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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey:
Gabrielshow24:
Exactly, you are right because you have the TRUTH not because of population! The TRUTH always speaks for itself. It doesn't need a population appeal.
If you see how they use this scriptures to buttress why their religious organization alone is the true religion ehn. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

All their study materials they ensure that it features one way or the other as means to separate themselves from other Christian denominations and their practices grin cheesy grin

That verse says don't follow the crowd for evil ends. Jehovah's witnesses turn it to anything that has a lot of crowd following has an evil end grin cheesy cheesy cheesy but when we read the scripture the other way you can follow two or three person too for bad end. That people are many and doing a thing don't make it bad or evil all the time.

Armed to the teeth robbers or dare devil suicide bombers are not a crowd. They most of the time are less than ten. Yet they cause havoc that even a crowd won't perpetrate.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 11:15am On Apr 12, 2025
achorladey:
That's why when some hail them, I smh.grin cheesy cheesy Jehovah's witnesses can give you the kind of face they want you to see. It is what they are being trained to do week in week out. All those religious publications are not just scriptural stuff. They are blended with different kind of scenarios people out there will seek and how they are expected to perform grin cheesy grin grin grin

They are very good at manipulating content and context of scriptures. For example their stance on Birthday celebrations. Those two accounts regarding Pharoah and Herod didn't come with the background of whether birthday celebrations is good or bad or the background of those celebrating. They just first cook their own doctrine about it and then make people read their own context about it. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
that's so brazen 😂😂!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:18am On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
This should be the last time I'm going to reply to your ignorance.
I have given you enough evidence so go and practice whatever pleases you God's people are OK with our religion.

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
Thanks for your time! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey:
Gabrielshow24:
that's so brazen 😂😂!
They are masters at carrying out such abuse regarding the scriptures. Are they not the same people that said some are declared righteous as sons of God and others are declared righteous as friends. Today only 144,000 are Jesus brothers while billions can only be his friends cheesy grin grin grin

Ask them to give you a Bible verse that says only 144,000 are declared sons of God through Jesus ransom sacrifice, they start to shoe horn their cooked doctrines into the Bible cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:35am On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses will never arrest anyone for speaking against us just as true disciples of Christ who believe that it's normal for critics to speak against us even lie against us just as Jesus has told us they will do! Matthew 5:11-12smiley
55 likes still counting. smiley

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics


I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
90 likes still counting.

What God has blessed no man can curse! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:48am On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
55 likes still counting. smiley



90 likes still counting.

What God has blessed no man can curse! smiley
With all these validation madness and insanities peddling brains calls another moniker bad person because I counter his validation as mostly based on whitewashed appearance people are made to see cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 12:00pm On Apr 12, 2025
achorladey:
That's why when some hail them, I smh.grin cheesy cheesy Jehovah's witnesses can give you the kind of face they want you to see. It is what they are being trained to do week in week out. All those religious publications are not just scriptural stuff. They are blended with different kind of scenarios people out there will seek and how they are expected to perform grin cheesy grin grin grin

They are very good at manipulating content and context of scriptures. For example their stance on Birthday celebrations. Those two accounts regarding Pharoah and Herod didn't come with the background of whether birthday celebrations is good or bad or the background of those celebrating. They just first cook their own doctrine about it and then make people read their own context about it. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Sometimes when I read those publications I wonder whether these people have ever read the bible or just going by vibes. undecided and outlandish doctrines. Most times I read it just for the laughs.

The way they twist and interpret the bible, even the most simplest and straightforward passages can be really hilarious. As in their founding father Charles Taze Russell believe that Christ second coming happened in 1874 grin
And you want me to take your doctrine serious? grin
Anyway I still have fond memories of their [b]my book of bible story[b]
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 12:04pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
Sometimes when I read those publications I wonder whether these people have ever read the bible or just going by vibes. undecided and outlandish doctrines. Most times I read it just for the laughs.

The way they twist and interpret the bible, even the most simplest and straightforward passages can be really hilarious. As in their founding father Charles Taze Russell believe that Christ second coming happened in 1874 grin
And you want me to take your doctrine serious? grin
Anyway I still have fond memories of their [b]my book of bible story[b]
What can I do here but loooool!

