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lumens:
Nigerian politics like every other one requires some strategies and political calculations including alignments, defections, patience and a stroke of luck.

Alhaji Atiku Abubakar is a serial Nigerian politician. Having served as the former vice-president of the country between 1999-2007, he has been contesting for the highest office in the land since 1993.

In the build up to the 2015 election, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar led some governors out of the PDP and forged an alignment that birthed the current APC.

In my opinion, Atiku could have thrown his weight behind Goodluck Jonathan and ensured he won the 2015 election. This is what President Bola Tinubu did when he patiently waited for President Buhari to finish eight years before throwing his hat into the ring.

The gang up against President Jonathan in 2015 that ensured his defeat ended Atiku's hopes of ever becoming President of Nigeria.


Your thoughts?

Not sure if sticking with Jonathan would have guaranteed anything for him as Jonathan most probably would not have handed over power to Atiku, but voting with Buhari and Tinubu against Jonathan was surely a political mistake from a personal perspective for Atiku.

I think most of them jumped into the APC bandwagon because of Jonathans very evident political weakness. They feared no repercussions because Jonathan was nothing but a naive wreck so grossly incapable of instigating fear amongst his political traducers..,

But the problem was that in the process of bulldozing Jonathan out of power, a lot of them in that APC mafia group overestimated their chances of ever amounting to anything politically tangible post Buhari.
And that was what happened; Tilimgbu and Buhari had a "plan" within a "plan", and the rest were never part of that "plan"..

lumens:
Nigerian politics like every other one requires some strategies and political calculations including alignments, defections, patience and a stroke of luck.

Alhaji Atiku Abubakar is a serial Nigerian politician. Having served as the former vice-president of the country between 1999-2007, he has been contesting for the highest office in the land since 1993.

In the build up to the 2015 election, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar led some governors out of the PDP and forged an alignment that birthed the current APC.

In my opinion, Atiku could have thrown his weight behind Goodluck Jonathan and ensured he won the 2015 election. This is what President Bola Tinubu did when he patiently waited for President Buhari to finish eight years before throwing his hat into the ring.

The gang up against President Jonathan in 2015 that ensured his defeat ended Atiku's hopes of ever becoming President of Nigeria.


Your thoughts?

Tinubu did not become president because he patiently waited for Byhari, he only won because buhari was too much of a hypocrite to declare a successor and he tinubu was prepared to fight dirty because he was opposed vehemently by buhari's boys. The currency change was all because of tinubu

SarkinYarki:
Atiku should have been the number supporter of Jonathan in 2014 because he would have been the biggest beneficiary of a Jonathan victory and he would be in his second term now president . I wonder how he allowed Tinubu deceive him , if Tinubu was in his shoes he would have supported Jonathan

What myopic point of view is this, Atiku that was supposed to be president after Obasanjo, instead of Yaradua, in your own estimation lost out because he didn't support Jonathan who was 2 classes behind him.

Atiku's best chances was to have been the president after Obj, if he had trusted and supported Obj, he would have been president. It was his over ambition that made Obj see him as a threat, and that was end of his opportunity

All these small small boys commenting with tribalism in their hearts.


Atiku made too many political mistakes and miscalculations out of the arrogance that he was a rich and influential Northern politician.


Atiku's first political mistake was shielding his sword after drawing it out against his own boss OBJ. In politics, once you declare war against a bigger political figure who now happens to the President, don't ever go back, finish him up and take over if not, you are gone for real if he survived your attack.


Atiku already defeated OBJ in 2003 and was on his way to becoming PDP Candidate before OBj went and knelt before Atiku begging him to allow him finish his second tenure, that he would hand over power to him. Atiku being a naive politician accepted this after humiliating his own boss, the sitting President to kneel before him, he still expected same man to hand over power to him, who does that?


That was Atiku's mistake number one. He shouldn't have listened to OBJ's pleas, he should have went ahead to seize the PDP ticket and he would have completed OBJ's tenure.

