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Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 8:11pm On Apr 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
That one is also following them like mumu looking for JWs to insult!
Madness and insanities peddling brains you must have got enough dosage to quench lies and manipulations packed into your mumu peddling brains cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 8:35pm On Apr 13, 2025
Janosky:
Oga, make I ask you:
Is it okay for John 3:16, Matthew 4:10 & John 4:24 to "programme " you?
Dear Brother John

Its not a must for you to write me back.
If i were you , I would just continue this in another forum. I'm enjoying this moment with my fellow comrade.

Thank you
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:55pm On Apr 13, 2025
Dhon11:
Dear Brother John
Its not a must for you to write me back.
If i were you , I would just continue this in another forum. I'm enjoying this moment with my fellow comrade.
Thank you
His name is not John o! wink
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 9:57pm On Apr 13, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
His name is not John o! wink
Please tell him again until he grasps it.
grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:07pm On Apr 13, 2025
Janosky:
Please tell him again until he grasps it.
grin
He is following a crowd of faithless miscreants to speak against a group with unique faith that's recognized globally. Exodus 23:1-2
Abeg which doctrine does he know each one of these miscreants subscribe to?
All he just feel is it's OK to join them in speaking abusively of an organization with faith that's well known! Matthew 5:14-16
I just dey pity some people at times! undecided
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 10:16pm On Apr 13, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
John 3:16 states, 'For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.' This verse dismantles the flimsy allusions you have left. Let me simplify this for you, considering you’re still grappling with your critical thinking skills. I have two questions for you, and I expect a response based on this verse:
1. Who instructed God to give His Son?
This MUMU kid Gabrielshow24 forgot he told Nairaland that his own God is a messenger.

Gabrielshow24 LYING miscreant did Jesus teach you that God sent himself?
Gabrielshow24 dunce

grin grin grin
Gabrielshow24:
2. Did God act according to His own will?

Furthermore, the verse you provided does nothing to support your argument; it only highlights your lack of comprehension! You’ve limited God to a being who merely sits on a throne and is incapable of acting. What distinguishes your jelly bean god from its Islamic counterpart? 🤨

Gabrielshow24 You quoted John 3:16 nau.
Is God "incapable of acting " @ John 3:16?
Why are you so dunce ?
Gabrielshow24 wey believe Deepseek more than his own Bible.


Very dunce MUMU kid.
grin grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 10:31pm On Apr 13, 2025
Janosky:
This MUMU kid Gabrielshow24 forgot he told Nairaland that his own God is a messenger.

Gabrielshow24 LYING miscreant did Jesus teach you that God sent himself?
Gabrielshow24 dunce

grin grin grin



Gabrielshow24 You quoted John 3:16 nau.
Is God "incapable of acting " @ John 3:16?
Why are you so dunce ?
Gabrielshow24 wey believe Deepseek more than his own Bible.


Very dunce MUMU kid.
grin grin
Your strawman arguments are as endless as your foolishness! Truly top-notch.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 10:40pm On Apr 13, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
please kindly tell all who told God to plant a garden 🤨?

"And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed."

There you have it, everyone. One is a pathological liar who can’t stop lying, while the other can’t answer a simple question 🤕—a question that shouldn’t pose a challenge for even a beginner in Sunday school! 🤕 For over a month, the Elder known as Janosky has been unable to address such a basic question. 🤨
MUMU kid Gabrielshow24 misquote the holy scriptures.to deceive himself.
God rested after HE created Eve.
You are very confused.
grin grin
Genesis 2:1-3 , God rested from creation on 6th day.
Garden of Eden created on 3rd day when God created vegetation and plants.
God placed Adam inside the garden before He created Eve.

John chapter 5:17 , my Father is working until now " references Matthew 9:37-38 , pray that my Father the Lord of the harvest sends out more workers.


. Stop deceiving yourself.

Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Janosky: 10:46pm On Apr 13, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Your strawman arguments are as endless as your foolishness! Truly top-notch.
Gabrielshow24 LYING miscreant said:
"You’ve limited God to a being who merely sits on a throne and is incapable of acting"

John 3:16
"God sent his only begotten son."

God very capable of acting by sending his Son, Gabrielshow24 labels it as "foolishness" because I show am John 3:16.

What a faithless miscreant!
This Kiddo continue WAILING and deceiving yourself.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 11:41pm On Apr 13, 2025
Janosky:
Gabrielshow24 LYING miscreant said:
"You’ve limited God to a being who merely sits on a throne and is incapable of acting"

John 3:16
"God sent his only begotten son."

God very capable of acting by sending his Son, Gabrielshow24 labels it as "foolishness" because I show am John 3:16.

