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WritterNg:
⚡IBRAHIM TRAORÉ:

"Russia helped save the world.

Africa helped save the world.

That must be said.

And young people must understand it.

Everything they show in Hollywood films—it’s false.

Just lies.

It’s the same with the Vietnam War.

The version they tell today is completely distorted.

But we must speak up.

You see—they don’t like it when I speak.

They say I talk too much.

They hope I’ll stay quiet so they can dominate the narrative.

But no.

My greatest regret is having spent much of my youth listening to stations like RFI and France 24.

Even in countries where those stations were banned, we found ways—usings apps, recording broadcasts—just to hear their news.

But at some point, something clicked.

I began to understand.

They weren’t informing us.

They were programming us.

Conditioning our minds to accept their view of the world.

Feeding us their narrative until we forgot our own.

Since then, I’ve learned to discern.

And now, more than ever, I see just how dangerous their tactics are.

They’ve especially conditioned the minds of young Africans.

So yes—you can help.

You can awaken consciousness.

You can help young people understand how the world really works,

So they won’t be manipulated ever again."

IMEI:
The name of the group that claimed responsibility for the attack is called THE RESISTANCE FRONT, they're different from Lashkar-e-taiba. It is the Indian Government which claims they're an offshoot

The Resistance Front doesn't have religious motivations, it was formed following the Indian Government's suspension of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution, which revoked Kashmir's semi autonomous status

A summary of the group and its motivations for the attack:

The Resistance Front ( TRF):

"The TRF emerged in 2019 following the Indian government’s suspension of Article 370 of the Indian Constitution, stripping Indian-administered Kashmir of its semi-autonomous status.

However, the group was not widely known before the Pahalgam attack, which it took responsibility for in April via the Telegram messaging app, on which it said it was opposed to the granting of residency permits to “outsiders”.

Since the repeal of Article 370, non-Kashmiris have been granted residency permits to settle in Indian-administered Kashmir. This has stoked fears that the Indian government is trying to change the demographics of Kashmir, whose population is nearly all Muslims

Unlike other armed rebel groups in Kashmir, the TRF does not have an Islamic name.

However, the Indian government maintains that it is an offshoot of, or a front for, Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT), a Pakistan-based armed group whose name means “Army of the Pure”.

In 2020, TRF started claiming responsibility for minor attacks, including some targeted killings. TRF recruits included rebels from different splinter rebel groups. Indian security agents say they have arrested multiple TRF members since then.

According to Indian government records, most armed fighters killed in gunfights in Kashmir were affiliated with the TRF in 2022."

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/9/who-are-the-armed-groups-india-accuses-pakistan-of-backing

obedience4:
The TRT came out of the Lashkar-e-Taiba.
Don't try to spin it man.

And news flash they weren't the ones responsible for the attacks, but the Lashkar-e-Taiba.
Stop trying to distort truths..

The The Resistance Front ( TRF): initially claimed to be responsible but later retracted when evidence started coming out, The Lashkar-e-Taiba were responsible for the 2025 Pahalgam attack.

Funny boy your links shows the number of groups linked and supported by Pakistan, but you decided to bring out only The Resistance Front ( TRF): because they are the only moderate group to as to try and paint a lie..

One question is the Lashkar-e-Taiba, the Jaish-e-Muhammad,and the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen are they not one of the groups listed by Al Jazeera?? How come you decided to bring out The Resistance Front ( TRF):🤣🤣😂

When you are done lying to yourself, let us know chapiche??

shoodboi2:
I took my time to explain. 80% of Indians are Hindus. So, almost every Indian you come across will be Hindu. And if you kill an Indian today, he is most likely going to be a Hindu.

It is the same way with Igbos. Almost all Igbos are Christians. So, if you kill an Igbo man today, he will most likely be a Christian. The same also applies to Fulanis. Almost every Fulani man you come across is a Muslim. So, if you kill a Fulani man, he is most likely going to be a Muslim.

So, if a Fulani man then gets attacked by someone who has grievances with the Fulanis, do you say he was attacked for being Fulani or for being Muslim? The logic here is simple unless you insist on taking a religious angle with it for some reasons that are only clear to you.

WritterNg:
⚡IBRAHIM TRAORÉ:

"Russia helped save the world.

Africa helped save the world.

That must be said.

And young people must understand it.

Everything they show in Hollywood films—it’s false.

Just lies.

It’s the same with the Vietnam War.

The version they tell today is completely distorted.