After that mistake, Atiku still didn't learn. He was romancing with Bola Tinubu that Obasanjo knew was a future political threat in Southwest, Obasanjo was removing all the Governors in Southwest to his loyalists, when it got to Lagos, Tinubu went to Afenifere, Yoruba elders and Atiku begging them to intervene on his behalf, they all begged Obasanjo, Atiku being the one in charge of the PDP rigging mercenaries spared Bola Tinubu who happened to be his secret political ally in Southwest he was hoping would help him become President in future. If Atiku had allowed Obasanjo to finish Tinubu by removing Tinubu from Lagos, there wouldn't have been a Tinubu failing President today.


Atiku being a very naive and clueless politician continued in his political miscalculations again in 2014 when he led and sponsored a Northern political revolt against Goodluck Jonathan, his biggest mistake.


After Jonathan, the next biggest politician in PDP then was Atiku Abubakar and it was clear that after Jonathan, Presidential power was returning back to the North. If power remained in PDP and Jonathan completed his tenure and power went back to the North based on PDP's unofficial zoning agreement, who else was in the position to fly PDP ticket in the North if not Atiku? But being an impatient, naive and a bit arrogant politician, Atiku led Northern politicians to join APC, a party with 3 prominent politicians that were desperate to become President, namely; Buhari, Kwankwaso and Tinubu.


How did Atiku even believed he was going to become President under APC? So he believed that after Buhari finished 8 years tenure, Southern politicians would sit idly and watch him another Northern Fulani man collect the APC ticket to continue from Buhari because Southerners are fools but he decamped from PDP he founded just because he and others believed that Jonathan wanted to cheat the North by contesting the second time instead of allowing a Northerner to fly the PDP ticket?



And as a serial miscalculator again, the same Atiku repeated the same mistake in 2023 by picking Okowa instead of Nyesome Wike as his running mate. I know he was scared of Wike's arrogant, disloyal and untrustworthy personality to avoid having a powerful disloyal Vice like he did to Obasanjo should he win, but in politics, you go for the winning first and after that you start talking about putting your house in order. Though even if Atiku has chosen Wike as running mate, that wouldn't have guaranteed him a win because Bola Tinubu did not win, he only managed to buy INEC over as a result of Buhari's indecision and indifference on what to do, so even if Atiku picked Wike as running mate, Tinubu and INEC would have still did their dirty job but Wike would have given them a tough time and a fierce opposition to give Atiku another greater chance to repeat the same ticket in 2027 with a better chance of emergence.

franchasng:
All these small small boys commenting with tribalism in their hearts.


Atiku made too many political mistakes and miscalculations out of the arrogance that he was a rich and influential Northern politician.


Atiku's first political mistake was shielding his sword after drawing it out against his own boss OBJ. In politics, once you declare war against a bigger political figure who now happens to the President, don't ever go back, finish him up and take over if not, you are gone for real if he survived your attack.


Atiku already defeated OBJ in 2003 and was on his way to becoming PDP Candidate before OBj went and knelt before Atiku begging him to allow him finish his second tenure, that he would hand over power to him. Atiku being a naive politician accepted this after humiliating his own boss, the sitting President to kneel before him, he still expected same man to hand over power to him, who does that?


That was Atiku's mistake number one. He shouldn't have listened to OBJ's pleas, he should have went ahead to seize the PDP ticket and he would have completed OBJ's tenure.

After that mistake, Atiku still didn't learn. He was romancing with Bola Tinubu that Obasanjo knew was a future political threat in Southwest, Obasanjo was removing all the Governors in Southwest to his loyalists, when it got to Lagos, Tinubu went to Afenifere, Yoruba elders and Atiku begging them to intervene on his behalf, they all begged Obasanjo, Atiku being the one in charge of the PDP rigging mercenaries spared Bola Tinubu who happened to be his secret political ally in Southwest he was hoping would help him become President in future. If Atiku had allowed Obasanjo to finish Tinubu by removing Tinubu from Lagos, there wouldn't have been a Tinubu failing President today.


