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Inquisitive Universe:
Good evening to you. Happy weekend. I want us to quickly discuss the proliferation of the Helio G80 and the stagnation of the budget market.

This conversation came out of a Facebook altercation I had with a confused individual earlier this evening.

So I reposted our discussion on the Redmi A5 onto several groups where it blew up and attracted a lot of people. It attracted the good, the bad and definitely the ugly.

So it made me realize that a lot of people do not realize that we have been stuck at the 250k AnTuTu level since 2020 and things haven't improved. You know it's bad when Unisoc's SoCs are starting to catch up with MediaTek in performance.

However a lot of people are still living in pre-2020 times and haven't kept up to speed with what's on board.

So as we all know, the budget performance is that space that exists just above the entry level segment but hangs just below the lower mid-range area. This area is what we call the budget segment. The processors in this area are better than entry-level SoCs but are not as good as the lower mid-range SoCs.

In essence, we could say that a budget SoC is better than entry-level SoCs like the Unisoc T603 or Helio G50 but is not as good as the MediaTek Helio G100, Dimensity 6080 or Snapdragon 4S Gen 2 etc.

Different types and generations of processors (SoCs) have existed in this budget space over the years. Most of them were usually SoCs that were demoted from the lower mid-range section due to increasing Android specifications.

I remember a time when MT6573 and MT6580 were considered budget SoCs in 2016. In 2017, the MT6737 and Helio A22 were considered budget too. In 2018, the Helio P22 and Snapdragon 625 were budget SoCs.

In 2019, MediaTek in their war on Qualcomm Snapdragon decided to play by a new set of rules and produced a new SoC from scratch to take on Qualcomm and steal the budget/lower mid-range.

They had to because the Helio P22 and P35 were already way past their prime. The result was the MediaTek Helio G70.

The Helio G70 took on all the budget and lower mid-range SoCs of its time like the Exynos 7904, Snapdragon 660, 665 and 662 and won even if it was only by slight margins.

Infinix quickly picked it up for their Note 7 phone and we couldn't sleep on Nairaland for a while. This was because their marketers celebrated a huge victory. It was as though they had just gotten a flagship. Those were simpler times lol.

The Helio G70 was so successful that MediaTek Helio G80 and G85 were quickly released in 2020 to succeed the Helio G70.

They were all identical and the only difference was that the clock speeds on the Helio G80 and G85 were slightly faster.

The Helio G80 and G85 set the standard of the budget to 250k on AnTuTu in 2020 and it has been that way ever since for the last 5 years.

In 2021, MediaTek announced the Helio G88 which was just the Helio G85 with 64MP support. After that they proceeded to release the Helio G91 which is just the G85 with 100MP support, G92 and G81 all in 2024.

These SoCs are all just different variations of the MediaTek Helio G80 with benchmark scores hovering around 250k.

However MediaTek's marketing has been so good that a large number of the general public strongly believe that these are all different processors.

I have seen people move from a G85 phone to a G92 phone and thinking that they're upgrading.

In the meantime, Unisoc who have been paying close attention have decided to replicate the same format and it's actually bringing them a little success.

The Unisoc T606, T610, T612, T615, T616, T618 and T620 which are all variations of the same template, have hit the market to quite some success.

So much so that Unisoc have decided to rename these SoCs so they can keep selling them under different names.

The aforementioned SoCs also have AnTuTu scores around 250-270k just like their MediaTek cousins.

As you can see, these semiconductor companies have bounded together with smartphone OEMs to keep fooling the general public. The general public that considers those of us who are trying to educate them as fools.

Even if it was a fairytale, you can't make this shit up at all. People are out here fighting over which 250-270k AnTuTu performance SoC is better than the other just because one's from MediaTek and the other's from Unisoc.

Really, you can't make this shit up.

So if you're going out to buy a phone between 200-300k, a video I'm working on, most phones are using either Helio G80 series SoCs or something from Unisoc around the 250k AnTuTu range of performance.

So imagine someone who bought a Redmi 9 in 2020 and wants to upgrade, only to buy a Redmi 14C in 2025 with the same processor and level of performance?

That's the much we can discuss tonight. I hope you have a very happy new week.

I have 300k ready to upgrade from my iPhone 8plus which has been serving me for years now but the problems you stated above couldn’t let me

A 2017 phone is still performing far better than 2025 infinix/realms,techno release, I tire, and the marketers wouldn’t even let me see road for nairaland.