But we must speak up.

You see—they don’t like it when I speak.

They say I talk too much.

They hope I’ll stay quiet so they can dominate the narrative.

But no.

My greatest regret is having spent much of my youth listening to stations like RFI and France 24.

Even in countries where those stations were banned, we found ways—usings apps, recording broadcasts—just to hear their news.

But at some point, something clicked.

I began to understand.

They weren’t informing us.

They were programming us.

Conditioning our minds to accept their view of the world.

Feeding us their narrative until we forgot our own.

Since then, I’ve learned to discern.

And now, more than ever, I see just how dangerous their tactics are.

They’ve especially conditioned the minds of young Africans.

So yes—you can help.

You can awaken consciousness.

You can help young people understand how the world really works,

So they won’t be manipulated ever again."

Lawag3:
Let's give a good timeline of all the Pakistani government funded terrorist attack on Indians and you'd be suprised that every time they target Hindus mostly.


And you even proved my point they attacked a place they knew will be filled with Hindus even though Kashmir and jammu is a Muslim dominated area.

And so you know the tourist site they were attacked in is in pahalgam which has a Muslim population of over 85% goes to prove this was a targeted attack.


If not the Muslim casualty is supposed to be significantly higher.


I rest my case on this I can't be clearer than this.

obedience4:
You are trying too hard to distort the truth..

The group responsible for this attacks and many more in India and India administering Kashmir is the Islamic terrorist group, the Lashkar-e-Taiba they have a clear Islamic agenda and doctrine..

he organisation's primary stated objective is to merge the whole of Kashmir with Pakistan.

Let's dice into some of Lashkar-e-Taiba objectives and goals

In its publications and on various platforms, the organization has consistently articulated its primary political goals, which include the destruction of India, Hinduism, and Judaism. The organization considers jihad a religious duty for all Muslims, with the establishment of a caliphate as its central religious and political objective.

Its followers are proponents of the South Asian group Ahl-e-Hadith (AeH) Islam, which is considered Salafist. It has adopted maximalist agenda of global jihad including attacks on civilians. The group justifies its ideology on verse 2:216 of the Quran.

Fighting has been made obligatory upon you ˹believers˺, though you dislike it. Perhaps you dislike something which is good for you and like something which is bad for you. Allah knows and you do not know.

Extrapolating from this verse, the group asserts that military jihad is a religious obligation of all Muslims and defines the many circumstances under which it must be carried out. In a pamphlet entitled "Why Are We Waging Jihad?", the group states that all of India along with many other countries were once ruled by Muslims and were Muslim lands, which is their duty to take it back from the non-Muslims. It declared United States, India, and Israel as "existential enemies of Islam".LeT believes that jihad is the duty of all Muslims and must be waged until eight objectives are met: Establishing Islam as the dominant way of life in the world, forcing disbelievers to pay jizya, exacting revenge for killed Muslims, punishing enemies for violating oaths and treaties, defending all Muslim states, and recapturing occupied Muslim territory. The group construes lands once ruled by Muslims as Muslim lands and considers it as their duty to get them back. It embraces a pan-Islamist rationale for military action

Just like Hamas and Hazebolla, this group seek the destruction of the Hindu state, so no matter how we try to spin it there's an element of religion in what going on between Pakistan and India..like I said the other time religion was what divided the two countries into two..

Bigsam99:
Please submit your proof that those terrorists were funded by the government of Pakistan. Remember, USA is Pakistan's biggest ally. In the first war with India, USA supported Pakistan because India aided North Vietnam.

Lawag3:
Yes you did and if this attack was carried out lets say in Mumbai or Chennai then your view is valid it happened in indian Kashmir where the Muslim population is over 60% not just that it happened in pahalgam which has a Muslim population of over 85%.

Let me reverse it let say a terrorist attack in let's say Agra and majority of the deaths are Muslims in a Hindu dominated area.


Or God forbid a terrorist attack in a place like Lagos where Yorubas are the majority and you see a majority igbo Death if that's not a coincidence then its a targeted attack.

Pakistanis have always hated Indians and if you knew history you'd know that it's because of religion.


Historical evidence shows that Islam may spare Jews and christians being children of the book but Hindus na they killed in their millions.

