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QuinQ:
Can you please tell us if someone can be your son without having your nature (in case.of God, divine nature)? Or be your son and be just a servant?
Thanks in advance

Sorry, i hate arguing aimlessly when the scriptures has spoken! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

QuinQ:
😅 This is beyond RIDICULOUS! Brainwashing is really an amazing thing! Because someone translated Exodus 7:1 as "I have made you LIKE god over Pharoah" that equates to all the places all over the Bible Jesus is acknowledged as God the son of God. AMAZING!
Oga, Emmanuel - God Himself (God the son) came and dwelt amongst men for a bit. No one was like Him before that, and no one can ever be like Him ever again.
You see brainwashing eh, no be small thing!

The person who is trying to equate Moses with Jesus already claimed that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD which means Jesus is the ONLY ONE directly created by God Himself.

Then ask yourself how can Jesus whom Jehovah Himself created directly can have equal or be like Moses?

Then you'll know where the confusion is coming from.

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry, i hate arguing aimlessly when the scriptures has spoken! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

When he gets caught

You've joined this thread from page 1 till page 6, it's now you think you don't argue aimlessly

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry, i hate arguing aimlessly when the scriptures has spoken! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

I take it you can't.
So we agree, Jesus has divine nature (God) and is not a servant.
At least we agree on something. Happy Sunday

QuinQ:
I take it you can't.
So we agree, Jesus has divine nature (God) and is not a servant.
At least we agree on something. Happy Sunday

If only you can delete where it's written in the Bible that Jesus is a SERVANT of God! Act 3:13

Thanks for your time!

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you quote where highlighted is found written in the Bible?
Thanks in advance!

I John 5:7 there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The concluding part said these three are one making the three same Ie God. If you have arguments about who the word is it is jesus who was made flesh and dwelt among men refer back to John 1:1-3, 12-14 and educate yourself on that

Verse 6 below says Jesus being (not was) in the form of God. He existed as God before he submitted to take human form. being is present continuous tense

The later part said God has exalted him and given him a name that all things in heaven (that includes angels) and things on earth (that includes Jehovah witness members) and things under the earth (that includes demons or any other creatures) must bow to the name of the resurrected Jesus. Not only that All things (including Jehovah witness members) must confess that Jesus is their Lord to the glory of the father. Any body who fails to comply, to bow in worship of Christ dishonors the father and does not glorify the father (especially Jehovah witnesses members - they dishonor the father)

Philippians 2: 5-7 says
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

gohf:
you said it is a fact of scripture, well tell us where God said Jesus is God or that the Christ is God? That's if you know what scripture is and what the Christ means.

You have it written plainly in John 1:1 "...and the Word was God"

Ruke1991:
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The concluding part said these three are one making the three same Ie God. If you have arguments about who the word is it is jesus who was made flesh and dwelt among men refer back to John 1:1-3, 12-14 and educate yourself on that

Verse 6 below says Jesus being (not was) in the form of God. He existed as God before he submitted to take human form. being is present continuous tense

The later part said God has exalted him and given him a name that all things in heaven (that includes angels) and things on earth (that includes Jehovah witness members) and things under the earth (that includes demons or any other creatures) must bow to the name of the resurrected Jesus. Not only that All things (including Jehovah witness members) must confess that Jesus is their Lord to the glory of the father. Any body who fails to comply, to bow in worship of Christ dishonors the father and does not glorify the father (especially Jehovah witnesses members - they dishonor the father)

Philippians 2: 5-7 says
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Please i don't need an epistle all i asked for is a verse where it's written
"God the son"

That's all!

MaxInDHouse:
If only you can delete where it's written in the Bible that Jesus is a SERVANT of God! Act 3:13

Thanks for your time!

No need to.
It is overridden by the countless places He's called the SON. That's how the Bible is. That's why you don't cherrypick. Thanks 4 your time!

MaxInDHouse:
Please i don't need an epistle all i asked for is a verse where it's written
"God the son"

That's all!

do you know where they wrote jesus is moses or jesus is angel Michael as you earlier said? Just give us the direct scripture verse

Ruke1991:
So what's the meaning of Hezekiah? Which of those seven names is associated with Hezekiah?

