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Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Gbadebo19(m): 5:42pm On May 11, 2025
usmanpogo:
Exactly bro
Na why criminal fit win case with better lawyer
Una don scatter everything lol
Yes, you are right. It's in the best interest of the law for 10 criminals to go scot free than for a single innocent person to be punished. Most criminals ( I mean serious crimes only) are usually recidivists, they will still commit another one.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 5:43pm On May 11, 2025
usmanpogo:
This makes no sense, I hope you know a Christian and a Muslim was among the 27 people killed
Dude they the Christian and the Muslim might have been killed in the cross fire, the terrorist group that carried out the attack is an Islamic oraginszation, and they targeted Hindus.

Those who survived the attack can attest to it, the attack was carried out specifically to target India Hindus..

The problems between the two nations runs deep and religion is one of it, religion was the major basis the British had to split the two in the first place.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by shoodboi2: 5:43pm On May 11, 2025
23jerryking:
epistles devoid of anything sensible sha. Why did he support the claim that Indians were offered toys by the West when according to him, even Russian jets were among the ones shot down? Almost as though he doesn't read what he writes. Anyways I've left him behind.
You are only being evasive. You couldn’t provide a reasonable argument or counter-argument and kept going round in circles and changing my words to suit your narrative. Now, you’re even trying to hinge your argument on Russian jets getting shot down, even though you didn’t even know that until I told you so.

Also, I never said anything about India being offered toys by the west as you are claiming here. Stop putting words in my mouth to suit your narrative.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 5:50pm On May 11, 2025
shoodboi2:
You all should stop trying to give this a religious twist. On one hand, you say “it is not about religion per se” and then go on to try to make it appear to be about religion. 80% of Indians are Hindi, so it makes sense that the majority of the victims were Hindis.

But they were not targeted because they were Hindis. They were targeted because they are Indians. A Christian was also killed, and so was a Muslim tour operator who died protecting the victims.

Trying to force a religious narrative is like someone killing a Hausa or Fulani man over issues he has with Hausa and Fulani leaders and then you twist it to claim it is about Muslims and Islam. The average Hausa and Fulani man is a Muslim. But does that mean they were attacked because they are Muslims? No.

Let us focus on the truth here rather than trying to turn this into another religious war. We can talk about the India and Pakistani crisis and wars without making a single mention of Hindi or Islam.
It's like saying the Israeli and Arab debacle is not also being fuelled by religion..

All i am saying is that you simply can't mitigate or completely rule out the role religion is playing in the conflict, Religion was the Major reason they had to split the two nations in the first place.

Am not saying its a religious war, but religion is playing a role in the conflict..

It's on record the group which carried the attacks wanted to kill Hindus, no matter how you try to spin it, they specifically asked for people religious affiliation before gunning them down.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 6:14pm On May 11, 2025
shoodboi2:
You are only being evasive. You couldn’t provide a reasonable argument or counter-argument and kept going round in circles and changing my words to suit your narrative. Now, you’re even trying to hinge your argument on Russian jets getting shot down, even though you didn’t even know that until I told you so.

Also, I never said anything about India being offered toys by the west as you are claiming here. Stop putting words in my mouth to suit your narrative.
I ask again, do you usually read what you type before posting? Kai!! What sort of man is this one?
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by 23jerryking(m): 6:17pm On May 11, 2025
shoodboi2:
Big scam. India should have just stuck to Russian jets. Pakistan used to buy western jets before pivoting to Chinese jets. But for some reason, India went from buying Russian jets to buying western jets.

Even after buying those French Rafales, they considered buying F16s and F21s from the US and are in talks to purchase the F35. The F21 itself is a specifically modified version of the F16 made specifically for India.

But as usual, India will only end up shooting itself in the foot with such jets because of the many rules and conditions the US will impose against them. Western jets are usually all hype and noise, and they will still slam usage rules against you.

Pakistan itself cannot use its own F16’s against India because of US rules against such. The US also withheld spare parts from Pakistan some years ago over political issues. The case will be no different with India.
And yet he can't remember what he quoted here 🤣🤣. Successfully proved that even the young do suffer dementia. We saw it with you first.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 6:21pm On May 11, 2025
Trump called on Zelensky to agree to talks with Russia in Istanbul "immediately".
"Russian President Putin does not want a ceasefire with Ukraine, but rather wants to meet in Turkey on Thursday.“

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 6:31pm On May 11, 2025
seunny4lif:
Trump called on Zelensky to agree to talks with Russia in Istanbul "immediately".
"Russian President Putin does not want a ceasefire with Ukraine, but rather wants to meet in Turkey on Thursday.“
Good the power of putin his wisdom prevailed

UK USA evil nato will not tell putin what to do rather he will command them on what to do

grin
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by seunny4lif(m): 6:34pm On May 11, 2025
Kingsnairaland:
Good the power of putin his wisdom prevailed

UK USA evil nato will not tell putin what to do rather he will command them on what to do

grin

Zelensky has responded to Pred. Putin.
Interesting, let’s see what Putin says.

Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 6:41pm On May 11, 2025
seunny4lif:

Zelensky has responded to Pred. Putin.
Interesting, let’s see what Putin says.
they went all the way from Russia will be defeated to begging for cease fire
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 7:11pm On May 11, 2025
usmanpogo:
I'm not sure anyone thinks it's religious
You lawyers are really good at twisting facts 😁
Bonne journee 😊
I do and I have reasons why I believe this conflict is religious or have a religious undertone.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 8:19pm On May 11, 2025
Watcharena:
they went all the way from Russia will be defeated to begging for cease fire
China asked the US to cancel its tariffs while negotiations are underway. The US refused.
The West is asking Russia to accept a ceasefire during negotiations. What should Russia do?

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Watcharena: 8:34pm On May 11, 2025
LordAdam16:
China asked the US to cancel its tariffs while negotiations are underway. The US refused.
The West is asking Russia to accept a ceasefire during negotiations. What should Russia do?

-Lord
there is no any news that china asked US to cancel tariffs. China had already moved on.

West is asking Russia for a window period to rearm Ukraine
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by LordAdam16: 8:53pm On May 11, 2025
Watcharena:
there is no any news that china asked US to cancel tariffs. China had already moved on.

West is asking Russia for a window period to rearm Ukraine
https://www.npr.org/2025/05/02/nx-s1-5384770/china-us-trade-talks-tariffs-trump

-Lord
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:46pm On May 11, 2025
John Ruwitch
Said that China said so

Lol

China can never say that If they did it shows the tariff hit them no wise nation can say that to weaken their stand that

Fake news from
John Ruwitch
Said

The article did not mention the official in China that said it t

Lol
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Kingsnairaland(m):
That propaganda from UK USA evil nato to feed to the world
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir:
seunny4lif:
Trump called on Zelensky to agree to talks with Russia in Istanbul "immediately".
"Russian President Putin does not want a ceasefire with Ukraine, but rather wants to meet in Turkey on Thursday.“
Why is the celebration of world war 2 Victory paining trump? Just once that he is not the one in the news he is pained. Let Putin use one week to celebrate the victory it's worth it.
I like how Putin is giving Trump headache everywhere. Trump would love to be the one to claim victory for bringing peace to Ukraine after selling weapons to Ukraine to fight Russia. but Putin denied him. Let him bring peace to Palestine first
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Alamkiir: 6:58am On May 12, 2025
Lawag3:
I do and I have reasons why I believe this conflict is religious or have a religious undertone.
That's because you always think everything has religious undertones
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by MERCHANDISER: 7:24am On May 12, 2025
Gbadebo19:
Let anybody say whatever they like. Based on the Russia Vs Ukraine war, one can safely conclude that Western weapons are far better than Russians. A lot depends on the expertise of the pilot. Look at it this way, ever since Ukraine has been fielding F16s for almost a year now, the so called best air defence system in the world (S400) has shot down only a single one. Just a single one. Another crashed. On the other hand, Russian planes do not even dare enter Ukrainian air space. They stay hundreds of miles off to fire their weapons. Despite that, the ones who are fortunate enough to get anywhere close have been downed. Nothing less than 6 Su-35 have been lost.
Because the war was between Russia vs the west(Europe and America)

Do you think if China got involved,supporting Russia,do you think the west will survive?

Only cheap chinese drones used by Pakistans destroyed 10 Indian fighter jets
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 7:36am On May 12, 2025
MERCHANDISER:
Because the war was between Russia vs the west(Europe and America)

Do you think if China got involved,supporting Russia,do you think the west will survive?

Only cheap chinese drones used by Pakistans destroyed 10 Indian fighter jets
@the bolded....This got to be the most funniest thing I have seen on this thread.. What kind of fuckery is this??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by MERCHANDISER: 7:37am On May 12, 2025
dvkot:
Do you guys see politics?
Despite everything Erdogan has done, Putin still respects him unlike some baby Europeans leaders that puts personal beef above political interests.
The Turkish president at some point provided Ukraine with weapons.
Putin should have opt to meet Ukrainian officials in China,Singapore or even India (because they've been neutral)
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by MERCHANDISER: 7:40am On May 12, 2025
obedience4:
@the bolded....This got to be the most funniest thing I have seen on this thread.. What kind of fuckery is this??
But that's just the fact grin
This is the YouTube evidence for your perusal😎


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mderaGEsauc?si=tmmY1mrfT0ZZC-Nz
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 7:48am On May 12, 2025
India and China are good enough to disintegrate BRICS from within and perform the harakiri without USA/NATO lifting a finger.

