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Truthseeker10:
😂😂So Jesus is the one in Genesis 17:1?

In my version of Christianity we only have one God. How many are in yours?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂You can't know better Even with the bible in your hand? Did you ever ask the pope where Jesus said he was equal with God?

Before we continue, Google the meaning of "analogy" then get back to me. The pope has nothing to do with the discussion

QuinQ:
Before we continue, Google the meaning of "analogy" then get back to me. The pope has nothing to do with the discussion

😂😂You are absolving the pope now? Are you saying that the pope does not teach that Jesus is equal with God?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂You can't know better Even with the bible in your hand? Did you ever ask the pope where Jesus said he was equal with God?

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's like those in the Vatican telling you what the new pope said and you're telling them they're wrong because you read it in Nigerian Tribune!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

QuinQ:
In my version of Christianity we only have one God. How many are in yours?

If Jesus is the one God that is the Almighty God, explain John 14:28.

QuinQ:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 it's like those in the Vatican telling you what the new pope said and you're telling them they're wrong because you read it in Nigerian Tribune!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂😂The bible is the Nigerian tribune now?😂

Truthseeker10:
If Jesus is the one God that is the Almighty God, explain John 14:28.

I already told you man lacks the capacity to fully grasp God.
But you can look at it this way:
The highest peak of Mount Everest is greater than all other of it's peaks, yet they are all same ONE mount Everest.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂The bible is the Nigerian tribune now?😂

Our man has no sense of analogy. He takes everything literally🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

QuinQ:
I already told you man lacks the capacity to fully grasp God.
But you can look at it this way:
The highest peak of Mount Everest is greater than all other of it's peaks, yet they are all same ONE mount Everest.

Your reply above has nothing to do with the question. Are you saying that we cannot know If Jesus is the Almighty God in Genesis 17:1?

QuinQ:
Our man has no sense of analogy. He takes everything literally🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂😂😂are you saying that the bible does not represent the Nigerian tribune in your analogy?

Truthseeker10:
Your reply above has nothing to do with the question. Are you saying that we cannot know If Jesus is the Almighty God in Genesis 17:1?

Genesis 1:26 refers to (Almighty) God yet it is plural

Truthseeker10:
So from your explanation Jesus had to make his human will to conform to his own divine will? So Jesus had two conflicting will within himself while he was on earth?

Yes—but not because the two were in sinful conflict, like we often experience. Rather, Jesus had a real human will that, though unfallen, still had to freely choose obedience in the face of real suffering, fear, and pain.

His divine will is eternal, unchanging, and always aligned with the Father and the Spirit.

His human will, by nature, could feel the natural aversion to pain or death (e.g., in Gethsemane), but it was never rebellious or sinful.

So, when Jesus said “Not my will, but yours be done” (Luke 22:42), He was freely aligning His human will to the divine will—which was also His own as God the Son.

Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂are you saying that the bible does not represent the Nigerian tribune in your analogy?

You the one said the Bible is the Nigerian Tribune🤣😂
Since you're incapable of analogy, let's put it another way: you say people who heard from the pope are wrong because you read what he said somewhere 1000's of miles away in a different language

QuinQ:
You the one said the Bible is the Nigerian Tribune🤣😂
Since you're incapable of analogy, let's put it another way: you say people who heard from the pope are wrong because you read what he said somewhere 1000's of miles away in a different language

Truthseeker is just pulling your legs. He doesn't have anything useful to add. The other guy, gohf, doesn't have a point. All his premises can be destroyed if you ask him to define what a "God" should be🤕.

All these anti-Christs pretending to be christians but negate the very fact of scripture that Jesus is God! Also, My use of nairaland has been greatly hampered by the bot, which seems to target me with reckless abandon👀— which delayed my response to this thread, irrespective let's see if this message stands or gets me banned😁.

Gabrielshow24:
Truthseeker is just pulling your legs. He doesn't have anything useful to add. The other guy, gohf, doesn't have a point. All his premises can be destroyed if you ask him to define what a "God" should be🤕.

All these anti-Christs pretending to be christians but negate the very fact of scripture that Jesus is God! Also, My use of nairaland has been greatly hampered by the bot, which seems to target me with reckless abandon👀— which delayed my response to this thread, irrespective let's see if this message stands or gets me banned😁.

You mean truthseeker10
I think it is a combination of overthinking and brainwashing. If you just relax you'd instinctively know that Jesus is NOT like Moses or anyone else.
Maxindhouse has admitted He is divine but still has to pay lip service to JW teaching He was like Moses. The rest will also admit it to themselves if not publicly. Jesus is simply one with God, the rest were not. Simple. You just know it.
That bot is something else. Banned me for an hour yesterday

QuinQ:
You mean truthseeker10
I think it is a combination of overthinking and brainwashing. If you just relax you'd instinctively know that Jesus is NOT like Moses or anyone else.
Maxindhouse has admitted He is divine but still has to pay lip service to JW teaching He was like Moses. The rest will also admit it to themselves if not publicly. Jesus is simply one with God, the rest were not. Simple. You just know it.
That bot is something else. Banned me for an hour yesterday

It's not overthinking, it's complete brainwashing 🤔. Both JW guys have the intellect of toddlers, now that I think of it, that's an insult to Toddlers🤔. Truthseeker10 appears wise by using Aristotelian inquisition techniques but ends up foolish in its delivery 🤕. What then is the point?