What a faithless miscreant!
This Kiddo continue WAILING and deceiving yourself.
Don't be foolish. I referenced John 3:16 to demonstrate that God acts according to His own will! This is nothing but a pathetic lie. 🤨 It’s an outrageous straw man argument, completely far-fetched. Once again, everyone can see that you are filled with falsehoods! So I ask again: can your jelly bean god act on His own will?
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Gabrielshow24: 11:51pm On Apr 13, 2025
Janosky:
MUMU kid Gabrielshow24 misquote the holy scriptures.to deceive himself.
God rested after HE created Eve.
You are very confused.
grin grin
Genesis 2:1-3 , God rested from creation on 6th day.
Garden of Eden created on 3rd day when God created vegetation and plants.
God placed Adam inside the garden before He created Eve.

John chapter 5:17 , my Father is working until now " references Matthew 9:37-38 , pray that my Father the Lord of the harvest sends out more workers.


. Stop deceiving yourself.

Your response is completely off point and fails to address my question in any way. Additionally, the day the Lord created Eden does not diminish His will in making it. 🤨 Whether it was the third day or the sixth day, it does not affect His will—that's a theological issue for you to sort out.

Now, back to my question: once again, who told God to plant a garden? 🤨
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 6:52am On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
His name is not John o! wink
I'm speaking in his pastors voice.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17am On Apr 14, 2025
Dhon11:
I'm speaking in his pastors voice.
Have you ever heard of that title "Pastor" among Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 10:00am On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Have you ever heard of that title "Pastor" among Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy
So where are you when I said brother John ?? Abi u sef dey among ?

Make all of us dey go meeting together. So far no be church Dem dey go. Every every na meeting
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:46am On Apr 14, 2025
Dhon11:
So where are you when I said brother John ?? Abi u sef dey among ?
Make all of us dey go meeting together. So far no be church Dem dey go. Every every na meeting
Well continue whatever you are saying! cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:42am On Apr 14, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
His will is to give commands to his angels? 🤨

Are you serious? How can you overlook what Jesus said: 'My Father is working until now, and I am working'? 🤔 If His Father wasn’t working, He would have said, 'My Father sends others to work!'

You are a paragon of foolishness. Regarding the New Jerusalem that is coming from the Father, did He send angels to build it, or did He build it Himself?


Don’t be foolish. Once again, I ask: Can your jelly bean god act according to His own will?
Looooool
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:44am On Apr 14, 2025
Janosky:
Gabrielshow24,Because you are a kid, you choose to insult the God Almighty I worship while I have referred you consistently to the will of the God Almighty @Psalms 83:18, Psalms 103:20 & John 12:49-50.

Yet you pretend you love your Bible but you blaspheme the Author of the holy scriptures.
This boy just continue deceiving yourself.

See the werey peddling brains that call the God of others DOGHEADS and is it holy demon ghost grin grin cheesy cheesy


cc Johnw47, Janosky the hypocrite is here grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:45am On Apr 14, 2025
Dhon11:
Dear Brother John

Its not a must for you to write me back.
If i were you , I would just continue this in another forum. I'm enjoying this moment with my fellow comrade.

Thank you
You know them they don't like to be silenced. You know you said like talking while others remain mute grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Ken4Christ(op): 11:47am On Apr 14, 2025
Dhon11:
You see what I'm saying. You guys know the begining and the end of the world. Na only JV knows how the angels look like. How heaven looks like. How garden of haden looks like. Even hell. Meanwhile no one has been there. Una even get mind do story book about am. Well thanks all the way. We all have that insight. Kudos to you . We plenty wey go swim inside the lake. Make u cha no drown cheesy grin grin
Jonah was there. Jesus was there. The rich man who ignored Lazarus plight is there. And countless hundreds in our generations have been there, came back to life and told their story but doubting Thomas like you won't believe until you get there.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:48am On Apr 14, 2025
Dhon11:
So where are you when I said brother John ?? Abi u sef dey among ?

Make all of us dey go meeting together. So far no be church Dem dey go. Every every na meeting
See as you lost them completely in their need to always talk talk. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 11:49am On Apr 14, 2025
Dhon11:
So where are you when I said brother John ?? Abi u sef dey among ?

Make all of us dey go meeting together. So far no be church Dem dey go. Every every na meeting
Loool cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 1:40pm On Apr 14, 2025
Janosky:

Oga,Did Jesus Christ you claim to follow, worship 3 deities?
How many beings did God's people worship in the old testament?

Matthew 4:10 & John 4:24, Did Jesus Christ change that standard?

John 10: 27-30

27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[c]; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.”

God and Jesus are one and the same .

"How many beings did God's people worship in the old testament?"
Mathew 22; 41-46

41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them, 42 “What do you think about the Messiah? Whose son is he?”

“The son of David,” they replied.

43 He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,

44 “‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.”’[e]

45 If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?” 46 No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by johnw47: 1:47pm On Apr 14, 2025
achorladey:
See the werey peddling brains that call the God of others DOGHEADS and is it holy demon ghost grin grin cheesy cheesy


cc Johnw47, Janosky the hypocrite is here grin cheesy cheesy
yes, lost fraud jw janosky calls the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible: " the 3 dogheads"
and he calls the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost"

they will never change, but why would they, they are lost
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by IyfeNamikaze(m): 2:03pm On Apr 14, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You supposed to know by now that what you are fighting is greater than the world otherwise how come you can't walk away after saying:



Well if you think this is all about joining people you don't know to speak against a group for no tangible reason remember God's word found @ Exodus 23:1-2

Your salvation depends on what you will do with that verse and this:

Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 1Thessalonians 5:21
We're speaking against the false doctrines that is being propagated by your group.
It is false and misleading and most be called out to save others from falling into it.

