
All what you wrote up there are not stress, they are called societal ills.
Let me tell you what stress is so you know
1 when at the End of the month you do not get paid as a civil servant
2 the fear of retiring cos you pension is not guaranteed
3 you close from work and you get home there is no electricity
4 it rained hard your transformer blew up and PHCN is asking all landlord to contribute money
5 You kid is sick and you rush em to the hospital and they ask for money first b4 treatment
6 You friend got arrested with no proof and you have to pay to bail them
7 Youy go to the ATM to collect your own money and there is no fund or network
8 Your house is o n fire and there is nothing you can do and no one is going to pay you back
9yyou load your phone with N20K and the credit zap in 3 days
10 you buy credit and all of a sudden no network coverage
11 if you live in places with no private bore hole it means you and your kids have to walk far or buy water
I dont want to even add police brutality thats another topic
you want me to go on and name more stress?

erico2k2:
Just so we are on same page, I have two question for you
Have you lived in the west before?
We still talking about Stress right?

Yes.

Sadly, i know about it all too well.

Moving abroad does not eliminate stress, you are only swapping one set of problems for another. I don't think people who have never lived abroad understand this. You think you are moving to heaven meanwhile many of the people there are dreaming of moving to somewhere with better weather, better food and a lower cost of living. That's why Thailand is full of people from Australia, America, Canada and Britain.

mmsen:
Yes.

Sadly, i know about it all too well.

Moving abroad does not eliminate stress, you are only swapping one set of problems for another. I don't think people who have never lived abroad understand this. You think you are moving to heaven meanwhile many of the people there are dreaming of moving to somewhere with better weather, better food and a lower cost of living. That's why Thailand is full of people from Australia, America, Canada and Britain.

Bro I dont know how long you have lived abroad, but I have lived abroad for up to 25 years, So I know what I am talking about.
Those things you listed are No stress, check what I listed, those are stress.

erico2k2:
mmsen
All what you wrote up there are not stress, they are called societal ills.
Let me tell you what stress is so you know
1 when at the End of the month you do not get paid as a civil servant
2 the fear of retiring cos you pension is not guaranteed
3 you close from work and you get home there is no electricity
4 it rained hard your transformer blew up and PHCN is asking all landlord to contribute money
5 You kid is sick and you rush em to the hospital and they ask for money first b4 treatment
6 You friend got arrested with no proof and you have to pay to bail them
7 Youy go to the ATM to collect your own money and there is no fund or network
8 Your house is o n fire and there is nothing you can do and no one is going to pay you back
9yyou load your phone with N20K and the credit zap in 3 daysI hear you.
10 you buy credit and all of a sudden no network coverage
11 if you live in places with no private bore hole it means you and your kids have to walk far or buy water
I dont want to even add police brutality thats another topic
you want me to go on and name more stress?

"Societal ills" don't cause stress?

You think people in Europe like seeing their heating bills go up year after year? Have you ever sat in a cold parlor in February in Germany? I guarantee that you will not enjoy the experience one bit.

Every year, throughout Europe people die because of the cold. They are either homeless and cannot find a shelter to take them in or they die in their domiciles that they cannot afford to heat. The problem will only get worse as the cost of heating increases.

Wherever you go in this world there are problems. The issue I have with Africans is that rather than do the little things to make life easier for the majority an extreme form of stupidity and shortsightedness means that people would rather engage in the most foolish communal practices known to man and then cry about "government". The government is but a symptom of the greater issues.

mmsen:
"Societal ills" don't cause stress?

You think people in Europe like seeing their heating bills go up year after year? Have you ever sat in a cold parlor in February in Germany? I guarantee that you will not enjoy the experience one bit.

Every year, throughout people die because of the cold. They are either homeless and cannot find a shelter to take them in or they die in their domiciles that they cannot afford to heat. The problem will only get worse as the cost of heating increases.

Wherever you go in this world there are problems. The issue I have with Africans is that rather than do the little things to make life easier for the majority an extreme form of stupidity and shortsightedness means that people would rather engage in the most foolish communal practices known to man and then cry about "government". The government is but a symptom of the greater issues.

I dont think you understood what I wrote, stress is way different from problem, Do you think the UK government or the US or Canadian government cann afford to owes its civil service one month salary?

erico2k2:
Bro I dont know how long you have lived abroad, but I have lived abroad for up to 25 years, So I know what I am talking about.
Those things you listed are No stress, check what I listed, those are stress.

Wow, that's a long time...

You must be the only person here who has lived abroad...

Surely nobody here has spent that much time outside of Nigeria, that's completely impossible...