Atiku being a very naive and clueless politician continued in his political miscalculations again in 2014 when he led and sponsored a Northern political revolt against Goodluck Jonathan, his biggest mistake.


After Jonathan, the next biggest politician in PDP then was Atiku Abubakar and it was clear that after Jonathan, Presidential power was returning back to the North. If power remained in PDP and Jonathan completed his tenure and power went back to the North based on PDP's unofficial zoning agreement, who else was in the position to fly PDP ticket in the North if not Atiku? But being an impatient, naive and a bit arrogant politician, Atiku led Northern politicians to join APC, a party with 3 prominent politicians that were desperate to become President, namely; Buhari, Kwankwaso and Tinubu.


How did Atiku even believed he was going to become President under APC? So he believed that after Buhari finished 8 years tenure, Southern politicians would sit idly and watch him another Northern Fulani man collect the APC ticket to continue from Buhari because Southerners are fools but he decamped from PDP he founded just because he and others believed that Jonathan wanted to cheat the North by contesting the second time instead of allowing a Northerner to fly the PDP ticket?



And as a serial miscalculator again, the same Atiku repeated the same mistake in 2023 by picking Okowa instead of Nyesome Wike as his running mate. I know he was scared of Wike's arrogant, disloyal and untrustworthy personality to avoid having a powerful disloyal Vice like he did to Obasanjo should he win, but in politics, you go for the winning first and after that you start talking about putting your house in order. Though even if Atiku has chosen Wike as running mate, that wouldn't have guaranteed him a win because Bola Tinubu did not win, he only managed to buy INEC over as a result of Buhari's indecision and indifference on what to do, so even if Atiku picked Wike as running mate, Tinubu and INEC would have still did their dirty job but Wike would have given them a tough time and a fierce opposition to give Atiku another greater chance to repeat the same ticket in 2027 with a better chance of emergence.

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Detailed analysis, which I enjoyed. Nothing is left to be said about Atiku, even if he has an unopposed chance, he would still miscalculate. Looking at your trend analysis about him, it is 💯 certain he would always micalculate.

loffyloffy:
What myopic point of view is this, Atiku that was supposed to be president after Obasanjo, instead of Yaradua, in your own estimation lost out because he didn't support Jonathan who was 2 classes behind him.

Atiku's best chances was to have been the president after Obj, if he had trusted and supported Obj, he would have been president. It was his over ambition that made Obj see him as a threat, and that was end of his opportunity

So you think a Yoruba would have supported Atiku ? 😅 If he liked the let him be licking Objs feet , only won't give him , it's like saying Tinubu will handover to Shettima ..most of you don't know anything about Nigerian politics and it's shows

SarkinYarki:
So you think a Yoruba would have supported Atiku ? 😅 If he liked the let him be licking Objs feet , only won't give him , it's like saying Tinubu will handover to Shettima ..most of you don't know anything about Nigerian politics and it's shows

You are really a Baby, Yaradua that Obasanjo projected and backed in the election, is he a Yoruba man? Is Obj not a Yoruba man any longer because he supported Yaradua.

Yaradua is from Katsina, Atiku is from Adamawa, they are both hausa/fulani, Why do you think Obasanjo backed one and not the other?

Yorubas supported Yaradua,Jonathan and Buhari or you think they did because all those Presidents were closets Yorubas?

PresidObi:
Atiku can still.be president









Of an old People's home

LMAO!

Atiku can still be president after Tinubu

Burob:
hatchet man indeed, u replaced Atiku with obasanjo to support the nonsense narrative that u just asserted?

Don’t get me wrong. Please refer to my previous postings on Nairaland, I don’t oppose President Tinubu. What I’ve done is a critical analysis of what transpired then and how Atiku made a calamitous error.

Hohaiiiode:
Atiku has nothing to offer ,he is as corrupt not even more than any other corrupt candidate, he is wasteful and above all old and frail !
He feels he stand a chance ! But unless he wishes to bury PDP finally! He should bury his chances!

