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Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Sand2022(op):
During the Memorial of Jehovah's witnesses, only those who say they are among the 144,000 partake of the emblems, bread and wine. This is based on the scriptural understanding of the leadership.

Jehovah's witnesses believe that only these 144,000 are in the New covenant. This conclusion has a dangerous implications for millions of Jehovah's witnesses who are meant to believe that they're not part of the 144,000 anointed ones. Why so?

Let's see what Jehovah says about the New covenant.

Jeremiah 30
31“Look! The days are coming,” declares Jehovah, “when I will make with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah a new covenant.32It will not be like the covenant that I made with their forefathers on the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, ‘my covenant that they broke, although I was their true master,’ declares Jehovah.”33“For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares Jehovah. “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I will write it. And I will become their God, and they will become my people.”34“And they will no longer teach each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know Jehovah!’ for they will all know me, from the least to the greatest of them,” declares Jehovah. “For I will forgive their error, and I will no longer remember their sin.”

1. The New covenant made the old law covenant obsolete. Those in the New covenant now take the title God's people. This means that you need to be part that covenant to become among God's people after the covenant was made.

The problem for Jehovah's witnesses position is; if you're not part of this New covenant, which covenant are you in? God doesn't have another Covenant for you besides the New Covenant.

Many JWs are not Jews by birth, so they can't even claim to be in the Old Covenant. God's people are now known by their being part of the new covenant, but many JWs are not even part of this covenant. This is concerning friends. This is not a joke.

Many of these other sheepers are obviously in no scriptural covenant relationship with God. What the organization applies to them from Greek scriptures are only by extension, because all in the Greek scriptures about the congregation are for those in the new covenant, not to those who are covenantless.

2. Jehovah stated that it is on the basis of this New covenant that he will forgive His people's sins. For JWs, it is believed that Christ ransom sacrifice is not applied to the other sheep yet. And that is in agreement with scripture because you will need to be in the new covenant to have that sin forgiven. Paul made that point thus:

Heb 9
14how much more will the blood of the Christ, who through an everlasting spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works so that we may render sacred service to the living God?15That is why he is a mediator of a new covenant, in order that because a death has occurred for their release by ransom from the transgressions under the former covenant, those who have been called may receive the promise of the everlasting inheritance.

Since these JWs are not in the new covenant, they also don't partake of the emblem, this is dangerous. That is clearly rejecting God's free gift for you to come into a covenant relationship with Him.

This is my advise, and I have done this since I woke up. Have a memorial bread made for you and your family at home, get a wine. If you can't make a bread, buy crackas biscuit. After the memorial at the hall, come home, pray over the emblem and eat. That way, there won't be any holier-than-thou view from the congregation at you.

If you're a JW and start eating the emblem at the Kingdom hall, it can be embarrassing. Many just feel you're extraordinary as if you're more special than they are when in reality all of them should be eating the emblem.

As a matter of fact, if you don't eat the emblem, you're not even remembering his death. You have to keep doing this, partaking of the bread and wine, in remeberance of him. (1cor 11:23-26)

Don't feel I came to pick a fight with your organization. The memorial of Christ is very important in Christianity, the new covenant is the chief reason Jesus died.

Tag: Aemmyjah, achorladey, Jozzy4, MaxInDHouse, MightySparrow, NowYouKnow, TemmyT002, johnw47, Boomark, Emusan, Dtruthspeaker, Gabrielshow24, rottennaija
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m):
https://www.nairaland.com/8396255/jw-030-sane-humans-remain

Please your attention will be needed in the above thread!

As for Jehovah's Witnesses here is truth unchallenged:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told.
smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Gabrielshow24: 4:54pm On Apr 12, 2025
They truly come as dumb as a rock🤦🏾‍♂️. They didn't educate this one that argumentum ad populum is not a guarantee for truth!

Foolishness is bliss 👀
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by immaculatesense(m): 5:57pm On Apr 12, 2025
I am on my way to the memorial. I was invited by a group of wonderful friends. I had attended during my youth service some couple of years ago. I wish to have a wonderful time. Though I won't be eating the meal because I need to abide by their rules.