The sad reality of this conversation is that it's the myopia that I see of Nigerians at home and abroad that makes the situation in Nigeria so much worse. It's almost as if Nigerians are incapable of looking at the entire chessboard but would rather look at everything from a pawn's eye view. The idea that their understanding of events is not everyone else's does not enter their heads.

You all cry about the likes of Tinubu, Obasanjo and the fool from Daura. The problem is, they are not anomalies. They are the majority of you. Most of you cannot see the forest for the trees.

erico2k2:
I dont think you understood what I wrote, stress is way different from problem, Do you think the UK government or the US or Canadian government cann afford to owes its civil service one month salary?

Why do you think doctor's in the UK have been striking consistently over the past few years?

Rail workers the same.

Teachers, same.

You think it's because their salaries cover their growing expenses?

Nehyooh:
Na so dey talk am o, when you dey country wey get working system, your body sef go dey alright.

But seriously bro, don't you know Nigeria drain lots of people?

Bro you will sleep more and better in Nigeria unless your papa na politician or you are insanely rich abroad. Na who go go know.. I can't lie to you.

mmsen:
Wow, that's a long time...

You must be the only person here who has lived abroad...

Surely nobody here has spent that much time outside of Nigeria, that's completely impossible...



The sad reality of this conversation is that it's the myopia that I see of Nigerians at home and abroad that make the situation in Nigeria so much worse. It's almost as if Nigerians are incapable at looking at the entire chessboard but would rather look at everything from a pawn's eye view. The idea that their understanding of events is not everyone else's does not enter their heads.

There was no need for what you just said you now are trying to sound myopic and patronising for lack of choice word his does not in anyway add value to the conversation rather a deviation from us making sense. I would like to think I am having a discos with someone intelligent/I said, what they call stress in the west is equal to someone living the dream in Nigeria as the vast majority of the things that would have given us stress in the west have been taken care of by government. This was what I said then I went further to list the stress in Nigeria which you said absolute nothing about or bothered to read and respond to.
this is what I said an none of these stress exist in the west

1 when at the End of the month you do not get paid as a civil servant
2 the fear of retiring cos you pension is not guaranteed
3 you close from work and you get home there is no electricity
4 it rained hard your transformer blew up and PHCN is asking all landlord to contribute money
5 You kid is sick and you rush em to the hospital and they ask for money first b4 treatment
6 You friend got arrested with no proof and you have to pay to bail them
7 Youy go to the ATM to collect your own money and there is no fund or network
8 Your house is o n fire and there is nothing you can do and no one is going to pay you back
9yyou load your phone with N20K and the credit zap in 3 daysI hear you.
10 you buy credit and all of a sudden no network coverage
11 if you live in places with no private bore hole it means you and your kids have to walk far or buy water
I dont want to even add police brutality thats another topic

mmsen:
Why do you think doctor's in the UK have been striking consistently over the past few years?

Rail workers the same.

Teachers, same.

You think it's because their salaries cover their growing expenses?

PAY RISE, its not cos of stress.Very different,
Nigerians dont even get paid let alone of pay rise.
Bross I love Nigeria and my family live there, Im the only one in the Uk, sometimes I ask how do people survive in Nigeria .The stress level there is off the hook, I can support my family cos I live and earn in POUNDS.so do others. If you ea rn N500k today you are a poor man not even middle class, the middle class now is N1m above

erico2k2:
There was no need for what you just said you now are trying to sound myopic and patronising for lack of choice word his does not in anyway add value to the conversation rather a deviation from us making sense. I would like to think I am having a discos with someone intelligent/I said, what they call stress in the west is equal to someone living the dream in Nigeria as the vast majority of the things that would have given us stress in the west have been taken care of by government. This was what I said then I went further to list the stress in Nigeria which you said absolute nothing about or bothered to read and respond to.
this is what I said an none of these stress exist in the west

1 when at the End of the month you do not get paid as a civil servant
2 the fear of retiring cos you pension is not guaranteed
3 you close from work and you get home there is no electricity
4 it rained hard your transformer blew up and PHCN is asking all landlord to contribute money
5 You kid is sick and you rush em to the hospital and they ask for money first b4 treatment
6 You friend got arrested with no proof and you have to pay to bail them
7 Youy go to the ATM to collect your own money and there is no fund or network
8 Your house is o n fire and there is nothing you can do and no one is going to pay you back
9yyou load your phone with N20K and the credit zap in 3 daysI hear you.
10 you buy credit and all of a sudden no network coverage
11 if you live in places with no private bore hole it means you and your kids have to walk far or buy water
I dont want to even add police brutality thats another topic

Yes, those are all stressful experiences but you seem to want to dictate what people have a right to feel stressed about. How is that not arrogance? I have not denied that those are stressful events, I have simply explained that there are causes of stress in the west too. There is nowhere where people are not feeling stressed right now.

