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This fight hot, slightly in favour of Ben by one round after 9 rounds

Benn up by 2 with 2 rounds left

Benn up by 1 with 1 round left

The last 6 rounds have been mad

Chris showing heart of a lion in the last 2 rounds

This fight deserves a rematch

Best fight I've seen in years

Both men with the heart of a lion protecting their fathers legacies

Chris pushed himself to the brink of death in the last two rounds, throwing hundreds of punches

I'm calling a draw

They must give us Part 2

All 3 Judges scored 116-112 for Eubank

Them done pay these Judges

The fight na clear draw

Ibime:
Nigel Benn shouldn't have married short woman, see as he height his son to pieces

Just like Patrick Kluivert who was 6 ft 3, married short woman and produced Justin Kluivert at 5ft 7

Wetin short people do you?

BlueRayDick:
https://www.nairaland.com/8409662/access-bank-staff-secretly-filmed

Omo!

A whole lot of these victims would have their nude videos online without even knowing . This guy has spoilt people’s lives without their being aware 🤦‍♂️

Police supposed prosecute the guy sha

Na this guy Dey record people

Ibime:
Nigel Benn shouldn't have married short woman, see as he height his son to pieces

Just like Patrick Kluivert who was 6 ft 3, married short woman and produced Justin Kluivert at 5ft 7

If they were another eggs there won't be a Connor or a Justin.

That would leave the way open to any possibility including having transgenders 😂

Ibime:
That account was already dead and $72m to $0 is not a story for anyone who keeps abreast of the Nations numbers.

Jonathan met that account at $50 billion and ran it to $4bln immediately by sharing it to the Governors so they can support his elevation to Presidency. That is the original sin and the death of the concept of ECA. Buharis Government never earned above the benchmark price of $70 till the end of its tenure by which time ECA had been killed.

Nigerians have problems with numbers generally and the lack of anger over the treatment of the ECA under Goodluck Jonathan is a perfect example. It's the same reason we could no longer afford the fuel subsidy because Jonathan had used the ECA to bribe his way into power. So we entered larger and larger debts to pay for subsidy that we comfortably paid from the ECA before.

The way u despise Jonathan ehn, one would think Jonathan was a failure and Buhari was the Messiah . Sometimes u make it seem like Jonathan failed on all fronts but Buhari was an “okay “ president .

I don’t like Jonathan and won’t hold brief for him , but the way u demonize him and use strong words like “he used ECA to bribe himself into power “ Dey make me fear who no fear u o. Anybody wey u no like that person go hear am! 🥵

Below was what Jonathan answered when he was asked about the ECA depletion under his tenure.

Answering questions on an interview programme with Bloomberg TV, Mr. Jonathan blamed the state governors for regularly pressurizing the federal government to draw from the reserve fund to augment revenue allocations from the federation account.

“At any time the earnings (from oil) drop, the governors would insist that there is no place in our laws that actually say that the federal government should keep the reserve,” Mr. Jonathan said. “They always insisted that a part of it (excess crude revenue account) should be brought.”

He said there had always been misconception about the excess crude account, pointing out that while a number of people felt it was a reserve fund for the rainy day, others said it was fund that could be drawn from in times of economic difficulty.

“Yes, it is also part of our own reserves. But, when I was there, I tried to make a special fund called a sovereign wealth fund, so that it would not be easy for one to take from there,” the former president said.

Asked to react to claims by the current administration that it inherited empty treasury at inception of its tenure, Mr. Jonathan said that could not be true, arguing that there was no way the administration would have inherited empty treasury and still be able to give bailout to states the way it did.

If the governors are asking him to draw from the funds to meet government’s financial obligations and indeed there is no place in Nigerian laws for the FG to keep the reserve , why then make it seem like he drew from the reserve to “bribe “ fellow politicians when he was using it to sort bills like the subsidy ?

Let’s not forget that Buhari and his co-travelers were part of those who protested against subsidy removal which would’ve freed more funds in the excess crude account o.

