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Evil men on the pulpit

Xannadu:
By now he should have realized what he preached was wrong and come out to correct it.

You don't really understand these pastors then to say he should have realized what he preached was wrong and come out to correct it. When the fact is that he knows that what he was preaching is false but how will he get more money from his congregation when most of them are their to look for money too, like connection for business, employees who there oga force to attend by force and a church where them and their wealth will be worshipped and admired by others, somewhere to wear their new clothes and shoes to, and brag about how everyone in their church is rich. So both the deceiver pastor and the deceived church members know exactly what they are doing and can never correct anything instead he'll double down on it.

ItsYourMiracle:
Jesus came into the world poor, so we can learn 'Poverty is not your friend'.

Besides, His being born in a manger is because they were on the run from Herod

You need to see a doctor as soon as possible please.

Xannadu:
By now he should have realized what he preached was wrong and come out to correct it.

lmao . Come out ke ? He will not . The message was like EFCC certificate on CBex wall. Priming the victims for a scam . So for Jesus to like you and make you rich , you must give so it can be given unto you . Tithe scam .

I can't believe that you till now there is no comment from @Righteousness in this topic.

When pride comes into the pulpit, the preacher begins to feel they are equal with God and can talk anyhow....

Dear pastor, beware of pride.



1 Timothy 3
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¹ This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.
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⁶ Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil.

RichBoy247:
Ibiyeomi is a known thief nah, and his followers are fools. It is the same fraudster that Kemi Olunloyo said he has been sleeping with Nollywood prostitutes?

Source pls,

Bobloco:
Did God really call this so-called man of God?

I mean, were they genuinely called by God to be a man of God, or did they just take that title on themselves?

God did not call anybody. God, if he exists, does not call anybody. Anybody can call themselves and claim that God called them. Sadly, enough gullible people believe the contrary for this to be a thriving business in Nigeria. That's why a silly pastor like this can preach an obvious lie and many will still swallow it hook, line and sinker. It's a cult, a cult of personality, and nothing anyone says changes the minds of these simpletons.

SmellingAnus:
As much as I don't even agree with Pastor Ibiyeomie on some of his teachings, but it would have been better if these Pastors bring out scriptures to counter the Pastor and show where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that some of us that are ignorant can learn... Let me leave it for senior Pastors of Nairaland, please show us scriptures where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that ignorant people like me can learn...

His entire 12 disciples were so poor that they could not pay tax. Jesus had to perform a miracle to raise tax money

The man that said what Adam ate in the garden was the tithe

SmellingAnus:
As much as I don't even agree with Pastor Ibiyeomie on some of his teachings, but it would have been better if these Pastors bring out scriptures to counter the Pastor and show where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that some of us that are ignorant can learn... Let me leave it for senior Pastors of Nairaland, please show us scriptures where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that ignorant people like me can learn...

You see, that an argument is correct by omission does not mean it's correct. Jesus's job in the Bible was not to visit as many people as possible. He likely visited no more than 5 or 6 people, but if all the people he visited were rich, it's still no indication that he wasn't more aligned with the poor than he was with the rich. This is a clear twisting of the foundation of the Bible by this prosperity preacher, because literally the whole theme of the Bible centres around how being poor is more acceptable to God than material wealth. Maybe if this supposed pastor can bring out an evidence in the Bible where a rich man went to heaven without having to give up their riches first, then it would make sense to say being materially wealthy is favoured by God or Jesus. In many parables and in other clear teachings, I think Jesus made it fairly obvious that material wealth impedes, rather than enables eventual access to God or to his kingdom. This is even an undisputable fact and it's almost comical at this stage to be arguing about it. But then, what do I know, there's no spinning these pastors won't pursue if it increases the stream of cash flow into their bank accounts.

He goofed with the "JESUS hates the poor" aspect of that sermon. I hope he summons courage to remorsefully retract that part. Poverty is not good, but mocking the poor is a no no.

Proverbs 17:5 KJV
"Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished."

helinues:
Hahahaha, see them renegading against Ibiyeomie because he's exposing the flaws in Christian religion

Some pastors would prefer their members to be continuing to be poor as long as they are getting rich

Why should jobless people be attending church Night vigils 3 times in a week? Why?

1. Christianity in essence is not a religion.
2. Christianity is perfect but Christians are not. They are growing towards perfection.
3. There are wolves in sheep clothing. Many more on the way.
4. Not all calling themselves Christian are Christians.
5. Some Christians are gullible unfortunately. They throw away common sense and are lazy with Bible studies.
6. God will purify His Church before Jesus returns especially through the Great Tribulation.

Tochi3:


..they use prosperity to deceive the gullibles..always thessme pastors from thesame guilty region of greed & liars..

He is from Rivers state, take note bigot!

SmellingAnus:
As much as I don't even agree with Pastor Ibiyeomie on some of his teachings, but it would have been better if these Pastors bring out scriptures to counter the Pastor and show where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that some of us that are ignorant can learn... Let me leave it for senior Pastors of Nairaland, please show us scriptures where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that ignorant people like me can learn...

He visited Peter's house who was not known to be rich other than being a follower of CHRIST. Nowhere in the Scriptures is Peter noted for being rich.

Matthew 8:14-15 KJV
"And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever. [15] And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them."

Now that's not the part that bothers me. The part where he said" JESUS hates the poor" is the real gaffe for me. He should be bold and apologetic enough to retract that part. That part is an affront on Scriptures.

