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Gabrielshow24:
😅What can you expect from someone who has reduced his understanding to the whims of his jelly bean god? This outright clown once had the audacity to suggest that his jelly bean deity was foolish! But don’t be fooled by the mention of Jehovah; he’s really talking about the Jehovah of Chicago! 😅

which one is jahovah of Chicago again? This is my first time hearing this one o

achorladey:
Na so that liar and manipulator be. The same Jesus that said people will worship the father in spirit and truth and don't need to go to Jerusalem or Samaria paapaa.

As in... I don't even understand what that one is talking about. He obviously sounds like an ignorant fellow

IyfeNamikaze:
Didn't Jesus minister and Share the Goodnews with the Samaritan woman at the well?

Please check verse 22 of John chapter 4 and see what Jesus told the Samaritan woman:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews"

So Jesus will never ever agree to worship with anyone outside the temple in Jerusalem!

It was after his sacrificial death that the door was opened for Jews and gentiles to worship God as brothers and sisters through Christ Jesus but before he laid down his life it is forbidden!

That's why the angel inside the temple in Jerusalem left {Matthew 27:51} because God is no longer backing Judaism Jesus finished the work on the torture stake {John 19:30} but Christianity replaced Judaism so for all interested persons to know God sent his Holy Spirit to support Christians worshiping in another location outside the temple! Act 2:1-4

It was after Jesus' ascension that what he said about worship was established! John 4:23-24

pimplucious:
Bible wielding, ship sailing, slave taking European bandits brought Christianity to you in the western part while Camel riding, desert gliding, land conquering marauding Arabian slave takers brought Islam in the north and told you your culture is evil but their is what God recognize and you think they want your best interest?

Sit down and think about this.

Are you the one who will stop the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords? Not even the host of darkness could stop him from rising from the dead. How much more now that he is glorified and seated on the right hand of His Majesty.

This was how Noah was mocked in his days when he was building the ark. The flood eventually came and they all died.

Except you repent, you will likewise perish.

butterfly777:
To make serious allegations like this, you have to at least substantiate them by citing examples, otherwise, your assertiins are baseless and just empty mudslinging.

I await your proofs so that I may take you seriously.

It's not important. Those involved know themselves. Some victims already did that on YouTube. Do your search. But I won't do it.

IyfeNamikaze:
which one is jahovah of Chicago again? This is my first time hearing this one o

It's an abridged version of the real Jehovah, created by 8 men. They took Jehovah's transcendence and turned it to non-transcendence. They also created doctrinal caricatures of his Son, Jesus, by giving him a different identity—In the words of paul, they preached a different Jehovah/Jesus from the one preached in the bible! That's why their own Jehovah got the name, Jehovah of Chicago 👀!

Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.

It is true. I also have the same experience although in a different setting. I had taught many people fx trading before and some of them are in money now living well off due to my training but I hit the rocks and things have not been very good on my side. That not withstanding I have never been angry or bothering them nor do I count anything against them, for me they paid me my fees to be trained and God has blessed them.. So there is really no need to be angry when the people we train eventually breakout into success. Everyone has a destiny from God.

GiftofGod77:
It is true. I also have the same experience although in a different setting. I had taught many people fx trading before and some of them are in money now living well off due to my training but I hit the rocks and things have not been very good on my side. That not withstanding I have never been angry or bothering them nor do I count anything against them, for me they paid me my fees to be trained and God has blessed them.. So there is really no need to be angry when the people we train eventually breakout into success. Everyone has a destiny from God.

You are right. We should do away with envy and help one another to succeed.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you still reading his comments?

Well i only does when the post is short and precise that's the time his brain works fine so he will go straight to what he has in mind but whenever he types an epistle know that he's desperately looking for a way to console himself with lengthy stories by the time the reader gets tired you will forget the correlation between his post and the one he quoted to respond to.

That's why the other guy could truthfully say:

Severally I've warned you to stop quoting me yet you're as defiant and unrepentant as Satan the devi.l. Christians live peaceably with others but here you are upsetting me with constant mentions. I charge you before God Who made you and I to stop quoting me unless you are of the dark and wicked one.