My point is Jonathan was a failure and Buhari was no better at all. I no just Dey like make person rightfully call Jonathan a failure and then start using halogen lamp to look for the tiniest of reasons not to label Buhari a certified failure .

BlueRayDick:
If the governors are asking him to draw from the funds to meet government’s financial obligations and indeed there is no place in Nigerian laws for the FG to keep the reserve , why then make it seem like he drew from the reserve to “bribe “ fellow politicians when he was using it to sort bills like the subsidy ?

This part of your post actually summarises how weak President Jonathan was. In my entire life, I’ve never seen a sitting president or governor succumb to pressures from their supposed subordinates to do anything, except for Jonathan. I guess this is because he wasn’t a politician at his core. It's also the main reason he failed to secure a second term in office, in addition to being a weak leader.

By the way, I’m not arguing for or against the idea that he may or may not have used the ECA money as bribes. However, the timing of the depletion of those funds and the word on the street suggest that the money was used for the purposes Ibime is alleging.

That said, I completely agree with you that Bubu was a disaster!

diggz:
This part of your post actually summarises how weak President Jonathan was. In my entire life, I’ve never seen a sitting president or governor succumb to pressures from their supposed subordinates to do anything, except for Jonathan. I guess this is because he wasn’t a politician at his core. It's also the main reason he failed to secure a second term in office, in addition to being a weak leader.

By the way, I’m not arguing for or against the idea that he may or may not have used the ECA money as bribes. However, the timing of the depletion of those funds and the word on the street suggest that the money was used for the purposes Ibime is alleging.

That said, I completely agree with you that Bubu was a disaster!

Baba , Obj was a bully of a president and till date people still knock him for some of his head strong decisions he took as president . One of those decisions was him withholding the LG funds of Lagos state despite the courts stopping him from doing same .

There’s a thin line between being strong president and actually being a dictator in a democratic setting .

What u call weak in Jonathan’s presidency was him trying to be on the right side of the law being a president from a minority tribe . Jonathan is from a minority tribe who needed to keep all the major tribes happy in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria .

I hate sounding like Jonathan’s apologist cos I don’t like the man but I fail to see how exactly those monies were for bribe when the governors who requested for them like Oshiomole , Aregbe , etc have since claimed it was the right of their people to access the fund at time Nigeria was struggling financially

BlueRayDick:
Na this guy Dey record people

same thing happened in my olf place. they caught the driver of a staff doing this. the woman was thoroughly embarrassed. in hindsight she was lucky they caught him when they did. she got a job where she got a big ass promotion as is now an industry oga. it would have been much messier having that mess as a ceo

there is a very big leak industry out there

GloriousGbola:
same thing happened in my olf place. they caught the driver of a staff doing this. the woman was thoroughly embarrassed. in hindsight she was lucky they caught him when they did. she got a job where she got a big ass promotion as is now an industry oga. it would have been much messier having that mess as a ceo

there is a very big leak industry out there

I think we have a lot of damaged people out there looking like normal regular everyday people . Nobody would’ve suspected this guy of being a pervert .

The crazy thing is that he would’ve spoilt a lot of ladies’ lives unknown to them. Some of those young contract staff may want to marry their hearthrob few years from now and their bobo will find out their nudes is online due to no fault of theirs .

Omo ! The guy supposed do jail

BlueRayDick:
Baba , Obj was a bully of a president and till date people still knock him for some of his head strong decisions he took as president . One of those decisions was him withdrawing the LG funds of Lagos state despite the courts stopping him from doing same .

There’s a thing line between being strong president and actually being a dictator in a democratic setting .

What u call weak in Jonathan’s presidency was him trying to be on the right side of the law being a president from a minority tribe . Jonathan is from a minority tribe who needed to keep all the major tribes happy in a multi ethnic country like Nigeria .

