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Throwback:
But same Cardinal Arinze still ensured that the same baby Bishop Okpaeleke whom he has taken as a protege, was still appointed a Cardinal ahead of many senior bishops and archbishops in Nigeria that are too numerous to mention all, for instance, Archbishop Anthony Etukudoh, Archbishop Alfred Adewale Martins, Archbishop Valerian Okeke. These are Bishops who manage larger diocese/archdiocese and been consecrated bishops many years before Arinze's favourite.

Arinze took his favouritism and tribalism all the way to Rome because he has Influence with the late Pope Francis.

We understood the logic behind how Archbishops Dominic Ekandem was appointed Cardinal by Pope John Paul II, and how same Pope later appointed Archbishops Arinze as Cardinal and much later Archbishop Okogie as Cardinal. We know the experience of Archbishop Onaiyekan before Pope Benedict VI appointed him Cardinal.

So how exactly will same Cardinal Arinze that knew his own and his peer's experience before they were elevated to Cardinal, then go ahead to recommend his protege to be cardinal from a very insignificant experience as Bishop of a small diocese?

Cardinal Arinze no try at all and serially abused his closeness to the late Pope, who expected he was being guided correctly.

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

mrvitalis:
Mbaise people would do it again and again over and over again

As far as we know we are right let the whole world ve against us we don't care

We stand by truth, you can't change the rule when it comes to our own never

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

PresidObi:
They will keep spinning it, even as Tinubu hunger is spinning their intestines into destruction.

mrvitalis:
The Catholic Church had rules and what mbaise people was to defend the rules of the Catholic Church and the choice of our late Bishop our father

You regarded choices made by our Bishop for his replacement which is the standard rule of the Church? And want us to keep quiet because you are cardinal Arinze? Lmaooo you obviously don't know mbaise people

There is an reason Nigerian Army never conquered mbaise till the war ended

mrvitalis:
Oga there is a rule on how to select Bishop

Every Bishop goes to Rome every 3 years to submit 3 names as possible replacement... From their one must be chosen

All we asked for was obey this rule of the judge and the pope agreed with us

So what's exactly is your point

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

Solsix:
Stop misleading the people, okpaleke was appointed because mbaise priest were writing petition against one another. It was a case of if not me no one else. The pope decided to give them priest from another place and they started crying foul. Okpaleke resigned because according to canon law if a bishop resides out his diocese for five years, he should resign. The current Nnewi diocese has a bishop from awka outside the diocese. The priest and the lay faithful accepted him with joy. If you think that cardinal arinze have the power to appoint a bishop then you don't know the Catholic Church . BTW is not a must for the pope to accept names submitted by the bishop

AareGaa:
Na lie.

Yorubas are the most tolerant people I have ever known.
That is why you have a large number of non indigenes living among them.

How many non indigenes live in the South East?
None!

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

tete7000:
Bros you people rejected the Bishop the church gave you, plain and simple. No need for all these explanations. In the course of doing that you people with some of your priests did some abominable things.

Throwback:
I did not take Cardinal Arinze's matter too seriously when Okpalaeke was rejected by the Catholics in Mbaise, even though I knew of the arguments for and against. However, when Okpalaeke was appointed Cardinal in total disregard for the work and experience of the many other Archbishops that are in Nigeria, then I realised that cardinal Arinze's favouritism for Bishop Okpalaeke has no cure.

If the late Pope had decided to settle for a new Cardinal from Nigeria without relying on Cardinal Arinze's input, Bishop Okpalaeke would not have been on the list of contenders not to talk of being the one chosen of the lot.

The kind of favouritism we see in the workplace, where those with less experience and contributions to the company are promoted and fast-tracked to the top ahead of those who are actually doing more for the company, is what I see with the elevation that Okpalaeke has achieved to become Bishop and then Cardinal. Some will say it is grace but all I see is politics.

mrvitalis:
Why has his awka produced more Bishop than everyone

tete7000:
Bros you people rejected the Bishop the church gave you, plain and simple. No need for all these explanations. In the course of doing that you people with some of your priests did some despicable and abominable things.
Okpaleke didn't resign to save face, which face? He resigned to let peace reign and was crowned with another position because once a Bishop, always a Bishop. Stop twisting the narrative.

GeneralPula:
Jargons..

Pygmalionn:
Tribal sentiments apart, the rejection of a newly appointed bishop by mbaise people is totally absurd and shows how highly bigoted mbaise people are *not all Igbos*
I see one Monica Vitalis twisting stories to make it look like other tribes are hating on Igbos. mbaise people remain the most bigoted clan in Igbo land. Bishop ogbalaeke was rejected because he is from Anambra State, they said why Anambra person when they have over 800 priest and non has been made bishop. They even threatened to pull out of catholic church..imagine ,,,

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

okezuoemmanue:
U rejected him because the Catholic church doesn't enforce it's rule like the normal government... Ask Rivers State people

blamingthedevil:
UPDATE:
The Bishop that Ahiara rejected (fellow Igbo Catholic, but his ‘sin’ was that he was from another community in another State), has gone on to become a Cardinal, and now, a member of the Papal Conclave.

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

Gryffindor:
Actually when it happened I condemned Mbaise ppl,it's priest & the catholic hierarchy.
But man let's think this carefully are you telling me that outta 800 priest not even one was deemed fit for Episcopal position,how then do U encourage the church in the area.
Every bishop has atleast 3 names chosen incase of his death, are U telling me not even one outta the 3 chosen merited such position?
It's a very delicate matter that needs serios study before casting blames,because the diocese happened to accept Lucius Ugorji from Umuahia,so felt like their reasons kinda seemed valid

mrvitalis:
Some people are just ignorant

I am from mbaise and I know this story very well

1) a Bishop every 3 years submit 3 names to pope for his possible replacement
2) mbaise Bishop dies out of over 90 names he submitted during his time as Bishop... None was picked
3) cardinal Arinze picked someone from his place... Note awka has 300 priest and has produced 5 Bishops ... Mbaise has 800 priest and hasn't produced a Bishop

4) mbaise people rejected saying no to Bishop from. Awka.... Later accepted a Bishop from. Umuahia then later and mbaise Bishop was appointed

Mbaise didn't reject him because he is not mbaise no... The rejected him because 1) it didn't follow the rule 2) they suspected foul play from. Cardinal Arinze

And when Pope Francis heard the real story okpalake reigned to save face

That's the Igbo spirit... We told the 1.4 Catholics we can never accept injustice and the we didn't until the right thing was done

If you want to spin it go ahead

GeneralPula:
Jargons..