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Lanjonath:
Grafting with a resistant rootstock that's the only sure way to grant you 99% success anything else and you're playing with fire (speaking from experience). Other methods (Copper, Biological, Ph) you can try with cultivars that have some level of resistance but with RZ seeds that have zero resistance, if you aren't grafting, you're basically playing Russian Roulette with your investment.

To graft, you need to know how to get the right rootstock and the technical know-how to graft.

Jaywrld:
Is the rootstock expensive and how do I get it

Mrdellychy:
Lol, pls ignore him. The grafting option is not for you or are you into research and development? (Maybe those growing perennial crops may find it useful).
You should hav asked him to name just only one tomato rootstock that can be grafted and give 99% BW resistant cultivar as he claimed. Even the Almighty research and development firms like East-west seed, technisem, etc...the best they can offer is 50% (intermediate) BW resistance cultivar.

Jaywrld:
From your previous talks you must be growing rz varieties so can you explain how you manage to successfully grow them

Mrdellychy:
Lol, pls ignore him. The grafting option is not for you or are you into research and development? (Maybe those growing perennial crops may find it useful).
You should hav asked him to name just only one tomato rootstock that can be grafted and give 99% BW resistant cultivar as he claimed. Even the Almighty research and development firms like East-west seed, technisem, etc...the best they can offer is 50% (intermediate) BW resistance cultivar.

Jaywrld:
Is the rootstock expensive and how do I get it

Lanjonath:
It definitely isn't cheap because even the RZ tomatoes aren't cheap seedforth the guys that bring in RZ seeds also sell rootstock (something they won't do if they didn't have customers who were buying, but you usually have to pre-order).

But leave the farmer who's still trapped with last decades knowledge to wallow in his lack of knowledge. Because you don't see every Tom, Dick and Harry doing something doesn't mean it isn't being done. I know 3 farmers who average 3.8kg+ per plant with zero BW incidents and there's also a method that was shared by Pistota on how to crash the price of tomato rootstock completely (but you need to learn to crawl before you learn to run) and I know someone who's already doing this.

But if you decide to do Rambo or Platinum, they're also good cultivars like I said earlier.

Lanjonath:
It definitely isn't cheap because even the RZ tomatoes aren't cheap seedforth the guys that bring in RZ seeds also sell rootstock (something they won't do if they didn't have customers who were buying, but you usually have to pre-order).

But leave the farmer who's still trapped with last decades knowledge to wallow in his lack of knowledge. Because you don't see every Tom, Dick and Harry doing something doesn't mean it isn't being done. I know 3 farmers who average 3.8kg+ per plant with zero BW incidents and there's also a method that was shared by Pistota on how to crash the price of tomato rootstock completely (but you need to learn to crawl before you learn to run) and I know someone who's already doing this.

But if you decide to do Rambo or Platinum, they're also good cultivars like I said earlier.

Lanjonath:
Smh sha, ignorance is a disease. When you don't know something ask and listen those who know and have actually done it. Especially when you meet people who do things commercially.

All the primitive measures you mentioned won't work for RZ seeds, if your soil has a heavy BW resistance, been there done those years ago. They'll work with Rambo, plantinum and the likes but with RZ you'll still end up losing around 30% of your crops (which makes no sense considering the price of the seeds).

I thought you'd mention nuking the soil with sulfur then restore the beneficial organisms after, but nah you haven't even gone that far.

That said a number of serious farmers already graft their tomatoes and have abandoned the primitive 1.5kg - 2kg per plant yield.