I hate sounding like Jonathan’s apologist cos I don’t like the man but I fail to see how exactly those monies were for bribe when the governors who requested for them like Oshiomole , Aregbe , etc have since claimed it was the right of their people to access the fund at time Nigeria was struggling financially

let us not try to paint gej as an anti dictator

his admin gave us orubebe, and the ekiti debacle, and they sent soldiers to harass tinubu, he freed al mustapha, he returned fayose from his rightful place in political exile, he unleashed wike.

in GEJ's defence, he was never cut out to be President so people just manipulated him.

ibime had also discussed this before - gej was running through the ECA like a drunken sailor. it is hard to advocate for responsible spending and thrift if the designated oga at the top is wasting money.

the short answer is GEJ turned the ECA from a savings fund to a spending fund and the rest is history

BlueRayDick:
I think we have a lot of damaged people out there looking like normal regular everyday people . Nobody would’ve suspected this guy of being a pervert .

The crazy thing is that he would’ve spoilt a lot of ladies’ lives unknown to them. Some of those young contract staff may want to marry their hearthrob few years from now and their bobo will find out their nudes is online due to no fault of theirs .

Omo ! The guy supposed do jail

the funny thing about managing leaks is contradictory. these people post videos every day. if you do not contact them about your video, it will get lost in the shuffle and forgotten. there is a maximum number of videos you can fit on FP] . but if you call them about your video then they have your name and can start an unending cycle of blackmail where they push your pictures/video to FP with your name and a made up story attached to it.

Omo ! The guy supposed do jail

now that the story is out, the guy will def serve time imho. AIG it shall not be well with them has been embarrassed. this was not about a soft landing for the guy, but about managing/covering up the scandal

ironically, it may have been better if this was hushed up. now all those leak video sites will be going through their recent trove to see if there are any bank employees in the videos

DissTroy:
You work hard so you kids can be comfortable, leveraging on your successes as a launchpad to have it easier in life than you did at their age. But you downplay the work ethics and strides of a son (who seems fairly normal like the rest of us) because he has his father's tree branches to hang on to.

The same lot ridiculed and trolled FFK and DJ Cuppy for not making something of the gazillion opportunities their births handed them on a platter of gold less than three weeks ago on this thread.

You can't love wealth then hate the uber rich. You can't want the best opportunities for your kids then deride kids embracing the opportunities their parents extend to them as long as the parents didn't break the law doing so.

Na wetin be this? Ekaette…..Your Cho Cho Cho is just ridiculous at this point! Or could your issue be comprehension? I’ve seen you conflate issues too many times for it to be normal. Unless you’re just another twisted, foul human being—which I think might be the case—I don’t see how you can look at a career politician like Obasa and attach the idea of hard work to him, as if he were some Dangote, Jim Ovia, Elumelu, or others whose successes we can literally trace. Have you stopped being an advocate for holding your politicians accountable just because you want to do Cho Cho Cho on matters where you have zero knowledge, all due to your inflated ego and excessive need to be seen as always standing on the right side of things, while you can’t even hold yourself accountable?

By the way, what work ethic and achievements of the young man did you see people downplay? Could you name the monikers and quote the posts that downplayed his accomplishments?

Do you even know what it takes for a Nigerian banking marketer, or any marketer, to consistently hit their targets and set profits? You definitely have a problem with numbers and how they work, or maybe you’re just not as bright as you like to think. For a supposed biomedical graduate, you often lack the critical thinking needed to analyse issues and reach sensible conclusions.

You’ve never worked a day in your life in any corporate environment, let alone in a financial institution, but you want to lecture those who have on topics you know nothing about. How about you walk into any bank where you have an account and ask their marketers about their experiences before doing Cho Cho Cho on topics where you clearly lack experience or knowledge?

Nonsense.

I keep getting hidden mentions on this thread. What's with Nairaland's auto-policing system?

BlueRayDick:
The way u despise Jonathan ehn, one would think Jonathan was a failure and Buhari was the Messiah . Sometimes u make it seem like Jonathan failed on all fronts but Buhari was an “okay “ president .

