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BlueRayDick:
You are not saying anything new that we don’t know or that I have not addressed up there .

There’s a reason people are advised to go for courses they identify as their comfort zone .

I once mentioned it here that I was placed in the sciences in SS1 off my JSCE result which was actually the best in the whole school . But because I don’t feel any real passion for the sciences , I took it upon myself to have me reassigned to commercial class .

I could as well have gone to the sciences , struggle like most students do, pass WAEC after 2 or 3 attempts , get into the university to study a course , struggle with my grades , have sleepless nights , graduate with an average grade and then join the hordes of people shouting “ science is hard “ .


If u are cut for science do it, if u are cut for art or sciences , do it as well. But don’t sit in one corner and be running mouth on other people’s choice of career/study path u have not walked in. E no gel at all

I don't think it's necessarily this, afterall science students did art and social science subjects to a certain point, and even took a few as electives in University. It's an objective assessment of the different fields based off their experience, maybe sometimes it comes off as running it down, but the crux of the argument is some fields are more difficult than others.

You're probably right that people should do what they find easy and relatable, but then again, some persons elect to challenge themselves, sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't.

BlueRayDick:
Basil Egbeli graduated with 4.91/5.00 CGPA from UNIBEN bagging a first class in Physics .

If he didn’t find it easy , how did he make that CGPA ? Say something hard u to do no mean say e go hard others o.

My guy relax . People like that won’t tell u they find it easy because they don’t want to make other students think less of themselves , but trust me it was easy for him.

A boy called Chukwudi in my sec school was teaching his physics teacher physics. Scored 100/100 in exam and continuous assessment throughout and ended up scoring 98/100 in physics utme.

His side hustle was writing post utme for people across states.

BlueRayDick:
If u sabi book , u sabi book. It has nothing to do with art ,science or commercial .

I won’t smash government in JAMB if u don’t study for it. Make una no Dey gas una sef up abeg . Neither will u smash economics .

A smart Science student without studying take Government or History in JAMB

A smart Art student without any studying takes Physics or Chemistry in JAMB

What do you think both will score?

Its almost certain that smart Art student will score 0 or below 5% in Physics because there is nowhere else besides a Physics or Chemistry textbook or lecture you will ever hear of things they are talking about

While the smart science student from news and general knowledge will know some things in a Govt or History exam

afrodoc2:
BlueRayDick the defender of non-STEM.

I recently realized that Biology is very simple and I could have been a doctor if laziness didn’t stop me from keeping up with writing lengthy notes.

swiz123:
I recently realized that Biology is very simple and I could have been a doctor if laziness didn’t stop me from keeping up with writing lengthy notes.

So, what did you study?

BlueRayDiick:
Semid4lyfe epp me check o, dem don knack me apako

Post unblocked.

swiz123:
A boy called Chukwudi in my sec school was teaching his physics teacher physics. Scored 100/100 in exam and continuous assessment throughout and ended up scoring 98/100 in physics utme.

His side hustle was writing post utme for people across states.

The thing about intelligence be say, where your own take end, na where another person own take start.

It reminds me of the story of Jeff Bezos, and when he realized that he'd never be truly elite as a theoritical physicists when a problem that had taken him and some other of his friend a few days to crack, without solving, some of his other friend provided the solution and these where Physicists in Princeton.

swiz123:
I recently realized that Biology is very simple and I could have been a doctor if laziness didn’t stop me from keeping up with writing lengthy notes.

In my time, I believed that knowing Maths and calculation is the test of being smart

Reading lengthy notes is a test of endurance. Many of us don't have the patience to read long texts without getting distracted

In science class na the girls wey no go too like Maths dey plenty for Medicine and Pharmacy

Plus growing up doctors in Naija no dey make money like that, they are usually portrayed mostly civil servants working in state hospitals while Engineers are those who worked in Shell and co

It was bad that some medical graduates were seeking jobs in banks

If to say I know that later in life especially for Yankee medical doctors go be Odogwu i for develop myself to the resilience to read and have a longer attention span for long texts

BlueRayDick:
People no wan gree say as people Dey fail STEM , na so people dey pass STEM with excellent grades.

It is the same in non-STEM too.

Make everybody do wetin favor them and make dem chop from the fruit of their labor .

Make person wey fest struggle to pass STEM no Dey talk say he go pass non-STEM exam he never prepare for before . E no Dey work that way .

But this isn't the argument sha, it's like saying because you're seeing a Maguire or Antony flop on TV it means they're not like top 1% of footballers globally.

raumdeuter:
A smart Science student without studying take Government or History in JAMB

A smart Art student without any studying takes Physics or Chemistry in JAMB

What do you think both will score?

