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Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Flexyup: 10:57pm On May 08, 2025
The word has been spoken! Those with the knowledge to understand, it is well with you. And others, critics of everything including sound or perverse doctrine over to you. Pastor kumuyi has passed a message across. Very simple yet difficult message at that.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by OLAADEGBU(op): 10:57pm On May 08, 2025
Emusan:
That's why is very important to stick to what the scripture says and not just bringing out doctrines that is based on your own opinion.
Which one out of the 23 bible doctrines preached in Deeper Life has been changed or added to?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Raxxye(m): 10:57pm On May 08, 2025
That is what we have always known. We are not ready for any change!
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by TooMuchStuff: 10:59pm On May 08, 2025
LUBBISH
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by achorladey: 11:02pm On May 08, 2025
Emusan:
That's why is very important to stick to what the scripture says and not just bringing out doctrines that is based on your own opinion.
Abi and not play God over matters that is not within their jurisdictions grin cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by lanre316: 11:05pm On May 08, 2025
KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.
You did well
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by achorladey: 11:05pm On May 08, 2025
Kobojunkie:
. The Deeper Life's problem was created by Kumuyi himself, who, for the longest, used many of these backhanded approaches to kick out those who did not adhere to his ideas and rules from the very beginning. undecided

2. Disciplinary actions? You are indeed right that this organization is nothing but a cult. You indicating that others be punished for not following the news ideas of this man, after many decades of his rejecting those same methods, is all the more reason why anyone watching needs to see it for the cult it truly is. undecided
The establishment must be protected at all cost even the recent changes are made to keep the protection of the establishment in place. They don't really made changes in face value based on what the scriptures says, changes are often made when the threat to the protective measures of the establishment are creeping in.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by achorladey: 11:07pm On May 08, 2025
oluwaseyi0:
Lol, this is what the church get when it just invent its own rules
It has to create the rules to protect the man made establishment or organization. He go collapse if rules no dey cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by achorladey: 11:09pm On May 08, 2025
Dogalmighty17:
I remember when Deeper life dedicated their new HQ in Gbagada. The sound engineer they brought was a Nigerian-American. Lady had zero f-cks to give. She left her hair open with her long attachments and wore trousers. I was surprised to be honest.

A number of these churches will be in crises in the near future. With aging GO's, nebulous plans of succession and declining populations, it will be hard to see them maintain the many branches they have around.
Loooool just like a female catholic had access to Jehovah's Witnesses elders manual that even the wife of an elder is not meant to see. grin cheesy grin

Religious men setting up religious organizations and their rules grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by saintkel(m): 11:12pm On May 08, 2025
Dogalmighty17:
I remember when Deeper life dedicated their new HQ in Gbagada. The sound engineer they brought was a Nigerian-American. Lady had zero f-cks to give. She left her hair open with her long attachments and wore trousers. I was surprised to be honest.

A number of these churches will be in crises in the near future. With aging GO's, nebulous plans of succession and declining populations, it will be hard to see them maintain the many branches they have around.
declining ke?
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by OYEDIPE(m): 11:16pm On May 08, 2025
Emusan:
That's why is very important to stick to what the scripture says and not just bringing out doctrines that is based on your own opinion.
Rightly said.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by jude5240(m): 11:17pm On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Understanding of scriptures isn't easy for imperfect humans that's why Jesus instructed his apostles that he chose to take the lead never to establish any form of teaching singlehandedly they must be at least two in number so that by the time they pray for Jesus to come and chairman the meeting he will guide them by means of God's Holy Spirit! Matthew 18:20; John 14:26-27
So a man can't form a teaching because based on his own understanding alone it will backfire. undecided
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Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Okechinwadike: 11:37pm On May 08, 2025
Criminal in disguise
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Nnamdipapa(m): 11:47pm On May 08, 2025
I have never taken Kumuyi seriously. Church and religion are a big business and control ventures
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Sirianese: 11:51pm On May 08, 2025
Ruke1991:
Those deeper life leaders problem cannot be solved by this teaching. It's somehow a mixture of hatred, unforgiveness, jealously and protectionism that makes them discipline, frustrate, blackmail and chase away their young ones who practice speaking in tongues, who are gifted in the prophetic or are are aggressively involved in leading others to engage in prayer. Those deeper life pastors have what bible calls cloak of maliciousness. What does it mean?