Thanks.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Emusan(m): 8:14pm On Apr 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
I am on my way to the memorial. I was invited by a group of wonderful friends. I had attended during my youth service some couple of years ago. I wish to have a wonderful time. Though I won't be eating the meal because I need to abide by their rules.

Thanks.
What is their rules?

You should abide by Bible rules, don't you think so?
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Emusan(m): 8:20pm On Apr 12, 2025
I saw a video of invitation posted by a JWs and from the video the speaker said "Millions of people around the world will be at the memorial and guess what, you can be among them"-(not a direct quote)

Then I ask, what is the essence of being in that memorial service and not PARTICIPATING in the emblem?

In the night Jesus made that statement, "Do this in the remembrance of me" - were only few people participated in the emblem or everyone present?
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by immaculatesense(m): 9:04pm On Apr 12, 2025
Emusan:
What is their rules?

You should abide by Bible rules, don't you think so?
I understand you.
But since I obliged to attend and I was not forced and this is not even my first time. I know that they do not eat the emblem in that assembly. It will be insensitive for me to just pick the emblem and eat when it is passed before me.
That was what I meant by that statement.

Thanks.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:26pm On Apr 12, 2025
God has a new creation
His spirit-anointed sons.
He has bought them from mankind
His approval they’ve won.

(CHORUS)
A special possession.
They’re a people for your name.
They love you. They praise you.
As one they declare abroad your fame.


They are a holy nation.
Who handle the truth aright.
God has called them from darkness.
To his wonderful light.

(CHORUS)
A special possession.
They’re a people for your name.
They love you. They praise you.
As one they declare abroad your fame.


Faithful to their commission.
They gather the other sheep.
To the Lamb they are loyal.
His commandments they keep.

(CHORUS)
A special possession
They’re a people for your name.
They love you. They praise you.
As one they declare abroad your fame.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Emusan(m): 10:51pm On Apr 12, 2025
immaculatesense:
I understand you.
But since I obliged to attend and I was not forced and this is not even my first time. I know that they do not eat the emblem in that assembly. It will be insensitive for me to just pick the emblem and eat when it is passed before me.
That was what I meant by that statement.

Thanks.
Even though you claimed you understood my point but you didn't address it.

Now, on to the @color part.

You're invited and OFFER the emblem but you decided not to partake based on a set rules by the organizer.

Was that food a sacrifice offered to an IDOLS? No!

This is a SUPPOSED FOOD that is about The Lord.

This is what the scripture says about emblem sharing: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ?  Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf."; 1 Corin 10:16 - NWT

If you read downward, you can see how Apostle Paul used that to address the food offered to an IDOLS and how a VISITOR should handle it.

Are you supposed to avoid a food blessed in the name of Jesus Christ when the food was not offered to an IDOLS?

Is the food offered in Jesus name not suppose to be one of the best food without restriction for believers to partake?

If the scripture even allows believers to eat the food offered to an IDOLS based on one's conscience, how much more will the food offered in Jesus name?
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MrPresident1: 11:08pm On Apr 12, 2025
There are no virgins in Jehovah witness of American
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by immaculatesense(m): 7:28am On Apr 13, 2025
Emusan:
Even though you claimed you understood my point but you didn't address it.

Now, on to the @color part.

You're invited and OFFER the emblem but you decided not to partake based on a set rules by the organizer.

Was that food a sacrifice offered to an IDOLS? No!

This is a SUPPOSED FOOD that is about The Lord.

This is what the scripture says about emblem sharing: "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a sharing in the blood of the Christ? The loaf that we break, is it not a sharing in the body of the Christ?  Because there is one loaf, we, although many, are one body, for we are all partaking of that one loaf."; 1 Corin 10:16 - NWT

If you read downward, you can see how Apostle Paul used that to address the food offered to an IDOLS and how a VISITOR should handle it.

Are you supposed to avoid a food blessed in the name of Jesus Christ when the food was not offered to an IDOLS?

Is the food offered in Jesus name not suppose to be one of the best food without restriction for believers to partake?

If the scripture even allows believers to eat the food offered to an IDOLS based on one's conscience, how much more will the food offered in Jesus name?
Sir
I understand your thoughts quite clear.
I eat the emblem in my own church and I fully partake in it.
I was invited and I know their rules. I could have said no, I wasn't forced. When I got there, they quoted and quoted some scriptures out of context on why people should not eat it.
I knew it was out of context but I am a man of peace. I was not called to disrupt their service but just as a guest.
Not eating it IN THEIR ASSEMBLY does not have any consequence since I may still eat it in my church later this month.

