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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 6:16pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
I don't think you understand what that verse is talking about.
Your case would be like that of the people who do things in public so that they would be praised by people.
Matthew chapter 6 verse 1.
Make certain you do not perform your religious duties in public so that people will see what you do. If you do these things publicly, you will not have any rewards from your father in heaven".

And also the doctrines that you follow does not bear good fruit rather it produces wrong interpretation of the word of God and may lead people astray.
There are a lot of wrong teachings in your doctrine which are what people are pointing out and you people publicly conduct yourselves in a way that seemed civil and good in other to propagate those false teachings and Jesus has this to say about that behaviour

"Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness."

Matthew 7: 21-23.
Max thinks their religious organization have monopoly on usage of these scriptures on others grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 6:19pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So throughout the world only Jehovah's Witnesses have been trained to pretend with fine conduct, shey?

How come their pretext has worked out so perfectly that no other comes closer in conduct and transparency when talking about monetary matters?

Ọmọ no matter the epistle you type can discard what Jesus said:

"a bad tree cannot bear good fruit" Matthew 7:17

That's the ultimate truth! smiley
Did I just see transparency in conduct and monetary matters grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

The same religious organization dragged to court and royal commission all over the world regarding how poor they are regarding child abuse cases in their midst or a religious organization that is members hardly knows all of their sources of income grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 6:49pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
Yes a bad three can not bare fruit and your doctrine is of a bad fruit and it can't bare the fruit of salvation. That's what we're talking about here.
JW is a product of Arianism which preaches a very fake and wrong doctrine . That verse you quoted is actually a warning against your type of doctrine.

You can see that the only thing you focus on is how people see you in public rather than how wrong your doctrine is. This further proves what we're talking about concerning the JW
One of their former Governing Body member that was eventually forced out through every means they can conjure said......

In similar fashion, Witnesses when defending their organization often place great emphasis on what amounts to appearance more than substance, on claim as opposed to reality, perhaps on intent as compared to actual result.
The man sabi dem well well grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:02pm On Apr 12, 2025
achorladey:
The bold are concoctions in your madness and insanities peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Read this:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
Please mention another group! smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:06pm On Apr 12, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
Yes a bad three can not bare fruit.
Don't change what Jesus said nah.

He said "a bad three can't bear good fruit" {Matthew 7:16-18} not that it doesn't bear fruit o rather it bears rotten fruit.
That's what the OP is saying while only Jehovah's Witnesses (good tree) bears the good fruit:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:12pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Don't change what Jesus said nah.

He said "a bad three can't bear good fruit" {Matthew 7:16-18} not that it doesn't bear fruit o rather it bears rotten fruit.
That's what the OP is saying while only Jehovah's Witnesses (good tree) bears the good fruit:


cheesy
The reference you used is not even enough to end the discussion on page 1 not to talk of page 2. You to keep regurgitating it to make it fly. You were to abandon the thread while at page 2 here you Page 10 still regurgitating that your sanctimonious identity cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:14pm On Apr 12, 2025
achorladey:
The reference you used is not even enough to end the discussion on page 1
Check what followers are saying silently with 92 likes! wink
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:14pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Don't change what Jesus said nah.

He said "a bad three can't bear good fruit" {Matthew 7:16-18} not that it doesn't bear fruit o rather it bears rotten fruit.
That's what the OP is saying while only Jehovah's Witnesses (good tree) bears the good fruit:


cheesy
Madness and insanities peddling brains want to lie and manipulate OP words cheesy grin grin grin

That's what the OP is saying while only Jehovah's Witnesses (good tree) bears the good fruit:
Fraud, no wonder another person said the following regarding that same response......

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:16pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Check what followers are saying silently with likes! wink
Now it is likes and what they say cheesy grin grin grin

Your madness and insanities peddling brains will now readily follow what the crowd is saying since it dance to your madness and insanities peddling brains cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m):
APOSTOSIS just put all enemies of truth to shame with this single post! smiley

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told
.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 10:24pm On Apr 12, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
APOSTOSIS just put all enemies of truth to shame with this single post! smiley
While all of the above get summarised as sanctimonious showing cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:14am On Apr 13, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Absolutely, my brother! He seems indifferent to whether his claims hold any truth; his primary concern lies in appealing to his fans. It’s reminiscent of a model who seeks validation through provocative means, disregarding the consequences of going unclad. Just as celebrities often resort to outrageous stunts to capture attention, he prioritizes popularity over logical coherence.
In a world where sensationalism often trumps substance, it’s disheartening to see someone so willing to sacrifice integrity for fleeting applause. Ultimately, it’s a shallow pursuit that leaves little room for genuine discourse.
Yeah, truth and authenticity is never their strong point, they only focus on appearance and public perception. That's why they shy away from genuine discussion or debate, you can see that the only thing he does is quote one verse line, give a concocted interpretation of that verse - which reveals how fundamentally lacking they are in the understanding of the scriptures - and then refuses to elaborate but will keep repeating himself over and over again even when you dismantle his "argument". They believe that a lie said a thousand times will eventually become truth.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:26am On Apr 13, 2025
achorladey:
One of their former Governing Body member that was eventually forced out through every means they can conjure said......



