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obedience4:
Mining the cheap option, This isn't WW2, if Mining is the only means for Iran to close the strait, then that's move is deemed to fail, a massive mine sweeping operation by the US and it's allies then the strait is open.. They are modern mine sweepers ships

Mining won't be the best option.

Appleyard:
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said Saudi Arabia will join a fight directly with Iran against US/Israel.

I simply mentioned the fact that Iran won't be fighting alone if a major war breaks out in the region. I supported my assertions with factual example.

Iran is a huge and key regional player, you don't have to like or hate it. Fact is fact. When push comes to shove, there are those that would back Iran directly and indirectly.

The world has since moved on from the days when nations particularly in that region only acts subservient to please western diktats. Now everyone is looking out for what's best for itself, especially from a pool of like-minded nations. That's why you have the SCO, BRICs, which Iran is proudly part of.

Based on the current realities, nations, including those supposedly western allies are redrawing their stance and balancing their national interest and geopolitical allegiance on the global scale of equilibrium provided by multipolarism--the new world order championed by a rising China and a determined Russia.

Heck.. even the house of Sauds have normalized relations with Tehran, courtesy of China. In geopolitics, there are no permanent enemies.

Any major war involving Iran will not be limited to the ME alone. Folks that fails to realize this will keep missing the bigger picture. It will quickly spiral to West-Asia and to Africa, viz the rest of the world in a matter of days, if not hours.

Thank God you mentioned Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz. You can imagine the catastrophic damage that would cost the world economically. Just close your eyes for a moment and picture the chain reaction that would cause across the globe.

The more I think about it, the more I pray it should never happen during my time. Most people don't even realize how volatile the world is at the moment.

basilico:
Okay You don't know about these Muslim bullies. They are all talk. They can plunge us into WW3 do that they don't look weak
Iran was mining the Straits of Hormuz and harassing ships in 1982.
Reagan bombed their offshore well , took out the rig abd sank Iranian navy
They tried putting up a show for a few hours but were silenced like kindergarten kids.
Operation Praying Mantis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

If Trump is behind the attacks they will not do anything like last time when he took out Solemani.They begged to be allowed to file fire cruise missiles to a particular base after having issued a 30 minute warning.At least they saved face and the Mullahs came out looking strong.Wuth Israel Hamas war ,their facade of invincibility was blown to smithereens.

Obedience40:
Bravo, 👏 finally, someone with a clear sense of reason, respect my brother Usmanpogo, I am in total aggrement with most of the points you mentioned, but me being me, i am very
critical of the bolded, very critical!!.

What do you mean by subjugated by the US??
There are these false narratives that the US are subjugating its allies, why countries like China and Russia are not, i don't understand the rational behind such school of thought, while no relationship is equal, there will always be a dorminat partner, which is influenced by certain factors like economic strength,military capabilities, and political influence. but one thing is cardinal, there is a MUTUAL BENEFIT being accrued by both parties. Same with the US and its Arab allies. Which can be tagged as a mutualism type of Symbiosis relationship.

Most of the Arab nations are rich in natural resources, but me and you know that oil alone isn't the criterion that brings development neither can't it bring security nor political stability, the Arab spring, the Nigeria state and the Africa continent at large are good examples to buress my point that the endowment of natural resources is not the touchstone for development and political stability.

This is where the US comes in. The US almost certainly guarantees you political stability, economic growth, and security.

Let's use the Kuwaiti example, Saddam hussein woke up one morning just like Putin and invaded his tiny oil rich neighbour Kuwait. Without the US help, they might not be a Kuwait state today. The US liberated Kuwait, what you termed "greed, "cowardice", "indecisiveness" it's what keeps Kuwait safe today.

The middle-east is dominated by two distinct types of Islam, the moderate and the fanatic Islam, without the US help and support most of the traditional monarchy governments of some Arab state would have been overrun by these fanatics, Iran was once a US ally until she was taken over by religious fanatics!!.

They're currently US troops deployed in Saudi Arabia, bear in mind that the Saudis are the custodian of the Islamic religion in the world, yet they would approve the deployment of America troops on the holy land.Both nations have signed a "Mutual Defence Assistance Agreement".Despite the differences between the two countries—one an Islamic absolute monarchy, the other secular democratic country. That tells us the role the US plays in the middle-east.

The US relations in the middle-east are based on interest, The US provides security and political stability, while the latters provide a stable and steady supply of oil and support for American foreign policy.

When you say the US is subjugating the Arab nations that's wrong, it is a win-win suitation for both parties. The US provides certain services that make her the darling of the Arab world, Until a new country can fill the US boots in the middle-east, she would continue to hold sway, Until there's an alternative, the US will continue to have diplomatic and military influence over the region.
Russia couldn't even bail Assad out. Iran could not save hazebolla while the US have kept the Jews in the game for donkey years.