Bigsam99:
You have continued the same fallacy of giving everything a religious colouration. If a Christian sees danger, he will naturally say Blood of Jesus! Does anybody label him a Christain fundamentalist? But if a Moslem shouts Allahu Akbar! He is automatically labelled an Islamic fundamentalist. Even though the people in that terrorist group are Moslems and they will naturally justify their actions with the Quran just like some wicked Christians will justify their actions with the Bible, their overtly stated agenda is not religious.

You stated it yourself:


'The organisation's primary stated objective is to merge the whole of Kashmir with Pakistan.'

Does the above look like a religious agenda?

I know there are truly fundamentalist groups out there who want to impose Sharia but we must separate groups with Islamic agenda from groups with political agenda. It is a dangerous mischief to not do so.

The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) that butchered thousands in central Africa all in the name of Christ was never called a Christian terrorist group why should any group be labelled a Muslim terror group when their agenda is purely political?

The western media started this nonsense and they have been successful in making us hate all Muslims and Arabs. This is called Framing and those who do it do it for the political agenda of divide and conquer. Today if you speak against oppression and somebody find out you are a Moslem, they can easily blackmail you and label you a terrorist sympathiser.

IMEI:
First of all, you expressly claim that Lashkar-e-taiba is responsible for the attack, but they neither claimed responsibility, nor did you present any evidence of their involvement

Maybe you can't read properly, but the article I shared is about groups India accuses Pakistan of supporting. It's not about groups Pakistan definitively supports and I only presented what was written on TRF because that was what was relevant to my point

You're right that TRF retracted the claim of responsibility, but funny enough India actually blames them for the attack despite their retraction

TRF is made up of splinters of different groups, including Lashkar-e-taiba, it's mentioned in the article I shared. It's a group drawn from members of different groups rather than just one like you're trying to claim

Lawag3:
I have no proof per say but I sure can bet that the US that added Pakistan to the state Sponsors of Terrorism list does.
The United States' State Sponsors of Terrorism designation list describes Pakistan as a terrorist safe haven where individual terrorists and terrorist groups are able to organize, plan, raise funds, communicate, recruit, train, transit, and operate in relative security because of inadequate/supportive governance, political will, or both

obedience4:
The group the The Resistance Front ( TRF): came out of two different groups, it is clearly shown in the picture evidence I tender, the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen and the Lashkar-e-Taiba, note the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen also has the same ideology as the Lashkar-e-Taiba. Both are Islamic terrorist groups.

I only circled the latter because you were trying to portray the TRF as a entirely different group from the Lashkar-e-Taiba.

The Lashkar-e-Taiba, did not take responsibility for the attack, the authorities in India label them as the preperators of the act. The India response was against Lashkar-e-Taiba targets in Pakistan.

Bigsam99:
Someone has already explained that the group that claimed responsibility is the TRF. Even though they are an offshoot of several Islamic affiliated terror groups. Why do you expect the terror groups in Kashmir to not be Islamic when it's a majority Muslim area?

Again, why don't we call Christian groups committing crimes from Christian areas Christian Terrorists?

I already explained to you that there is a difference between a religious agenda and a political agenda. If you refuse to get that, good luck in your hypocrisy.

obedience4:
Please for the utmost time, the The Resistance Front ( TRF): were not the ones responsible for the 2025 Pahalgam attacks.

I have attached evidence of the group The Resistance Front ( TRF): denying they were responsible for the attacks.

The India government has stated that the Lashkar-e-Taiba, are the ones responsible for the attacks, and they haven't come out to deny the allegations..


Just chill man

obedience4:
Please for the utmost time, the The Resistance Front ( TRF): were not the ones responsible for the 2025 Pahalgam attacks.

I have attached evidence of the group The Resistance Front ( TRF): denying they were responsible for the attacks.

The India government has stated that the Lashkar-e-Taiba, are the ones responsible for the attacks, and they haven't come out to deny the allegations..


Just chill man

Bigsam99:
I can't see anything in what you attached that indicates that the TRF denied responsibility.
Below is what the New York Times wrote:

A little-known group called the Resistance Front claimed responsibility. The Indian government said that the group was a front for a broader terrorist apparatus that has operated out of Pakistan. Pakistan has rejected those claims.

It is India that is claiming that it is Lashkar-e-Taiba and another group, a claim Pakistan denies.

basilico:
That was a jihad attack. Anything else is spin.
Jihad is obligated for the believers.Its the only sure way for believers to go to Jannat.
A post here has photos of Pakistan top military guys attending funerals .