Its almost certain that smart Art student will score 0 or below 5% in Physics because there is nowhere else besides a Physics or Chemistry textbook or lecture you will ever hear of things they are talking about

While the smart science student from news and general knowledge will know some things in a Govt or History exam

I had a hostel neighbor and classmate in Uni who used to do mercenary work for Government students in GCE and JAMB. With little or no study this guy was getting them good scores.

Theflint1:
I don't think it's necessarily this, afterall science students did art and social science subjects to a certain point, and even took a few as electives in University. It's an objective assessment of the different fields based off their experience, maybe sometimes it comes off as running it down, but the crux of the argument is some fields are more difficult than others.

You're probably right that people should do what they find easy and relatable, but then again, some persons elect to challenge themselves, sometimes it works out, and sometimes it doesn't.

I guess we can also say because we did integrated science , biology , intro tech , etc ; the social science students can also claim they would do well in biological sciences , medical sciences etc Shebi?

raumdeuter:
A smart Science student without studying take Government or History in JAMB

A smart Art student without any studying takes Physics or Chemistry in JAMB

What do you think both will score?

Its almost certain that smart Art student will score 0 or below 5% in Physics because there is nowhere else besides a Physics or Chemistry textbook or lecture you will ever hear of things they are talking about

While the smart science student from news and general knowledge will know some things in a Govt or History exam

No social science student claim he will best a science student in his subject of preference , it is actually the other way round .

I only objected to Ihebu claiming he will care government with 80% grade . I dropped few questions here and he admitted he was wrong .

Simple ! Case closed

BlueRayDiick:
No social science student claim he will best a science student in his subject of preference , it is actually the other way round .

I only objected to Ihebu claiming he will care government with 80% grade . I dropped few questions here and he admitted he was wrong .

Simple ! Case closed

He might not get 80% but will score more than a core Art graduates trying to take physics or chemistry

BlueRayDiick:
I guess we can also say because we did integrated science , biology , intro tech , etc ; the social science students can also claim they would do well in biological sciences , medical sciences etc Shebi?

Did it and did well, or just did it?

Na that Intro Tech people dey first use know say whether dem go do science or not, and after SS1 when they meet Physics and Chemistry they'd come to that decision finally. You can still wing integrated science, it was just a notch more complex than basic science that's very relatable, science inclined or not.

Even within domains where there's a higher degree of proximity between the courses, some courses are more difficult than others. For example, accounting grad no go dey talk say e course hard make business admin grad follow put mouth. Or in Sciences, a biochem grad would be saying their course was hard, and a botany or microbiology grad is putting mouth inside, or Chemistry grad put mouth inside pure Mathematics grad talk

raumdeuter:
A smart Science student without studying take Government or History in JAMB

A smart Art student without any studying takes Physics or Chemistry in JAMB

What do you think both will score?

Its almost certain that smart Art student will score 0 or below 5% in Physics because there is nowhere else besides a Physics or Chemistry textbook or lecture you will ever hear of things they are talking about

While the smart science student from news and general knowledge will know some things in a Govt or History exam

Statistics calls BS on this

Since we are dealing with multiple choice questions, The law of probability puts him around 25%

Theflint1:
Did it and did well, or just did it?

Na that Intro Tech people dey first use know say whether dem go do science or not, and after SS1 when they meet Physics and Chemistry they'd come to that decision finally. You can still wing integrated science, it was just a notch more complex than basic science that's very relatable, science inclined or not.

Even within domains where there's a higher degree of proximity between the courses, some courses are more difficult than others. For example, accounting grad no go dey talk say e course hard make business admin grad follow put mouth. Or in Sciences, a biochem grad would be saying their course was hard, and a botany or microbiology grad is putting mouth inside, or Chemistry grad put mouth inside pure Mathematics grad talk

The same applies to Ihebu . I have proven that he won’t pass Government the way he assumed earlier which he acknowledged .

U are only making my point for me. Nobody should sit and be assuming they will pass subjects in other people’s field because it feels funky to do so.

User09:


Statistics calls BS on this

Since we are dealing with multiple choice questions, The law of probability puts him around 25%

No multiple choice show workings

raumdeuter:
No multiple choice show workings

So if someone asks u to “discuss McPherson constitution as regards the major changes it brought into governance in Nigeria , elective positions and merits of the introduction of McPherson constitution”. You somehow think u will be able to answer the question and score 10 out of possible 20 marks without properly reading it up ?

Just Dey play !

BlueRayDick:
So if someone asks u to “discuss McPherson constitution as regards the major changes it brought into governance in Nigeria , elective positions and merits of the introduction of McPherson constitution”. You somehow think u will be able to answer the question and score 10 out of possible 20 marks without properly reading it up ?