Proverbs 17:5 KJV
"Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished."

This is the testimony of JESUS CHRIST Himself.
Matthew 11:4-5 KJV
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: [5] The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them."

The apostles also reminded Paul about the poor.
Galatians 2:10 KJV
"Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do."

I find it funny that this man called his ministry SALVATION..... It really contradict what he profess on outside.............

floss:
He’s the god of salvation ministry…

He should just change the ministry name to POSPERITY MINISTRY

mastermaestro:
He visited Peter's house who was not known to be rich other than being a follower of CHRIST. Nowhere in the Scriptures is Peter noted for being rich.

Matthew 8:14-15 KJV
"And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's mother laid, and sick of a fever. [15] And he touched her hand, and the fever left her: and she arose, and ministered unto them."

Now that's not the part that bothers me. The part where he said" JESUS hates the poor" is the real gaffe for me. He should be bold and apologetic enough to retract that part. That part is an affront on Scriptures.

Proverbs 17:5 KJV
"Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished."

This is the testimony of JESUS CHRIST Himself.
Matthew 11:4-5 KJV
"Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: [5] The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them."

The apostles also reminded Paul about the poor.
Galatians 2:10 KJV
"Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do."

Is there any evidence to show in the Bible that Peter's Mother in law was poor?

The man is just an Oyedepo-wannabe...

NuCypher:
about it. But then, what do I know, there's no spinning these pastors won't pursue if it increases the stream of cash flow into their bank accounts.

Truth is many pastors are guilty of scheming to trying to get more money from members and it's really annoying and some persons are becoming wiser...

PHIPEX:
His entire 12 disciples were so poor that they could not pay tax. Jesus had to perform a miracle to raise tax money

There is no evidence that says they were so poor that they couldn't pay tax... Show me the scripture

SmellingAnus:
As much as I don't even agree with Pastor Ibiyeomie on some of his teachings, but it would have been better if these Pastors bring out scriptures to counter the Pastor and show where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that some of us that are ignorant can learn... Let me leave it for senior Pastors of Nairaland, please show us scriptures where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that ignorant people like me can learn...

Christianity doesn't operate on scripture

[quote author=Babaibeji2020 post=135047642][/quote]you have missed the point.. you still haven't provided Bible evidence that Jesus visited the poor... I will love to learn so that I can attack the Pastorconstructively and not out of ignorance.

Mom007:
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you missed the point... The Pastor said Jesus never visited the poor, so show me a scripture that proves the Pastor lied so that ignorant people like me can know and attack the Pastor like others are doing.

immaculatesense:
It is not everything that scriptural texts are available for. Some things don't just make sense.
Let me ask you. Is there any scriptural texts where Jesus visited AN AFRICAN/BLACK MAN? Does that mean Jesus hated Africans/Blacks because there is not biblical text? Some things are just coming sense.
If Jesus did not associate with the poor. Tell me how many of his disciples were rich. Didn't Jesus live with them and dine with them or visited them in their homes?

Thanks.

In other words you agree with the Pastor that Jesus never visited the poor... Okay noted...

ThothHermes:
He visited Peter's mother-in-law.

show me from the Bible that says Peter's Mother in law was poor

kennyz247:
Pastor wey dey take ogogoro before coming to stage,why won't he yern nonsense..

At times,i asked myself, which speak through ds so called pastors self..

From his eyes you can clearly see that he drinks before preaching.

KennethOkonkwo:
Christianity doesn't operate on scripture

Wow... What does Christianity operate on please teach me

FuckYeyeMods:
I dont understand how Christianity was able to survive till this day..
The way Islam is Projected in a bad light, if same applied to Christianity, it won't survive it

That's the fact.
It thrives on demonization of Islam.

Moreze:
I dislike this man called ibiyomie and his teaching. He talks out of context and talks anyhow he likes. Never see someone who called himself a pastor,who do not think before saying things. I pity his gullible followers, all the preach is all about wealth ,no more salvation...

Is it because he is saying what you dont want to hear now

SmellingAnus:
you missed the point... The Pastor said Jesus never visited the poor, so show me a scripture that proves the Pastor lied so that ignorant people like me can know and attack the Pastor like others are doing.

No, You missed the point. Stop doing this pastor said this, or that pastors said that. Search it out yourself. It's the same bible you are supposed to be reading that they are supposed to be reading as well. It was a normal thing for Jesus to be with the poor. He was always with them. It was nothing remarkable. His whole ministry was first and foremost, to the Jews, a poor and downtrodden people because at that time, they were slaves in roman territory after having being carted away when Jerusalem fell to Jerusalem enemies. Read your Bible so nobody can bobo you. The fact that He dined with a few rich was only remarkable and worth mentioning because it was totally out of character for HIM.

SmellingAnus:
As much as I don't even agree with Pastor Ibiyeomie on some of his teachings, but it would have been better if these Pastors bring out scriptures to counter the Pastor and show where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that some of us that are ignorant can learn... Let me leave it for senior Pastors of Nairaland, please show us scriptures where Jesus visited a poor man or woman so that ignorant people like me can learn...

Mary and Martha that he visited, they’re rich abi. What about his own family? Are they rich? How many rich people are among his twelve disciples? The first four disciples are common fishermen, yet people like you keep preaching on how Jesus hate poor people. The 5000, and 4000 people he took to the wilderness and eventually and miraculously fed, are they rich. How many rich people did Jesus even visited? Maybe you should also answer that