Bigsam99:
Well, it is in the interest of the US to keep Pakistan weak that way so they can stage secret ops from that country. They knew how unstable Pakistan is and continues to prop up its tyrannical govts. During the soviet invasion of Afghanistan, they used Pakistan to channel weapons to Islamic fighters, including Bin Laden who would later be called a terrorist. He was not a terrorist when he was killing their enemies.

obedience4:
😂🤣😁

Dude the Indian government said is the Lashkar-e-Taiba that carried out the attacks, the TRF that you are forcing responsibility upon has come out to deny responsibility..

WTF man!!

shoodboi2:
Lol. You all should have your fun. I have taken my time to explain in detail about three times.

Multiple people here have clarified that it has no religious undertone. Even the Indian who has deep knowledge of the Indian military and doesn't like Pakistan, confirmed it has no religious undertone.

If you want to continue to spin a religious undertone to it, just so you can expand your anti-Muslim campaign, then that's your problem.

Bigsam99:
So, if the TRF later denies responsibility, how does that make it a religious attack? Also, right now there is still no proof except that India believes it is Lashkar-e-Taiba. Even the TRF accuses Indian intelligence of manipulating the narrative.

1. The Pakistani govt continues to deny links with the terrorists even if they were from Pakistan. Most of the terrorists accused of bombing on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia, did US bomb Saudi for it?

2. Even the Lashkar-e-Taiba and affiliates, whilst predominantly Islam in the composition of its fighters, has a political agenda of an autonomous Kashmir and not exactly a religious agenda of imposing Sharia on Kashmir. This is where they may be different from ISIS or Boko haram who are seeking to impose an Islamic caliphate. They are a Sunni Muslim militant insurgent group based in Pakistan, whose primary aim is the liberation of Jammu and Kashmir from Indian control. They may justify what they do with Islam, but their main objective is political.

Again, the fact that western media allied with western intelligence continues to plant these narratives in your minds and you gobble it up like pepper soup. It is called framing. When you frame something up as a religious crisis, it is easy to whip up sentiments and make people act with emotions. Stop seeing what is not there.

dermmy:
How China's Warplane Can Take on Western Technology

Islamabad used the Chinese-made Chengdu J-10C fighter planes in the air-to-air combat operation, which Pakistani officials said involved more than 100 aircraft in total. Neither side crossed the border during the 'stand-off' conflict, but reports suggested Indian jets were downed inside India and in Indian-administered Kashmir. A French intelligence source confirmed to CNN last Wednesday that at least one Rafale jet had been shot down - making it the first of the advanced 4.5 generation aircraft to be lost in combat.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/how-china-s-warplane-can-take-on-western-technology/ss-AA1ECQOw?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=89647a8aabf14b83c2ca95a2c7c3a333&ei=12#image=4

Lawag3:
I don't believe the US keeps Pakistan weak. Neither do I think it props up Pakistan's government.

That being the US do have a history of aiding a would be problem to be a problem to them in the future. That I fear may be a fatal flaw.

obedience4:
I don't have time for a profit less back and forth.

In its publications and on various platforms, the organization has consistently articulated its primary political goals, which include the destruction of India, Hinduism, and Judaism. The organization considers jihad a religious duty for all Muslims, with the establishment of a caliphate as its central religious and political objective.

Its followers are proponents of the South Asian group Ahl-e-Hadith (AeH) Islam, which is considered Salafist. It has adopted maximalist agenda of global jihad including attacks on civilians. The group justifies its ideology on verse 2:216 of the Quran.

Fighting has been made obligatory upon you ˹believers˺, though you dislike it. Perhaps you dislike something which is good for you and like something which is bad for you. Allah knows and you do not know.

Extrapolating from this verse, the group asserts that military jihad is a religious obligation of all Muslims and defines the many circumstances under which it must be carried out. In a pamphlet entitled "Why Are We Waging Jihad?", the group states that all of India along with many other countries were once ruled by Muslims and were Muslim lands, which is their duty to take it back from the non-Muslims. It declared United States, India, and Israel as "existential enemies of Islam".LeT believes that jihad is the duty of all Muslims and must be waged until eight objectives are met: Establishing Islam as the dominant way of life in the world, forcing disbelievers to pay jizya, exacting revenge for killed Muslims, punishing enemies for violating oaths and treaties, defending all Muslim states, and recapturing occupied Muslim territory. The group construes lands once ruled by Muslims as Muslim lands and considers it as their duty to get them back. It embraces a pan-Islamist rationale for military action

I wrote before about the primary objectives, goals and ideologies of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, if the above are not indices of an Islamic extremist group to you, then its your cup of tea..