CJStarz:
Severally I've warned you to stop quoting me yet you're as defiant and unrepentant as Satan the devi.l. Christians live peaceably with others but here you are upsetting me with constant mentions. I charge you before God Who made you and I to stop quoting me unless you are of the dark and wicked one.

You are an evil person, instead of asking why i keep quoting that post all you are here doing is using commanding tone as if it's a crime to quote people on Nairaland.
If you're this stupid how can you settle matters between two people quarrelling?
Someone keeps following, quoting and mentioning me using abusive speeches all over the forum with off point comments you never caution him to stop it but because nah JW me i be so i must not talk shey?
Say this prayer
"may God judge between CJStarz and MaxInDHouse whoever is at fault on this matter"

From my side i say AMEN.
Say the same if you're not an evil person!

MaxInDHouse:
Please check verse 22 of John chapter 4 and see what Jesus told the Samaritan woman:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews"

So Jesus will never ever agree to worship with anyone outside the temple in Jerusalem!

I think you're just dumb. That quote doesn't mean that Jesus will never worship with anyone outside of the temple, it means that the Jews are the ones who are going to begin the salvation work. Jesus was a Jew and he began the work which he passed over to his disciples who were Jews to spread it all over the world and to the the gentiles.

I have given you examples of where Jesus worshipped with people outside the Temple. But it seems you're mischievously selective with your reading, and that's because you don't even understand a thing that's in the Bible and also because you're hellbent on pushing an agenda.

IyfeNamikaze:
I think you're just dumb.

If you're not stupid you should have noted that Jesus emphasized several times on the importance of worship in the temple.
He never prayed with anyone unless those that accepts his teachings! John 17:8-9
He refer to gentiles as "dogs" Matthew 15:24
He told his disciples to go only to Jews! Matthew 10:6
He chose only Jews as Apostles! Matthew 10:2; Luke 6:13

So all you need to ask is WHY?
Not insulting someone who knows better than you do simply because you see some doing the same!

IyfeNamikaze:
That quote doesn't mean that Jesus will never worship with anyone outside of the temple, it means that the Jews are the ones who are going to begin the salvation work. Jesus was a Jew and he began the work which he passed over to his disciples who were Jews to spread it all over the world and to the the gentiles.

I explained that it was after his earthly mission and ascension to heaven that his disciples began preaching to gentiles but if you feel you have an idea please quote a verse where Jesus purposely preached to a gentile.

IyfeNamikaze:
I have given you examples of where Jesus worshipped with people outside the Temple. But it seems you're mischievously selective with your reading, and that's because you don't even understand a thing that's in the Bible and also because you're hellbent on pushing an agenda.

Obviously you don't know the difference between WORSHIP and HELPING others.
For your information if you see a beggar on your way to work and gave him what you have to assist him does that mean you are worshiping with the malam?

Jesus has the power to heal and he used it doesn't mean he is worshiping at that spot with those he helped o!

MaxInDHouse:
The Hebrew word translated to Hell in English is called "SHEOL" in Greek it is called "HADES" both simple means GRAVE.
So Hell is the common grave of all humans, all the prophets of God are presently in Hell. Only Jesus was raised from Hell the third day.
So what you need is knowledge not just mimicking what you are told.

You see how you twist hell twist hell twist out to grave. Continue. I know you will argue, no problem. At least someone told you.

MaxInDHouse:
The Hebrew word translated to Hell in English is called "SHEOL" in Greek it is called "HADES" both simple means GRAVE.
So Hell is the common grave of all humans, all the prophets of God are presently in Hell. Only Jesus was raised from Hell the third day.
So what you need is knowledge not just mimicking what you are told.

You see how you decieve yourself " all the prophets of God are in hell" you and who? That same bible you read upside down tells you how he went to hell, led captives free from hell, Jesus himself warned about hell, yet you twist your doctrine. May light shine in your heart!

Cheeryfeet:
You see how you twist hell twist hell twist out to grave. Continue. I know you will argue, no problem. At least someone told you.