I'm sure Russia would be confused AF right now. Should they support China/Pak their partner or should they support India their partner.

To make it worse, Pak and India are nuclear powered.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 7:53am On May 12, 2025
obedience4:
@the bolded....This got to be the most funniest thing I have seen on this thread.. What kind of fuckery is this??
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

It's the funniest fuckery I've seen this year.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by MERCHANDISER: 8:00am On May 12, 2025
lanre316:
India and China are good enough to disintegrate BRICS from within and perform the harakiri without USA/NATO lifting a finger.

I'm sure Russia would be confused AF right now. Should they support China/Pak their partner or should they support India their partner.

To make it worse, Pak and India are nuclear powered.
I bet you,if there is a conflict between India and China.
Russia will remain neutral,geographically they can't supply India with weapons. Pakistan and China will invade India through kashmir and himalaya/Tibet border
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by lanre316: 8:03am On May 12, 2025
MERCHANDISER:
I bet you,if there is a conflict between India and China.
Russia will remain neutral,geographically they can't supply India with weapons. Pakistan and China will invade India through kashmir and himalaya/Tibet border
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

So much ignorance that I don't even know where to start unpacking it
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by obedience4(m): 8:14am On May 12, 2025
MERCHANDISER:
But that's just the fact grin
This is the YouTube evidence for your perusal😎


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mderaGEsauc?si=tmmY1mrfT0ZZC-Nz
Facts or fiction??
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by dvkot(m): 8:54am On May 12, 2025
MERCHANDISER:
The Turkish president at some point provided Ukraine with weapons.
Putin should have opt to meet Ukrainian officials in China,Singapore or even India (because they've been neutral)
There's a reason why Erdogan said, He and Putin are the only real politician left
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 8:59am On May 12, 2025
Alamkiir:
That's because you always think everything has religious undertones
No I don't Russian Ukraine war has zero religious undertone.


Let's not forget that's it's India and Pakistan we are talking about here a country that was devided due to religions differences between the Muslim majority Pakistan and Hindu majority India

Let's go even more far back to the Muslim conquest of the Indus valley and plains heavy heavy killings of Hindus and destroying Hindu temples .


Back to modern times people who used to share similar cultures and where mostly at peace with one another became enemies because of Islam.


Now to the attack I heard don't know how true it is mostly Hindus were killed and they verified by maybe checking IDs to make sure that the person was Hindu.


The terrorist group ideology very Islamic I could give you their names but you already know them.



This happens every once in a while terrorist from Pakistan kills mostly Hindu civilians and the Pakistani government doest apologise or make a pledged to help find this Islamic prisoners. Instead like we all ducking saw they escalate. And yeah Pakistan has a bleed India by a thousand cut policy.


Have you ever been to India there's a bit of tension between Muslims and Hindus.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Lawag3: 9:03am On May 12, 2025
Obedience40:
Dude they the Christian and the Muslim might have been killed in the cross fire, the terrorist group that carried out the attack is an Islamic oraginszation, and they targeted Hindus.

Those who survived the attack can attest to it, the attack was carried out specifically to target India Hindus..

The problems between the two nations runs deep and religion is one of it, religion was the major basis the British had to split the two in the first place.
Yeah totally with you.


Do they pretend not to see clear facts or they truely are ignorant.
Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by basilico: 9:07am On May 12, 2025
shoodboi2:
You all should stop trying to give this a religious twist. On one hand, you say “it is not about religion per se” and then go on to try to make it appear to be about religion. 80% of Indians are Hindi, so it makes sense that the majority of the victims were Hindis.

But they were not targeted because they were Hindis. They were targeted because they are Indians. A Christian was also killed, and so was a Muslim tour operator who died protecting the victims.

Trying to force a religious narrative is like someone killing a Hausa or Fulani man over issues he has with Hausa and Fulani leaders and then you twist it to claim it is about Muslims and Islam. The average Hausa and Fulani man is a Muslim. But does that mean they were attacked because they are Muslims? No.

Let us focus on the truth here rather than trying to turn this into another religious war. We can talk about the India and Pakistani crisis and wars without making a single mention of Hindi or Islam.
Liar .The gunmen asked victims to recite the daily Muslim creed kalma in Arabic Those who could not were shot dead
Try another
Bhaiya and bhabhi were eating Maggi, when two people in military fatigues came to them, and asked are you Muslim? If yes, then recite the Kalma," a relative of Shubham Dwivedi, one of the victims of the Pahalgam terror attack, told India Today TV. In the April 22 attack in Kashmir's Pahalgam, some tourists were asked to recite the Kalma to prove their Muslim identify. Knowing and reciting the Kalma became a matter of life and death.
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