To me you strike the main part of the delusion that keeps recycling itself in that religious organization which is God chose a religious organization that came into the scene in late 1800 peddling all sorts of lies about the second coming of Jesus Christ as the only religious organization anyone on earth must be a member of to gain salvation cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 12:08pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
We trained Kumuyi but he wanted to make money that's why he left JWs so if it's not the original it can never work like the original.

Jehovah's Witnesses has been since 1870s Kumuyi started around 1970s so we be him Papa!
For HardMirror to peer into once again. How MaxInDHouse a liar and manipulator operate in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses cheesy grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 12:13pm On Apr 12, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Those are the kind of people he looks for, so that he can end up posting their quotes as some kind of trophy.

He is so delirious 😂! Using appeal to people (Argumentum ad populum) to prove Truth is so basic🤕!
Exactly, but who's going to tell him that popularity doesn't imply truth and that you will need evidence, scriptural evidence to back up such opinions or doctrines?

When you check his argument you will see that he lacks critical thinking and the ability to comprehend what he's reading. He only quote one line of a verse and claim that it means something completely different from what that verse or entire chapter is talking about.

He can succeed in deceiving the ignorant ones, and we have them in abundance so congrats to him,
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:24pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
He can succeed in deceiving the ignorant ones, and we have them in abundance so congrats to him,
At least our fine works have successfully DECEIVED APOSTOSIS grin through the FRUIT Jesus talk about {Matthew 7:16-18} and many are of the opinion that he is saying the truth:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 12:48pm On Apr 12, 2025
achorladey:
What can I do here but loooool!

To me you strike the main part of the delusion that keeps recycling itself in that religious organization which is God chose a religious organization that came into the scene in late 1800 peddling all sorts of lies about the second coming of Jesus Christ as the only religious organization anyone on earth must be a member of to gain salvation cheesy grin grin grin
It gets more hilarious the more you dive into it. Russell and his JW believe in the concept of restitution, that all humankind since Adam would be resurrected to earth and given the opportunity to eternal life on earth.

The fact that they believe that they're the only Christian sect through which one would attain salvation truly speaks to the high level delusion going on there. I used to be a bit more diplomatic when I engage them in a debate but these days I just outright rebuke them and call them out in their ignorance.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 1:02pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
At least our fine works have successfully DECEIVED APOSTOSIS grin through the FRUIT Jesus talk about {Matthew 7:16-18} and many are of the opinion that he is saying the truth:
I'm talking about your fake doctrines not how you conduct yourself while delivering them
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 1:47pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
It gets more hilarious the more you dive into it. Russell and his JW believe in the concept of restitution, that all humankind since Adam would be resurrected to earth and given the opportunity to eternal life on earth.

The fact that they believe that they're the only Christian sect through which one would attain salvation truly speaks to the high level delusion going on there. I used to be a bit more diplomatic when I engage them in a debate but these days I just outright rebuke them and call them out in their ignorance.
And they hate it when they are rejected or exposed for what they really are.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 1:49pm On Apr 12, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Two wrongs can't make a right. You must belong to a local assembly to be on track for the heavenly race. Being a member of a local assembly is not a ticket to heaven but you must be part of one to stand the chance of making heaven. This is on the assumption that you are already born again.

The scripture gave us an instruction not to forsake the gathering together of the saints in Hebrews 10:25. And it says that those who violate this instruction are committing wilful sin that could cost you your salvation - Hebrews 10:26-31.

Please, go back to church and just serve him with your heart.
Tales by moonlight. We shall see who's gonna be judged that day . I'm not a church goer. But I know the damn rules
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 1:50pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
I'm talking about your fake doctrines not how you conduct yourself while delivering them
Their ways on Nairaland already show and tell us about their conduct they can be and are wolves on platforms like this while sheep when they knock at our doors cheesy grin grin

Obviously they are expected to act nice and properly when on another man's property. I wonder how it will be if no laws guide trespassing into the properties of others. cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 1:52pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Nah so Pharisees tok sey Jesus dey use Jazz {Matthew 12:24} so try to get proof that you can show the whole world not saying what you can't prove.
If Jehovah's Witnesses use black magic at least one should have been caught nah àbí police no sabi their work again?