The man sabi dem well well grin cheesy cheesy
The man is spot on about what they really are.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 5:30am On Apr 13, 2025
achorladey:
Max thinks their religious organization have monopoly on usage of these scriptures on others grin cheesy cheesy
Lol... He go jam trailer for my hand today.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:26am On Apr 13, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
The man is spot on about what they really are.
There is no reason to be ashamed of your church unless you are not sure of what you have.
The OP has said a lot against the churches of Christendom and not of you could confidently say his church is not like that until i mentioned the name of my own church and voila!
Another commentator said:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told
.
Is this a plan to praise Jehovah's Witnesses? NO!
That's just the truth that no hater can refute.
Can you name your own church and see if something good will also be said about it? smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 7:30am On Apr 13, 2025
Dhon11:
Tales by moonlight. We shall see who's gonna be judged that day . I'm not a church goer. But I know the damn rules
Are you born again? It is the starting point.

John 3:3-7
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:35am On Apr 13, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
Lol... He go jam trailer for my hand today.
You supposed to know by now that what you are fighting is greater than the world otherwise how come you can't walk away after saying:

IyfeNamikaze:
This should be the last time I'm going to reply to your ignorance.
Well if you think this is all about joining people you don't know to speak against a group for no tangible reason remember God's word found @ Exodus 23:1-2

Your salvation depends on what you will do with that verse and this:

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 9:44am On Apr 13, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Are you born again? It is the starting point.

John 3:3-7
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN, HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN
Go and preach in oja oba. Or sabo. Stop wasting your md on here. Today is Sunday
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 9:48am On Apr 13, 2025
achorladey:
Looool! That guy loves drawing attention to himself and marketing his religious denominations called Jehovah's Witnesses. Earlier on this thread someone called him salesman of Jehovah's Witnesses
He's surely a sales man. They have this hard skull. They wouldn't listen. They always want to talk. I remember many years ago. There is this woman and this girl that usually disturb me at home. After few weeks. I discovered that the girl is a twin. They are so pretty shocked. I had to put a tag on each of them. It took the woman two months before realizing that I've gone rounds on them. She had to stop coming to my house. They thought they had seen a converter. They never know I'm a capacitor cheesy grin grin

Their ladies are the worst pussies ever. If you ever knw a JV girl. Abeg enter her without permission and whatever your eyes see. U're on ur own.

I knw them well. More than they knw theirselves
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 11:02am On Apr 13, 2025
Dhon11:
Go and preach in oja oba. Or sabo. Stop wasting your md on here. Today is Sunday
I am permitted to preach everywhere and on any forum. To play light on the subject of salvation. If you reject the free gift of salvation, you go to hell fire after which you will be cast into the Lake of fire on the final judgment day.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 11:21am On Apr 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
APOSTOSIS just put all enemies of truth to shame with this single post! smiley
If it is by followers then Catholicism will be paramount 🤔but of course you hate them and imply they are not christians 🤨. Ok, the next group on the list—based on numbers— will be the protestants included within this are Baptists, Lutherans, Anglicans, Adventists to name a few, yet you don't count their numbers as a factor of truth🤨. You utterly reject them and postulate/assert🤔 they are going to hell.

The next group🤔 will the orthodox churches—Eastern and Oriental orthodox. Still you reject all these and do not count their "numbers" as a basis for Truth 🧐.

Do you see where I am going with this? 🤨
Using your own vain doctrines, I am not moved by the numbers! I am moved by the coherence of your doctrines.

If you like call the entire population of the witnesses to come like this comment—let them even crash nairaland's architecture —I will still not be moved.

When your doctrines become coherent. Let me know🧐 until then I am forced to equate your Cult in the same league as Islam!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 11:24am On Apr 13, 2025
Dhon11:
He's surely a sales man. They have this hard skull. They wouldn't listen. They always want to talk. I remember many years ago. There is this woman and this girl that usually disturb me at home. After few weeks. I discovered that the girl is a twin. They are so pretty shocked. I had to put a tag on each of them. It took the woman two months before realizing that I've gone rounds on them. She had to stop coming to my house. They thought they had seen a converter. They never know I'm a capacitor cheesy grin grin

Their ladies are the worst pussies ever. If you ever knw a JV girl. Abeg enter her without permission and whatever your eyes see. U're on ur own.

I knw them well. More than they knw theirselves
Capacitor baba😅!
So how long have you been storing divine charge😁? But one day, one day that charge will flow into a current 🙃!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 2:46pm On Apr 13, 2025
Dhon11:
He's surely a sales man. They have this hard skull. They wouldn't listen. They always want to talk. I remember many years ago. There is this woman and this girl that usually disturb me at home. After few weeks. I discovered that the girl is a twin. They are so pretty shocked. I had to put a tag on each of them. It took the woman two months before realizing that I've gone rounds on them. She had to stop coming to my house. They thought they had seen a converter. They never know I'm a capacitor cheesy grin grin

Their ladies are the worst pussies ever. If you ever knw a JV girl. Abeg enter her without permission and whatever your eyes see. U're on ur own.