I don’t like Jonathan and won’t hold brief for him , but the way u demonize him and use strong words like “he used ECA to bribe himself into power “ Dey make me fear who no fear u o. Anybody wey u no like that person go hear am! 🥵

Below was what Jonathan answered when he was asked about the ECA depletion under his tenure.



If the governors are asking him to draw from the funds to meet government’s financial obligations and indeed there is no place in Nigerian laws for the FG to keep the reserve , why then make it seem like he drew from the reserve to “bribe “ fellow politicians when he was using it to sort bills like the subsidy ?

Let’s not forget that Buhari and his co-travelers were part of those who protested against subsidy removal which would’ve freed more funds in the excess crude account o.

My point is Jonathan was a failure and Buhari was no better at all. I no just Dey like make person rightfully call Jonathan a failure and then start using halogen lamp to look for the tiniest of reasons not to label Buhari a certified failure .

ibime pre 2011 was a staunch believer in MEND and what they claimed to be fighting for. man was starry eyed. i think more than a few SS intellectuals were thoroughly disappointed at the turn of events. like how they immediately devolved sharing the national cake on frivolous contracts.

i had been bemused at GEJ's ascent, i lost any faith in him after the fallout of the october 1 bombing, where we foudn that the goverment had been aware of the plan the whole time and had no qualms about endangering nigerians to save face. literally the whole world knew there was going to be an attack. only nigerians did not know. then in the aftermath GEJ brought MEND warlords to pontificate in aso rock.

Also, GEJ's incompetence was on par with that of the previous northern ruling class that we all loved to hate. it was no longer easy to knock abokis

GloriousGbola:
let us not try to paint gej as an anti dictator

his admin gave us orubebe, and the ekiti debacle, and they sent soldiers to harass tinubu, he freed al mustapha, he returned fayose from his rightful place in political exile, he unleashed wike.

in GEJ's defence, he was never cut out to be President so people just manipulated him.

ibime had also discussed this before - gej was running through the ECA like a drunken sailor. it is hard to advocate for responsible spending and thift is the designated oga at the top is wasting money.

the short answer is GEJ turned the ECA from a savings fund to a spending fund and the rest is history

On comparison to OBJ Jonathan was less of a dictator .

How many senate president did Jonathan sack compared to OBJ.

I’m not in any way making Jonathan a saint because I lived through his administration and I know how people yarned to have him replaced , but we must state the fact that Buhari who replaced him was equally a failure and not some “okay “ president . Buhari’s administration was terrible !

BlueRayDick:
On comparison to OBJ Jonathan was less of a dictator .

How many senate president did Jonathan sack compared to OBJ.

I’m not in any way making Jonathan a saint because I lived through his administration and I know how people yarned to have him replaced , but we must state the fact that Buhari who replaced him was equally a failure and not some “okay “ president . Buhari’s administration was terrible !

in hindsight, buhari wanted to reward the people who were loyal to him[ through three elections ] but were not competent enough to win him any elections. just as they were not competent to win elections, they were not competent to run the country.

GloriousGbola:
in hindsight, buhari wanted to reward the people who were loyal to him[ through three elections ] but were not competent enough to win him any elections. just as they were not competent to win elections, they were not competent to run the country.

This is you explaining why he failed ; but the crux of the matter is he failed !

That’s all!

Buhari was a disaster. GEJ does not even come close.

semid4lyfe:
Buhari was a disaster. GEJ does not even come close.

this is where numbers would come in

what was our ECA when buhari met vs when GEJ met it?
what was our income?
how much was a barrel of oil?

in buharis first term we actually had an oil glut where the saudi war on fracking dropped price of oil to

https://mepc.org/speeches/saudi-arabia-and-oil-price-collapse/

Last June, oil sold at as much as $115 per barrel. Now it’s between $45 and $50. That’s a 60 percent collapse in price. There has been all sorts of speculation about why the Saudis let this happen and don’t seem to want to do anything about it.

add covid to the mix, which fked everyone over. buhari no try, but GEJ had much more going for him during his own term.