Nah pastors and alfas we dey see for social media sey them catch nobody don catch Jehovah's Witness once o! 1Thessalonians 5:21 smiley
You are such a dumb skill.

You didn't ask the right question.

I never said they used it on people.

Does your law know anything about black magic ? Does the court follows the ruling over black magic ?

Make your findings before you talk back

They know their selves. I know what I'm saying. Are you a witness ? If yes, that means you are still blind. Ask your leaders to open your eyes. They do have a power they control which is not known to everyone. Do you even know where your gospel evolve from ?

Tiny brain.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:03pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
I'm talking about your fake doctrines not how you conduct yourself while delivering them
JEHOVAH!

You called something FAKE yet it yielded positive results!

So according to you:
"a tree is bad but it is bears good fruit"

You must be wiser than Jesus who said:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. Matthew 7:16-17

A group of few men gathered millions of people from different countries around the world and after training them they are of good conduct yet you say what they taught them is WRONG?

Ọmọ you need deliverance o! wink
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:07pm On Apr 12, 2025
Dhon11:
You are such a dumb skill.
You didn't ask the right question.
I never said they used it on people.
Does your law know anything about black magic ? Does the court follows the ruling over black magic ?
Make your findings before you talk back
They know their selves. I know what I'm saying. Are you a witness ? If yes, that means you are still blind. Ask your leaders to open your eyes. They do have a power they control which is not known to everyone. Do you even know where your gospel evolve from ?
Tiny brain.
Thank you jàre.

Their gospel is from evil source but they are the one and only group doing the right thing.

You sabi no bi small. cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 4:34pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
JEHOVAH!

You called something FAKE yet it yielded positive results!

So according to you:
"a tree is bad but it is bears good fruit"

You must be wiser than Jesus who said:

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. Matthew 7:16-17

A group of few men gathered millions of people from different countries around the world and after training them they are of good conduct yet you say what they taught them is WRONG?

Ọmọ you need deliverance o! wink
I don't think you understand what that verse is talking about.
Your case would be like that of the people who do things in public so that they would be praised by people.
Matthew chapter 6 verse 1.
Make certain you do not perform your religious duties in public so that people will see what you do. If you do these things publicly, you will not have any rewards from your father in heaven".

And also the doctrines that you follow does not bear good fruit rather it produces wrong interpretation of the word of God and may lead people astray.
There are a lot of wrong teachings in your doctrine which are what people are pointing out and you people publicly conduct yourselves in a way that seemed civil and good in other to propagate those false teachings and Jesus has this to say about that behaviour

"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness."

Matthew 7: 21-23.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m):
IyfeNamikaze:
I don't think you understand what that verse is talking about.
Your case would be like that of the people who do things in public so that they would be praised by people.
So throughout the world only Jehovah's Witnesses have been trained to pretend with fine conduct, shey?

How come their pretext has worked out so perfectly that no other comes closer in conduct and transparency when talking about monetary matters?

Ọmọ no matter the epistle you type can discard what Jesus said:

"a bad tree cannot bear good fruit" Matthew 7:17

That's the ultimate truth! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 4:45pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse: they are of good conduct yet you say what they taught them is WRONG?
This has been our bone of contention against you! You can't put the cart before the horse, it never works!

That's what those men did! They taught you lots, whole lot of crap, but emphasized you behave as doves! Which is ironic in itself!

You can't see it now because you are blind, you have eyes and you can't see! You have ears but you can't hear!

At least, you have stopped the bullshzt of saying that you lots follow first century christians! 🤨
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 4:49pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Thank you jàre.

Their gospel is from evil source but they are the one and only group doing the right thing.

You sabi no bi small. cheesy
Who be this ? Why you dey jump fence. I no dey there ooo cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:55pm On Apr 12, 2025
Dhon11:
Who be this ? Why you dey jump fence. I no dey there ooo cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
You sabi jàre no mind me! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:23pm On Apr 12, 2025
achorladey:
And they hate it when they are rejected or exposed for what they really are.
Theirs is a false doctrine that was derived from Arianism. It was because of their fake doctrines that the early church fathers had to convene the council of Niceae to decide the true Nature of Christ and to begin the collation of the scriptures into a single book (Bible).