I knw them well. More than they knw theirselves
While still a member I do hold the sisters in there in high esteem, I never knew so many parole dey go on. It was towards my exit from the organization, at school, during National service I got so many experience while sitting down on my own jejely they will come and confess. Na to just smh my head.

He's surely a sales man. They have this hard skull. They wouldn't listen. They always want to talk.
All valid points. You can see MaxInDHouse always want to talk to express the lies and manipulations filled into that his hard skull. He hardly listen to others because they feel they are the custodian of all things scriptures in the right interpretation.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 2:49pm On Apr 13, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
Lol... He go jam trailer for my hand today.
Loool!
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 2:51pm On Apr 13, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
The man is spot on about what they really are.
The man rose to the highest position Jehovah's witnesses can aspire. His eyes must have seen a lot of hypocrisy, wolves in sheep clothing stuff
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 5:42pm On Apr 13, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😅What can you expect from someone who has reduced his understanding to the whims of his jelly bean god? This outright clown once had the audacity to suggest that his jelly bean deity was foolish! But don’t be fooled by the mention of Jehovah; he’s really talking about the Jehovah of Chicago! 😅
This kid you always stoop so low to showcase your IBERIBEISM to the world.

How could you be so daft to blaspheme God's name and connect such with a native American word!


Tueh!!!

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 5:47pm On Apr 13, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
Yes a bad three can not bare fruit and your doctrine is of a bad fruit and it can't bare the fruit of salvation. That's what we're talking about here.
JW is a product of Arianism which preaches a very fake and wrong doctrine . That verse you quoted is actually a warning against your type of doctrine.

You can see that the only thing you focus on is how people see you in public rather than how wrong your doctrine is. This further proves what we're talking about concerning the JW

Oga,Did Jesus Christ you claim to follow, worship 3 deities?
How many beings did God's people worship in the old testament?

Matthew 4:10 & John 4:24, Did Jesus Christ change that standard?

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 5:53pm On Apr 13, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Absolutely, my brother! He seems indifferent to whether his claims hold any truth; his primary concern lies in appealing to his fans. It’s reminiscent of a model who seeks validation through provocative means, disregarding the consequences of going unclad. Just as celebrities often resort to outrageous stunts to capture attention, he prioritizes popularity over logical coherence.
In a world where sensationalism often trumps substance, it’s disheartening to see someone so willing to sacrifice integrity for fleeting applause. Ultimately, it’s a shallow pursuit that leaves little room for genuine discourse.
Story story grin grin grin
You are so desperate to console yourself .
This kid when would you grow up?
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 5:59pm On Apr 13, 2025
Dhon11:
You are such a dumb skill.

You didn't ask the right question.

I never said they used it on people.

Does your law know anything about black magic ? Does the court follows the ruling over black magic ?

Make your findings before you talk back

They know their selves. I know what I'm saying. Are you a witness ? If yes, that means you are still blind. Ask your leaders to open your eyes. They do have a power they control which is not known to everyone. Do you even know where your gospel evolve from ?

Tiny brain.
JW's belief revolves around, John 3:16, Matthew 4:10 & John 4:24 which 3 deities devotees label as "Arianism".

Besides, Matthew 24:14 , for which JW's everywhere are known for.

Oga,Is this gospel foreign to your own Bible?
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 6:06pm On Apr 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Thank you jàre.

Their gospel is from evil source but they are the one and only group doing the right thing.

You sabi no bi small. cheesy
You dey mind 3 deities WAILING WAILERS?
John 3:16, Matthew 4:10, John 4:24 & John 14:24,28 wey Jesus Christ teach dem give am label say nah "Arianism" & reject am.

Yet dem say nah dem follow Jesus their 1st or 2nd deity
grin grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 6:23pm On Apr 13, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
which one is jahovah of Chicago again? This is my first time hearing this one o
The name of God for him Bible na the kid dey blaspheme & he think say na joke.

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 6:30pm On Apr 13, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
It's an abridged version of the real Jehovah, created by 8 men. 1.They took Jehovah's transcendence and turned it to non-transcendence.
2. They also created doctrinal caricatures of his Son, Jesus, by giving him a different identity—[/b]In the words of paul, they preached a different Jehovah/Jesus from the one preached in the bible! That's why their own Jehovah got the name, Jehovah of Chicago 👀!
[b]1. You think you can IMPORT your IBERIBEISM into the holy scriptures?

This kid,You can't.

2.
Your Trinitarian mentors have given the evidence from your Bible that Jesus Christ is an angel of Yahweh his Father, God Almighty.
Please continue WAILING.
grin grin

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