You think if you see your monthly bills increase from $2500 to $4500 that you won't feel stressed?

You think that your property tax doubling in 5 years won't cause stress? Especially when your salary has not doubled?

There are people who have seen their wealth drop from $50m to $10m who feel stressed. It isn't for you to say that is not stress.

You think there's no police abuse in the west? You think the judicial system won't railroad you? There are no corrupt judges? Prosecutors?

erico2k2:
PAY RISE, its not cos of stress.Very different,
Nigerians dont even get paid let alone of pay rise.
Bross I love Nigeria and my family live there, Im the only one in the Uk, sometimes I ask how do people survive in Nigeria .The stress level there is off the hook, I can support my family cos I live and earn in POUNDS.so do others. If you ea rn N500k today you are a poor man not even middle class, the middle class now is N1m above

When I said you are very typical of most Nigerians you got upset but this dismissive attitude of other people's problems is what I see with most of you guys. Even your own children you have contempt for because they didn't grow up in the dysfunction that you were forced to deal with.

Their problems are real problems.

If they don't get paid enough to pay their bills and are forced to borrow money how is that good? You think it's a pleasant feeling worrying about losing your home? That isn't stressful?

mmsen:
Yes, those are all stressful experiences but you seem to want to dictate what people have a right to feel stressed about. How is that not arrogance? I have not denied that those are stressful events, I have simply explained that there are causes of stress in the west too. There is nowhere where people are not feeling stressed right now.

You think if you see your monthly bills increase from $2500 to $4500 that you won't feel stressed?

You think that your property tax doubling in 5 years won't cause stress? Especially when your salary has not doubled?

There are people who have seen their wealth drop from $50m to $10m who feel stressed. It isn't for you to say that is not stress.

I am not dictating rather I am stating facts..Those things you listed up there will not stress us here in the west as us not having electricity or not being paid at the end of the month and FYI the value of my property has increased a long with the tax, it is now valued more.
Also this 2500 to 45400 is that an Assumption or you stating something you know that I dont ?

mmsen:
When I said you are very typical of most Nigerians you got upset but this dismissive attitude of other people's problems is what I see with most of you guys. Even your own children you have contempt for because they didn't grow up in the dysfunction that you were forced to deal with.

Their problems are real problems.

If they don't get paid enough to pay their bills and are forced to borrow money how is that good? You think it's a pleasant feeling worrying about losing your home? That isn't stressful?

Typical Nigerian always trying to prove a point even when the reality is steering at them, I just said Government of this modern western countries do not o we its workers, I have never been owed salary in my whole life abroad, this only exist in Nigeria in the context of our conversation, Why are you relating none payment of salary to the west ?
Now bringing in kids is a bellow the bet blow, you my friend was not raised right,I think you got Dadys Issues, let me go and check you post ,you seriously got issues

erico2k2:
I am not dictating rather I am stating facts..Those things you listed up there will not stress us here in the west as us not having electricity or not being paid at the end of the month and FYI the value of my property has increased a long with the tax, it is now valued more.
Also this 2500 to 45400 is that an Assumption or you stating something you know that I dont ?

I'm speaking what I know but because it doesn't correlate with you what you believe you dismiss it out hand.

This is the perverse level of arrogance that I've come to expect from you people.

Talking to people like you really is a waste of time and energy because you are as a body incapable of listening or empathy. Completely incapable to a frightening degree. It's the real reason why Nigeria is the way that it is.

Any trained professional psychiatrist will tell you that things I've mentioned will causes stress but you don't agree because of course Mr Naija always knows better.

Expand your reading and horizons.

Causes of Stress
https://www.webmd.com/balance/causes-of-stress


What Causes Stress?
https://psychcentral.com/stress/what-causes-stress

mmsen:
I'm speaking what I know but because it doesn't correlate with you what you believe you dismiss out hand.

This is the perverse level of arrogance that I've come to expect from you people.

Talking to people like you really is a waste of time and energy because you are as a body incapable of listening or empathy. Completely incapable to a frightening degree. It's the real reason why Nigeria is the way that it is.

Any trained professional psychiatrist will tell you that things I've mentioned will causes stress but you don't agree because of course Mr Naija always knows better.

Expand your reading and horizons.