And throw his support towards obi!
The only person the opposition is scared of is Peter obi! Even if there never admits it!
The only thing I don’t like about obi is his soft nature! It is who he is though! It is not easy to ask for a nature he never possesses but you must be mad and radical to win election under people like tinubu and wike !

which obi self, you people and emotional poor choice.

Pascal9:
which obi self, you people and emotional poor choice.

you either emotionally rich choice! If we compare my emotional poor choice done put me for a better place in life than you!
Get out

Hohaiiiode:
you either emotionally rich choice! If we compare my emotional poor choice done put me for a better place in life than you!
Get out

I don't think that a man that chooses obi to be president is smart and intelligent, and I don't think you have a better life

My thoughts exactly...



It would naturally have been him after Jonathan

Adblg0610:
Don’t get me wrong. Please refer to my previous postings on Nairaland, I don’t oppose President Tinubu. What I’ve done is a critical analysis of what transpired then and how Atiku made a calamitous error.

yes he made a calamitous error by allowing his Pdp machinery give Obasanjo a second term.

In anticipation that he will be endorsed after papa iyabo., it. Is that fatal error that has caused him his presidential ambition.

As general Obasanjo has sworn over his living self, that Atiku will never be president of the federal republic of Nigeria.

Hohaiiiode:
Atiku is not a smart politician, he might think so because of the opportunities that abound for stupid rich men that were able to grab power from the military!
But his moves so far were way to shortsighted with so many foolish mistakes that an average idiot won’t even make!

For example , picking okowa instead of Wike! Who does that! For what reason? In our election style?
A Wike is always a better option he will pull everything down to get the results!

Atiku would have been the president had he chosen Wike!

His opposition to good luck Jonathan was out of his desire to see Nigeria work, which we all discover later that it was a cheap gang up!

He had more more chances if good luck had finished his term ! But he is a fool as always!

Now is time to push his support for Peter obi! But I am so sure he won’t!

Pushing out GEJ was borne out of the desire to see Nigeria work u say? lol , just like saying buhari and tinubu wants to see Nigeria work no they don’t want that

Other politicians would have taken this direction aswell, I don't think he miscalculated anything at all. He's just been too greedy. He made (embessled) Soo much money which made him even more richer than his so called superiors, and they allowed him get away with all the money but take power away from.

You got the money but loose power seat. He's one of the richest Politicians today, probably the richest. You can't have both.

If he get that power, he'll redicle all politicians.

Belurved1:
Other politicians would have taken this direction aswell, I don't think he miscalculated anything at all. He's just been too greedy. He made (embessled) Soo much money which made him even more richer than his so called superiors, and they allowed him get away with all the money but take power away from.

You got the money but loose power seat. He's one of the richest Politicians today, probably the richest. You can't have both.

If he get that power, he'll redicle all politicians.

Interesting point of view.
You can have all the money but you can't have the power


Nlfpmod

lumens:
Nigerian politics like every other one requires some strategies and political calculations including alignments, defections, patience and a stroke of luck.

Alhaji Atiku Abubakar is a serial Nigerian politician. Having served as the former vice-president of the country between 1999-2007, he has been contesting for the highest office in the land since 1993.

In the build up to the 2015 election, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar led some governors out of the PDP and forged an alignment that birthed the current APC.

In my opinion, Atiku could have thrown his weight behind Goodluck Jonathan and ensured he won the 2015 election. This is what President Bola Tinubu did when he patiently waited for President Buhari to finish eight years before throwing his hat into the ring.

The gang up against President Jonathan in 2015 that ensured his defeat ended Atiku's hopes of ever becoming President of Nigeria.


Your thoughts?