They envy you but will not acknowledge it is envy. They are secretly afraid that if you set up a church, they could lose followers. But they never try to understand your mission first.

Rather they look at legalistic rules within the church. They look at the church traditions to find what they can use to punish you and kill you. The best weapon is so called disciplinary actions. You could be suspended for up to one or two years in a row and while you are under suspension rumours about you being occultic, rebellious will be going round. The members in their simplistic and sanctimonious ways will start avoiding you for fear of the high handedness of their pastor not descending on them.

Deeperlife today is almost like a cult with fearful followers of high handed pastors who are not obedient to scriptures despite that they preach it. Those pastors are more about maintaining their control over the people than anything else. Or else, how do you explain their actions? Where in every location of deeper life, those who speak in tongues while leading prayer during holy ghost impartation services are considered occultic or rebels and have to serve disciplinary actions. Deeperlife is like that everywhere but the more religious members try to deny the coercion and erroneous application of disciplinary action in settling personal scores by deeper life leaders. Pastor Kumuyi, you have tried. But at this stage nothing you can do to change those pastors, not even your teachings except you discipline them anyhow the way they discipline people. That's the language they understand
It's all about power

Pentecostalism is used by the 'pastorpreneurs' to foster personality cults which enable them to extract financial, psychic and sexual resources from their captives members
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Nlandmodesfku: 11:55pm On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses totally differs from Deeperlife o!

My comparison with JW is on the basis of how strict and brutal they are about their rules. Go against their obnoxious rules and be ostracized.

A core JW friend can't even attend your wedding. He'd be punished for it.. it's a cult.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by sweetkev(m): 11:55pm On May 08, 2025
KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.
All rich Nigeria pastors are always traveling abroad for medical checks.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by sweetkev(m): 12:00am On May 09, 2025
teeteepeejay:
Christians hatee Christians. If Muslims do not exist, they all be tearing each other apart. Buh huh there is an enemy that keeps them unites at least
Hmmm
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Vision101(m): 12:27am On May 09, 2025
Hahaha.... today is Deeper Life, tomorrow is Redeemed and Living Faith. Bloggers must chop.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by jojothaiv(m): 12:38am On May 09, 2025
YoungLionken:
Many of you won't even care to read first, before commenting undecided! So many off points! Damn!!!
😂😭😭
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by honeyB2018: 12:43am On May 09, 2025
Baronthecelebri:
You're right bro,they did that to my senior pastor, I heard that he was giving a gift and he accepted it boom they suspend him.
Where did it start from,if not the head.
Those heading the ministry, should look inward for a change.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Arostar2023: 12:56am On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Jehovah's Witnesses totally differs from Deeperlife o!

I agree we with you. Only that Deeper Life is better...I have relatives that are JW members.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by SeriouslySense(m): 12:56am On May 09, 2025
I remember when i use to attend deeper life, after a while i noticed i felt oppressed and maybe confused (heavy), and i stopped attending.

But i thank God, when i opened myself first to the gospel, i began to understand the gospel, the good news, and now no church can take that away from me. smiley smiley

Thank God for the internet, you can also listen to many teachers and learn more faster. And i learn from humble teachers, who are also sound and Spirit lead.

Once you have understood the gospel and been sealed by Gods Spirit, you belong to Jesus, and no teaching of man can take that from you.

I noticed many Christains, have not really understood the gospel, which is the first thing that should be understood, they are still in ancient Isrealite mode or in a mixture of superstitions and ancient mode. smiley
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Christafarian(m): 1:10am On May 09, 2025
KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.
Are you normal ? Very stoopid talk. embarassed
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by SeriouslySense(m): 1:14am On May 09, 2025
He almost slapped his mother. grin, that is quite extreme. What do i know.

I can never do that to my parents, even if they are wrong, i will treat them in gentleness and maybe try to explain, and if they dont get it, just help the sister to the Hospital.

Christafarian:
Are you normal ? Very stoopid talk. embarassed
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Diligence: 1:39am On May 09, 2025
Dogalmighty17:
I remember when Deeper life dedicated their new HQ in Gbagada. The sound engineer they brought was a Nigerian-American. Lady had zero f-cks to give. She left her hair open with her long attachments and wore trousers. I was surprised to be honest.