Thanks.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:47am On Apr 13, 2025
immaculatesense:
Sir
I understand your thoughts quite clear.
I eat the emblem in my own church and I fully partake in it.
Not eating it IN THEIR ASSEMBLY does not have any consequence since I may still eat it in my church later this month.
Thanks.
Excellent idea!
The only difference is Jehovah's Witnesses will never ever attend service with any other religion!

"Be careful not to be entrapped after they have been annihilated from before you. Do not ask about their gods, saying, ‘How were these nations accustomed to serve their gods? I too will do the same." Deuteronomy 12:30

So if you are still in doubt whether you're worshiping the same God with us well we are not if you are not worshiping in our gathering and practicing what we practice you are not a worshiper of our God.

However i respect you opinion you were invited and you honored the invitation it shows how responsive you are to things going on around you! smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Emusan(m): 10:32am On Apr 13, 2025
immaculatesense:
Sir
I understand your thoughts quite clear.
You keep claiming you understood my point yet you haven't addressed it.

I eat the emblem in my own church and I fully partake in it.
GOOD which you believe it's in line with the scripture.

Can you eat emblem in your church if it's not in line with the scripture?

I was invited and I know their rules. I could have said no, I wasn't forced.
Of course, I know but what is the importance of granting such invitation when you know the scripture you so dear and hold as God's word is being disrupted.

When I got there, they quoted and quoted some scriptures out of context on why people should not eat it.
And you feel comfortable in such gathering when you know this is all about SALVATION and eternity.

Do you think Jesus will be in a place where God's word is being applied out of context?

I knew it was out of context but I am a man of peace.
A man of peace won't be in a gathering of mockers and be at peace with him/herself.

For you to be comfortable in such gathering when you know things pertaining to eternity is being disrupted is called for a concern.

I was not called to disrupt their service but just as a guest.
What is the purpose of being in that service that has to be about SHARING CHRIST BODY AND BLOOD as I posted in the above verse without be a partaker of it?

Not eating it IN THEIR ASSEMBLY does not have any consequence since I may still eat it in my church later this month.
So what is the purpose of you being in that service?

Was the service not about the EMBLEM?

Thanks.
You're welcome
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by immaculatesense(m): 11:02am On Apr 13, 2025
Emusan:
You keep claiming you understood my point yet you haven't addressed it.



GOOD which you believe it's in line with the scripture.

Can you eat emblem in your church if it's not in line with the scripture?



Of course, I know but what is the importance of granting such invitation when you know the scripture you so dear and hold as God's word is being disrupted.



And you feel comfortable in such gathering when you know this is all about SALVATION and eternity.

Do you think Jesus will be in a place where God's word is being applied out of context?



A man of peace won't be in a gathering of mockers and be at peace with him/herself.

For you to be comfortable in such gathering when you know things pertaining to eternity is being disrupted is called for a concern.



What is the purpose of being in that service that has to be about SHARING CHRIST BODY AND BLOOD as I posted in the above verse without be a partaker of it?



So what is the purpose of you being in that service?

Was the service not about the EMBLEM?



You're welcome
Sir.
You have filled everywhere with questions.
Okay sir. No vex.

Thanks.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Emusan(m): 6:18pm On Apr 13, 2025
immaculatesense:
Sir.
You have filled everywhere with questions.
Okay sir. No vex.

Thanks.
Did you see any sign of anger in my post?

It's good as you couldn't address any of the questions.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by immaculatesense(m): 6:31pm On Apr 13, 2025
Emusan:
Did you see any sign of anger in my post?

It's good as you couldn't address any of the questions.
Sir.
There are no reasons to answer the questions after I have respected your observations.

Thanks
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Emusan(m): 6:38pm On Apr 13, 2025
immaculatesense:
Sir.
There are no reasons to answer the questions after I have respected your observations.