Cheers mate.

basilico:
Okay You don't know about these Muslim bullies. They are all talk. They can plunge us into WW3 so that they don't look weak
Iran was mining the Straits of Hormuz and harassing ships in 1982.
Reagan bombed their offshore well , took out the rig and sank any Iranian navy vessels on sight .
They tried putting up a show for a few hours but were silenced like kindergarten kids.
Operation Praying Mantis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

If Trump is behind the attacks they will not do anything like last time when he took out Solemani.They 'begged to be allowed to fire cruise missiles to a particular base after having issued a 30 minute warning.At least they saved face and the Mullahs came out looking strong.Wuth Israel Hamas war ,their facade of invincibility was blown to smithereens.
Middle East has a string emphasis on saving male honour and Qisas ( revenge). Brothers and father will murder their sister if she dishonours them by for example
_refusing to get married to a dinosaur they have chosen for her and received dowry
_Not being a virgin before marriage

It's all about their honour,saving face and not being humiliated.

Israel existence is a humiliation to the Muslim world all over,it's still a sovereign state snack in their middle when they have gone out to eat to eradicate it
If Iran detonated a nuclear bomb in Jerusalem the worldwide Muslim world will celebrate for thousands of years despite majority if the dead being their fellow Muslims.

Watcharena:
Iran beg to be around to an American base in middle East, yet the victims or casualties of the attack were awarded purple heart

WritterNg:
⚡Iskander on Lebedivka, Odesa Oblast.

Two Orlan-10 reconnaissance drones are active in the area.

"It is the Russian army that tore the guts out of the German military machine," Winston Churchill.

When politicians use today's agendas to rewrite the past and turn heroes into villains, we have no choice but to return to history as it was.

We have used technology to bring to… pic.twitter.com/zruYhF42FO

— Margarita Simonyan (@M_Simonyan) May 3, 2025

WritterNg:
Zelensky threatened to attack Russia's May 9th Victory Day parade, with world leaders present.

I pray he does that, so Xi shows Putin how to handle dumb terrorists.

I will never forgive Putin for letting Zelensky live this long.

obedience4:
Your fellow Russian lover, corrected you the first time.. I don't have the time dude.

The above examples I used many may have gotten support via military aid and economical aid, my "MAIN POINT" from all my assertions here was "MUTUAL DEFENCE PACT". which your beloved Iran lacks. You can spin it anyhow you like.. I don't care🤷

You think WW3 is call of duty, Russia a nuclear power is getting bombed with weapons made from The US and sent by the US, it has not triggered WW3 you think bombing Iran would?? Like I said you are way out of your depths.

The Arab world this the Arab world that, Since the bombing of Gaza which Arab nation has taken any solid action, Egypt sealed its borders with Gaza, a pro Russian guy tried correcting you but it seems you would rather wallow in ignorance.

Is it not the same "Arab nations" that helped the Jews along with the US to intercept the missiles barrage from Iran?? Is it not the same "Arab nations" which are hosting US and western military installations.

How come will the same Arab nations, most of them dependent on the US for political and military support, turn around and support IRAN against the US chief ally in the region.

The funny think about your whole argument is that IRAN is not even ARAB, if you are a good student of history you will know that there's animosity between IRAN and most of the ARAB nations.. I ask you the other time to name the Arab nations willing to go to war with Israel on behalf of Iran??, you were mute😂, Just give me two arab nations and state your reasons, You are busying writing about ideologies.

You said Agreements, legal binding arrangements (the Abraham Accords) is mere political talk, isn't that a cliche when your own argument is base on a single fantasy "ideology" Arab hatred for the Jews.

All you wrote can be sumed as tales by moonlight

This is 2025 not 1980s.. the Arabs have moved on.

shoodboi2:
They will be sanctioned and overthrown if they dare to openly support Iran. They know too well to not dare an open support.

shoodboi2:
Yemen shut down the Red Sea despite not having a navy and an air force. So what makes you think Iran, which is more powerful than Yemen, won't be able to pull off such move?

basilico:
Okay You don't know about these Muslim bullies. They are all talk. They can plunge us into WW3 so that they don't look weak
Iran was mining the Straits of Hormuz and harassing ships in 1982.
Reagan bombed their offshore well , took out the rig and sank any Iranian navy vessels on sight .
They tried putting up a show for a few hours but were silenced like kindergarten kids.
Operation Praying Mantis.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis

If Trump is behind the attacks they will not do anything like last time when he took out Solemani.They 'begged to be allowed to fire cruise missiles to a particular base after having issued a 30 minute warning.At least they saved face and the Mullahs came out looking strong.With Israel Hamas war ,their facade of invincibility was blown to smithereens.
Middle East has a strong emphasis on saving male honour and Qisas ( revenge). Brothers and father will murder their sister if she dishonours them, for example by
_refusing to get married to a dinosaur they have chosen for her and received dowry
_Not being a virgin before marriage

It's all about their honour,saving face and not being humiliated.

Israel existence is a humiliation to the Muslim world all over,it's still a sovereign Jewish state smack in their midst when they have gone all out on a limb to eradicate it unsuccessfully.
If Iran detonated a nuclear bomb in Jerusalem the worldwide Muslim world will celebrate for thousands of years despite majority of the dead being their fellow Muslims.