Just Dey play !

I can write using Logic and get 6 out of 20, but you can't even attempt that in physics.

afrodoc2:
I had a hostel neighbor and classmate in Uni who used to do mercenary work for Government students in GCE and JAMB. With little or no study this guy was getting them good scores.

Practice.

Imagine writing the same exam on similar topics/curriculum repeatedly. It becomes natural at some point

Ihebu4chelsea:
I can write using Logic and get 6 out of 20, but you can't even attempt that in physics.

Which yeye logic ? 😂

And 6 over 20 is u scoring 30% which is failure in any field u find urself

BlueRayDick:
So if someone asks u to “discuss McPherson constitution as regards the major changes it brought into governance in Nigeria , elective positions and merits of the introduction of McPherson constitution”. You somehow think u will be able to answer the question and score 10 out of possible 20 marks without properly reading it up ?

Just Dey play !

Well, this isnt the best of example.

You have merits, and you have constitution.

A smart student will probably just use logic there and write down any advantages he can think of - of a constitution

BlueRayDick:
Which yeye logic ? 😂

And 6 over 20 is u scoring 30% which is failure in any field u find urself

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I believe you don't even understand or know where to start

User09:
Well, this isnt the best of example.

You have merits, and you have constitution.

A smart student will probably just use logic there and write down any advantages he can think of - of a constitution

Lolz .😂

These are stand alone topics in WAEC and JAMB syllabus. Those constitutions are taught in relation to their specific features , what they introduced into governance in Nigeria , what was considered as their Merits and demerits and reason what issues the constitution introduced after it addressed .

You will fail woefully listing generic merits and demerits a constitution. That is when u will know the so called smart students is actually not smart

Ihebu4chelsea:
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I never claimed I will ace a science course without proper planning and preparation . You were the one who claimed u will do what u couldn’t .

If I intend to take a science exam , I will take my time to take lessons on the fundamentals , do hours of study and practice questions . I won’t just wake one Saturday morning and claim I will do the unthinkable .


That’s why we are different . I am very rational
In my approach to these things

BlueRayDick:
I never claimed I will ace a science course without proper planning and preparation . You were the one who claimed u will do what u couldn’t .

If I intend to take a science exam , I will take my time to take lessons on the fundamentals , do hours of study and practice questions . I won’t just wake one Saturday morning and claim I will do the unthinkable .


That’s why we are different . I am very rational
In my approach to these things

For a person that's fairly good at cramming, using only course materials, they'd be ready for your McPherson problem in 24/48 hrs max...there's no amount of cramming and ChatGPT that'd prepare you for that ihebu's problem in even one week, and that is why course A is more difficult than course B.

Theflint1:
For a person that's very good at cramming, they'd be ready for your McPherson problem in 24/48 hrs max...there's no amount of cramming and ChatGPT that'd prepare you for that ihebu's problem in even one week, and that is why course A is more difficult than course B.

You are creating a totally different narrative from what Ihebu said . His post is still up there for u to check .

If he had said he would prepare for the exam whether through cramming or reading to understand , that would’ve been a totally different discussion .

Please stop trying to invent a different narrative from what is being discussed . He boastfully said he will ace an exam he didn’t study for . Make una no Dey change mouth na

About Jamb, Maybe there needs to be a lot more transparency around their marking processes/guide.

All the negative marking and deductions bla bla bla doesnt even make sense to me for a secondary school exam.

I remember some years back, I wrote an exam and then thinking I was really going to blast it, only to see my results fall in the upper quartile

It was then I took it upon myself to research out of curiosity - which was when I found out, they actually used the modified angoff method for marking/setting cutoff.

This was actually useful information which I should have known before writing it and was a failure on my part, - Considering how I would have known how and where to focus/prioritize my efforts.

Has there even been any Jamb examiners in recent time that can help with this transparency. Knowledge of the material is really not enough sometimes to really really ace these things. Remember that fine margins are really important here especially for people wanting to study the very in-demand courses

User09:
Practice.

Imagine writing the same exam on similar topics/curriculum repeatedly. It becomes natural at some point

They came to him the second time because he smashed the very first time. He never did Government in secondary school. The reason the guy even accepted the job in the first place is because they were women and some of them looked up to him as a mentor.

BlueRayDick:
You are creating a totally different narrative from what Ihebu said . His post is still up there for u to check .

If he had said he would prepare for the exam whether through cramming or reading to understand , that would’ve been a totally different discussion .

Please stop trying to invent a different narrative from what is being discussed . He boastfully said he will ace an exam he didn’t study for . Make una no Dey change mouth na

So your point is, while you agree that science courses are on average more difficult than social science/management courses, you don't think Ihebu would ace social science/management courses without preparation?