Thanks
I can't see where I said YOU MUST ANSWER MY QUESTIONS.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:52am On Apr 14, 2025
immaculatesense:
I am on my way to the memorial. I was invited by a group of wonderful friends. I had attended during my youth service some couple of years ago. I wish to have a wonderful time. Though I won't be eating the meal because I need to abide by their rules.
Thanks.
The OP knows the consequences of eating the emblem he is just the son of the serpent who instigated Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit but himself never ate it. Adam and Eve died in the process while the serpent lives on.
If he's truly convinced that he should take the emblem please ask him if they will prevent him from taking it.
Because he knows it's his death warrant he will sign instantly if he dare eats it! 1Corinthians 11:30 smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16am On Apr 14, 2025
Jehovah's angels aren't concerned with whatever goes on in false religions that's why whatever they practice during their worship has no consequences but in the midst of His Holy Ones you dare not go against the rules.
Whoever takes the emblem unworthily will get sick if he's just confused about it but whoever takes it thinking it's a joke will die! 1Corinthans 11:30

There was this case of a brother who was given the privilege to deliver the talk on the memorial day, this man has one female Bible student that he sleeps with (adultery) constantly despite having his own wife and both of them continue in the sin for years. Note that it's only an elder among JWs that can deliver the talk on the day of memorial so this man is an elder.

All the time he's been committing adultery with this young lady nothing happened both of them were doing it with no consequences until he was given the talk, according to the report we got from that lady this man invited her to an hotel as usual but she objected reminding him of what he himself taught her about how Holy the day of memorial is instead of correcting himself he told her it's nothing and he's having the feelings so he took her to the hotel and both of them committed adultery again on the day of memorial.

They both had intercourse and from there they both head to the venue and after the songs and prayer he mount the platform to deliver the talk he hasn't spoken for five minutes when he fell down and died immediately then the young lady started shouting "and i warned him o! but i warned him o!"

So it's through this young lady we got to know that it's Jehovah's angel that killed him on the platform that day.

Ever since then the young lady started living a new life after seeing what happened to the son of pedition.

So if anyone feels like eating the emblem we won't stop you after all you know it's consequences remember it was both the elder and the lady who were guilty of adultery despite knowing it's a sin but why did Jehovah's angel kill only the elder?

Well the answer is simple: he is responsible for poisoning the heart of a growing faith in the heart of that lady:

But whoever stumbles one of these little ones who have faith in me, it would be better for him to have hung around his neck a millstone that is turned by a donkey and to be sunk in the open sea. Matthew 18:6

Whoever knows the rules and teaches it won't be spared for breaking it. smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by immaculatesense(m): 7:33am On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The OP knows the consequences of eating the emblem he is just the son of the serpent who instigated Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit but himself never ate it. Adam and Eve died in the process while the serpent lives on.
If he's truly convinced that he should take the emblem please ask him if they will prevent him from taking it.
Because he knows it's his death warrant he will sign instantly if he dare eats it! 1Corinthians 11:30 smiley
Max
You know I won't support tantrums.
We all have different views about issues. But we can all be respectful in passing our view and addressing others' views.

Thanks.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MightySparrow: 8:14am On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The OP knows the consequences of eating the emblem he is just the son of the serpent who instigated Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit but himself never ate it. Adam and Eve died in the process while the serpent lives on.
If he's truly convinced that he should take the emblem please ask him if they will prevent him from taking it.
Because he knows it's his death warrant he will sign instantly if he dare eats it! 1Corinthians 11:30 smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MightySparrow: 8:16am On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The OP knows the consequences of eating the emblem he is just the son of the serpent who instigated Adam and Eve to eat the forbidden fruit but himself never ate it. Adam and Eve died in the process while the serpent lives on.
If he's truly convinced that he should take the emblem please ask him if they will prevent him from taking it.
Because he knows it's his death warrant he will sign instantly if he dare eats it! 1Corinthians 11:30 smiley
Delusion.
I eat the emblem every time over thirty years now, I get stronger. Maybe, Jehovah's Witnesses' emblem has poison in it. The blood of Jesus cleanses, never stains.