This country is so so messed up

obinna58:
I have 300k ready to upgrade from my iPhone 8plus which has been serving me for years now but the problems you stated above couldn’t let me

A 2017 phone is still performing far better than 2025 infinix/realms,techno release, I tire, and the marketers wouldn’t even let me see road for nairaland.

This country is so so messed up

That's why Seeun and his mods drove us away from Nairaland three years ago so that marketers will have a free run around. I guess they succeeded.

I'll rather settle for an old flagship or midrange than buy these newer phones...

It's saddening to waste over 300k on a phone and get no significant upgrade over the previous

I'll rather settle for an old flagship or midrange than buy these newer phones...

It's saddening to waste over 300k on a phone and get no significant upgrade over the previous.

So which phone will you recommend? I am considering buying samsung galaxy s10+ or tecno camon 40 pro

Onyemaboy:
I'll rather settle for an old flagship or midrange than buy these newer phones...

It's saddening to waste over 300k on a phone and get no significant upgrade over the previous.

So which phone will you recommend? I am considering buying samsung galaxy s10+ or tecno camon 40 pro

How much can I get s10+

obinna58:
I have 300k ready to upgrade from my iPhone 8plus which has been serving me for years now but the problems you stated above couldn’t let me

A 2017 phone is still performing far better than 2025 infinix/realms,techno release, I tire, and the marketers wouldn’t even let me see road for nairaland.

This country is so
messed up

Even if you are upgrading, don't dump the iPhone, use it as your second phone you wound regret doing that.

Plz what is wrong with redmi note 13 pro

The Camon 40 is definitely the way to go, that phone wasn't cut short in anyway

Hongkongfukid:
How much can I get s10+

enigma0:
I'll rather settle for an old flagship or midrange than buy these newer phones...

It's saddening to waste over 300k on a phone and get no significant upgrade over the previous

Same thought here, this new phones are slower because of the minimum requirement for android 15 is much higher than the one of Android 10

atheistandproud:
Inquisitive Universe:
Good evening to you. Happy weekend. I want us to quickly discuss the proliferation of the Helio G80 and the stagnation of the budget market.
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That's the much we can discuss tonight. I hope you have a very happy new week.

Please which good phone will you suggest for a budget of 200k-300k?

Tech with a Human Touch

atheistandproud:
Inquisitive Universe:
Good evening to you. Happy weekend. I want us to quickly discuss the proliferation of the Helio G80 and the stagnation of the budget market.

This conversation came out of a Facebook altercation I had with a confused individual earlier this evening.

So I reposted our discussion on the Redmi A5 onto several groups where it blew up and attracted a lot of people. It attracted the good, the bad and definitely the ugly.

So it made me realize that a lot of people do not realize that we have been stuck at the 250k AnTuTu level since 2020 and things haven't improved. You know it's bad when Unisoc's SoCs are starting to catch up with MediaTek in performance.

However a lot of people are still living in pre-2020 times and haven't kept up to speed with what's on board.

So as we all know, the budget performance is that space that exists just above the entry level segment but hangs just below the lower mid-range area. This area is what we call the budget segment. The processors in this area are better than entry-level SoCs but are not as good as the lower mid-range SoCs.

In essence, we could say that a budget SoC is better than entry-level SoCs like the Unisoc T603 or Helio G50 but is not as good as the MediaTek Helio G100, Dimensity 6080 or Snapdragon 4S Gen 2 etc.

Different types and generations of processors (SoCs) have existed in this budget space over the years. Most of them were usually SoCs that were demoted from the lower mid-range section due to increasing Android specifications.

I remember a time when MT6573 and MT6580 were considered budget SoCs in 2016. In 2017, the MT6737 and Helio A22 were considered budget too. In 2018, the Helio P22 and Snapdragon 625 were budget SoCs.

In 2019, MediaTek in their war on Qualcomm Snapdragon decided to play by a new set of rules and produced a new SoC from scratch to take on Qualcomm and steal the budget/lower mid-range.

They had to because the Helio P22 and P35 were already way past their prime. The result was the MediaTek Helio G70.

The Helio G70 took on all the budget and lower mid-range SoCs of its time like the Exynos 7904, Snapdragon 660, 665 and 662 and won even if it was only by slight margins.

Infinix quickly picked it up for their Note 7 phone and we couldn't sleep on Nairaland for a while. This was because their marketers celebrated a huge victory. It was as though they had just gotten a flagship. Those were simpler times lol.

The Helio G70 was so successful that MediaTek Helio G80 and G85 were quickly released in 2020 to succeed the Helio G70.