The other guy, gohf just like to stick to his personal biased view of Jesus 'not being God' yet he can't provide a definition of God that doesn't fit Jesus within 🤨, dilemma!

Don't bother about them, they have eyes they can't see and their minds are devoid of wisdom 🤨.

QuinQ:
Maxindhouse has admitted He is divine

The problem with you people is thinking whoever keeps quiet while you're talking has been convinced of what you said but most just remain silent to allow you take your leave.
Conviction lies in the fruit of a teaching. Matthew 7:16-18
Jesus is one of God's creations but he is always in support of God's will that's why he said himself and his father are one just as all his disciples with himself and his father are one! John 17:22

QuinQ:
You the one said the Bible is the Nigerian Tribune🤣😂
Since you're incapable of analogy, let's put it another way: you say people who heard from the pope are wrong because you read what he said somewhere 1000's of miles away in a different language

😂😂oga what are you saying?

Thankgod89:
Yes—but not because the two were in sinful conflict, like we often experience. Rather, Jesus had a real human will that, though unfallen, still had to freely choose obedience in the face of real suffering, fear, and pain.

His divine will is eternal, unchanging, and always aligned with the Father and the Spirit.

His human will, by nature, could feel the natural aversion to pain or death (e.g., in Gethsemane), but it was never rebellious or sinful.

So, when Jesus said “Not my will, but yours be done” (Luke 22:42), He was freely aligning His human will to the divine will—which was also His own as God the Son.

Did Jesus ever claim that his human will was subjected to his own divine will?

QuinQ:
Genesis 1:26 refers to (Almighty) God yet it is plural

plural in what sense?

Gabrielshow24:
It's not overthinking, it's complete brainwashing 🤔. Both JW guys have the intellect of toddlers, now that I think of it, that's an insult to Toddlers🤔. Truthseeker10 appears wise by using Aristotelian inquisition techniques but ends up foolish in its delivery 🤕. What then is the point?

The other guy, gohf just like to stick to his personal biased view of Jesus 'not being God' yet he can't provide a definition of God that doesn't fit Jesus within 🤨, dilemma!

Don't bother about them, they have eyes they can't see and their minds are devoid of wisdom 🤨.

I was just banned again by anti-bot. I'm beginning to think it is intentional - to prevent people posting too much.
You analyzed it well

MaxInDHouse:
The problem with you people is thinking whoever keeps quiet while you're talking has been convinced of what you said but most just remain silent to allow you take your leave.
Conviction lies in the fruit of a teaching. Matthew 7:16-18
Jesus is one of God's creations but he is always in support of God's will that's why he said himself and his father are one just as all his disciples with himself and his father are one! John 17:22

Is this not what you said exactly: "God's Son which makes him divine"?
Or are you changing your mind again?

Truthseeker10:
😂😂oga what are you saying?

I'm saying pepple who saw and heard Jesus directly will know what he meant better than someone reading it in a different language 1000's of years later after multiple interpretations and manipulatons

QuinQ:
I'm saying pepple who saw and heard Jesus directly will know what he meant better than someone reading it in a different language 1000's of years later after multiple interpretations and manipulatons

Oga where did Jesus himself say what they implied? You are telling me to believe the same people who accused Jesus wrongly to the point of killing him?

Truthseeker10:
Oga where did Jesus himself say what they implied? You are telling me to believe the same people who accused Jesus wrongly to the point of killing him?

OK, it's settled, Jesus never implied He was one with God. He said he was just like Moses, Elijah, and others. Happy now?

QuinQ:
OK, it's settled, Jesus never implied He was one with God. He said he was just like Moses, Elijah, and others. Happy now?

😂😂Jesus was one with God meant that he was equal to God?

Truthseeker10:
plural in what sense?

"Let US make man in OUR image"

Truthseeker10:
😂😂Jesus was one with God meant that he was equal to God?

🤣😅🤣😅 No, it meant He was same as Moses

QuinQ:
"Let US make man in OUR image"

What is the Hebrew word for God in Genesis 1:26. In 1 Samuel 1:7, Why was plural used for Dagon.

QuinQ:
Is this not what you said exactly: "God's Son which makes him divine"?
Or are you changing your mind again?

What they thought nah!

Truthseeker10:
What is the Hebrew word for God in Genesis 1:26. In 1 Samuel 1:7, Why was plural used for Dagon.

Why not tell us since you're one human who fully understands the nature of God

Truthseeker10:
Oga where did Jesus himself say what they implied? You are telling me to believe the same people who accused Jesus wrongly to the point of killing him?

Na wah for them o, i should believe those who accused and killed Jesus based on false accusations!