Delusion pro max.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:21am On Apr 14, 2025
immaculatesense:
Max
You know I won't support tantrums.
We all have different views about issues. But we can all be respectful in passing our view and addressing others' views. Thanks.
Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.
smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:25am On Apr 14, 2025
MightySparrow:
Delusion.
I eat the emblem every time over thirty years now, I get stronger. Maybe, Jehovah's Witnesses' emblem has poison in it. The blood of Jesus cleanses, never stains. Delusion pro max.
Traditionalists and Muslims continued to sacrifice animals till today claiming they are doing it for God so i respect your religion even though you don't respect mine, one thing i won't do is interfaith.
Your God is not my God please worship yours while i worship mine there is no need disturbing yourself over my faith it's like a parallel that can never ever meet with yours! smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MightySparrow: 8:29am On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Traditionalists and Muslims continued to sacrifice animals till today claiming they are doing it for God so i respect your religion even though you don't respect mine, one thing i won't do is interfaith.
Your God is not my God please worship yours while i worship mine there is no need disturbing yourself over my faith it's like a parallel that can never ever meet with yours! smiley
So, you are afraid to take the memorial emblem for the fear of death?
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:32am On Apr 14, 2025
MightySparrow:
So, you are afraid to take the memorial emblem for the fear of death?
I am not going to heaven only those who has been chosen for heavenly hope eats it so wetin concern monkey with butter? undecided
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MightySparrow: 10:25am On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I am not going to heaven only those who has been chosen for heavenly hope eats it so wetin concern monkey with butter? undecided
I am going to heaven, so I am taking the emblem. Our destinations are not the same. It is your own choice not to go to heaven. I heard Steven Lett or David Spain giving the conditions and qualifications for going to heaven.gringrin. If all the members of GB will be going to heaven, what stops you?
What if you become a member of the GB in years to come? Never, black man like you cannot be a member!gringringrin
Hahahaha!!!!! Apartheid in the Kingdom of their God!
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:47am On Apr 14, 2025
MightySparrow:
I am going to heaven, so I am taking the emblem. Our destinations are not the same.
Case closed! smiley
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Sand2022(op): 1:09pm On Apr 14, 2025
Emusan:
I saw a video of invitation posted by a JWs and from the video the speaker said "Millions of people around the world will be at the memorial and guess what, you can be among them"-(not a direct quote)

Then I ask, what is the essence of being in that memorial service and not PARTICIPATING in the emblem?

In the night Jesus made that statement, "Do this in the remembrance of me" - were only few people participated in the emblem or everyone present?
It is obvious that everyone there participated.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Sand2022(op): 1:13pm On Apr 14, 2025
immaculatesense:
I understand you.
But since I obliged to attend and I was not forced and this is not even my first time. I know that they do not eat the emblem in that assembly. It will be insensitive for me to just pick the emblem and eat when it is passed before me.
That was what I meant by that statement.

Thanks.
I don't think you understand what the JWs mean. They didn't say you shouldn't partake. They said only those going to heaven will partake. Now if you believe you have that hope, you should partake. Partaking it won't be an insult to the emblem. Those there that didn't partake do not believe they are going to heaven. If you share that same belief, then it was good you didn't partake, but if you feel you're going to heaven, you should partake. Or at least have your own emblem to eat at home.if not, you actually didn't remember the death of Christ as he commanded.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Sand2022(op): 1:16pm On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
God has a new creation
His spirit-anointed sons.
He has bought them from mankind
His approval they’ve won.

(CHORUS)
A special possession.
They’re a people for your name.
They love you. They praise you.
As one they declare abroad your fame.


They are a holy nation.
Who handle the truth aright.
God has called them from darkness.
To his wonderful light.

(CHORUS)
A special possession.
They’re a people for your name.
They love you. They praise you.
As one they declare abroad your fame.


Faithful to their commission.
They gather the other sheep.
To the Lamb they are loyal.
His commandments they keep.

(CHORUS)
A special possession
They’re a people for your name.
They love you. They praise you.
As one they declare abroad your fame.
Fine lyrics, but it lacks important truth. The other sheep are among the anointed. Jesus wants you to be among them, but your leadership says no.
Re: Jehovah's Witness Memorial, See Why You Should Eat The Emblem by Sand2022(op): 1:17pm On Apr 14, 2025
MrPresident1:
There are no virgins in Jehovah witness of American
Hahahahahahaha. Obviously, there are no spiritual virgins there.
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