Brainwashing has finished you those films humans fabricated is what you keep seeing in your mind each time you hear the word "HELL" right?
Well help yourself, go find the meaning of what your rulers interpreted as a place of torment.
At least i've told you today the word is SHEOL (Hebrew) HADES (Greek) and HELL (English) all means the same thing: GRAVE!

Cheeryfeet:
You see how you decieve yourself " all the prophets of God are in hell" you and who? That same bible you read upside down tells you how he went to hell, led captives free from hell, Jesus himself warned about hell, yet you twist your doctrine. May light shine in your heart!

You don't know the scriptures that's why you call truth argument.
Jesus has the power to resurrect people from the dead so illustratively he released them from the pangs of death: GRAVE.
Your pastors brainwashed you people so much that nothing good comes to your mind about God other than the terror they infused in your head about torment.
Well i've told you today you can continue with your dreams the truth remains that death is the end of a sinner not a place of torment.

Ken4Christ:
You are right. We should do away with envy and help one another to succeed.

Yes no envy at all, there is more than enough resources and wealth for everyone. It's just a matter of time and patience and getting our minds calm after making our relationship with God to be cordial via the mercy of Christ. Things will definitely get well for everyone. It is carnal and childish to envy others especially the ones we helped. Huge lesson in life.

@ HardMirror and Scholar208 after close to ten years MaxInDHouse is carrying on with the peddling of lies and manipulations about Kumuyi being a former or a cut from Jehovah's witness

IyfeNamikaze:
I think you're just dumb. That quote doesn't mean that Jesus will never worship with anyone outside of the temple, it means that the Jews are the ones who are going to begin the salvation work. Jesus was a Jew and he began the work which he passed over to his disciples who were Jews to spread it all over the world and to the the gentiles.

I have given you examples of where Jesus worshipped with people outside the Temple. But it seems you're mischievously selective with your reading, and that's because you don't even understand a thing that's in the Bible and also because you're hellbent on pushing an agenda.

He wants to equate salvation with worship and then force you to accept it as the truth because you know they believe no one out there has the correct interpretation and understanding of the Bible outside of their so called Jehovah's organization organization.

He just wants to keep rolling into his lies and manipulations filled into that his brains.

MaxInDHouse:
If you're not stupid you should have noted that Jesus emphasized several times on the importance of worship in the temple.
He never prayed with anyone unless those that accepts his teachings! John 17:8-9
He refer to gentiles as "dogs" Matthew 15:24
He told his disciples to go only to Jews! Matthew 10:6
He chose only Jews as Apostles! Matthew 10:2; Luke 6:13

So all you need to ask is WHY?
Not insulting someone who knows better than you do simply because you see some doing the same!


I explained that it was after his earthly mission and ascension to heaven that his disciples began preaching to gentiles but if you feel you have an idea please quote a verse where Jesus purposely preached to a gentile.



Obviously you don't know the difference between WORSHIP and HELPING others.
For your information if you see a beggar on your way to work and gave him what you have to assist him does that mean you are worshiping with the malam?

Jesus has the power to heal and he used it doesn't mean he is worshiping at that spot with those he helped o!

This should be the last time I'm going to reply to your ignorance.

Jesus never emphasized on the importance of worshipping in the temple, he worshipped God several times outside the Temple e.g During the Last supper, During the miracles of the bread and fishes. In fact he actually told his disciples to not glorify the temple because a time would come when it would be destroyed and never rebuild again.

"He never prayed with anyone unless those that accepts his teachings! John 17:8-9"
And what exactly does this have to do with anything? Of course he will pray with anyone who accepts his teachings, gentile or Jew. What's the need in praying someone who rejects you?
You have no point at all, you're just quoting bible verses without any context or understanding... Like a typical ignorant fellow.

"He refer to gentiles as "dogs" Matthew 15:24"
You also lack the understanding of figures of speech. He used a relatable analogy to explain his mission, that doesn't mean he refers to gentile as dogs. THIS just completely shows that you are here to Push some agenda and not debating in good faith.

"He told his disciples to go only to Jews! Matthew 10:6"
Because the salvation work needs to start with them! They're the ones who had a covenant with God so they're the ones that should first get the upgrade of that covenant before anyone else. I have explained this before but you seem to only read selectively.