Mathew 7;15
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.”

Exodus 23;1-2 is talking about bearing false witness against the innocent. Again I don't think you understand the context of these verses that you quote.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 2:23pm On Apr 14, 2025
Ken4Christ:
Jonah was there. Jesus was there. The rich man who ignored Lazarus plight is there. And countless hundreds in our generations have been there, came back to life and told their story but doubting Thomas like you won't believe until you get there.
Ride on preacher.


If I ask u few questions some questions sef. I'm sure you wouldn't be close to it. Leme not just cast spell on others.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 2:26pm On Apr 14, 2025
achorladey:
You know them they don't like to be silenced. You know you said like talking while others remain mute grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
They believed they know it all. Because it's their ancestors that wrote the Bible. They are the director and the producer cheesy cheesy cheesy. No one can be %100 right all the time. We learn everyday and that has made me know so many hidden figures in the Bible. I might not be a church goer or a Bible scholar. But I will definitely lost you
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Dhon11: 2:27pm On Apr 14, 2025
achorladey:
See as you lost them completely in their need to always talk talk. grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Na so. U got it...They didn't pay attention. Them too like talk . grin
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:43pm On Apr 14, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
We're speaking against the false doctrines that is being propagated by your group.
It is false and misleading and most be called out to save others from falling into it.
Mathew 7;15
Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves.”
Why do you cut off where you are exposed?

By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

Here is obvious fruit that JWs produced:

APOPTOSIS:
Jehovah's Witness is operating at a different level.
They have been steadfast, resolute and committed.
I hold no grudge against them. They downplay commercialization of churches.
They entertain persecutions a lot, in fact more than several Christian bodies.
Seems in their church everyone is at same level irrespective of your degree, financial acquaintance and contacts.
And it seems they obey the Bible the most:
-They hardly disturb neighbors during prayers.
-They frown at intimidation and flamboyant lifestyles.
-They ensure financial gifts are covered and never displeased at whatever they recieve.
-Their members would make good politicians but they frown at politics
I respect them. I judge based on actions and not what I'm told
.
Can you point to any other group having something better? smiley

IyfeNamikaze:
Exodus 23;1-2 is talking about bearing false witness against the innocent. Again I don't think you understand the context of these verses that you quote.
You joined people whose faith you can't explain (crowd) to speak against those who are INNOCENTLY doing what they know is right judging them that their faith is wrong yet you can't point out any other faith you know that's performing better than them! Exodus 23:1-2 smiley
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by Sand2022: 4:20pm On Apr 14, 2025
Ken4Christ:
It's worrisome to see common trends amongst most GOS or Church Founders especially in Nigeria.

1. They abuse their powers by arresting and putting in prison anyone who speaks against them. What then is the difference between them and politicians?

2. They oppress younger ministers they perceive carry unusual grace. And when such ministers try to leave to establish their own ministries, they frustrate them.

I could go on and on.

These evil trends should stop. Otherwise, they will be cast away on judgement day. God is no respecter of persons.
It is worrisome. GOs, we can remember are humans as well. So we need not get discouraged or stop following Christ because of their human imperfections.

It is possible that it doesn't happen only in Nigeria.
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 4:21pm On Apr 14, 2025
Dhon11:
They believed they know it all. Because it's their ancestors that wrote the Bible. They are the director and the producer cheesy cheesy cheesy. No one can be %100 right all the time. We learn everyday and that has made me know so many hidden figures in the Bible. I might not be a church goer or a Bible scholar. But I will definitely lost you
You know they do say the Bible is an organization book not a property of an individual cheesy grin grin

Indeed we learn everyday and no one on earth is given the custody of all things Bible
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 4:23pm On Apr 14, 2025
johnw47:
yes, lost fraud jw janosky calls the Christians Father and Son and Holy Spirit of the Bible: " the 3 dogheads"
and he calls the Holy Spirit: "the ole demon ghost"

they will never change, but why would they, they are lost
I don't know why Janosky aka JaNosense is lamenting that his Jehovah get called Jelly beans
Re: Why Are Most Nigeria Gos Or Church Founders Like This? by achorladey: 4:27pm On Apr 14, 2025
Sand2022:
It is worrisome. GOs, we can remember are humans as well. So we need not get discouraged or stop following Christ because of their human imperfections.

It is possible that it doesn't happen only in Nigeria.
It definitely does not happen only in Nigeria. As long as this religious organization maintain the way they are set up internal conflict and external conflict will persist.

Are you aware this internal and external conflict is equally a valid point I threw to Jehovah’s witnesses elders that they were unable to respond to. It is within those conflict the flock of Christ get killed or suffer for long.
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