The greatness of Hezekiah empire, reign and peace has ended long ago. Yet the verse said the dominion will never end

Is Hezekiah the mighty God? Is it safe in Jehovah witness to call men such as Moses and Hezekiah a God or the mighty God, but an offence to call Jesus God?

Do you even know the meaning of prophecy? A man who tells stories of what has already happened is not a prophet? This kingdom hall perspective will stripe off the prophet title from Isaiah. It will make him a mere story writer but not prophet

Read the very next verse and see if it applies to j.man.
No need to argue, read the entire chapter and see if you can find j.man there. You can't just read one verse and run away with it thinking you have found the truth. Read the entire chapter to grasp the message he was passing. Moreover, Isaiah did not add any verse.

Did you even see the attached screenshot?

QuinQ:
No need to.
It is overridden by the countless places He's called the SON. That's how the Bible is. That's why you don't cherrypick. Thanks 4 your time!

Nothing overrides another in God's word each title is spelt out:

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i know you have been taught several dogmas in your religion but now is the time to face reality as found in the Bible.

*Jesus is a servant of God according to the Bible because he was SENT by God. Act 3:26

*Jesus is the only begotten Son of God according to the Bible because he is the only creature God created alone. Proverbs 8:22-30, Colossians 1:15-16

*Jesus was God according to the Bible because he was given the privilege to act as God just like Moses was also given the same privilege. Exodus 7:1

So you need to unlearn and relearn to have the accurate knowledge of God's word that's not based on dogmas!

Ruke1991:
do you know where they wrote jesus is moses or jesus is angel Michael as you earlier said? Just give us the direct scripture verse

That's the doctrine of an organization so you are free to accept or decline not to be imposed on anyone, i believe Jesus is Archangel Michael based on my understanding of the scriptures i only teach whoever wish to learn from me.

MaxInDHouse:
Nothing overrides another in God's word each title is spelt out:

So educate us, is SON same as SERVANT?
Also see this below about Moses

Emusan:
The person who is trying to equate Moses with Jesus already claimed that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD which means Jesus is the ONLY ONE directly created by God Himself.

Then ask yourself how can Jesus whom Jehovah Himself created directly can have equal or be like Moses?

Then you'll know where the confusion is coming from.

QuinQ:
No sir, I already said humans lack the capacity to fully grasp the nature of God - except you. So go ahead and teach us

You should teach us. I told younthat The bible mentions an Almighty God. You claimed it was my language. So please teach us.

QuinQ:
U quite welcome. He was EXACTLY same as Moses except that he was sinless and interchangeable with God

You claimed Jesus was God. So was he interchangeable with himself?

If Jesus is not a servant, then Isaiah 53 is not about him. Isaiah 53 is about a suffering servant...so you lot should stop quoting it.
Thank you

MaxInDHouse:
He was a spirit being like God the same nature of angels.

The construction won't support that. The WAS in that scripture shows existence of the son prior to the beginning. Obviously something more than spirit. And the grammatical setting shows that what God's nature is, the Son is.

MaxInDHouse:
That's the doctrine of an organization

It's good as you acknowledge that it's the doctrine of an organization and not BIBLICAL DOCTRINE.

so you are free to accept or decline not to be imposed on anyone

So, who is imposing "Jesus is God" on you?

i believe Jesus is Archangel Michael based on my understanding of the scriptures i only teach whoever wish to learn from me.

And that's how millions believe that Jesus is God Almighty based on their own understanding of the scripture.

You can't even teach anything base on your own UNDERSTANDING, you only believe what your gods in Warwick made you to believe.

Stop that lie.

Truthseeker10:
You should teach us. I told younthat The bible mentions an Almighty God. You claimed it was my language. So please teach us.

OK, I'll teach. So sit respectfully and learn:
Adding "almighty" to God does not change God

Truthseeker10:
You claimed Jesus was God. So was he interchangeable with himself?

He is God same way your son has your nature but not you. He is divine but not the Father

QuinQ:
So educate us, is SON same as SERVANT? Also see this below about Moses.

What did the Bible teach?