Jaywrld:
I think i would stick with Rambo
It would make sense for a newbie like me and when I advance in knowledge I can graft or go into greenhouse farming directly which is my plan

Jaywrld:
But pls I still need to ask
Tomatoes hasn't been grown on my farm before it's only cassava two years ago it has been a virgin land since
I want to know my chances of getting a good crop out of 100%
I also fumigated the land with Neem oil prior to transplanting

Jaywrld:
I have the same thought too
Grafting is not really ideal. If you search the internet the best way to avoid BW is planting resistant varieties
I haven't tried grafting though but I don't think it would be worth it
99% success rate that's questionable
If varieties like Rambo f1 can yield 2kg per plant then it's okay with the strong resistance to bacterial wilt it possesses

Jaywrld:
I have the same thought too
Grafting is not really ideal. If you search the internet the best way to avoid BW is planting resistant varieties
I haven't tried grafting though but I don't think it would be worth it
99% success rate that's questionable
If varieties like Rambo f1 can yield 2kg per plant then it's okay with the strong resistance to bacterial wilt it possesses

Lanjonath:
It definitely isn't cheap because even the RZ tomatoes aren't cheap seedforth the guys that bring in RZ seeds also sell rootstock (something they won't do if they didn't have customers who were buying, but you usually have to pre-order).

But leave the farmer who's still trapped with last decades knowledge to wallow in his lack of knowledge. Because you don't see every Tom, Dick and Harry doing something doesn't mean it isn't being done. I know 3 farmers who average 3.8kg+ per plant with zero BW incidents and there's also a method that was shared by Pistota on how to crash the price of tomato rootstock completely (but you need to learn to crawl before you learn to run) and I know someone who's already doing this.

But if you decide to do Rambo or Platinum, they're also good cultivars like I said earlier.

emmaachile2:
There are other varieties with high yield and bw resistance like Ansal f1. You can try that variety too.

emmaachile2:
There are other varieties with high yield and bw resistance like Ansal f1. You can try that variety too.

Mrdellychy:
I do not outrightly condemn grafting, the guy is a newbie and he has already transplanted, grafting is not an option for him at that stage, I only suggested options with which he can pick from to manage his crop since he has transplanted.
I don't do grafting nor use grafted seedlings and I will never do. I have better cultivars with better yield ( even more than double the yield of what you quoted above) and I have no worry about BW.

Mrdellychy:
I do not outrightly condemn grafting, the guy is a newbie and he has already transplanted, grafting is not an option for him at that stage, I only suggested options with which he can pick from to manage his crop since he has transplanted.
I don't do grafting nor use grafted seedlings and I will never do. I have better cultivars with better yield ( even more than double the yield of what you quoted above) and I have no worry about BW.

Jaywrld:
Pls 🙏 where can I get ansal f1 seeds in Ogun state

emmaachile2:
Everything propagule has it. Call 07043202459

emmaachile2:
Everything propagule has it. Call 07043202459

emmaachile2:
Everything propagule has it. Call 07043202459

Jaywrld:
Pls 🙏 where can I get ansal f1 seeds in Ogun state

Jaywrld:
Also I want to ask if it's profitable to farm tomato in dry season (November to February)or it will better to farm something else im thinking of onions

emmaachile2:
The best crop to grow in Nigeria all year is the habanero aromatic pepper that's sold in kg.
Nothing beats them in weekly revenue.
Instead of onions, you grow garlic since it's same management but garlic is more expensive for the seedlings.

emmaachile2:
The best crop to grow in Nigeria all year is the habanero aromatic pepper that's sold in kg.
Nothing beats them in weekly revenue.
Instead of onions, you grow garlic since it's same management but garlic is more expensive for the seedlings.

emmaachile2:
The best crop to grow in Nigeria all year is the habanero aromatic pepper that's sold in kg.
Nothing beats them in weekly revenue.
Instead of onions, you grow garlic since it's same management but garlic is more expensive for the seedlings.

Jaywrld:
You mean super habanero,avenir f1 and the likes

emmaachile2:
Yes

Jaywrld:
Ok pls i have a question it is said that rz hybrid tomatoes have a shelf life of upto 21 days when properly handled.
How true is that
Any one can contribute pls

Farmerakinloye6:
I know z-force but never use it before. Am somehow addicted to(powder) saaf, which I use 50ml/16lt when they are young and 100ml/16lt when they grow old.