Griffon:
Wetin short people do you?

I just dey warn young men of the dangers of marrying short woman. See as Patrick Kluivert turn generational height into dwarfism because of totolitarianism

BlueRayDick:
The way u despise Jonathan ehn, one would think Jonathan was a failure and Buhari was the Messiah . Sometimes u make it seem like Jonathan failed on all fronts but Buhari was an “okay “ president .



Below was what Jonathan answered when he was asked about the ECA depletion under his tenure.

If the governors are asking him to draw from the funds to meet government’s financial obligations and indeed there is no place in Nigerian laws for the FG to keep the reserve , why then make it seem like he drew from the reserve to “bribe “ fellow politicians when he was using it to sort bills like the subsidy ?

I don't care what Jonathan said as excuse for sharing $50bln of the nations wealth with cronies at midnight on Dec 31st 2009 while the Nation was distracted with New Years eve celebration, something none of his predecessors did. The timing of the crime when National press is on holiday shows it wasn't done with clean hands despite the lamba above.

National finances are like a water tank. The day your tap stops running is not the day you should only vex for who bath that morning, but who has been running the tap for weeks until the water was low. WTF are we talking about $1bln here, $2bln there, $3bln Afrimex loan to help us stabilise Naira, when someone blew $50bln? The FX backlog we have been struggling with and spent the last 2 years clearing at great effort and strain on the Nation is just $7bln. Compared against someone who blew $50bln on nothing, in the voice of Chief Priest, "money na water".

Ibime:
I don't care what Jonathan said as excuse for sharing $50bln of the nations wealth with cronies at midnight on Dec 31st 2009 while the Nation was distracted with New Years eve celebration, something none of his predecessors did. The timing of the crime when National press is on holiday shows it wasn't done with clean hands despite the lamba above.

National finances are like a water tank. The day your tap stops running is not the day you should only vex for who bath that morning, but who has been running the tap for weeks until the water was low.

Compared against someone who blew $50bln on nothing, in the voice of Chief Priest, "money na water".

that is the really painful thing about GEJ's admin. there was /;is NOTHING to show for it. las las militants and the likes of kola aluko got rich. add pastor bling bling and his private jet used for gun running $15million usd. also chris aire.

infrastructure? just the usual empty promises. yes, buhari was a fk up - but he actually gave the ibos who love to hate him the second niger bridge. it was in his administration they finally fixed apapa oshodi expressway.

GloriousGbola:
that is the really painful thing about GEJ's admin. there was /;is NOTHING to show for it. las las militants and the likes of kola aluko got rich. add pastor bling bling and his private jet used for gun running $15million usd. also chris aire.

infrastructure? just the usual empty promises. yes, buhari was a fk up - but he actually gave the ibos who love to hate him the second niger bridge. it was in his administration they finally fixed apapa oshodi expressway.

[color=royalblue]So how was he a fk up?[/color]

GloriousGbola:
that is the really painful thing about GEJ's admin. there was /;is NOTHING to show for it. las las militants and the likes of kola aluko got rich. add pastor bling bling and his private jet used for gun running $15million usd. also chris aire.

infrastructure? just the usual empty promises. yes, buhari was a fk up - but he actually gave the ibos who love to hate him the second niger bridge. it was in his administration they finally fixed apapa oshodi expressway.

I'm talking about a specific drawdown of the ECA in one night, a one time heist, not the recurring chopping of the above which they all do

izzou:
[color=royalblue]So how was he a fk up?[/color]

no one will get it all right - but buhari did well on infrastructure

he should have held the line on subsidy removal - instead he re introduced subsidy as underecovery

he also over populated his cabinet with incompetent kinsmen who achieved nothing

and he honestly should have sold ph refinery off. as long as the refineries are under NNPC where there is no accountability, they are white elephants