Sand2022:
The construction won't support that. The WAS in that scripture shows existence of the son prior to the beginning. Obviously something more than spirit. And the grammatical setting shows that what God's nature is, the Son is.

"In the beginning" says God's word {John 1:1} that shows someone has a beginning definitely not the Almighty God!

Emusan:
It's good as you acknowledge that it's the doctrine of an organization and not BIBLICAL DOCTRINE. So, who is imposing "Jesus is God" on you?
And that's how millions believe that Jesus is God Almighty based on their own understanding of the scripture.
You can't even teach anything base on your own UNDERSTANDING, you only believe what your gods in Warwick made you to believe. Stop that lie.

Did Jesus lied when he said John the baptist was Elijah?

It's time you people know the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.

Preaching is telling someone what God promised in the Bible word for word so you only show your audience where it's WRITTEN in God's word.

Teaching is adding meaning to what is written which the audience can't find in the scriptures word for word but to be explained so that the scriptures could make sense with it's fulfilment.

There is nowhere in the scriptures where the name of the one crying in the wilderness is called "John" rather what the scriptures say is that Elijah will come to prepare the way so only followers of Jesus ACCEPTED that as TEACHING from Christ Jesus while all other Jews called it "LIES"

So if i say "Jesus is Archangel Michael" it's the teaching of an organization that i agree with i won't impose it on anyone who never see me as a teacher of God's word just as Jesus' teachings only appeals to his disciples who accepted him as their TEACHER!

MaxInDHouse:
Did Jesus lied when he said John the baptist was Elijah?

Jesus never said John the Baptist WAS ELIJAH.

It's time you people know the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING.

If you're just knowing the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING now it's your problem.

Preaching is telling someone what God promised in the Bible word for word so you only show your audience where it's WRITTEN in God's word.

This never addressed my post but as usual you have to start dancing around like headless chicken.

Teaching is adding meaning to what is written which the audience can't find in the scriptures word for word but to be explained so that the scriptures could make sense with it's fulfilment.

So, is Jesus Micheal a teaching or preaching?
Is Jesus God a preaching or teaching?

There is nowhere in the scriptures where the name of the one crying in the wilderness is called "John" rather what the scriptures say is that Elijah will come to prepare the way so only followers of Jesus ACCEPTED that as TEACHING from Christ Jesus while all other Jews called it "LIES"

The messenger will come IN THE SPIRIT OF ELIJAH that's what the scripture says. Stop lying against God and His word.

So if i say "Jesus is Archangel Michael" it's the teaching of an organization that i agree

So the TEACHING doesn't have BIBLICAL SUPPORT RIGHT?

with i won't impose it on anyone who never see me as a teacher of God's word just as Jesus' teachings only appeals to his disciples who accepted him as their TEACHER!

So who is imposing Jesus is God on you?

That's the question.

Emusan:
Jesus never said John the Baptist WAS ELIJAH.

"and if you are willing to accept it, he is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come. Matthew 11:14

Please what is Jesus trying to say here?

MaxInDHouse:
"and if you are willing to accept it, he is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come. Matthew 11:14

Please what is Jesus trying to say here?

He has started cutting post

Well the screenshot below is enough for you.

You can argue with your own organization.

Emusan:
He has started cutting post :DWell the screenshot below is enough for you.You can argue with your own organization.

This is what you typed nah.
So can you be consistent with your own statement?

Emusan:
Jesus never said John the Baptist WAS ELIJAH.

MaxInDHouse:
This is what you typed nah.
So can you be consistent with your own statement?

You read that clearly

And from the verse you quote it says "he is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come"

Does your organization consistent too?

Can you then answer my questions.

Is Jesus Micheal a teaching or preaching?
Is Jesus God a preaching or teaching?

Emusan:
You read that clearly
And from the verse you quote it says "he is ‘E·liʹjah who is to come"
Does your organization consistent too?
Can you then answer my questions.
Is Jesus Micheal a teaching or preaching?
Is Jesus God a preaching or teaching?

You've not answered the question:

Did Jesus lied when he said John is Elijah?

YES or NO?

MaxInDHouse:
What did the Bible teach?

You are the teacher. Have you forgotten?