Causes of Stress
https://www.webmd.com/balance/causes-of-stress


What Causes Stress?
https://psychcentral.com/stress/what-causes-stress

You think cos you boast that you was Born in one shyyyty Northern Europe country, that gives you the damn right to call Nigerians YOU PEOPLE, who give a damnnnn if you was born in Poland or one of those fake counties, Or you think you are better than the rest of us who by the way do very well abroad. Your country might have stress deal with your own stress however you see fit.Your school of thought does not in anyway reflect that of a typical Nigeria with the I can aptitude aint said nothing you jumping into kids,You sound biter and come across like o ne of them ones.
Them link you posted there shows you are incapable of having a meaningful conversation or rather lack comprehension, I am saying what you call stress i n the west is nowhere near what they call stress in Nigeria, obviously I now know you know nest to nothing about Nigeria as claimed in one of your post from 2012 unlees you was chatting BS.How is this hard to comprehend.

KnowledgePower7:
So enviroment dey affect skin color?? i no understand

u will really don’t understand

mmsen:
Fast food is poison.

Why are you saying it like it's something to aspire to?

my comment is about why people are getting fatter abroad. Are they not using sniper on beans and crayfish in Nigeria. Dont they use detergent to soak fufu in same Nigeria? Abeg rest

erico2k2:
fast food cheap in 9ja? you don try Bole and fish??
Bread in the Uk is still less than One pound plus bake beans is still less than 50 Pence

i meant fast food is cheap abroad

Damilgodwin:
1. The environment
2. The weather
3. Make the other people drop their own😁😁

No witch craft,bad Belle

Aaaahhhhh

kings59:
Stop embarrassing yourself

The beautiful environment: the way streets are constructed, houses, trees, roads, and glowing lights. Those things would add to the picture effect.


I give up on Nairaland, too many illiterates here. I can't stay in an environment where fools, tribal bigots, and perpetrators are inhibited because I don't want to be like or sound like them.

No need to quote me because I have deactivated this account!


I'm done!

Mmsen and erico2k2 made good points. Both say the same thing but from different perspectives. There's stress everywhere. It just differs based on living standards.

miketayo:
Lol Canadians walk more than Nigerians, if you hear stone throw in Canada just book Uber.

Not to work . Leisurely and in the evening . And depends where you live downtown close to amenities yes but in the borough you drive around.

rickleye:
Not to work . Leisurely and in the evening . And depends where you live downtown close to amenities yes but in the borough you drive around.

Nah, everywhere, these people call 5km a stroll. they only drive when they need to carry groceries or the place is really far.
That's not happening in Nigeria

The Air you breath abroad is most filtered , which result in body rejuvenation and by extension skin refreshment
There is no air pollution like we have in Africa and some Arab nations and also India

KnowledgePower7:
One of my padi padi travelled to canada january this year.
If you see this guy pictures now you go shock
Back in naija this same guy resemble Jagaban. normally the guy wor wor but he get bar.
Upon all the bar, his skin no fresh always has an oily face.

After spending 3 months in canada the guy face come cleaaarr and clean. Over fresh come dey worry am.
His instagram pics come be like before and after
I come dey wonder how??
Is their something in abroad air or is it their water or their food??

Why do nigerians begin to look fresh after going abroad

KnowledgePower7:
So enviroment dey affect skin color?? i no understand

yes , 💯 I used to have pimples a lot before I traveled to Egypt, but it went away by itself after few months there, it could be because a lot of what we consume here are substandard though.

erico2k2:
I told you B4 you was ignorant, that's my passport, and my window, where did you think I live
To prevent embarrassment, invest in a better phone so you can at least check people well B4 you make silly assumption, now plz run along and play with your mates or better still foxtrot Oscar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Your "dire" need to prove a point..

What Inferiority Complex..

Oga..

The mere fact you have to want to prove something to me says it all..

Go and work on your inner child traumas..

erico2k2:
Oh you dont know, let me brake it down. The vast majority of Nigerians never owned a smart phone then or have broadband. Also in 2007 we were less thana Hundred members then and there was respect. Also more than 70 Percent then lived abroad. So your shyt little Mind think everyone is like them lot from your small well organized Camp who have no ambition of ever leaving the hunting they are restricted to.

I see now..

You come from a "not-well-to-do" background..

So the need to show that "you have arrived"...far away from your HISTORICAL BACKGROUND...

YOU ARE MEDIOCRE IN YOUR CORE!

What you deem an "achievement" is laughably RUBBISH to me..

Go and work on your home bred INFERIORITY COMPLEX!