A number of these churches will be in crises in the near future. With aging GO's, nebulous plans of succession and declining populations, it will be hard to see them maintain the many branches they have around.
I remember that lady. I saw the pic. From another Perspective, how could a lady who knows or has heard the church she's going to do some assignments ADVERTENTLY display such crass stupidity. I mean she wouldn't dare if it's a mosque or if her primary point of assignment was in Saudi Arabia
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by UCHDR: 3:32am On May 09, 2025
Deeper Life is truly a great place to worship. It's a ministry known for transparency, with nothing hidden. You’re taught the undiluted Word of God directly. Whether you choose to stay, move on, start your own ministry, or join another, you’ll leave spiritually enriched. Many ministers in Nigeria today have passed through Deeper Life at some point in their journey. While the doctrine may not be perfect—as no church is—it remains rooted in the sincere desire to uphold biblical truth
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by Originalsly: 3:46am On May 09, 2025
Ruke1991:
Those deeper life leaders problem cannot be solved by this teaching. It's somehow a mixture of hatred, unforgiveness, jealously and protectionism that makes them discipline, frustrate, blackmail and chase away their young ones who practice speaking in tongues,

how do you explain their actions? Where in every location of deeper life, those who speak in tongues while leading prayer during holy ghost impartation services are considered occultic or rebels and have to serve disciplinary actions.
Seems to me your problem with the church is the pastors do not allow you to speak in tongues. Is it not Biblical that when you get up to speak in tongues there must be someone to interpret what you're saying? ... and if there's no one to interpret you should basically sit your ass down and shut up? What you want to do is not Scriptural. They're not allowing you to pollute the air with your gibberish so you have a problem. Aren't you free to form your own church? I don't agree with their disciplinary measures but fully agree with them shutting down the noise. Yes...you may be filled with the spirit ...but which spirit? ... maybe that of the evil one.
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by efemena5050(m): 4:15am On May 09, 2025
PovertySlayer:
Kumuyi go explain tire. All of a sudden, you want to change the doctrine. I believe his pastors are right to protest because any change would mean he has been lying to them all along.
Don't mind him
.year 1996 I remember we were instructed not to put television in our houses .today baba dey use satellite transmitter to televise his preaching.now the leaders don cement themselves to his archaic nd medieval preaching nd instructions now baba wants change........most pastors exalt themselves not God......
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by LincolnOnyeabor: 4:21am On May 09, 2025
KnowledgePower7:
I thank God i almost slapped my mother and pushed her away because of her religious STUPIDITY

It baffles me how people blindly follow man-made doctrines like a cult and call it Christianity..

My younger sis was having rigos fever.
This woman placed Chosen vest on her instead of rushing her to hospital.
I arrived home and was shocked to see my sis shaking with Chosen vest placed on her.
I yelled at mumsi for not rushing her to hospital
She said she was waiting for pastor to come and pray for her.

Omo i grab my sister and booked keke. My mum tried to talk me out of it and i almost slapped her.

The way Religion make women lose their senses is incredible.
If i didnt visit home that day God forbid my young sis woukd have died.

I don give her serious warning not to carry her mumu church brain and kill her child...

I love my mother,
But i will not sit and watch her destroy our family because of one pastor.
Wish I could like this a million times! grin grin grin
Re: Pastor Kumuyi Blasts Rigid Members Over Changes To His Teachings & Events by efemena5050(m): 4:25am On May 09, 2025
OLAADEGBU:
Which one out of the 23 bible doctrines preached in Deeper Life has been changed or added to?
u just quote people without even trying to understand their perspectives.....some Nigerians with IQ problems na wa .....the person u quoted was actually making reference to kumuyi self thought preaching self thought laid down guidelines over the years as against the instructions and reviews of the bible.....


Over the years deeper life church operated under a deep resented moral bound self style of non inclusiveness as against christ life of hospitality and accomodations regardless of ur filth .....the deeper life church formulated a policy of baised against people they perceive as unbelievers and sinners ....today deeper life can comfortably invite artist outside their faith to come minister in their church......


Kumuyi is actually regretting his self medicated indoctrination hence the reason behind his preaching about his church leaders not wanting to embrace modernisation and accomodations of all asundries
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