₦airaland Forum

Agbegbaorogboye:
Where is it in the Qur'an

Maximus692:
At birth women bears their father's name so when they make a vow to God only their father can break such vow and God will forgive them because their owner not them ends the vow.
God later said if the woman is married her vows can also be broken by her husband. Numbers 30:3-8

The question:

If she bears her father's name at birth and he has the right to break her vows whose name should she bear now that she's MARRIED and has BECOME ONE {Genesis 2:24; Matthew 19:5-6} with someone else who also has the right to break her vows?

nans24:
Next time, learn how to do proper research online before you come here to support or spill lies. A woman bearing her husbands name is a customary or traditional requirement common in some customs. It is NOT a scriptural requirement because their is no scripture that says a woman MUST bear her husbands name. Learn how to seperate customs and traditions of men from Gods word.
Now get off my sight.

nans24:
Please quote one scripture in the bible that shows that a woman MUST bear her husbands name.

Just one please.

nans24:
Please quote one scripture in the bible that shows that a woman MUST bear her husbands name.

Just one please.

Dvea:
This is untrue. Why do we take our own beliefs and force it on others and then claim it's biblical.

In the Bible women were called and linked to their fathers same as sons. You'd see many people in the Bible being referred to as YYYY daughter of YYYY. Biblically linage was paternal so daughters retained their identity to their father not to their husbands.

Besides we forget that there is a world beyond West Africa. If he had said its mot right in Ghanaian culture I won't argue but to say it's wrong the whole world over ignores all of the cultures that traditionally requires women to keep their fathers name. Most south east Asian countries like China, Korea, Vietnam have traditional laws where women keep their names.

Many European countries have the same law such as Spain, Greece, and France. Even Canada has such a law.

We trolly need to stop tagging everything as biblical in a bid to solidify our own opinion. He could have just said I don't think it's right not it's not biblical.

tosyne2much:
Clinching to your husband's surname shows uniformity or togetherness

By the way, why would a woman even refuse to bear her husband's surname

Oh I forgot feminism has taken over everything lately

Antichristian2:
Ask Google!

LordReed:
So anybody you submit to you must change your name to their name?

Vulcan24:
When they knack your wife n they tell u they don't know she's married ur eye go clear

bentenny:
The moment you get married and ur wife refuses to adopt your surname,just know that that is the beginning of your problems!

In a nutshell,she doesn't rate or respect you!

NothingDoMe:
I already quoted Isaiah 4:1. You may counter it with another scripture.

OviOrunmila:
Why are you quoting from the Jewish Torah, the Jewish Torah is meant for the people of the Jew, it serves as the guidelines and a custom and traditions to them... They are not Christians, one of the article of faith that convert you to JW, is acceptable to them, which is John 3 Vs 16...... You can pick a law out of thousand just to support you motion and left the other one, if agree to this law I wish you agree to paying if tithe as well.......

Dvea:
The translation I have of Isaiah 4:1 is

When that time comes, seven women will grab hold of one man and say, please let us call you our husband....

It did not say let us take your name. That is simply a translation issue. Calling your husband doesn't mean taking your husband's name.

To my point biblically people were called by either their fathers name or their location... Mary of Magdala, or Jesus's of Nazareth. If you want a verse then 2nd Samuel 11: 3 Bathsheba was called the daughter of Eliam even though she was married to King David. A whole King.

Back to your point. Isish was foretelling the destruction and exile of the isrealities due to their sin and the punishments they will have. Men will die in war and women will have no men to marry. That passage had nothing to do with the normal lives of people. So why do people like you take Bible verses out of context and use it to back up your point. The Bible is a history book with events that led to and away from everything. You are using a passage that foretold a punishment that happened even before Christ as your yardstick. And the translation of the passage isn't even the same through out all Bible versions. Do you see how problematic you people are. That's why a pastor can come and tell you things like this and you'll clap your hands and say ride on.

Back again to my point that you so conveniently ignored. What about traditional customs that do not allow women take their husband's name. Are they all sinners because you want to claim it's not Biblical?

The world is bigger than your own beliefs and cultures in Nigeria. Learn about other customs and stop trying to use the Bible to back up your private opinions. Because if I want to, I can also claim the Bible says men who have properties are all bad and doomed to die.... Isaiah 5: 8

nans24:
Please quote one scripture in the bible that shows that a woman MUST bear her husbands name.

Just one please.

MasterTeeUSA:
Do you know why Blacks in the US have White People Last Name? Descendants of slaves...so slaves were made to take the last name of their slave masters.

Old things have passed away..Behold a new thing

You can use the same logic because when you marry, you are now one and the same..My argument is ...if you cannot replace your father's name with his...at least add his name to your fathers'. It still shows however that you want to be identified as the daughter of ...... not as the wife of ..... so you don't plan to leave the old for the new.

Then why marry a man you cannot give your all too? That's a question to ponder over. Convenience maybe? Children maybe? Just to fulfill society's righteousness?

LordIsaac:
Keep waiting till another woman gladly takes his name.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Lol
So Google that's made by a kafir is now your source for Qur'an
Chai!!

delishpot:
Bible say man go leave papa and mama cling to wife, pastors say wife go leave papa and mama cling to husband. Perverted translators.

wany:
Respect shouldn't come in.you are not a demi God.

richie240:
Show us just one scripture in d bible that says igbo-smoking/cocaine-sniffing is a sin!
Just one please!

NothingDoMe:
1. Which translation of Isaiah 4:1 are you using?

2. 2nd Samuel 11:3 David sent and inquired after the woman. One said, "Isn't this Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam, the wife of Uriah the Hittite?"

You are misquoting scripture to prove your point. She wasn't David's wife at this point. As you can clearly read she was called Uriah's wife.

3. It seems your thoughts on this matter are somewhat disorganized, making a substantive response or debate challenging. Summarise your thoughts with straightforward points.

Let's focus on one discussion at a time. We should stick to our initial debate on what the Bible says about name change. We can then move on to cultural discussions afterward.