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Hypocrite. And this one called herself librator of female folks, now she just exploited poverty among female gender and she's not even ashamed to say it out

PressMyButton:
I don't want to say what's on my mind. However, this is double standards coming from Chimamanda who is a self acclaimed feminist. Is she not supposed to be a voice for women being a feminist?. Surrogacy is a form of slavery, prostitution, exploitation of a woman's body. She knew she didn't practice what she preaches, little wonder she didn't come out earlier.

Yeah you're right but the bittered women's association aka feminists will never see this. Surrogacy is a reformed modern day slavery and it is not far from human organ transfer for money.

Kobojunkie:
This is total bullsheet reasoning! 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Bullsheet! 🙄🙄🙄

Of course, surrogacy is exploitation of females in poverty by females in affluence

Xannadu:
Did you even check the meaning of surrogacy before posting this? Let me explain it to you in it's most basic form: The husband's sperm is taken from him, the wife's egg is taken from her, they are joined together through a process called in vitro fertilization in the lab, and then this is inserted into the surrogate's (a consenting, well paid adult female) womb.

Now tell me, does this look like the process you just described above?

It doesn't have to be the wife's egg if for some reasons she couldn't produce or not suitable

PressMyButton:
This is why I didn't want to talk about it, I have nothing against surrogacy. But for Chimamanda who prides herself as a feminist and at every platform, hammers on it, I find it as a dishonesty. Before you start forming feminism, just pray life doesn't happen to you.

Jezebel was a Feminist


Can you see the me me me and only my way ideology

Nice that the hullabaloo is about the ethics of surrogacy and not the right to call herself a mother/woman.

We are getting there.

Christistruth02:
Jezebel was a Feminist

You say?

maasoap:
➜Of course, surrogacy is exploitation of females in poverty by females in affluence

Balderdash! 🙄🙄🙄

Anything can be exploited; surrogacy, not an exception. That does not mean surrogacy itself is exploitation. But rather means that there should be laws in place to prevent exploitation. 😑😑😑

PressMyButton:
That's IVF. However, if another woman donates her egg, that's surrogacy. I'm tired of repeating myself.

You keep disgracing yourself thinking you're making sense, everyone has corrected you that the surrogate's womb is only used not her eggs, but you choose to be willfully ignorant and daft, and later on, you'd claim to have passed the four walls of a school

Christistruth02:
Jezebel was a Feminist


Can you see the me me me and only my way ideology

Brother, you made me pour water on myself

Christistruth02:
➜Jezebel was a Feminist. Can you see the me me me and only my way ideology

Jezebel was a feminist? Why are you people so deluded?😩😩😩😩

The woman was a strong politician, and her husband had no issues with that.

PressMyButton:
In IVF, it is your own egg that will be used but in surrogacy, it's another woman's egg.. big difference.

You are confused. There’s traditional surrogacy and theirs gestational surrogacy.

If Adichie’s egg and her husband’s sperm cells were used, then she’s the biological mother. She shares genes with the babies compared to what you wrote up there.

JovialJune:
You keep disgracing yourself thinking you're making sense, everyone has corrected you that the surrogate's womb is only used not her eggs, but you choose to be willfully ignorant and daft, and later on, you'd claim to have passed the four walls of a school

How about those whose eggs are being paid for to help birth a child?.. Disgrace yourself, let me see.

bukatyne:
Nice that the hullabaloo is about the ethics of surrogacy and not the right to call herself a mother/woman.

We are getting there.



You say?

And also about the appropriateness of being a mother.

KosiGee:
You are confused. There’s traditional surrogacy and theirs gestational surrogacy.

If Adichie’s egg and her husband’s sperm cells were used, then she’s the biological mother. She shares genes with the babies compared to what you wrote up there.

Emphasis on IF. When people gave birth through IVF, they say it. Why are we trying to cover up for surrogacy?

PressMyButton:
In IVF, it is your own egg that will be used but in surrogacy, it's another woman's egg.. big difference.

That’s not how it works. Mr loud and wrong

PressMyButton:
While I thought your head was on your shoulders tonight..my bad.
Tell me the agreement between you and a surrogate mother before she agreed to carry your baby and tell me if there's any difference with same agreement as in prostitution.
Biologically, a woman whose egg receives the spermatozoa is the mother of the baby. Enough said.

Unfortunately, they are not her eggs. She only owns the womb.

Eboofa:
I disagree with you completely..............so what about IVF then? this is assisted reproduction, she obviously wants more children and she had one by herself! If a woman is ready to put to bed for her ...whats the big deal! the fact she was open about it is also a big positive!

Are we sure it's surrogacy? Which implies that the children are genetically connected to het..or adoption where there is no relationship.

Since she had chosen to be open about this, she should clarify this aspect to us

It is also a valid question to ask her how all this aligns with Feminism, which we all know is her religion

cococandy:
That’s not how it works. Mr loud and wrong

Doctor who, how does it work?

loffyloffy:
➜Are we sure it's surrogacy? Which implies that the children are genetically connected to het..or adoption where there is no relationship. Since she had chosen to be open about this, she should clarify this aspect to us It is also a valid question to ask her how all this aligns with Feminism, which we all know is her religion

Are feminists anti-adoption and anti-surrogacy?

PressMyButton:
You go explain tire.

Women have been having children through other women from the days of old, I hope you know that.
It's not new.