They were all identical and the only difference was that the clock speeds on the Helio G80 and G85 were slightly faster.

The Helio G80 and G85 set the standard of the budget to 250k on AnTuTu in 2020 and it has been that way ever since for the last 5 years.

In 2021, MediaTek announced the Helio G88 which was just the Helio G85 with 64MP support. After that they proceeded to release the Helio G91 which is just the G85 with 100MP support, G92 and G81 all in 2024.

These SoCs are all just different variations of the MediaTek Helio G80 with benchmark scores hovering around 250k.

However MediaTek's marketing has been so good that a large number of the general public strongly believe that these are all different processors.

I have seen people move from a G85 phone to a G92 phone and thinking that they're upgrading.

In the meantime, Unisoc who have been paying close attention have decided to replicate the same format and it's actually bringing them a little success.

The Unisoc T606, T610, T612, T615, T616, T618 and T620 which are all variations of the same template, have hit the market to quite some success.

So much so that Unisoc have decided to rename these SoCs so they can keep selling them under different names.

The aforementioned SoCs also have AnTuTu scores around 250-270k just like their MediaTek cousins.

As you can see, these semiconductor companies have bounded together with smartphone OEMs to keep fooling the general public. The general public that considers those of us who are trying to educate them as fools.

Even if it was a fairytale, you can't make this shit up at all. People are out here fighting over which 250-270k AnTuTu performance SoC is better than the other just because one's from MediaTek and the other's from Unisoc.

Really, you can't make this shit up.

So if you're going out to buy a phone between 200-300k, a video I'm working on, most phones are using either Helio G80 series SoCs or something from Unisoc around the 250k AnTuTu range of performance.

So imagine someone who bought a Redmi 9 in 2020 and wants to upgrade, only to buy a Redmi 14C in 2025 with the same processor and level of performance?

That's the much we can discuss tonight. I hope you have a very happy new week.

omotayo9177:
Please which good phone will you suggest for a budget of 200k-300k?

What's your current phone?

atheistandproud:
What's your current phone?

Redmi Note 8 pro

This is why,it is better to invest in older flagship than buying all this new Chinese phones. From experience, when you purchase any Chinese brand of phone, especially the most popular 3 in Nigeria, after a year, the phone start hanging.

Rebadging of mid level chipset or processors by phone manufacturers on new phone products only to be sold times two the price, is a fallout of our wrecked economy and currency.
It is an unfortunate situation

Hongkongfukid:
How much can I get s10+

I have one available for 295k, 128gb variant

omotayo9177:
Please which good phone will you suggest for a budget of 200k-300k?

I have some very good Xiaomi phones, foreign used available for this budget ranging from Mi to Poco to Redmi. Regards 😊

atheistandproud:
What's your current phone?

Please between iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 plus,which is better?

masterfactor:
This is why,it is better to invest in older flagship than buying all this new Chinese phones. From experience, when you purchase any Chinese brand of phone, especially the most popular 3 in Nigeria, after a year, the phone start hanging.

This statement is not true...

Rewrite: From experience, when you buy entry-level to lower mid-range phones from any Chinese brand, especially the top three most popular ones in Nigeria, they usually start hanging after about a year.

Thazard:
Please between iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 plus,which is better?

Really?

atheistandproud:
Really?

Yes, I'm serious .
Did my finding on GsmArena and I noticed 14 has a greater Antutu score than 14 plus.


I used to think 14 plus is better.
So as an expert in tech,I want you to clarify things for me.

Thazard:
Yes, I'm serious .
Did my finding on GsmArena and I noticed 14 has a greater Antutu score than 14 plus.


I used to think 14 plus is better.
So as an expert in tech,I want you to clarify things for me.

Well you're right. The iPhone 14 is faster than the iPhone 14 plus and after some investigation, the only thing I can say is that you may attribute to the smaller display on the iPhone 14. This could mean less work for the GPU. Other than that, I got nothing

Onyemaboy:
I'll rather settle for an old flagship or midrange than buy these newer phones...

It's saddening to waste over 300k on a phone and get no significant upgrade over the previous.

So which phone will you recommend? I am considering buying samsung galaxy s10+ or tecno camon 40 pro

there's close in price but camon 40 pro will last longer

Onyemaboy:
I'll rather settle for an old flagship or midrange than buy these newer phones...

It's saddening to waste over 300k on a phone and get no significant upgrade over the previous.

So which phone will you recommend? I am considering buying samsung galaxy s10+ or tecno camon 40 pro

go for the 40 pro