"He chose only Jews as Apostles! Matthew 10:2; Luke 6:13"
Again with stupid and out of context quoting of verses. Was he supposed to choose disciples from gentiles who worship a different god? People who don't understand the teachings of the prophets?

"Not insulting someone who knows better than you do simply because you see some doing the same!"

Abeg you don't know anything and it's become obvious what your agenda here is. You don't even try to counter my points, all you do is double down on your ignorant and half baked understanding of the bible and quote verses you don't even understand without any context. It rats you out as a mischievous person. And I've lost patience with your kind, nowadays once I detect it I call you out on your nonsense! Jesus said to not debate with Fools and to rebuke any bad spirit.

"
I explained that it was after his earthly mission and ascension to heaven that his disciples began preaching to gentiles but if you feel you have an idea please quote a verse where Jesus purposely preached to a gentile."

The Samaritan woman is what? Is she a Jew?
Didn't he also preach in Samaritan Towns?
Jesus specifically went to the land of the Gentile Gadarenes or Gerasenes, east of the Sea of Galilee, to minister to them. This was where Jesus sent the demons into the pigs and it appears in all three synoptic Gospels (Mark 5:1-20; Luke 8:26-39; Matthew 8:28-34).

Also check out this passage:
Matthew 12:17-18, 20-21 This was to fulfil what was spoken by the prophet Isaiah: [18] “Behold, my servant whom I have chosen, my beloved with whom my soul is well pleased. I will put my Spirit upon him, and he shall proclaim justice to the Gentiles. . . . [20] he will not break a bruised reed or quench a smoldering wick, till he brings justice to victory; [21] and in his name will the Gentiles hope.”
Another example is Jesus telling the Jewish “chief priests and scribes” (Matthew 21:15) and “Pharisees” (21:45) that righteous Gentiles will enter the kingdom before self-righteous Jews (like them):

Matthew 21:42-43, 45 Jesus said to them, “Have you never read in the scriptures: `The very stone which the builders rejected has become the head of the corner; this was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvelous in our eyes’? [43] Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a nation producing the fruits of it.” [45] When the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he was speaking about them.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, as a testimony to all nations; and then the end will come. (cf. Mark 13:10; Luke 24:47)


All these are times when Jesus showed inclusivity in his salvation work

MaxInDHouse:
Are you still reading his comments?

Well i only does when the post is short and precise that's the time his brain works fine so he will go straight to what he has in mind but whenever he types an epistle know that he's desperately looking for a way to console himself with lengthy stories by the time the reader gets tired you will forget the correlation between his post and the one he quoted to respond to.

That's why the other guy could truthfully say:

The above is the reason you kept chasing CJ on another thread and lamenting he is not calling me to order over your madness and insanities peddling brains peddling lies and manipulations about others

Are you still reading his comments?

Hypocrite, you are reading allow your werey peddling brains brother read so that he can peddle more mumu and no get sense peddling

Well i only does when the post is short and precise that's the time his brain works fine so he will go straight to what he has in mind but whenever he types an epistle know that he's desperately looking for a way to console himself with lengthy stories by the time the reader gets tired you will forget the correlation between his post and the one he quoted to respond to.

Evidence full Nairaland that my response both short and long epistle you call it to your comments open more pains and lamentations for your madness and insanities peddling brains.

MaxInDHouse:
'Go and study the scriptures'
You say 'no' yet you want to argue!

So says Jesus only worship with Jews alone

Gabrielshow24:
They say wisdom is found in elders, but you seem to be the shining example of folly. If I'm truly spouting nonsense, feel free to pop my bubble😉. Yet, it appears you've skillfully dodged every question I've thrown your way. Perhaps it's time to reflect on that elusive wisdom you claim to possess!

Looooool! E get reason why Janosky aka JaNosense is the werey peddling brains with mumu and no get sense peddling

Gabrielshow24:
😅This is extremely laughable, I don't believe a sane person that reads the bible will come up with such ludicrous doctrines, it's borderline pathetic!