Cheers mate!!

Bigsam99:
Ypu continue to counter your own assertions in your writings. All your references to Islamic ideology only indicates justification and not objective. You wrote it yourself:

The group justifies its ideology on verse 2:216 of the Quran

Now, the LRA of Joseph Kony justifies its objectives with the Bible. Has it ever been referred to as a 'Christian Terrorist group by western jounalists' ?

Below is how my Chat GPT describes the LRA:

"The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), led by Joseph Kony, is a Christian extremist organization. Its ideology centers on a distorted interpretation of Christianity, including the Ten Commandments, aiming to establish a theocratic state in Uganda. This has led to the LRA's brutal practices. Kony presented himself as a spiritual leader, claiming divine authority for his actions. The LRA's ideology is not representative of mainstream Christian beliefs."

Now, why don't journalists say emphasize Islamist groups are basing their ideology on a distorted interpretation of Islam because I know several Muslims who don't subscribe to their ideology. Salafism is not mainstream Islam.

Obedience40:
In its publications and on various platforms, the organization has consistently articulated its primary political goals, which include the destruction of India, Hinduism, and Judaism. The organization considers jihad a religious duty for all Muslims, with the establishment of a caliphate as its central religious and political objective

Are the above 👆 statements, are they not objectives??, the groups objectives include the destruction of India. Hinduism, and the establishment of a caliphate in Kashmir, are these not objectives?? All these are justified using the Islamic religion.

Hence, the Lashkar-e-Taiba are tagged as an Islamic terrorist group..

Lord's Resistance Army was designated a terrorist group by the US and some other countries.
looking at the ideology and objectives of the group, you won't find any Christianity extremism in it, They are not fighting in the name of the Lord, nor are they fighting or seeking to establish a Christian caliphate, nor forcing the Christian doctrines nor "Christianity" on anyone, the Ten Commandments they are using as a benchmark has a Commandment of "thou sha not kill" among it. There's nothing in the groups manifesto or ideology that uses "Christianity" as a focal point to commit atrocities.

The Lord's Resistance Army is a terrorist group, she was designated a terrorist group based on the atrocities she committed, including murder, abduction, mutilation, child sex slavery, there's no Christian or bible reference being used by the Lord's Resistance Army to commit these atrocities.. hence they can't be called a Christian terrorist group.

The Lashkar-e-Taiba, on the other hand, like other Islamic terrorist groups, uses the quran as a reference point to justify its atrocities. The objectives always mirror the establishment of an Islamic caliphate and the destruction of other religions. Hence, they are tagged Islamic terrorist groups. jihad, which these terrorist use as an excuse to attack people, is enshrined in the quran.

The MSN in the eastern part of Nigeria they can be tagged as a terrorist group. They are manny Christians in the east, The M23 rebels were tagged terrorist group, by the DRC government. They are majority Christians.. but you can't tag them or the MSN "Christian terrorist group", because their are no Christian extremism in their manifesto or objectives.

Bigsam99:
Please I am tired of all these back and forth because you seem not to get my major arguments. Some of your assertions are just wrong deductions from factual sources. You said:
LRA are not fighting in the name of the Lord, nor are they fighting or seeking to establish a Christian caliphate but that is not true. The LRA itself clearly states it operates according to the 10 commandment.

Again I told you salafism is not mainstream Islam and just an offshoot but you and western media will choose to label every Salafist group as 'Islamic Group'

Another example is the various Jewish groups in occupied Palestine killing unarmed Paleatinians and taking over their property. Nowhere has any western journalists tag them "Jewish Terrorists". One of such is the Jewish Defense League (JDL), a radical organization that preaches a violent form of anti-Arab, Jewish nationalism.

Do you now agree that the term Islamic Terrorists in most cases is just a form of framing?

obedience4:
The group the The Resistance Front ( TRF): came out of two different groups, it is clearly shown in the picture evidence I tender, the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen and the Lashkar-e-Taiba, note the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen also has the same ideology as the Lashkar-e-Taiba. Both are Islamic terrorist groups.

I only circled the latter because you were trying to portray the TRF as a entirely different group from the Lashkar-e-Taiba.

The Lashkar-e-Taiba, did not take responsibility for the attack, the authorities in India label them as the preperators of the act. The India response was against Lashkar-e-Taiba targets in Pakistan.