Rachel in the bible first had children through her maidservant Bilhah, before she was able to have by herself.
It also happened with Hagar, but that one wanted to show sense, and Sarah put her in her place.

PressMyButton:
Doctor who, how does it work?

I can see now that you’ve been corrected so many times. At this point you are just choosing ignorance. Go and waste someone else’s time. Take care

maasoap:
Of course, surrogacy is exploitation of females in poverty by females in affluence

Not in all situations. Some were moved to help the couples involved, some were in it because of the money, while some others even did it for free.

cococandy:
I can see now that you’ve been corrected so many times. At this point you are just choosing ignorance. Go and waste someone else’s time. Take care

Mtcheew

Mariangeles:
Women have been having children through other women from the days of old, I hope you know that.
It's not new.

Rachel in the bible first had children through her maidservant Bilhah, before she was able to have by herself.
It also happened with Hagar, but that one wanted to show sense, and Sarah put her in her place.

Lol, But the kids belonged to Bilhah and Hagar respectively. When Hagar was sent away, she left with her child, she didn't leave him to Sarah.

PressMyButton:
I don't want to say what's on my mind. However, this is double standards coming from Chimamanda who is a self acclaimed feminist. Is she not supposed to be a voice for women being a feminist?. Surrogacy is a form of slavery, prostitution, exploitation of a woman's body. She knew she didn't practice what she preaches, little wonder she didn't come out earlier. Like it or not, accept it or not, any baby born through surrogacy does not belong to you biologically. No matter how some states or countries might legalize it, biologically, the child isn't yours still. Well, I wish her well. But next time, stay one place, if you want to practice feminism, do it with your full chest, otherwise, commot. Reminds me of Linda Ikeji preaching abstinence but lo and behold, aunty was busy jumping on Uber to go and collect. I hate double standards.

PS; it seems some folks just want to argue for the sake of it. There's a reason she's called a Surrogate Mother

I don't think you have a biological understanding of what surrogacy constitutes.

What surrogacy means is that the woman donates her eggs while the man donates his sperm which will be used to form what is called an "embryo", and it will then be transferred into the uterus of another woman who must have been medically certified to have a competent womb to carry the fetuses to term and deliver.

Go to anywhere in the world and do any form of biological test, results will definitely show the real owners of the children.

Tell me if the eggs and sperm used in the formation of the babies belong to her and her partner, who do those babies belong to?

Eboofa:
I disagree with you completely..............so what about IVF then? this is assisted reproduction, she obviously wants more children and she had one by herself! If a woman is ready to put to bed for her ...whats the big deal! the fact she was open about it is also a big positive!

It is selfish and exploitative. Certainly in contradiction to feminist ideas . Was the Surrogate mother her sister or family member or did she pay them?
A woman is ready to put to bed for her? Ready WHY? Out of the goodness of her Christian Mind? Would you advice your daughter to do that for a stranger or for money?
If a woman needs to be paid for this then she is desperate or close to desperate and being exploited
Would Chimamanda be a surrogate mother?

She has already had a child before so it is not a fertility issue but a lifestyle choice.

Rich women freeze their eggs and think they can have babies whenever they like

I do not judge necessarily but it is hypocrisy to claim to be a feminist if you do that as a lifestyle choice

jmoore:
Surrogate is like an incubator.

Surrogate mother only give access for her womb to be used to house the baby.
You should take advantage of Tinubu's loan to get simple education.

Just trust Una,for anyhow explanations.
'Surrogate MOTHER ONLY give access for her Womb to be used to house the baby ' please,clap for Una self.
So,In the Womb,No Blood Of the Surrogate Mother Is Involved For 9- Months,abi- 'Mr ONLY ' ?
-Congratulations 👏 to Madam Chimamanda Adichie,at least for coming out Straight and TRUTHFUL about it-the very ingredients that is lacking in Our Country today- Just Facts and Truth!
May the Almighty God keep your Twins and your Daughter,ijn.

PressMyButton:
In IVF, it is your own egg that will be used but in surrogacy, it's another woman's egg.. big difference.

There are different types e.g in gestational surrogacy the surrogate mother's egg is not used it is still a form of IVF

JovialJune:
You keep disgracing yourself thinking you're making sense, everyone has corrected you that the surrogate's womb is only used not her eggs, but you choose to be willfully ignorant and daft, and later on, you'd claim to have passed the four walls of a school

There are different types e,g
Traditional
Gestational

This can be easily checked with Google

Both of you have half knowledge which is generally more dangerous than no knowledge
The surrogate's eggs may or may not be used

PressMyButton:
In IVF, it is your own egg that will be used but in surrogacy, it's another woman's egg.. big difference.

Why not atleast read and know about a topic before arguing about it. Boldly saying nonsense. It’s just the body that is needed the egg belongs to the real mother. You as surrogate is just there to carry the baby for them and they pay them heavily for it.

You are actually getting it wrong.
In surrogacy, egg can come from anyone,

Let me break it down for you

In:

IUI: fertilisation is done inside the parent womb.
IVF: fertilisation is done outside and returned to the parents womb ( egg or sperm can come from anyone.
Surrogacy: a Surrogate carries the fertilised egg ( egg or sperm can come from anyone)

PressMyButton:
That's IVF. However, if another woman donates her egg, that's surrogacy. I'm tired of repeating myself.