Doctrines that contradict even his own religious publications

Janosky:
Do you achorladey watch JW's broadast & read watchtower publications, attend meetings?

Achorladey is doing these & he's using abusive language to label JW's.

You say Iya Basirat food brainwash & harm the patrons but nah you the accuser dey eat her food steady dey lick plate.

Oga,You are very ment.

I know your werey peddling brains will ask your mumu and no get sense peddling questions as usual

Do you achorladey watch JW's broadast & read watchtower publications, attend meetings?

Experience from the years of being one of Jehovah's Witnesses tells me your JW broadcasting will never air any programme that is anything negative about your so called Jehovah's organization. U till today it won't be different going by the way your religious organization operates. They cannot afford to allow members know they are not different from those they condemn

Achorladey is doing these & he's using abusive language to label JW's.

Pains and Lamentations from front runners regarding use of abuse and insults on anyone who don't dance to their tune. I am not abusing or insulting you, I am describing your ways here and it gives you alot of room to peddle mumu and no get sense peddling.

You say Iya Basirat food brainwash & harm the patrons but nah you the accuser dey eat her food steady dey lick plate.

You know I am not eating but exposing what you prepare as food for others to eat and you don't like it the reason for your werey peddlings about it.

Oga,You are very ment.

Ment peddling na the work of Janosky aka JaNosense the werey peddling brains

MaxInDHouse:
Because you follow the crowd nah! Exodus 23:1-2
What is the meaning of Sheol and Gehenna the original Hebrew words your people translated Hell and Hellfire?

Not everyone that don't follow crowd is right. Stop peddling madness and insanities about the scriptures.

achorladey:
He wants to equate salvation with worship and then force you to accept it as the truth because you know they believe no one out there has the correct interpretation and understanding of the Bible outside of their so called Jehovah's organization organization.

He just wants to keep rolling into his lies and manipulations filled into that his brains.

He can only do that with gullible and ignorant people, not with me. He just quotes verses without understanding what that verse is talking about and its context.

Janosky:

So you follow dey watch JW's broadcast?

Awon Werey achorladey always fond of LYING.

Werey peddling brains the ones I watched while being a member is enough for me to know anything negative about your religious organization will not be on the programme

So you follow dey watch JW's broadcast?

Read the above to correct your werey peddling brains about watching or not.

Awon Werey achorladey always fond of LYING

Werey peddling brains aka JaNosense aka Janosky lying and manipulating scriptures na your inheritance from your GODS of men housed in USA

Janosky:

JW's hold political office inside achorladey brain in Russia.


Awon Werey

😂🤣😂🤣🤣

I know your werey peddling brains cannot comprehend the post. Jehovah's witnesses call their government THEOCRACY that is from top to bottom style of government not democracy

Russia style of government is as good as top to bottom style of government.

Awon Werey

You didn't complete it, Janosky awon Werey peddling brains

achorladey:
Not everyone that don't follow crowd is right. Stop peddling madness and insanities about the scriptures.

Exactly, you are right because you have the TRUTH not because of population! The TRUTH always speaks for itself. It doesn't need a population appeal.

IyfeNamikaze:
He can only do that with gullible and ignorant people, not with me. He just quotes verses without understanding what that verse is talking about and its context.

That's why when some hail them, I smh. Jehovah's witnesses can give you the kind of face they want you to see. It is what they are being trained to do week in week out. All those religious publications are not just scriptural stuff. They are blended with different kind of scenarios people out there will seek and how they are expected to perform

They are very good at manipulating content and context of scriptures. For example their stance on Birthday celebrations. Those two accounts regarding Pharoah and Herod didn't come with the background of whether birthday celebrations is good or bad or the background of those celebrating. They just first cook their own doctrine about it and then make people read their own context about it.

IyfeNamikaze:
He can only do that with gullible and ignorant people, not with me. He just quotes verses without understanding what that verse is talking about and its context.

Those are the kind of people he looks for, so that he can end up posting their quotes as some kind of trophy.

He is so delirious 😂! Using appeal to people (Argumentum ad populum) to prove Truth is so basic🤕!