You can read about them here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arianism#:~:text=Arian%20theology%20holds%20that%20Jesus,began%20to%20exist%20outside%20time.

JW are propagators of fake and unscriptural doctrines.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:28pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So throughout the world only Jehovah's Witnesses have been trained to pretend with fine conduct, shey?

How come their pretext has worked out so perfectly that no other comes closer in conduct and transparency when talking about monetary matters?

Ọmọ no matter the epistle you type can discard what Jesus said:

"a bad tree cannot bear good fruit" Matthew 7:17

That's the ultimate truth! smiley
Yes a bad three can not bare fruit and your doctrine is of a bad fruit and it can't bare the fruit of salvation. That's what we're talking about here.
JW is a product of Arianism which preaches a very fake and wrong doctrine . That verse you quoted is actually a warning against your type of doctrine.

You can see that the only thing you focus on is how people see you in public rather than how wrong your doctrine is. This further proves what we're talking about concerning the JW
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 5:41pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
Yes a bad three can not bare fruit and your doctrine is of a bad fruit and it can't bare the fruit of salvation. That's what we're talking about here.
JW is a product of Arianism which preaches a very fake and wrong doctrine . That verse you quoted is actually a warning against your type of doctrine.

You can see that the only thing you focus on is how people see you in public rather than how wrong your doctrine is. This further proves what we're talking about concerning the JW
Absolutely, my brother! He seems indifferent to whether his claims hold any truth; his primary concern lies in appealing to his fans. It’s reminiscent of a model who seeks validation through provocative means, disregarding the consequences of going unclad. Just as celebrities often resort to outrageous stunts to capture attention, he prioritizes popularity over logical coherence.
In a world where sensationalism often trumps substance, it’s disheartening to see someone so willing to sacrifice integrity for fleeting applause. Ultimately, it’s a shallow pursuit that leaves little room for genuine discourse.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 5:49pm On Apr 12, 2025
Dhon11:
You are such a dumb skill.

You didn't ask the right question.

I never said they used it on people.

Does your law know anything about black magic ? Does the court follows the ruling over black magic ?

Make your findings before you talk back

They know their selves. I know what I'm saying. Are you a witness ? If yes, that means you are still blind. Ask your leaders to open your eyes. They do have a power they control which is not known to everyone. Do you even know where your gospel evolve from ?

Tiny brain.
Looool! That guy loves drawing attention to himself and marketing his religious denominations called Jehovah's Witnesses. Earlier on this thread someone called him salesman of Jehovah's Witnesses
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 5:51pm On Apr 12, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Absolutely, my brother! He seems indifferent to whether his claims hold any truth; his primary concern lies in appealing to his fans. It’s reminiscent of a model who seeks validation through provocative means, disregarding the consequences of going unclad. Just as celebrities often resort to outrageous stunts to capture attention, he prioritizes popularity over logical coherence.
In a world where sensationalism often trumps substance, it’s disheartening to see someone so willing to sacrifice integrity for fleeting applause. Ultimately, it’s a shallow pursuit that leaves little room for genuine discourse.
When this thread started someone referred to him as salesman of Jehovah's Witnesses. I wonder how is that a conduct to identify with about a religious denomination cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 5:54pm On Apr 12, 2025
achorladey:
When this thread started someone referred to him as salesman of Jehovah's Witnesses. I wonder how is that a conduct to identify with about a religious denomination cheesy grin cheesy
😂😂😂Simple, concise and clear!

I have given him a lot of names but this one is just top-notch!😁. it encompasses all his narratives 🤧. Kudus 🥂 to the IP owner🤭.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 6:03pm On Apr 12, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂Simple, concise and clear!

I have given him a lot of names but this one is just top-notch!😁. it encompasses all his narratives 🤧. Kudus 🥂 to the IP owner🤭.
Solid evidence below.....

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 6:08pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Thank you jàre.

Their gospel is from evil source but they are the one and only group doing the right thing.

You sabi no bi small. cheesy
The bold are concoctions in your madness and insanities peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
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