Youre wrong IMO.
As at 2014, the south has been president for 13 out of 15 years in this republic. Obj 8 years and GEJ 5 years.
GEJ was actually misadvised by Edwin Clark & co, he shouldn't have run in 2015 for political fairness
And believe me, that was when most yourbas stopped believing in Political fairness in Nigeria and what you saw in 2023.
Yes Most yorubas knew it was the turn of igbos in 2023, cos as at then, yorubas has been President in Obj for 8 years and VP for 8 years in PYO
But the actions of igbos since 2014/15 is what made them not give a shit
I laugh when igbos taunt southern unity and accuse yorubas of betrayal of the southern unity because they shredded the southern unity during PDP 16 years rule, they got carried away and we're shocked to lose the election....... You killed southern unity by electing Obj, and want southern unity when you lost out of power, who Does that?
You wanna eat your cake and still have it? No way.
The real mistake AA made was not fielding PO in 2023 in my opinion

HacheNoire:
Arsenal has better chances of winning the UEFA champions league than Atiku becoming president.

It’s outrightly impossible!

One President will pity him and be asking him for advise while giving his boys some contracts here and there like Ruto is currently doing to Odinga.

Didn't Obj tell us in his book AA won't give up until death? Believe it. Cos the shaman that predicted he will be Adamawa governor also predicted he will be president one day and AA believe the mans prediction?
AA will keep trying till death do him and the presidency apart

SarkinYarki:
So you think a Yoruba would have supported Atiku ? 😅 If he liked the let him be licking Objs feet , only won't give him , it's like saying Tinubu will handover to Shettima ..most of you don't know anything about Nigerian politics and it's shows

Why can't Tinubu handover to Shettima if the APC zones presidency to the North and both are on good terms?.

lumens:
Nigerian politics like every other one requires some strategies and political calculations including alignments, defections, patience and a stroke of luck.

Alhaji Atiku Abubakar is a serial Nigerian politician. Having served as the former vice-president of the country between 1999-2007, he has been contesting for the highest office in the land since 1993.

In the build up to the 2015 election, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar led some governors out of the PDP and forged an alignment that birthed the current APC.

In my opinion, Atiku could have thrown his weight behind Goodluck Jonathan and ensured he won the 2015 election. This is what President Bola Tinubu did when he patiently waited for President Buhari to finish eight years before throwing his hat into the ring.

The gang up against President Jonathan in 2015 that ensured his defeat ended Atiku's hopes of ever becoming President of Nigeria.


Your thoughts?

You are 101% correct, Atiku has a problem, he major problem is looking down on people, he believes because he was a former VP he can't be supporting those that were mere deputy governor or governor when he was a VP.

That is the genesis of his political downfall, he should have supported GEJ in 2015, 2019 would have been his best shot, but impatient and stubbornness clouded him

Difrent:
Youre wrong IMO.
As at 2014, the south has been president for 13 out of 15 years in this republic. Obj 8 years and GEJ 5 years.
GEJ was actually misadvised by Edwin Clark & co, he shouldn't have run in 2015 for political fairness
And believe me, that was when most yourbas stopped believing in Political fairness in Nigeria and what you saw in 2023.
Yes Most yorubas knew it was the turn of igbos in 2023, cos as at then, yorubas has been President in Obj for 8 years and VP for 8 years in PYO
But the actions of igbos since 2014/15 is what made them not give a shit
I laugh when igbos taunt southern unity and accuse yorubas of betrayal of the southern unity because they shredded the southern unity during PDP 16 years rule, they got carried away and we're shocked to lose the election....... You killed southern unity by electing Obj, and want southern unity when you lost out of power, who Does that?
You wanna eat your cake and still have it? No way.
The real mistake AA made was not fielding PO in 2023 in my opinion

This one doesn't even know a pinch of Nigeria politics.

Who told you it was the turn of Igbos in 2023, Peter Obi ran away from PDP to LP when he knows he can't muscle Wike and Atiku, are you saying, A presidential candidate should fold his hand and allow his competitor to win..... nonsense, when it comes to president, every flag bearer of each political party want to win,In 2031 if North decided to try Obi again southerner will continue for 16 years straight